Viduka shows the way to embrace football’s roots
By Davidde Corran, 5 Mar 2010 Davidde Corran is a Roar Expert
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The Australian Socceroos' Mark Viduka kicks the ball in the Australia v Japan opening Group F match at the Soccer World Cup in Kaiserslautern, Germany, Monday, June 12, 2006. This is Australia's first World Cup finals appearance in 32 years. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
Last Friday, the Melbourne Knights announced Mark Viduka would be the team’s number one ticket holder for the new Victorian Premier League season.
In an article on the Knights’ website, the former NSL club also revealed that former Socceroo Danny Tiatto would be joining the club for two games as a guest player.
Interesting news that mostly went unnoticed. In particular, it’s another fascinating chapter in Mark Viduka’s football life.
The thing that disappoints me most about the way many remember Viduka as a player are the doubts over his motivations when it came to the national team.
People have pulled out everything from his relatively low goal tally for the national team, through to his hesitation in making a definitive decision on the Socceroos over the last few years as evidence of his misplaced loyalties. Such doubts couldn’t be further from the truth.
My favourite story about big ‘Dukes’ comes from the lead up to the 2007 Asian Cup.
In mid-June 2007, Graham Arnold made two calls within a few days to Viduka who had just joined English Premier League side Newcastle United. Arnold asked him to come play for the Socceroos in the Asian Cup.
On both occasions Viduka refused saying he “needed the time off”. In the end, and despite publicly admitting how crucial to the Socceroos Viduka was, Arnold conceded defeat and moved on to trying to fill the Australian captain’s ample void.
Less then a week later though Arnold’s phone rang. It was Viduka. The then 31-year old explained to ‘Arnie’ that he hadn’t been able to sleep since his decision to miss the Asian Cup. Viduka had changed his mind and would be wearing the green and gold a few weeks later where he hit the best goal-scoring form of his international career.
The exertions of missing another off-season to play in the heat and humidity of South East Asia took it’s toll on Viduka’s body though, as he limped through the next two seasons with Newcastle.
Its safe to say that Viduka’s passion for the green and gold sabotaged the twilight of his Premier League career.
Mark Viduka’s decision to become the number one ticket holder at the Knights has once again shown his passion and loyalty for both his country and heritage.
In the Socceroos era of ‘Luca$h’, the former Leeds striker stands almost alone as being about something other then just the money.
For me Viduka and Tiatto’s, return to the Melbourne Knights is further proof of the need to reunite Australia’s fractured football community.
When the A-League launched five years ago, Football Federation Australia’s myopic focus on “the next generation” of clubs was the right one at the time. However, the time to re-connect with Australia’s football heritage passed long ago.
So how should FFA embrace the older generation of clubs while still ensuring the game has a bright financial future? So far I can only think of three much talked about options.
A-League division 2
A-League division 2 – three words that seem to illicit as many pleas of “yes please” as they do accusations of “europhilia” (as if it’s a bad thing to want Australian football to mirror some of the best elements of the world’s most popular leagues).
The idea of bringing together the strongest clubs from the state leagues (and possibly some new franchises that missed out on recent A-League licenses) into a national second division is certainly alluring.
However the continuing state of peril that North Queensland Fury find themselves in, (link) is a reminder of how fragile an existence much of Australian football is living in at the moment.
I don’t believe relegation and promotion is anywhere near as foreign of an idea to Australian sport as many believe, but certainly the A-League is still some way off being able to sustain such troubles.
The state leagues have managed to sustain themselves since the A-League launched and surely a united national league would only strengthen the financial position of the biggest clubs in these competitions.
FFA Cup
A national knockout competition open to almost all levels of the game. Many states already have similar competitions so surely a national version, that remains regional until the A-League teams come in, would be a viable alternative.
I certainly believe such a tournament would also be a good way for FFA to test the waters in football’s traditional backyards.
However, while many would like to see such a competition modelled on England’s FA Cup, in truth that’s a competition that has been faltering since the 1990’s (if not earlier). It’s a trend that is generally mirrored right across Europe. Despite recent renovations, Italy’s Coppa Italia still leaves most Italians feeling under whelmed.
On the flip side, while England’s FA Cup has lost it’s lustre since the Wembley final stopped being the only regularly televised game in England, the lack of an A-League free to air deal could be exploited to a cup tournament’s gain.
Keeping the Status Quo
It would be easy to assume that by leaving things as they are FFA wouldn’t be jeopardising the game’s future by trying any financially risky innovations, but I’m not so sure.
The longer Australia’s football past and present remains segregated; the game’s future will never reach its potential. The longer the older generation continues to get the cold shoulder, the harder it will be for FFA to reconnect with them in the future.
The big point that many keep coming back to is a fear of youths with ill-conceived ideas of national pride causing trouble at and around football events. Instead of combating this problem, I feel we’ve run scared.
There are great people at these clubs that have offered so much to the game in the past and they have more to offer in the future.
FFA shouldn’t let a minority hold back the growth of the game. Instead, along with clubs and local government, I’d like to see FFA actively use the game to tackle these problems. A brave approach of engagement, education and no nonsense tolerance.
Personally, while I have a preference for which approach should be taken and have written about it on this site in the past, I am more concerned by the thought of continuing to not do anything to embrace much of football’s roots then by which path to re-engagement we take.
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rovingto2011 said | March 5th 2010 @ 5:45am | Report comment
a second division would be a fine way to take football to new regions. Not convinced that it should include many teams from Sydney or Melbourne though.
The derbies coming for those two cities are something i’m obviously looking forward to. Too many sides from Syd/Melb in the top tier or A2 i think wouldn’t be great for the league. Take it to new places imo.
Cpaaa 2018 said | March 5th 2010 @ 6:29am | Report comment
What a beautiful article indeed Davidde, but you had me at Viduka…again
60,000 hits on youtube for the Mark Viduka song
63,000 for 4 goals against Liverpool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWu0O3HJtmw ( i love retro NSL footage)
O.K The Duke has hung up his boots, but could he possibly be the ambassador that connects the past with the present. I believe they need each other to make it work. The FFA cup would be very different to other FA cups beacuse i think its already molded in a case of us vs them, HAL V NSL. Soul V the Manufactured. Clubs V Franchices. David V the Goliaths. Personally i cant wait, for it is possible to support more than 1 team. In places like Spain you have your team ex.Betis but you also have Barcelona or Madrid to choose, you just cant have both. We try the FFA cup, from there we see how viable is AL2.
Fivehole said | March 5th 2010 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Spot on Cpaaa about trying the FFA cup. Thats the only way to know if there is a possibility of getting the bigger state league sides into an AL-2 without having to jump in boots and all.
rovingto2011 said | March 5th 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
the FFA cup could include pretty much any team down to the grassroots. A great way to connect the amateur level of the game with the professional.
Give the A-L and state/capital city premier leagues a pass to the later rounds, and let all clubs that are keen compete from round 1. A truly national and representative FFA Cup.
dasilva said | March 5th 2010 @ 6:54am | Report comment
My biggest problem with Viduka delay to retire is that Viduka never got the retirement tribute that far lesser players have got in their career. I haven’t read a single retirement tribute until today (if this counts) of Dukes that wasn’t written by me
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In fact, we are basically under the assumption that Viduka has retired. He hasn’t gone to the press conference and announce his retirement. If that happen we would have people writing articles about the tribute to Viduka’s great career, The World Game goes through Viduka’s career in retrospective and have a clip show of his glorious career. People will analyse whether they consider Duke’s socceroos career a success or not and what legacy he left for the game. People talk about the start of the new era. Unfortunately it’s a bit too late for that to happen now considering that Viduka’s last match for the socceroos was in 2007
When the likes of Popovic, Kalac and Skoko got a send off and the dukes never got one just doesn’t seem right. I guess that say something about Dukes character that he doesn’t care about these sorts of thing and prefer to end his career in a very low key manner with minimum of fuss.
David said | March 5th 2010 @ 7:30am | Report comment
I agree with everything you said dukes is a hero and should be remember as one. People are only realised now how good he was. Australia clearly dont have a stiker anywhere as good as him back in the day and im glad he’s gone back to the state leagues.
i agree with the FFA cup and the A-2 league
but for the statues Quo i’d like to add a statment that was made by cragie foster on the world game.
“players in the NSL had to have 3 or 4 good season before they could wear the shirt (Socceroos call-up), now you only need to have 3 or 4 good games. Players in the old NSL could play and even beat some of the best teams in the world.”
(Foster – was saying this before the indonesia clash in regardes to the weak performance of the domestic players of the A-league)
I believe in Terms of the football (quality) being played the NSL was a lot better then the A-league currently is, however the NSL had to much ethnic pride and problems and thus was poorly run. Conversly the A-league is the exact opposite, the A-league is well run by may successful business people and partners however the ability of players is generally low having struggled to beat some of the weakest of nations in football and even losing to Kuwait at home (a team that had no professional footballers in it).
I think we need to learn from the old NSL it wasnt all and it produced some real stars Kewell, Dukes, Zelic etc
Davidde Corran said | March 6th 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
David, I agree completely with you on the NSL. We’ve learned what not to do from the NSL’s example now we need to learn what TO do from them.
I touched on this in my piece originally but edited it out due to how long this was already.
AGO74 said | March 5th 2010 @ 8:16am | Report comment
Let’s not get too carried away with ‘Dukes. It’s a nice touch that he’s returning to his roots but to suggest he was not driven by the $$$ with the reference to Lucas Neill is untrue. His last two club contracts at Middlesbrough and Newcastle were both driven by $$$. However, I do agree with your point that he hasn’t truly been appreciated by a lot of Australian fans. Playing as a lone striker (which he did for all of his Socceroos career) is more about holding the ball up and creating the opportunities for others unlike a six yard box predator.
As for Division 2. Forget it for at least 20 years. The A-League is bleeding money as it is in most of its clubs. Let’s get the A-League well and truly on its feet before we entertain this. The FFA Cup is a good idea in principle but unlikely to occur as it’s another financial black hole.
Davstar said | March 5th 2010 @ 8:27am | Report comment
you mke good points. The FFA has sold out a lot but i think and FFA wouldnt be a complete disaster if anything in the long run it would uncover players better and cheaper ten wha we have now and increase fan base.
Davidde Corran said | March 6th 2010 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
Hi AGO74, I completely understand that Viduka (like nearly every other footballer or professional in any industry for that matter) was also motivated by money and I have no problem with that. My point was that for Viduka there were more important things then money, and even football, for him.
I wasn’t just referencing Neill, but more the point that over the last few years the Socceroos leadership group has been dominated by those motivated by money first and foremost. The other positive things they do tend to follow that priority. Again, I have no problem with this – their life, their careers. My point was about Viduka, I wasn’t passing judgment on the others.
Killer_Tomatoes said | March 5th 2010 @ 8:43am | Report comment
FFA Cup is a great idea, but sadly, at the moment, an A2-League is a long way off being a reality, and long before it ever becomes one (if it does) it needs to operates relatively successfully as a stand alone league/entity in the same way that the USL has done in North America for so long. That is the best model essentially, as it proves which clubs are up to the task both on the field and off it (supporters, finances, etc.) to last in the top division. Relegation and promotion should be a distant, distant goal, once clubs like NQF, GC, Newcastle and Brisbane have a solid enough support base that we can be comfortable believing that relegation will not mean liquidation.
Also, before an A2 can happen, in any shape or form even stand alone, the FFA need to lose their unnatural fear of the ethnic clubs. Sides like Sydney United and Olympic, Marconi, Melbourne Knights, South Melbourne, Adelaide City, etc., have given the game so much and have so much still to offer.
I think the FFA Cup is the best way to test this, let the state sides play eachother from say State 3 to the states Top Tier (VPL, NSWPL) and then introduce A-League clubs. If, for a small club who makes it a particularly long way, as we sometimes see with the likes of Dagenham and Red making the 4th Rnd of the FA Cup, and can not feasibly afford to play say Brisbane Roar in Brisbane, then either make a rule that A-League clubs must play away in the first round, or have the FFA pay their travel costs for them. It would be a great way to reconnect all sides of the game.
clayton said | March 5th 2010 @ 9:25am | Report comment
FFA Cup please. And the perfect prize for this new cup competition would be an ACL spot (we`ll get a third spot sooner or later).
Be a chance for state league players and coaches to show their skills against the A-league boys … could lead to better scouting of the second tier.
Australian Football said | March 5th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
“In the Socceroos era of ‘Luca$h’, the former Leeds striker stands almost alone as being about something other then just the money.”
Davidde
I was with you until this line above––shame on you; Lucas is just as patriotic as the Dukes. Dukes is an Australian legend and will always be regarded by me as one of the all time greats. That said, “Luca$h” (your word) is and will also be remembered as one of the best when he announces his retirement from the Australian National Football Team.
Lucas when he returned to Australia after the 2006 World Cup made himself available for any Australian charity that wanted his services to promote their cause. He also appeared in a number of Children hospitals with Socceroo paraphernalia to put a cheer on the faces of sick children. He and Tim Cahill, ran some junior clinics whist in Sydney Australia with their limited holiday time.
Lucas also set up a scholarship for his local junior district for promising junior footballers, who came from the Manly Junior Soccer Club, by paying for their travel and accommodation costs––joining him at West Ham to receive specialist football training at his own personal expense. He too; will be honoured at his Manly Junior Football Club where it all started out for him, to be acclaimed as their local Football Hero.
After recently watching Lucas play in a game for Galatasaray on the SBS-TWG’s telecast for a fixture in the Europa League, as a Central Defender, where he was outstanding, and man of the match. I believe Lucas made the correct decision to leave the EPL for the Turkey Super league for good—himself and definitely for the good of the Australian National Football Team for its chances of honours in the coming South African 2010 WC…
His job is not done yet; and when Lucas returns to Australia, he will also contribute in a big and meaningful way for local Australian Football scene. In short your use of the word ‘Luca$h’ offends me and you should seriously consider removing it from your article now.
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AF
Punter said | March 5th 2010 @ 11:08am | Report comment
+1. I totally agree AF. Sure he needs to look after himself when it comes to the clubs & some English clubs sees him as Luca$
But for Australia, Lucas has always been there & he will add to the local scene in a big way, once his European journey has finished. I have nothing but admiration for Lucas Neill when it comes to being an ambassdor for Australian football.
Australian Football said | March 5th 2010 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
Punter, that’s three of us if you want to include MC..
with his fake European jersey.
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AF
Michael C said | March 5th 2010 @ 2:19pm | Report comment
now KB,
why would Australian Football want to mirror European Soccer??
you know you asked for it!!!!! (the way you keep popping up everytime the phrase is typed….)
Australian Football said | March 5th 2010 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
Who in the Hell is KB? Interesting jersey you have there tho—is it one of those fake European ones ?
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AF
Michael C said | March 5th 2010 @ 3:34pm | Report comment
Nothing fake about it dear sir,
it’d be fake if I was allowed to wear it in anger…….drat and all.
No, dear sir,
take for granted that Eric Krolmark, Christian Møller Larsen, Frederik Schmidt, Jesper Gjørup, Jens Djernes (a very good player by the way), Jakob Skytte Ibsen, Frederik Schulin and the rest of the lads have worn it with every bit as much pride as anyone anywhere who dons their national jumper/shirt in international competition – - all the more so when toughing it out against those darstardly Swedes………
The Currumbin R.S.L. hasn’t been flooded into the Ocean has it??? I heard an area the size of Victoria is under water up there,……..I couldn’t help but notice all these dwellings with water in them that are built flat on the ground………..what ever happened to the traditional ‘Queenslander’ dwelling??
(reminds me of when nuovo architects in Denmark decided Californian bungalows were great and a few heavy snow dumps later they got reminded why you build houses there with steep pitched roofs!!!!).
Long weekend comin’ up down here. Labour Day,…..y’know, started in Melbourne in 1856.
Australian Football said | March 5th 2010 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
Where are the sleeves then? All of the Denmark Football jerseys I know of have sleeves—like the Australian National Football jersey that our beloved captain Lucas Neil wears.. If you click on my profile image in the top corner you will be able to see what I mean
btw Carrara is under 2 feet of water—-must be an omen. i.e. no WC Football compensation—enjoy the Labour Day Holiday.
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AF
Al said | March 5th 2010 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
Maybe the Danes are now going for the Cameroon circa 2005 sleeveless shirt!
Davidde Corran said | March 6th 2010 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
You have misunderstood (and/or I didn’t make it clear enough) what I meant and was discussing. As I wrote above for another reader:
I completely understand that Viduka (like nearly every other footballer or professional in any industry for that matter) was also motivated by money and I have no problem with that. My point was that for Viduka there were more important things then money, and even football, for him.
I wasn’t just referencing Neill, but more the point that over the last few years the Socceroos leadership group has been dominated by those motivated by money first and foremost. The other positive things they do tend to follow that priority. Again, I have no problem with this – their life, their careers. My point was about Viduka, I wasn’t passing judgment on the others.
In terms of Neill’s move to Gala, it came as a big surprise to all his team-mates but it might turn out to be of great benefit to him. I’m not convinced that the drop in standard between the EPL and Turkey is that massive while the style of football he will play is reasonably suited to how the Socceroos play.
Matt said | March 5th 2010 @ 9:57am | Report comment
The idea of expanding the comp into a A2 is appealing but financially not viable. If you cast your mind back to the end of the NSL it was riddled with teams that simply could not afford to pay there way and it made a mockery of, and in the end finished, the competition. Who could forget the Eastern Pride having to play their youth team. It was a joke.
A2 would be nice, but the costs that come with playing in a national competition would preclude the budgets of these teams. As an important aside, at least one of them would be promoted and in all likelihood would not have the funds to get anywhere near the salary cap…certainly a marquee player would be out of reach.
It would only mean a revolving door of sub-standard teams getting promoted a relegated (save for a sugar daddy parachuting in for a promoted team). It is an interesting point tho, however, because FIFA president Sepp Blatter has spoken previously about the need for Australia’s competition to come into line with the rest of the world and have promotion-relegation. It may be that we have no option. If so I hope it does not ruin the competition that at the moment is whether we like it or not on shaky ground. The clubs are bleeding money, attendances (especially in Newcastle) depend on how the team is going rather than a passion for the club. That is simply because they need to establish roots in their community. There is no doubt the A-League officials realise that and are working in that direction but it takes time. Let’s walk before we can run. Everyone wants to see football thrive.
TheMagnificent11 said | March 5th 2010 @ 10:16am | Report comment
I don’t think we need an A2 league. I think the winners of each state league should have a play-off and the winner should be promoted to the A-League and the bottom team in the A-League should be relegated to their respective state league (the AFC have stated the promotion-relegation is required if we want more ACL places). Obviously, to qualify for these play-offs, the state league winners should be able to meet certain financial criteria so they can survive in the A-League if they get there. It could be a play-off tournament held at single venue like what FA do with Wembley.
There should be a similar system for the FFA Cup. Winners, runners-up and semi-finalists of state cups competitions should make it to the round of 32 in the FFA Cup. This should be played at the end of the A-League season and should replace the final series. This would make the A-League a traditional first put the post season where you play each team home and away an equal number of times (we might have to wait till there are 14-16 teams in the A-League for this to happen).
We can’t support nation-wide lower divisions and cup competitions due to the sheer size of the country (cost of travel is too expensive). The FFA could fund the travels of a few state league teams (winners, runners-up etc), but can’t subsidise everyone.
Relegation-promotion and a cup competition would go a long way to engaging the “old soccer” community. I know a number of guys I play football with would rather watch our club play Brisbane Premier League game than watch the Roar. We’ve grown up with this club and feel more connected to it. We still go along to watch the Roar, but they are like our second team.