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		<title>By: ThelmaWrites</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThelmaWrites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having just watched Luke Burgess and Josh Holmes as halfbacks in the Waratahs v Lions game, I feel very concerned that Burgess still tends to send &quot;harbour bridge passes&quot;. They&#039;re not only slow, they invite interceptions. Maybe he should consult with a biomechanics expert, like the kind that advised the cricketers Muralitharan and S Aktar about their alledged chucking deliveries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having just watched Luke Burgess and Josh Holmes as halfbacks in the Waratahs v Lions game, I feel very concerned that Burgess still tends to send &#8220;harbour bridge passes&#8221;. They&#8217;re not only slow, they invite interceptions. Maybe he should consult with a biomechanics expert, like the kind that advised the cricketers Muralitharan and S Aktar about their alledged chucking deliveries.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope you managed to go Leftie... would be a shame if the game you decided to skip happened to be this game in which the Tahs decided they&#039;d just throw it around and come up with 11 tries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope you managed to go Leftie&#8230; would be a shame if the game you decided to skip happened to be this game in which the Tahs decided they&#8217;d just throw it around and come up with 11 tries!</p>
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		<title>By: Blinky Bill of Bellingen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blinky Bill of Bellingen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAS - What a good laugh that was. It&#039;s funny how as we get older we become more understanding of some things in life and more cynical in others. With age hopefully comes experience and the ability to spot &#039;spin&#039; (bovine manure), a mile away. I&#039;ve enjoyed your flip side to Hickey&#039;s remarks. It would be even funnier if it weren&#039;t, in part at least, true.

One big thing I&#039;d like to see develop into a Habit is the willingness, persistence and ability to impose OUR game on the opposition instead of overly worrying about &#039;what they just might do&#039;. 

Enough of this ”Sometimes what you end up playing is dictated by the opposition and they were trying to play a strong field-position game&quot;. Surely any coach at this level understands that you have to deal with what the other team will throw at you, work your way around it and then dictate play.

I&#039;d suggest a good starting point is to look at what we can do well and go with that as often as possible. Next look at what we can&#039;t do well and avoid that like the plague. Against the Bulls we saw good attacking &amp; counter attacking ball in hand footy and good use of the new interpretations at the breakdown. Great! Develop it until it becomes our style of play. Our kicking in the Sharks was average to poor. What does that tell you?

From where I&#039;m sitting we lack persistence. If something isn&#039;t quite going to plan we too quickly opt to put boot to ball. There&#039;s often better options than kicking. Let&#039;s try them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAS &#8211; What a good laugh that was. It&#8217;s funny how as we get older we become more understanding of some things in life and more cynical in others. With age hopefully comes experience and the ability to spot &#8216;spin&#8217; (bovine manure), a mile away. I&#8217;ve enjoyed your flip side to Hickey&#8217;s remarks. It would be even funnier if it weren&#8217;t, in part at least, true.</p>
<p>One big thing I&#8217;d like to see develop into a Habit is the willingness, persistence and ability to impose OUR game on the opposition instead of overly worrying about &#8216;what they just might do&#8217;. </p>
<p>Enough of this ”Sometimes what you end up playing is dictated by the opposition and they were trying to play a strong field-position game&#8221;. Surely any coach at this level understands that you have to deal with what the other team will throw at you, work your way around it and then dictate play.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest a good starting point is to look at what we can do well and go with that as often as possible. Next look at what we can&#8217;t do well and avoid that like the plague. Against the Bulls we saw good attacking &amp; counter attacking ball in hand footy and good use of the new interpretations at the breakdown. Great! Develop it until it becomes our style of play. Our kicking in the Sharks was average to poor. What does that tell you?</p>
<p>From where I&#8217;m sitting we lack persistence. If something isn&#8217;t quite going to plan we too quickly opt to put boot to ball. There&#8217;s often better options than kicking. Let&#8217;s try them.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So yesterday, we get this from the Tahs bunker:  it says a lot.  We know who is running the show and choosing the strategy:  

Tahs to run at Lions if game allows, says Hickey 
WARATAHS coach Chris Hickey would prefer his side kicked less against the Lions tonight than in their previous outing against the Sharks - but cannot guarantee that will be the case. 

(So, he is still in denial as to how to play under the new interpretations and when Robbie Deans says &quot;Under the new interpreations, possession is king!&quot;, he is wrong.)

&#039;&#039;Sometimes what you end up playing is dictated by the opposition and they were trying to play a strong field-position game,&#039;&#039; he said. (So you let the opposition dictate.  Hmm, only if you give them the ball so that they can dictate.)

&#039;&#039;A big factor that influenced how we were able to play was our inability to win our kick-offs.

&#039;&#039;When we would score, we would go back and then spend the next 10 minutes trying to dig ourselves out of our own quarter.  (there was no digging, just kicking!!!  run it out of your half.  if nothing else, it would surprise the defence)

&#039;&#039;And consequently you probably kick a little  bit (a little bit, my arse) more than you wanted to. I am sure we will address those kicks-off and that will allow us to probably (this is code for we will still be kicking) play a more ball-in-hand game.&#039;&#039;

Hickey understands why Waratahs fans protested. However, while he would prefer to hear cheers, he believes some good can be derived from their boos in the second half last week. (the only good is if you change the strategy and there is no sign of that here!!!)

&#039;&#039;If people [say] that that&#039;s how they feel at the time, then I guess that&#039;s how they express it,&#039;&#039; Hickey said. &#039;&#039;In some ways it&#039;s good to see some passion among the crowd, particularly when you come back from South Africa and see the amount of involvement the crowd has in the game and the passion for the game over there. Sometimes Sydney can seem a little bit quiet and subdued.&#039;&#039;  (This is tantamount to being king hit in a pub and then the victim comments that it is good that the assailant has expressed himself!!!)

Asked whether drawing a big crowd or scoring a good win was the most important objective tonight, Hickey said: &#039;&#039;You hope (threre is lots of use of the word hope, implying that everyone else is seeing it wrongly and that eventually they will get it! Chris, no.  it is you who have got it wrong,)they go hand in hand. We want to get out and continue on from where we left off in the first half of the Sharks game. (oh dear, this is going to be ugly.  he thinks the first half was good!!!)

&#039;&#039;Hopefully, if people see that, then that gives them a reason to turn up and support.&#039;&#039;  (we supporters saw it and wont be turning up!!!!  london to a brick, the crowd is down furtther from last week)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So yesterday, we get this from the Tahs bunker:  it says a lot.  We know who is running the show and choosing the strategy:  </p>
<p>Tahs to run at Lions if game allows, says Hickey<br />
WARATAHS coach Chris Hickey would prefer his side kicked less against the Lions tonight than in their previous outing against the Sharks &#8211; but cannot guarantee that will be the case. </p>
<p>(So, he is still in denial as to how to play under the new interpretations and when Robbie Deans says &#8220;Under the new interpreations, possession is king!&#8221;, he is wrong.)</p>
<p>&#8221;Sometimes what you end up playing is dictated by the opposition and they were trying to play a strong field-position game,&#8221; he said. (So you let the opposition dictate.  Hmm, only if you give them the ball so that they can dictate.)</p>
<p>&#8221;A big factor that influenced how we were able to play was our inability to win our kick-offs.</p>
<p>&#8221;When we would score, we would go back and then spend the next 10 minutes trying to dig ourselves out of our own quarter.  (there was no digging, just kicking!!!  run it out of your half.  if nothing else, it would surprise the defence)</p>
<p>&#8221;And consequently you probably kick a little  bit (a little bit, my arse) more than you wanted to. I am sure we will address those kicks-off and that will allow us to probably (this is code for we will still be kicking) play a more ball-in-hand game.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hickey understands why Waratahs fans protested. However, while he would prefer to hear cheers, he believes some good can be derived from their boos in the second half last week. (the only good is if you change the strategy and there is no sign of that here!!!)</p>
<p>&#8221;If people [say] that that&#8217;s how they feel at the time, then I guess that&#8217;s how they express it,&#8221; Hickey said. &#8221;In some ways it&#8217;s good to see some passion among the crowd, particularly when you come back from South Africa and see the amount of involvement the crowd has in the game and the passion for the game over there. Sometimes Sydney can seem a little bit quiet and subdued.&#8221;  (This is tantamount to being king hit in a pub and then the victim comments that it is good that the assailant has expressed himself!!!)</p>
<p>Asked whether drawing a big crowd or scoring a good win was the most important objective tonight, Hickey said: &#8221;You hope (threre is lots of use of the word hope, implying that everyone else is seeing it wrongly and that eventually they will get it! Chris, no.  it is you who have got it wrong,)they go hand in hand. We want to get out and continue on from where we left off in the first half of the Sharks game. (oh dear, this is going to be ugly.  he thinks the first half was good!!!)</p>
<p>&#8221;Hopefully, if people see that, then that gives them a reason to turn up and support.&#8221;  (we supporters saw it and wont be turning up!!!!  london to a brick, the crowd is down furtther from last week)</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shower or two forecast tomorrow so they have the excuse already to kick all night again :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shower or two forecast tomorrow so they have the excuse already to kick all night again <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bennalong</title>
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		<dc:creator>bennalong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT WAS GAME 4 LAST WEEK . IT&#039;S NOT LAST YEAR. THEY WERE JUST BACK FROM AFRICA .WAIT AND SEE BEFORE DRAMATIZING. SHEEEET!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT WAS GAME 4 LAST WEEK . IT&#8217;S NOT LAST YEAR. THEY WERE JUST BACK FROM AFRICA .WAIT AND SEE BEFORE DRAMATIZING. SHEEEET!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Wavell Wakefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wavell Wakefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a non-Australian I would offer that the Waratahs backline is the 3rd best of the Australian franchises, and accordingly the team plays to its strengths. A new coach may help, but then Burgess has spent months in camp with the Australian test team over the past two seasons and yet nobody there seemed to help him to learn to pass properly either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a non-Australian I would offer that the Waratahs backline is the 3rd best of the Australian franchises, and accordingly the team plays to its strengths. A new coach may help, but then Burgess has spent months in camp with the Australian test team over the past two seasons and yet nobody there seemed to help him to learn to pass properly either.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete, i was a tah zealot, for more than 30 years and can live through losing games.  But this is now ridiculous.  As regards the debate, there are less people debating,  (I accept that it could be that my articles dont do the job!!)less people attending, less people watching etc. 

It can only end where the Reds are currently, financially!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete, i was a tah zealot, for more than 30 years and can live through losing games.  But this is now ridiculous.  As regards the debate, there are less people debating,  (I accept that it could be that my articles dont do the job!!)less people attending, less people watching etc. </p>
<p>It can only end where the Reds are currently, financially!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need Michael Cheika.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need Michael Cheika.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 00:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN.</p>
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		<title>By: Even looser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even looser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed. All is forgiven. Where do I sign?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed. All is forgiven. Where do I sign?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LAS, there are obviously a spectrum of supporters. On one side those who have unconditional support, on the other those that hold a mirror up to the organisation.

Both sets of supporters are required. The zealots are required so the players have confidence and back themselves, knowing that no matter the repercussions on the field they will be supported.

Whilst those fans that challenge the team, call for soul searching in order to achieve greater heights. 

The good thing for the Tahs is that we all want them to do well and are passionate enough to debate it… because we give a damn.

Being a zealot, the players and staff aren’t immune from my criticism, but I’ll always support them.

Anyway, I’ll see you at the game on Friday... you’ll notice me I’m the one wearing rose tinted glasses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LAS, there are obviously a spectrum of supporters. On one side those who have unconditional support, on the other those that hold a mirror up to the organisation.</p>
<p>Both sets of supporters are required. The zealots are required so the players have confidence and back themselves, knowing that no matter the repercussions on the field they will be supported.</p>
<p>Whilst those fans that challenge the team, call for soul searching in order to achieve greater heights. </p>
<p>The good thing for the Tahs is that we all want them to do well and are passionate enough to debate it… because we give a damn.</p>
<p>Being a zealot, the players and staff aren’t immune from my criticism, but I’ll always support them.</p>
<p>Anyway, I’ll see you at the game on Friday&#8230; you’ll notice me I’m the one wearing rose tinted glasses.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 21:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rugby future, 

a couple of questions on your assumptions: 

1. Are the Waratahs currently stable?

2. Is a stable decline into receivership a good thing?

3. Is stability in and of itself, important?

Three resounding &quot;No&#039;s&quot; from me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rugby future, </p>
<p>a couple of questions on your assumptions: </p>
<p>1. Are the Waratahs currently stable?</p>
<p>2. Is a stable decline into receivership a good thing?</p>
<p>3. Is stability in and of itself, important?</p>
<p>Three resounding &#8220;No&#8217;s&#8221; from me!</p>
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		<title>By: Spook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the answer is player power and Phil Waugh.  Will LAS accuse his beloved Tahs of such a thing?  He is prepared to level these accusations at other sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the answer is player power and Phil Waugh.  Will LAS accuse his beloved Tahs of such a thing?  He is prepared to level these accusations at other sides.</p>
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		<title>By: rugbyfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugbyfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the question is, do the waratahs need stability, or do they need Michael Cheika?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the question is, do the waratahs need stability, or do they need Michael Cheika?</p>
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		<title>By: dunc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dunc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hickey was producing this sort of rubbish over in New Zealand he would have got the chop by now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hickey was producing this sort of rubbish over in New Zealand he would have got the chop by now.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pete, to define entertainment, go and have a look at a decent club match, say randwick and easts.  you will get two teams playing the game flat out.  sure there are mistakes, but that is becasuse they are trying to play the game skillfully.

League has a lower error rate but that is often because the game is a simpler to play.  rugby is a very complex game and difficult to play near to perfection.  but rugby players and spectators understand that.  they just want to see their team giving it a go, and do it intelligently and taking into account, all the stakeholders, palyers, spectators, sponsors, etc.

no one is enjoying it at the moment and it will only get worse as the season goes down the preverbial!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pete, to define entertainment, go and have a look at a decent club match, say randwick and easts.  you will get two teams playing the game flat out.  sure there are mistakes, but that is becasuse they are trying to play the game skillfully.</p>
<p>League has a lower error rate but that is often because the game is a simpler to play.  rugby is a very complex game and difficult to play near to perfection.  but rugby players and spectators understand that.  they just want to see their team giving it a go, and do it intelligently and taking into account, all the stakeholders, palyers, spectators, sponsors, etc.</p>
<p>no one is enjoying it at the moment and it will only get worse as the season goes down the preverbial!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no.  I want to watch rugby, not non rugby, a la kicking and lack of intent.  i have not ever mentioned perfection.  that rarely occurs in a game and definitely not throughout a whole game.  but a big scrum, or fast ruck ball or sweeping backline play is close to perfection for me.

i want to see all aspects of rugby.  clever tactics that are unpredictable and which expose the oppostion.  eventually, it has to incluce scoring tries.  that is rugby: 5 pointz!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no.  I want to watch rugby, not non rugby, a la kicking and lack of intent.  i have not ever mentioned perfection.  that rarely occurs in a game and definitely not throughout a whole game.  but a big scrum, or fast ruck ball or sweeping backline play is close to perfection for me.</p>
<p>i want to see all aspects of rugby.  clever tactics that are unpredictable and which expose the oppostion.  eventually, it has to incluce scoring tries.  that is rugby: 5 pointz!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you dont know OJ then we cant tell you..</description>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stirring stuff Pete, I like it............ GO THE TAH&#039;S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stirring stuff Pete, I like it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230; GO THE TAH&#8217;S</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:24:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even looser: there is nothing wrong with the word &#039;entertainment&#039; when talking about Rugby, as long as you want Robbie Williams to jump out of the ball and have streamers shoot out of his a*rse as he bursts into the first line of &quot;Leeeeeeet meeeeee entertain you&quot;...

... but seriously, I guess it comes down to how you define &#039;entertainment&#039;. If its enjoyment; we all want that. However, what we find &#039;enjoyable&#039; differs. I&#039;m obviously in the minority. My enjoyment comes from walking into the stadium with high hopes, standing with my mates, getting frustrated with the refs, the opposition and the Tahs, admiring the grit of the players and enjoying the &#039;entertaining&#039; passages of play when they come around. I then enjoy discuss the play with whoever will listen and then discuss it further on The Roar,  but if one of the elements is missing I&#039;m not bitter.

Its the experience that does it for me. I find that enjoyable or want for a better word, entertaining. Perhaps I&#039;m easier to please. N.E.B. described my loyalty as &#039;innocence&#039;. That infers child like qualities. May be my view of the game is childish; but in saying that life is rosier on this side. Thankfully my &quot;dirty dozen&quot; wear the same shade of glasses. Perhaps others could don a similar pair, there is a lot less angst.

... or perhaps I took too many hits to the head throughout my playing days. Either way, The Tahs, for better or worse are my team and I&#039;ll support them no matter what.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even looser: there is nothing wrong with the word &#8216;entertainment&#8217; when talking about Rugby, as long as you want Robbie Williams to jump out of the ball and have streamers shoot out of his a*rse as he bursts into the first line of &#8220;Leeeeeeet meeeeee entertain you&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230; but seriously, I guess it comes down to how you define &#8216;entertainment&#8217;. If its enjoyment; we all want that. However, what we find &#8216;enjoyable&#8217; differs. I&#8217;m obviously in the minority. My enjoyment comes from walking into the stadium with high hopes, standing with my mates, getting frustrated with the refs, the opposition and the Tahs, admiring the grit of the players and enjoying the &#8216;entertaining&#8217; passages of play when they come around. I then enjoy discuss the play with whoever will listen and then discuss it further on The Roar,  but if one of the elements is missing I&#8217;m not bitter.</p>
<p>Its the experience that does it for me. I find that enjoyable or want for a better word, entertaining. Perhaps I&#8217;m easier to please. N.E.B. described my loyalty as &#8216;innocence&#8217;. That infers child like qualities. May be my view of the game is childish; but in saying that life is rosier on this side. Thankfully my &#8220;dirty dozen&#8221; wear the same shade of glasses. Perhaps others could don a similar pair, there is a lot less angst.</p>
<p>&#8230; or perhaps I took too many hits to the head throughout my playing days. Either way, The Tahs, for better or worse are my team and I&#8217;ll support them no matter what.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rickg, satisfaction can be guaranteed.

All it requires is for the team to play decent rugby; good tactics, passionate and skilful execution.  if the team loses, so what, it was still good to watch.  Just look at the reds.

they were getting walloped by the chiefs and despite being a tahs fan, I felt for them and hoped that they would come back and they did.  so too in the Reds tahs game, they impressed everyone with their play, win or lose.  the tahs impressed no one despite winning the game.

as for friday, I am trying to get everyone to put this into perspective.  this problem has been around for 4 seasons at least.  waiting for next friday misses the point of how long this has been going on and whatg damage is being done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rickg, satisfaction can be guaranteed.</p>
<p>All it requires is for the team to play decent rugby; good tactics, passionate and skilful execution.  if the team loses, so what, it was still good to watch.  Just look at the reds.</p>
<p>they were getting walloped by the chiefs and despite being a tahs fan, I felt for them and hoped that they would come back and they did.  so too in the Reds tahs game, they impressed everyone with their play, win or lose.  the tahs impressed no one despite winning the game.</p>
<p>as for friday, I am trying to get everyone to put this into perspective.  this problem has been around for 4 seasons at least.  waiting for next friday misses the point of how long this has been going on and whatg damage is being done.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 10:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but pete, loyalty is great.  But honesty is equally important.  allowing the current situation to continue will eventually destroy the tahs.  teams need supporters but teams also need to respect the supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but pete, loyalty is great.  But honesty is equally important.  allowing the current situation to continue will eventually destroy the tahs.  teams need supporters but teams also need to respect the supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>N.E.B. &quot;I admire your innocent support for the tahs&quot; I&#039;ll take that in the spirit I hope it was intended :) I prefer ito call it blind loyalty. It sounds more masculine and less childlike :) 

All teams need fans like myself, whilst they need those that are more critical to keep them in line. If we all agreed, it would be a pretty boring place.

&quot;you play a sport, you pay for a product&quot; we&#039;ll just have to disagree on this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>N.E.B. &#8220;I admire your innocent support for the tahs&#8221; I&#8217;ll take that in the spirit I hope it was intended <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I prefer ito call it blind loyalty. It sounds more masculine and less childlike <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>All teams need fans like myself, whilst they need those that are more critical to keep them in line. If we all agreed, it would be a pretty boring place.</p>
<p>&#8220;you play a sport, you pay for a product&#8221; we&#8217;ll just have to disagree on this one.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete
I agree with your first post. I am tired of all the criticism year after year. Who says we pay for perfection every time we buy a ticket to the game? I thank god I am not a Force fan this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete<br />
I agree with your first post. I am tired of all the criticism year after year. Who says we pay for perfection every time we buy a ticket to the game? I thank god I am not a Force fan this year.</p>
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		<title>By: mw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, oj.</description>
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		<title>By: Even looser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even looser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to stick my neck way out here. What may I ask is wrong with people using the E word when discussing Rugby?

Make no mistake about it, as Sheek (I believe it was) said elswhere, Rugby is well and truelly in the entertainment business. It&#039;s that simple. Clear as night &amp; day. Surely we can all see that? So the show better feature what the punters want to see IF it wants to keep on running a while. Otherwise it&#039;s going to need a very generous sponsor.

And yes I suppose there will always be a happy minority that will find a dozen mates to take along to the next game regardless of what&#039;s on offer. But I suspect that after a game or so of the dour stuff even the best of mates will think of excuses not to remain a member of The Dirty Dozen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to stick my neck way out here. What may I ask is wrong with people using the E word when discussing Rugby?</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it, as Sheek (I believe it was) said elswhere, Rugby is well and truelly in the entertainment business. It&#8217;s that simple. Clear as night &amp; day. Surely we can all see that? So the show better feature what the punters want to see IF it wants to keep on running a while. Otherwise it&#8217;s going to need a very generous sponsor.</p>
<p>And yes I suppose there will always be a happy minority that will find a dozen mates to take along to the next game regardless of what&#8217;s on offer. But I suspect that after a game or so of the dour stuff even the best of mates will think of excuses not to remain a member of The Dirty Dozen.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we should all boycott the game to show our disapproval. 

If they have nobody show up this weekend for Phil &quot;do it my way&quot; Waugh&#039;s 120th appearance, then perhaps they might start getting the message after 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we should all boycott the game to show our disapproval. </p>
<p>If they have nobody show up this weekend for Phil &#8220;do it my way&#8221; Waugh&#8217;s 120th appearance, then perhaps they might start getting the message after 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 06:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, but it is not just one game, this kind of negative play we saw on Saturday has been going on for quite a while now. 

Also on the NRL, I would argue that although the best league games probably don&#039;t match a great union game for entertainment, conversely the worst league games are nowhere near as bad as the worst union games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, but it is not just one game, this kind of negative play we saw on Saturday has been going on for quite a while now. </p>
<p>Also on the NRL, I would argue that although the best league games probably don&#8217;t match a great union game for entertainment, conversely the worst league games are nowhere near as bad as the worst union games.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 05:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karlos, The repacking of that scrum after goode got sent off was one of the crasiest things I have seen. I know a 5m scrum is a great attacking opp but what a waste of time. And congrats to the sharks for wasting so much time with the resets. Why wouldnt waugh realise after the first one the Sharks were going to push the boundaries with that scrum even if they gave away a penalty the stupid tahs would choose another scrum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karlos, The repacking of that scrum after goode got sent off was one of the crasiest things I have seen. I know a 5m scrum is a great attacking opp but what a waste of time. And congrats to the sharks for wasting so much time with the resets. Why wouldnt waugh realise after the first one the Sharks were going to push the boundaries with that scrum even if they gave away a penalty the stupid tahs would choose another scrum.</p>
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