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		<title>By: Davstar</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/03/22/how-a-tiny-town-outside-venice-could-save-the-a-league/comment-page-1/#comment-317260</link>
		<dc:creator>Davstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article good read </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article good read</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Dogz.  Whether he&#039;s overrated or not is a question that will be answered in a few years time, not now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Dogz.  Whether he&#8217;s overrated or not is a question that will be answered in a few years time, not now</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over.Rated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over.Rated.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogz R Barkn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogz R Barkn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last thing I would have expected to have seen on this thread was someon have a go at Kantarovski!!  He&#039;s still just a kid!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last thing I would have expected to have seen on this thread was someon have a go at Kantarovski!!  He&#8217;s still just a kid!!</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes more sense but that wasn&#039;t clear from the article, which did covera lot of topics.

I don&#039;t actually see anything attractive about a team with very little support doing better than a team with more support because they have found investors that will likely never get their money back.

I am more in the Dogz camp for sure. Sustainability is key and in most cases in the A league that means getting a good stadium deal. Manage to get crowds like MV and you reach that point where you are an attractive summer tennant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes more sense but that wasn&#8217;t clear from the article, which did covera lot of topics.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t actually see anything attractive about a team with very little support doing better than a team with more support because they have found investors that will likely never get their money back.</p>
<p>I am more in the Dogz camp for sure. Sustainability is key and in most cases in the A league that means getting a good stadium deal. Manage to get crowds like MV and you reach that point where you are an attractive summer tennant.</p>
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		<title>By: Benny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would love to have my company&#039;s name linked to Kantarovski&#039;s walking in defence or Cole&#039;s long balls to no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would love to have my company&#8217;s name linked to Kantarovski&#8217;s walking in defence or Cole&#8217;s long balls to no one.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the key in this article is about investment from medium sized businesses that are ingrained in the local community.  It means that the corporate engagement can also have an emotional component, as opposed to a purely economic one.  It is also about reciprocal arrangements.  The medium sized businesses want a higher profile and the growth of the local club provides that; the clubs want long term financial security in which a solid local business can play a role.

The question therefore is how do you ensure that the right type of business is engaged, particularly in the context of Asia.  In the past, and hopefully all of next year, the A-League has been shown on Australia Network and clubs are seen on a multitude of channels when playing in the ACL.  This provides far greater scope for exposure in the region than a domestic audience alone affords.  It is important that clubs align themselves with businesses that benefit from this exposure to achieve greater synergies.  Someone who has cash and loves football too often shall not suffice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the key in this article is about investment from medium sized businesses that are ingrained in the local community.  It means that the corporate engagement can also have an emotional component, as opposed to a purely economic one.  It is also about reciprocal arrangements.  The medium sized businesses want a higher profile and the growth of the local club provides that; the clubs want long term financial security in which a solid local business can play a role.</p>
<p>The question therefore is how do you ensure that the right type of business is engaged, particularly in the context of Asia.  In the past, and hopefully all of next year, the A-League has been shown on Australia Network and clubs are seen on a multitude of channels when playing in the ACL.  This provides far greater scope for exposure in the region than a domestic audience alone affords.  It is important that clubs align themselves with businesses that benefit from this exposure to achieve greater synergies.  Someone who has cash and loves football too often shall not suffice.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogz R Barkn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogz R Barkn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mick
that could probably be better phrased - all professional sports need corporate dollars - but what you are probably talking about is private ownership, or more accurately, having a situation where your existence relies on the benevolence of wealthy backers, rather than being self-sustaining through your football operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick<br />
that could probably be better phrased &#8211; all professional sports need corporate dollars &#8211; but what you are probably talking about is private ownership, or more accurately, having a situation where your existence relies on the benevolence of wealthy backers, rather than being self-sustaining through your football operations.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davidde, 
The A-League has had a few problems but does not need &#039;saving&#039;. Your Italian example seems pretty irrelevant. Fans are the way forward, not corporate dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davidde,<br />
The A-League has had a few problems but does not need &#8216;saving&#8217;. Your Italian example seems pretty irrelevant. Fans are the way forward, not corporate dollars.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogz R Barkn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dogz R Barkn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:33:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one indisputable fact is that Serie C clubs and Eerstedivisie clubs (2nd tier of Dutch football), have crowds that are either on par with the A-League, or far, far less than the A-League, and yet they sustain wage levels that are around that of the A-League, or slightly higher.

But - this is the big but - they invariably are owned by wealthy people who are happy to fund the inevitable operating loss that occurs each year.

I just can&#039;t believe that that can be in anyway sustainable over the long term.

Surely the lesson for Australian clubs is not to go down that route, rather than embracing it.

Surely two different clubs like the Victory and the Mariners are showing how to thrive in the A-League?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one indisputable fact is that Serie C clubs and Eerstedivisie clubs (2nd tier of Dutch football), have crowds that are either on par with the A-League, or far, far less than the A-League, and yet they sustain wage levels that are around that of the A-League, or slightly higher.</p>
<p>But &#8211; this is the big but &#8211; they invariably are owned by wealthy people who are happy to fund the inevitable operating loss that occurs each year.</p>
<p>I just can&#8217;t believe that that can be in anyway sustainable over the long term.</p>
<p>Surely the lesson for Australian clubs is not to go down that route, rather than embracing it.</p>
<p>Surely two different clubs like the Victory and the Mariners are showing how to thrive in the A-League?</p>
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		<title>By: Axel V</title>
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		<dc:creator>Axel V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article.

Does the furniture company finance the club at a significant loss? Are the crowd numbers not so important when they have sponsorships and TV deals that dwarf the crowd revenue in comparison?

Smart of them to have a Socceroo that may(or may not) sky rocket in value after the World Cup, perhaps the A-League could take a more professional approach when scouting for under rated players, develope them and sell them for much higher as another source of club income.

Clubs like Arsenal, Ajax and PSV buy gifted players for peanuts, (e.g less than 5 million AUD) and end up selling them for 50 million plus (or at any profit)! Of course the scale of finance down here is completely different, but the same rule could apply for buying somone for $100,000 and selling them for $500,000. Is it true that Beijing get paid 10x more than the A-League salary cap?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article.</p>
<p>Does the furniture company finance the club at a significant loss? Are the crowd numbers not so important when they have sponsorships and TV deals that dwarf the crowd revenue in comparison?</p>
<p>Smart of them to have a Socceroo that may(or may not) sky rocket in value after the World Cup, perhaps the A-League could take a more professional approach when scouting for under rated players, develope them and sell them for much higher as another source of club income.</p>
<p>Clubs like Arsenal, Ajax and PSV buy gifted players for peanuts, (e.g less than 5 million AUD) and end up selling them for 50 million plus (or at any profit)! Of course the scale of finance down here is completely different, but the same rule could apply for buying somone for $100,000 and selling them for $500,000. Is it true that Beijing get paid 10x more than the A-League salary cap?</p>
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		<title>By: whiskeymac</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiskeymac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 00:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am i right in surmising that you are saying  (i) small towns with big corporate backing survive despite miniscule crowds. (ii) the secret to happy commercial backing being potential exposure across the continent you play in. 

if so, then I think the HAl has that already but with the added bonus of better crowds and a better TV deal, without inflated wages. Not saying we cant learn form other clubs, and i think we shld always be looking to improve,   but what we can learn, and are getting better at, is to leverage transfer $ back into the game and try and develop grass root and community ties.

if SFC and NQ both lost about 5-6M this season, and had succesful seasons despite their varying positions on the table etc, you need to keep the sponsors happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am i right in surmising that you are saying  (i) small towns with big corporate backing survive despite miniscule crowds. (ii) the secret to happy commercial backing being potential exposure across the continent you play in. </p>
<p>if so, then I think the HAl has that already but with the added bonus of better crowds and a better TV deal, without inflated wages. Not saying we cant learn form other clubs, and i think we shld always be looking to improve,   but what we can learn, and are getting better at, is to leverage transfer $ back into the game and try and develop grass root and community ties.</p>
<p>if SFC and NQ both lost about 5-6M this season, and had succesful seasons despite their varying positions on the table etc, you need to keep the sponsors happy.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure if outside investors pumping money in is the answer though. That has been the undoing of clubs before when they have a wage bill not sustainable from their support so as soon as said investors run out of spare change the club goes into a serious spiral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure if outside investors pumping money in is the answer though. That has been the undoing of clubs before when they have a wage bill not sustainable from their support so as soon as said investors run out of spare change the club goes into a serious spiral.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davvide

I think making the ACL is considered the best part of the A-League and what binds it together... why Fat Tony (Clive Palmer) runs the Fold Coast... and why gov pits in so much money...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davvide</p>
<p>I think making the ACL is considered the best part of the A-League and what binds it together&#8230; why Fat Tony (Clive Palmer) runs the Fold Coast&#8230; and why gov pits in so much money&#8230;</p>
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