Socceroos don’t neccessarily need a Dutch coach
By Davidde Corran, 27 Mar 2010 Davidde Corran is a Roar Expert
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Socceroo's coach Pim Verbeek chats with Harry Kewell during a training session at ANZ Stadium, Sydney, Thursday, June 19, 2008. The Socceroo's take on China in a World Cup qualifying match this Sunday, June 22. AAP Image/Dean Lewins
I nearly fell off my chair the other morning when I read some of the responses to the news that Frank Rijkaard had been approached by Football Federation Australia for the Socceroos coaching job after the World Cup.
It would seem that some within the Australian football community are concerned by the notion that FFA are only considering Dutch applicants for the Socceroos’ managerial position.
That idea is as ridiculous as it is depressing and I’m feeling some jingoistic undertones amongst these sentiments.
For starters, who cares if FFA does hire a Dutch coach?
If the coach is good enough, then it shouldn’t matter where they came from. While there has been some debate over the Socceroos’ style under current manager Pim Verbeek, Dutch appointments have hardly led Australian football astray (Rob Baan might have sat on a nice salary, but at least his biggest ill was wasting our time).
Football is a contact game.
Despite its professional status and all the money within the sport, globally, the hiring process tends to veer between “helping out mates” and political manoeuvrings.
Just like with everything else, I suppose.
What this means, though, is that most of the contacts Football Federation Australia are going to have easy access to, thanks to our recent history, will be Dutch.
The Age’s redoubtable Michael Lynch wrote on Wednesday that: “The game’s governing body has pledged to ”look in every corner of the world” for the best available coach, and the prospect of another foreigner – quite possibly of orange hue – looms large, especially as FFA boss Ben Buckley confirmed this week that Verbeek would be sounded out about possible successors. Given the way the FFA has structured the local game it’s hard to see how it has much alternative.”
It’s a point I’d disagree with.
Just because FFA is basing its youth development system on the “classic Dutch” 4-3-3 doesn’t necessitate that the Socceroos coach also hails from the Netherlands.
The whole point of teaching our youths the 4-3-3 system is because it is so adaptable. Therefore, the Socceroos coach doesn’t have to be of orange hue.
So let’s not get caught up in unnecessary discussion and focus on what’s best for the future of the Socceroos – a top quality coach. Where that person was born is hardly relevant.
Meanwhile, Rijkaard being linked with the Socceroos job is good news for Australian football.
While it would be nice to have a local coach leading our national team, there is no doubt that Australia doesn’t have a home grown candidate who is ready yet.
In fact, there won’t be one for at least another World Cup cycle if not longer.
So Frank Lowy’s interest in Riijkard, who is on a very tidy salary in Turkey, means the Australian billionaire is willing to spend big to bring in a high-class name.
The link between former Socceroos assistant manager Johan Neeskans and Riijkard also shows that FFA are thinking in detail about this appointment. It won’t be rushed and it will be well considered.
Personally I have concerns about Riijkard’s lax stance on discipline during his time as Barcelona manager, but while it might not work out, FFA’s contact with Riijkard is a promising sign for the Socceroos.
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agga78 said | March 27th 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
When has total football or the Dutch in particular won anything, 1 European championship thats it. The dutch produce good invidual players, but as a team they fail on most occassions, so following a dutch system at youth level could be a success, we could produce quality indivdual players, but at the very higest level we should get the best available manager who can work with the talent that perhaps the dutch junior system has produced, not just a dutch manager for the sake he is dutch.
dasilva said | March 27th 2010 @ 10:43am | Report comment
Well Total Football has won 3 European Cup titles with Ajax in the row.
Nevertheless I agree with the sentiments that we shouldn’t restrict coach selection to nationality. Although I do like the sound of rijkaard
David V. said | March 27th 2010 @ 11:33am | Report comment
Won’t doubt the success it brought Dutch club sides. They’ve still only won just the one European Championship- and that because Bobby Robson picked Tony Adams to face Marco Van Basten, and didn’t even pick Stuart Pearce.
Davstar said | March 27th 2010 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Frank Rijkaard would be a great coach please let it be him.
We follow the dutch system because they have a small popualtion like us however are a really powerful force in the world of football. They also play nice football granted Verbeek hasn’t but generally they do, also we keep our dutch obession because he has served us well in the last 6 years.
We have made 2 world cup and two asian cups we failed in the 1st asian cup because we changed our coach to Arnold and the Olympics
Australian Football said | March 27th 2010 @ 9:18am | Report comment
This is the most exciting news I have read for a long, long, long time in regard to who will manage the Australian National Football Team. With Johan Neeskans as Riijkard’s right hand man, is the dream team that we should all be praying for. They won’t come cheap, but I will gladly back the FFA in getting these two men. These two are more important to our national Australian Football set up as they have both been students of the Dutch Total Football System. We need educators in this field, not an overly cautious manager who can’t offer anything but filling out a team sheet on the day in a defensive formation.
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jimbo_ said | March 27th 2010 @ 9:57am | Report comment
Frank Rijkaard’s managerial record:
Netherlands 1998-2000 – Semi finalists Euro 2000
Sparta Rotterdam 2001-2002
Barcelona 2003-2008 – EUFA Champions 2006, La Liga Title 2005,2006, Spanish SuperCup 2005,2006
Galatasaray 2009-Now – the privilege of coaching Harry Kewell and Lucas Neil.
Pretty good resume.
Let’s not get too hung up about a “Dutch Style”.
Guus the Great had a different managerial style and tactical play to Pimbo.
Rijkaard has a different style again, particularly the way he played with Barcelona, completely different to the way Pimbo plays with the Socceroos.
Pimbo is probably closer to the Italian style of manager with 2 holding midfielders in front of the back four and a lone striker, particularly if the opponent is less likely to concede any goals and rely on the counter, like most good Italian managers do.
Someone of Rijkaard’s stature would be great for the Australian game and keep the national team moving ahead. And he is coaching Harry Kewell and Lucas Neil right now at Gala.
I seriously doubt though that he would leave Europe and come to work in Asia and Australia, no matter how much the FFA offers him.
Rob said | March 27th 2010 @ 11:41am | Report comment
How much further ahead would we be now if we had chosen Troussier instead.
Hopefully Frank Lowy has his hands on firmly on the wheel this time. Picking Verbeek was a weak, risk managed, project managers decision made by a committee of non footbal people who didnt have the knowledge to make a decision.
Still havent got a clue what Rob Baan actually did
Australian Football said | March 27th 2010 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Not sure why people are coming down hard on Rob Baan? He did start the process by implementing small sided games and writing the new football curriculum. I’m puzzled by all of this criticism of Rob Baan?
Rob said | March 27th 2010 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
If thats what he did then cool. i honestly just didnt know what he actually did. he was so elusive and left without formally presenting anything….but I seem to remember Han Berger saying he basically had to start from scratch?
Realfootball said | March 28th 2010 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
That is the most succinct summary of Verbeek’s appointment that I have read so far.
100% in agreement.
Punter said | March 28th 2010 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
Where is Troussier now? The last time I heard he went to lower tier Japanese club, not exactly a world class position.
Davidde Corran said | March 29th 2010 @ 2:36am | Report comment
Rob – I think we’d be a further year or two down the path of national development if Troussier has of been here. I also think FFA would have had a massive shake up within its ranks.
Australian Football – The Small Sided Games initiative wasn’t even Baan’s idea. It came from a grassroots movement. I wouldn’t get to excited about his contribution to the national curriculum either. If our media cared enough and had more understanding of these areas in football then FFA during that period of time would have been found out.
Punter – You’re right on about Troussier. He spent a little while in the Japanese third division and stayed off the radar since.
Australian Football said | March 29th 2010 @ 8:24am | Report comment
Davidde,
Bann may not have invented the small sided games in Australia, but was instrumental in getting it started in Australia and he had put together an information glossy document to be distributed through the Associations of Australia. He appeared on TWG with Ben Buckley to present it to the viewers. The document entailed the curriculum and information for coaches to get small sided games of football going in Australia.
Davidde Corran said | March 29th 2010 @ 9:11pm | Report comment
I know all about that document and who wrote it. I.e. not Baan.
Luke10 said | May 26th 2010 @ 10:52am | Report comment
Troussier would be a very good national coach, if he can take a side like Japan to the last 16 of the 2002 WC, imagine what he could do with Australia. Other nations like Algeria have shown interest in Troussier post WC 2010. FFA need to move on a coach NOW rather than wait to see what friends Verbeek has in his pipeline.
Why Troussier?
1. He has a excellent knowledge of the Asian region (Asia Cup 2000), World Cup and national coaching experience.
2. Australia has to be a better position than FC Ryuku (Okinawa) or Algeria National Coach. FFA could snap up Troussier on a good deal.
Rob said | March 27th 2010 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
I cant find an up to date version of this, but as follows is a list, by nationality ,of the players who competed in the champions league in 2007. Makes interesting reading when discussing what football cultures produce the best players.
Brazil 98
France 64
Italy 55
Spain 53
Portugal 41
Germany 38
Turkey 37
Argentina 32
England 26
Scotland 25
Romania, Ukraine and Netherlands 23
Serbia 22
Czech Republic 20
Norway 16
Russia 15
Ivory Coast 14
Greece and Poland 10
Denmark 8
Sweden, Uruguay and Nigeria 7
Croatia, Slovakia and Mexico 6
Switzerland and Cameroon 5
Belgium, Colombia, Ghana, Finland, Australia and Senegal 4
Bosnia, Chile and Mali 3
Albania, Paraguay, Israel, Belarus, Ireland, Peru, Northern Ireland, Austria and Georgia 2
Wales, Macedonia, Montenegro, Lithuania, New Zealand, China, Honduras, Japan, Iceland, Togo, Congo, Uzbekistan, Morocco, Cyprus, Guinea, Ecuador and USA 1
Rob said | March 27th 2010 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
and I guess you have to interpolate this considering relative populations Brazil 98 players 192mill population, Holland 23 players 16mill population…etc
Roger Rational said | March 28th 2010 @ 2:35am | Report comment
It would be more helpful to know the numbers from each nation who played in, say, the Quarter Finals. It’s clearly nonsensical that Scotland rank higher than Holland and almost as high as England.
jimbo_ said | March 28th 2010 @ 9:52am | Report comment
Shows how tough its going to be in the WC – Germany 38 players in the ECL, Serbia 22 (2 football teams) and Ghana 4 (same as us).
TheMagnificent11 said | March 27th 2010 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
Our national team does not have to play 4-3-3 just because our youth development is based around playing 4-3-3. Han Berger has said that he believe 4-3-3 is a flexible system that is good for developing the technical skills of players and makes them adaptable. Once, a player is good enough to play for the national team, he should be adaptable enough to play a few different systems. Therefore, the nationality and tactics of the national team coach is not as important as the youth coaches. I understand hiring Dutch youth coaches but the national team coach should be the best available candidate, not the best available Dutchman.
TheMagnificent11 said | March 27th 2010 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
But Frank Rijkaard would be an awesome appointment!!!
Davstar said | March 27th 2010 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
Rijkaard would be great, we need a coach that has really played at the highest level i think thats what Pim lacked and its why out football was quite boring no disrespect to pim he has done a fine job. However i feel to continue to grow as a footballing nation we need a coach that can say “at AC Milan we did this”, “at barca we did that” and “Man U approched it this way” etc or something like. Because how can you know how to play the best football if you have never played it your self?
jupiter53 said | March 27th 2010 @ 7:11pm | Report comment
Arrigo Sacchi is an obvious exception to your proposition.
He never played professionally but coached his local club starting at age 26 and stepped through the levels to Parma then Milan. He coached them to two European titles and also coached Italy to 2nd place at USA 94.
Terry Butcher we all know is a player who did play for a good UEFA Cup winning team [Ipswich] and many times for England……as a Sydney supporter with bitter experience I want to see coaching record ahead of playing record.
Davstar said | March 27th 2010 @ 9:29pm | Report comment
For every one you can name there are 10 good coach that were all good players its better to play it sfe then sorry there is always exceptioins to the rules but remember it doesnt happen often
ajb said | March 27th 2010 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
i just want a good coach able to foster the development of youth players!
ilikelollies said | March 27th 2010 @ 8:27pm | Report comment
Davstar hit the nail on the head.
We follow the Dutch system because they have a population of only 20 million people but are one of the great nations in world football. they are able to do this because they drill technical discipline and techniques into there young kids which enables them to overcome there lack of resources
The fact they havent won many comps is irrelavent, that is caused by there inbred arroganace and tendancy to speak their mind then anything else.
Davstar said | March 27th 2010 @ 9:34pm | Report comment
Thx but actually hollands population is 16 million australias pop is around 20 million
Its also important to note that the dutch have produced a large number of world class players.From Italy to england and Spain they have had there product light up the leagues.
Ruud Van Nis, Van Persie and Van der Sar are just a few
cosmos forever said | March 28th 2010 @ 7:44am | Report comment
population v quality player is a nonsensical argument. Holland doesn’t have four competing codes of football.
I bet the registered senior players would be a very different statistical set.
jimbo_ said | March 28th 2010 @ 9:58am | Report comment
Exactly cosmos,
we have a similar population to Taiwan, Syria, Ivory Coast, Romania, Sri Lanka, Mozambique, Madagascar and Cameroon.
What does that mean?
Pimbo doesn’t play a Dutch Style, its an Italian style of play with 2 holding midfielders in front of the back four and a lone striker, relying on defense and a goal on the counter, like most good Italian managers do.
Davstar said | March 28th 2010 @ 10:16am | Report comment
How is it a ‘nonsensical’ arguement there crowd numbers in there league isnt all that much higher then our A-league if you take out Ajax and PSV. Its an example to our A-league to best manage a league, honestly i cant think of a succesful league that Austalia could copy other than the dutch? We obviously cant do it our own way 32 years of not going to the world cup proves that, we’re going to the world cup because of dutch influence thats all i know and im greatful. Because if you’re not part of one of those 32 nations you’re miss out on something special imo. France, England, Italy, Spain and germany all have large populations thus crowd numbers are much higher.
I agree Pim plays a more bland style but its more so because his not a great coach dont blame the dutch for one mans way. Guus was a great coach he had Australia playing great football and he uncoved and put faith in Luke Whilshire who has turned out to be a great player when no one had even heard of him before.
I dont think our coach has to be dutch but i think our technical development should be