There’s more diving in AFL than football
By Mike Tuckerman, 20 Apr 2010 Mike Tuckerman is a Roar Expert
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Bernie Vince taking a diving mark during the Round 3 AFL match between Port Adelaide Power and the Adelaide Crows at AAMI Stadium. GSP Images
Switching on the TV on Easter Monday, I found myself watching parts of Geelong’s blockbuster AFL clash with Hawthorn at the MCG. I had little idea of what was going on, but one thing that caught my eye was how long players from each side spent prostrate on the turf.
Since I originally hail from western Sydney – where AFL penetration ranks somewhere between zero to non-existent – I wouldn’t know my fullback from my full-forward.
Needless to say, my interest in the game was minimal, but it didn’t stop Channel Ten’s commentators from breathlessly announcing just how much the “traditional” clash was part of the fabric of Australian culture.
This came as news to me – since I don’t think I’ve ever taken notice of an Aussie Rules match before – and I’d have thought nothing more of my dabble in this strangely foreign sport were it not for a couple of articles by Roar reader Luc Knight last week.
If Luc was looking to stir up the masses, he certainly managed to do just that with a piece entitled “Why football struggles for support in Australia.”
His contention was a noble one – that diving is a blight on the round-ball game.
However, many readers took Luc’s claim that diving was holding back football in Australia as a thinly-veiled attack on the game.
He followed it up with another piece called “Diving in football the best advertisement for other sports,” and this time he quoted Melbourne Victory skipper Kevin Muscat for good measure.
Now, I think it’s great that Luc has shared his personal thoughts on football, and just like Kevin Muscat, he’s certainly entitled to his opinions.
But I don’t agree with his assertion that diving is what’s holding back potential supporters from pouring through A-League turnstiles.
If Australians find going to ground so culturally offensive, I wonder why there were around 70,000 fans inside the MCG on Easter Monday when both Geelong and Hawthorn players seemed to tumble over with dizzying frequency.
And of the many problems currently plaguing the A-League, diving would have to rate somewhere between lousy weather and the lack of hot pies at the concession stands as a genuine concern for Football Federation Australia.
None of this would bother me if it weren’t for the fact that so many within the AFL – from the likes of Andrew Demetriou to the most casual of supporters – seem to consider it their personal duty to lecture football fans on why the round-ball code will “never be the Number 1 sport in Australia.”
Most A-League fans couldn’t care less whether football is the Number 1 code or not, but I can guarantee that it gets incredibly tiresome to hear from folks who have little interest in football about what it should do to attract more fans.
If a few Brazilian prima-donnas trying to milk fouls in the Asian Champions League is enough to put some Australians off ever watching the round-ball game, I can’t help but point out that football will go on without them.
Far from football needing to change to suit the sensibilities of a few disgruntled Australian hold-outs, it’s certain Australians who need to come to grips with the fact that the game is already pretty popular around the globe – with or without their support.
And those who claim that they won’t watch the A-League because of diving are probably being a bit disingenous – I’m Australian, I dislike diving, but the sheer drama of an average football match far outweighs the occasional instances of play-acting.
With the World Cup finals just over fifty days away, long-suffering football fans can expect another flood of barely disguised anti-football rhetoric to hit our media.
But personally, I’d rather see some so-called “divers” go around than watch another game of Aussie Rules.
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April 20th 2010 @ 9:55am
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
The more interesting point that Mike raises about AFL’s smug superiority as their self-proclaimed titled of AFL being “the national game”, “fabric of our culture” etc.
I agree with this. The AFL is so smug proclaiming its the national game (who can forget the advertising them “the game that made Australia) – or whatever it was titled a couple of years ago), but in short it’s bollocks. Yes, they have teams in Sydney and Brisbane, but are niche markets with virtually zero penetration (e.g. Swans outrated – again – by Iron Chef in first two saturday night games of this year). Yes, geographically AFL is bigger than NRL but so what? The vast majority of Australia is a vast expanse of non-inhabitable space!
More people live in NSW and Qld than the rest of Australia, yet somehow AFL is our national sport?? Virtually the same amount of people live between Wollongong and Newcastle than all of Victoria yet according to the AFL for all of those people in the places I mention AFL is our national sport?? This despite the small fact that NRL is the overwhelmingly most popular sport across NSW/QLD.
Yes, on second thoughts AFL is definitely “the game that made Australia”…..
April 20th 2010 @ 10:26am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:26am | Report comment
Zero penetration in Brisbane? Last weekend there was a Lions game, a Broncos game, and a Reds game in Brisbane. Who had the biggest crowd? Here is a hint:
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rugby-league/broncos-lose-crowd-crown-as-punters-turn-away-20100418-sm9f.html
April 20th 2010 @ 11:06am
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:06am | Report comment
Mate, if my team was playing Cronulla I wouldn’t bother turning up either!
The inarguable fact is though that Broncos are hugely more popular in Brisbane/Qld and that’s before we even consider the other small issue of State of Origin which I think means more to most Queenslanders than just about any other sporting event.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:17am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:17am | Report comment
AGO74 – I am not disputing the fact that the Broncos arenumber 1 in QLD – we all know that. And we all know the QLD’s love to get on to teams that are winning – hence why they are jumping on the Lions and off the Broncos – In fact have a read of Micheal C’s thread today which touches upon this in some posts
http://www.theroar.com.au/2010/04/20/this-week-4-weeks-in-and-attendances-are-up-just-dont-ask-about-last-week/
But when you make ridiculous comments such as “zero penetration”, you will be pulled up on it.
April 20th 2010 @ 2:34pm
Jeb said | April 20th 2010 @ 2:34pm | Report comment
zero penetration is a bit of an exaggeration but it’d be fair to say that when the lions are losing not too many people in brisbane lose much sleep. the game is probably a bit ahead of soccer (3 prems and a whole lot of mexicans will do that) but there’s not much penetration into the overall social fabric. people talk league first and second and all other codes are tiny niche markets that bubble along at different rates.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:19am
Rod said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:19am | Report comment
lol, not another AFL fan that thinks QLD is AFL heartland or getting close to it.
Hey james, had a look at the TV ratings yet?
How about the fact that 2 nights before the broncos played the last placed sharks, the Titans had 21k on the Coast.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:50am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:50am | Report comment
102,000 viewers in Brisbane only for the Lions v Bulldogs clash
+ an additional 196,000 viewers on Foxtel Australia wide
109,000 australia wide for the Reds game
So pretty good figures for a game with “zero penetration” in Brisbane
Broncos figures not released yet – will undoubtadly be the biggest, but the whole point of thir sequence of posts Rod, if you bothered to read, was the zero penetration comment.
With regards to your Titans reference – lets discuss when the AFL actually start a team on the Gold Coast.
April 20th 2010 @ 10:37am
Rod said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:37am | Report comment
haha AGO74, loved your responce.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:30am
Axel V said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:30am | Report comment
The AFL has clubs in every state capital city (except Hobart) and reguarly draw 30,000-60,000 for them.
This includes being the number one sport in the Western Australia, Northern Territory, South Australia, Tasmania and obviously Victoria. The only area’s of Australia that isn’t AFL crazed is Queensland, New South Wales and the ACT. But even Sydney Swans and Brisbane Lions draw over 30,000-50,000 per home game. In Victoria most clubs draw inbetween 40,000-70,000 for home and away matches, even 2 loser clubs that havn’t tasted success (rare top 8 appearances) for many decades such as Richmond and Melbourne can get 40,000 people.
When you have Sydney clubs in the NRL getting 15,000 to their games in the heartland of rugby, Melbourne Storm (that always wins and has favours from the NRL) averaging 10,000, and the NRL not having a club in Adelaide or Perth…..It’s pretty safe to say that, overall, AFL is the number one sport in Australia.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:48am
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:48am | Report comment
Axel – you’ve missed my point. My point isn’t about the crowds in Victoria etc. We all know AFL is God in Victoria and that’s fine. My point is that AFL is not king in NSW or Qld, yet the AFL and various supporters arrogantly insists that it is the national game. Just because you have teams in Sydney or Brisbane does not qualify it as the national game. On that basis we should argue the A-League or NBL is the national game as well. Yes, AFL has niche supporter markets in Sydney and Brisbane who turn up in good numbers, but TV is where it is at in terms of the overall profile of a sport in terms of the millions watching and in that respect AFL in NSW/QLD is far behind in the two state area that houses over half of Australia’s population. Maybe they can they qualify the following AFL statement “The game that made Australia(*)”
(*) – national in so far as south of NSW and west of NSW and Qld
April 20th 2010 @ 11:55am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:55am | Report comment
“AFL is not king in NSW or Qld” is different from “zero penetration”. If you weren’t so careless with your orginal post we would not be having this discussion right now.
Gee whizz, if that was the case, what do you consider Melbourne Storm – “negative penetration”!!
As for the “national game” comment – well lets just agree that its number 1 in Australia and leave it at that!
April 20th 2010 @ 12:10pm
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
If I have offended you with “zero penetration” then apologies, but having the Sydney Swans being beamed live into homes of Australia’s biggest market and still getting beaten – repeatedly – by a programme on the channel which always comes stone motherless last in the ratings isn’t exactly disproving my point that AFL is miles behind in NSW or Qld.
April 20th 2010 @ 2:42pm
Jeb said | April 20th 2010 @ 2:42pm | Report comment
“AFL is not king in NSW or Qld” is different from “zero penetration”.
How about next to zero penetration?
Despite your nit picking you seem to get the point: your analogy with the storm is similar to where the lions are in brisbane.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:14pm
DB said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
how can you even compare the storm in Melbourne to the Lions in Brisbane?. Storm get half of what Brisbane get with twice the population. we won’t even compare the participation of the sports, afairer comparison would probably be the swans in Sydney, but they still get twice the patrons despite being told there is so much more to do in Sydney.
April 21st 2010 @ 11:06am
JamesP said | April 21st 2010 @ 11:06am | Report comment
“your analogy with the storm is similar to where the lions are in brisbane.”
Ridiculous statement. Double the average crowds, Quadruple the TV viewing figures, “next to zero” participation and all from a city that is a third of the size. No comparison whatsoever
April 20th 2010 @ 12:02pm
Derby County FC said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Comparing Swans attendances to Sydney’s NRL attendences is just not logical. One AFL team getting 30,000 against multiple NRL teams getting on average (lets say) 15,000. Now lets just have one Sydney NRL team and see what the figure is… that is more realistic.
The majoritory of people in NSW and QLD might have a passing interest in AFL but that is about it, a massive populous…. almost half of the whole of Australia having a passing interest (at best), and it’s the national sport? Whatever.
Surely B’ball, Football and Cricket are the national sports by the AFL’s defination.
April 20th 2010 @ 12:20pm
cuzybros cuz said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
living in Sydney, I actually don’t know one person who watches the game or attends any swans matches. In fact I would go as far as saying that most people I know either dislike the game or have absolutely no interest in it.
April 20th 2010 @ 12:40pm
Michael C said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
DCFC -
mate, how often on a given Saturday have we seen the Syd Swans drawing their 30,000 attendees and the 2 or 3 NRL matches on in town that day were lucky to beat that figure combined!!!!
Whereas in Melb for example, only North vs Port (or Freo) tickles the realms of the Storm crowd average.
Brisbane is as strong a RL city as you could present and has just one NRL team and the one AFL team is doing quite nicely by comparison.
btw – QLD 2009
NRL, 37 H&A matches, 903K attendees, avg 24.4K
AFL, 14 H&A matches, 351K attendees, avg 25K
HAL, 41 H&A matches, 283K attendees, avg 6.9K
The AFL is not number 1 but is hardly insignificant. However, what is clear is on the base that it has – - it is UNDER presented in the market. Just what this equation might look like with 22 H&A games annually,……who knows.
btw – in NSW
HAL 40 H&A matches, 360K attendees, avg 9K
AFL 11 H&A matches, 338K attendees, avg 30.7K
NRL 117 H&A matches, 1746K attendees, avg 14.9K
You can see quite clearly why the AFL may as well invest in an expanded presence going into the future…….even if just to ensure that AFL state Expats are serviced well into the future. (TV ratings aside).
April 20th 2010 @ 12:58pm
DaMan3000 said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
DCFC I agree that if Australia even has a :”National Sport” it is probably cricket. Can’t back it up with stats tho – this is purely speculating on all the sports conversations I have had while living in Oz for 9 years.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:24pm
Lazza said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Cricket IS our national sport. It’s the only major sport that’s popular in ALL states.
Football is our only truly national football code. It may not be the biggest but like Cricket it has an even spread of playes and fans from all states.
April 20th 2010 @ 2:47pm
Al said | April 20th 2010 @ 2:47pm | Report comment
Totally agree, Australia’s national sport is cricket, not Aussie Rules or any of the football codes.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:07pm
JF said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
‘Football is our only truly national football code. It may not be the biggest but like Cricket it has an even spread of playes and fans from all states.’
I have to challenge this notion that football’s popularity is evenly spread across the country, I used to think this was true – but look at what is happening in Brisbane/Queensland. Is there the same support for football in Queensland as there is in Melbourne/Victoria? It looks like there is quite a big gap between these two areas in terms of interest/support. I think football will develop its own geographic strongholds like every other code in this country. But Yes, cricket is our one and only national sport.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:13pm
Norm said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
I think Netball should also be considered our national sport.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:17pm
DB said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
What about American Football? That seems to have an even spread of interest across the Australian states.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:29pm
Michael C said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
Syd/NSW is far away the Australian soccer strong hold.
Just as it is for RL,
and just as Vic is for Aust Football.
The soccer participation wins depends on what stats you look at …….. real registrations, male vs female, participation surveys including all ages/genders and organised vs not organised.
Reality though is across the nation – - for male sports, soccer probably doesn’t win many seats – - – but, may have the most votes,…..but NRL and AFL meanwhile have all the seats, have combined more votes and have formed an uneasy coalition govt!!!!
April 20th 2010 @ 7:09pm
Black Diamonds said | April 20th 2010 @ 7:09pm | Report comment
It is referred to as the “National” Game because it was invented in this nation of ours.
It is undoubtedly one of our finest cultural creations – and it is played nationally and has been for over a century.
Look at some of the Australian Football clubs in Sydney and Brisbane – they predate the Rugby League clubs!
April 20th 2010 @ 12:09pm
Redb said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
Correct. Some people just don’t like it.
April 20th 2010 @ 6:13pm
Alders said | April 20th 2010 @ 6:13pm | Report comment
I always thought the national sport was cricket.
I always find it interesting looking at the various national sports of different countries. Such as in the Netherlands where the national sport is not football but ice skating. Weird.
April 20th 2010 @ 10:08am
Australian Football said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:08am | Report comment
Mike,
this is a well timed article exposing the hyperbole that is directed at Football and those who support the FFA, Australian National Football Team, and the our HAL. Thanks for writing this article that we needed to show the ROAR they are failing to see what is apparent to all of us Football supporters.
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AF
April 20th 2010 @ 9:05pm
Dan said | April 20th 2010 @ 9:05pm | Report comment
It’s all a vast conspiracy isn’t it Aussie soccer
April 21st 2010 @ 9:10am
Australian Football said | April 21st 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Yes indeed it is. The proof is in the pudding—as you still can’t spell my name correctly..
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AF
April 20th 2010 @ 10:20am
Ben said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Obviously the game of Australian Football (NOT AFL) is too exciting and action packed for some to comprehend.
April 20th 2010 @ 10:30am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Somebody please show Mike a clip of Jarrod Harbrow and Jordan Lewis colliding 2 weekends ago. Nothing but courage and bravery, especially from Jordan Lewis. AF, Andy Roo etc please do yourselves a favour and check it out…
April 20th 2010 @ 11:14am
AndyRoo said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:14am | Report comment
Why?
I don’t think you understand the point I was making. Their is diving in both codes, it doesn’t bother me nor did it seem to bother the crowd at the Lions game.
The popularity of the code is not linked to this issue.
Edit: what’s the most popular sport in China JamesP?
April 20th 2010 @ 12:07pm
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
“There is diving in both codes” Do a goole search for “diving” and “sport” and see what you come up with.
According to Wikipedia Table tennis is the biggest amateur sport in China – so number 1 in participations stakes. It also mentions basketball, soccer, and baseball amongst its most popular sports. However soccer cant be that popular if a country with 1.5 billion people cant produce a team good enough for a World Cup…
April 20th 2010 @ 12:19pm
AndyRoo said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
“There is diving in both codes” Do a goole search for “diving” and “sport” and see what you come up with.
You just assumed football would didn’t you
I think you better check that yourself.
soccer is harldy the main sport in the top 3 biggest population centres in the world (China, India and the USA) There’s almost half of the worlds population right there….
You have to use different metrics to get those findings. If you go by tv ratings, tv rights and attendance it’s number one in China. If you go by participation then it’s not…. but then that would make it number one in Australia and America.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:32pm
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
I don’t have the time or the patience to respond like Michael C does further up in the post re attendences in NSW and QLD (AGO74 and Rod please read it!)
I am just responding (and not sure why we are talking about this up here as I initially responded to DB’s post below), that “Aussie Rules is bigger in Australia relative to size than what soccer is in the World. “, and to evidence that, I note Soccer is not the number 1 sport (and I mean comprehensively number 1 like in the places where it is popular i.e. Europe/South America) in almost half the worlds population.
April 20th 2010 @ 10:53am
DB said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:53am | Report comment
What about soccers claim to be the “world game” how smug is that? In fact I’ld say Aussie Rules is bigger in Australia relative to size than what soccer is in the World.
3.8m or 17% of Australians watch the AFL GF last year compared to “the figure for the 2006 (World cup) final was 260 million in the 54 key markets it surveyed, accounting for 90 per cent of the world’s TV households” or about 4.5% of the world watched the World Cup final. about 3% of Australians are registered in an Aussie rules competition in Australia. This figure is about 0.6% world wide for soccer.
As far as the headline for this article goes, shouldn’t that read “..in the AFL..” not ” …in AFL…” as the former makes no sense, but the whole article makes little sense.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:04am
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Makes sense what you say – soccer is harldy the main sport in the top 3 biggest population centres in the world (China, India and the USA) There’s almost half of the worlds population right there….
April 20th 2010 @ 12:10pm
Lazza said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
So what do make of sports that are unpopular in 99% of the countries in the world? Football and Basketball are the 2 biggest sports in China. Soccer is the biggest ‘football code’ in India and it’s progressing very nicely in the USA. Check the figures sometime.
April 20th 2010 @ 12:24pm
Michael C said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
non existant does not mean ‘unpopular’.
‘unpopular’ implies being present and not well ‘partronised’,
Aust Football for example is not present.
Soccer on the other hand IS present in the vast majority of nations and still only has a hand ful of decent leagues compared to the NFL, AFL and even the NRL.
How popular do you have to be????
April 20th 2010 @ 2:57pm
Al said | April 20th 2010 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
East Bengal vs Mohun Bagan, one of world football’s biggest derbies in football mad Calcutta. Football is more popular in India than what people tend to believe.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:07am
Lazza said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:07am | Report comment
There were 28 million people watching England play in one World Cup match. That’s about 50% of the country. About 50% of the TV ratings for the Olympics are for the Football tournament as well.
World Cup TV ratings are an estimate only because it’s impossible to count all those people watching on big screens or on one village TV in developing countries. FIFA are getting about $4Bn for the TV rights for a 5 week tournament. That’s alot of people watching.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:00pm
DB said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
My argument is that that Australian football has as much claim to “the Australian Game” as soccer does to the “World game”. no matter how popular soccer is in england.
I looked up the figures and it’s $2.5b (US) even with the exchange rates it comes nowhere near the $4b you quoted.
Okay, $2.5b in an $60t world enconomy equates to 0.004%.
the $156m ($143.5US) annually the AFL gets in its TV rights in the $1t Australian economy equates to 0.014%.
even if you count for number of games played 64 V 185 the AFL still more than holds it’s place as “the Australian game” if that offends you, too bad. I’m not offended when claims go out that we are a beach loving nation when I can’t stand the beach.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:19pm
Michael C said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
I don’t like the beach either.
And I’ve never been to Uluru.
Clearly I’m not an Australian!!
April 21st 2010 @ 6:30am
MV Dave said | April 21st 2010 @ 6:30am | Report comment
What a non sensical suggestion…dont even try to compare football around the world to AFL…there is none.
April 21st 2010 @ 8:54am
Australian Football said | April 21st 2010 @ 8:54am | Report comment
Ha, Ha, lol, MVDave, I just watched an interview on the World Game site where Craig Foster had said that the AFL is barely, barely, a code compared to Football around the world..
Btw Chelsea one point clear of Man U with three rounds to go. Can Chelsea hang on..? My son went to a local garage sale last Saturday and bought an old video of the history of Man U. He said he thought I would enjoy it—the cheeky bugger. My reply to that was it was more proof that the Man U supporters are leaving in their droves to support any number of the ever improving London Clubs..
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AF
April 21st 2010 @ 11:40am
Michael C said | April 21st 2010 @ 11:40am | Report comment
What’s Craig Foster doing talking about the AFL???
April 21st 2010 @ 11:53am
AndyRoo said | April 21st 2010 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Topic was Ben Buckley
April 20th 2010 @ 10:53am
cuzybros cuz said | April 20th 2010 @ 10:53am | Report comment
great article mike, Well written, well backed up. I have to agree with your article 100%. Great to see finally an unbiased article written with gusto.
April 20th 2010 @ 11:33am
Axel V said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:33am | Report comment
complete change of topic, does anyone else think that Willie Mason and Brendan Fevola look similar?
April 20th 2010 @ 11:35am
AndyRoo said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
Some school kids do because their was a clip of Fev doing the rounds of a local primary school and getting asked that very question.
April 20th 2010 @ 12:25pm
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Agree that they look similar. there was a survey carried out by a paper here recently (for once I’m pretty sure it wasn’t the Daily Schmele) that listed a number of AFL people (Sheedy, Goodes, Fevola etc) and asked people to name them. A much higher proportion of people said that Fevola was Mason!
April 20th 2010 @ 2:14pm
JamesP said | April 20th 2010 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Is this the article you were referring to: http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/you-can-tell-sheeds-hes-dreaming-20100417-slf4.html
Your anti – Australian Football comments remind me of the person Soraya Assaad in the above article, who says Sheedy is “supposed to coach a team, not to go and get members. He’s up himself”. And finishes off with saying “the AFL is one big joke”
However, leaving all the hyperbole aside, there is a line in there that reads: “The last time a similar survey was conducted, by The Sydney Morning Herald two years ago when the idea of a western Sydney team was first floated, only one person surveyed in Blacktown could identify Goodes”
If you go on to read the article in full, you will see that some progress has been made. Sheedy is doing the job he was hired to do (publicity year 1and 2, coach year 3) superbly.
April 20th 2010 @ 3:23pm
AGO74 said | April 20th 2010 @ 3:23pm | Report comment
How is me agreeing that Fevola and Mason look similar “anti-football”?! Obviously more people in Sydney know of Willie Mason than Fevola so they made the same assumption. That’s the only point I was making!
Do you see an anti-AFL conspiracy in every comment JamesP?
April 20th 2010 @ 11:36am
Aka said | April 20th 2010 @ 11:36am | Report comment
Some good points expressed there Mike. With regard to AFL being the Australian game I suppose most know that It’s only ever coming from the short sighted perspective of Southern Australians and are too polite to correct them.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:14pm
Forgetmenot said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
Im not a Southern Australian and i know that Australian Football is THE Australian game.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:08pm
Joe FC said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
Nice article Mike.
April 20th 2010 @ 1:13pm
Forgetmenot said | April 20th 2010 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
Good on you for giving the AFL a go Mike!!
Im someone who tries to watch/learn a new sport every now and then. It took me a few years to get into American Football but im there now. Ive started learning the rules of Ice Hockey and Curling recently …
Do you think you would be up for attending a football match in person?? Maybe Sydney versus Brisbane whenever it is ??
April 21st 2010 @ 11:23am
Mike Tuckerman said | April 21st 2010 @ 11:23am | Report comment
I’ve actually been to a couple of games at the SCG and one at Docklands. I find it a confusing sport to follow on TV, though.
April 21st 2010 @ 11:37am
Michael C said | April 21st 2010 @ 11:37am | Report comment
even AFL fans do to!!!!
it’s funny – with cricket it took ‘em years to get a camera at each end…..and that’s fine. We know when one over ends and the next begins……’cos there’s a different bowler and a different umpire.
but AFL on tele, they do too many ruddy camera angles, too many ‘reverse angles’ and really should try to present it more as if you’re at the game sitting on the 2nd level on the wing……..less close ups and more wider shots so we can see what space players are working in.
Alas – the directors on match days just chop and chop and chop from shot to shot………bloody annoying……the irony is, I might suggest that most people with the option, would prefer to turn the TV volume down and listen to the game on the radio,…….that bit is a bit like the cricket.
April 21st 2010 @ 12:40pm
DiCanio said | April 21st 2010 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
Got to agree with this. I’ve given AFL so many opportunites but it’s just a mess.