Selecting the Boks squad for the Tri Nations
By Rusty, 23 Apr 2010 Rusty is a Roar Guru
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South Africa's Bakkies Botha, left, Victor Matfield and Bismarck du Plessis celebrate winning the Tri Nations Cup. AP Photo/NZPA, David Rowland
Given my fellow Roar compatriots have compiled a potential Wallabies team, I thought I would take it upon myself to add some international flavour and have a go with the Boks.
This year (so far) has seen the Bulls extend their championship form from last year and the belated rise of the Stormers. Alarmingly, it has also seen the fall of the Sharks and the continuation of the cellar dwelling antics of the Cheetahs and Lions respectively.
Outside of the few notable exceptions, the Bok squad will emulate these fortunes.
The other consideration to be put into play is the extensive international fixtures list, which will necessitate some rotation and blooding of players. With that in mind, I have added a left field selection for up-and-comers or rejigging to accommodate certain players.
So onwards we go with the team list.
Loosehead – Incumbent: Tendai Mtwarira. Form: Guthro Steenkamp. Left Field: John Smit.
It could be the form of the Sharks but the Beast hasn’t exactly set the world alight. Looking at the form players, Guthro has been impressive around the park, making valuable metres, but there are still some questions on his scrumming prowess after being pretzeled on last year’s tour.
Outside chance is that Smit will continue his ballet in the front ranks and move to the left, as per the Sharks this season.
Hooker – Incumbent: Bismarck du Plessis. Form: Bismarck du Plessis, Tian Liebenberg, Gary Botha. Left Field: Adrian Strauss
You could add Smit to the mix, but I think it’s in his best interest to be tied down to a single position and at the moments that’s away from Benn Robinson on the left side of the scrum.
Bismarck still has the inside lane, but I really like what I see in the energetic Liebenberg, who scrums really well and offers great link play.
The same can be said of Botha, with both losing out on the breakdown stakes to the penalty prone Sharks hooker.
Tight Head – Incumbent: John Smit. Jannie du Plessis Form: Brok Harris
There haven’t exactly been many standout performers in this position. So, providing he learns not to throw looping passes in his own 22, then I would plumb for Harris.
Brok has scrummed well and loves getting around the park to make his tackles and take the ball up.
Locks – Incumbent: Victor Matfield, Bakkies Botha, Andries Bekker, Danie Rossouw. Form: Andries Bekker, Left Field Flip van de Merwe, Steve Sykes
Been a fairly low key season from Matfield, which might have a lot to do with his partner in crime being sidelined. Regardless, the heir apparent has put his hand up big time.
The question will be, heir to whom? Given PdV’s willingness to play Bekker as substitute to Botha it would imply he will partner Matfield.
Personally, I see Bekker as Matfield’s replacement and Botha’s someone like Flip van de Merwe or maybe one of the other engine room type locks such as Fondse to make the hard yards.
A Sykes, Bekker combo would also bring a lot to the table providing both aren’t standing in the centres together.
Openside Flank – Incumbent: Heinrich Brussouw/Schalk Burger. Form: Francois Louw, Cobus Grobbelaar. Left Field: Deon Stegmann
With Heinrich injured at the start of the season, it’s hard to tell if he would have adapted his game sufficiently to be as effective within the new interpretations.
Regardless, there have been a few players who have put their hand up. Stegmann has been very good but a bit of a yellow card magnet.
Louw within the Burger/Vermeulen trio has been outstanding.
For giving his all and still having to do the losing captain speech week on week, poor old Cobus surely deserves a spot on the pine. My guess is that that it will be Burger at open side, with either Louw/Stegmann as backup.
Blindside Flank – Incumbent: Juan Smith. Form: Schalk Burger, Dewald Potgieter Left field: Jean Deysel
Juan Smith, the unsung hero of the Bok pack, gets through an immense amount of work in the loose and rucks while being a genuine line-out option.
Deysel is blockbusting ball carrier but he needs more game time. Dewald is to my mind having a break through season and is the future.
Number 8 – Incumbent: Piere Spies. Form: Pierre Spies, Duane Vermeulen
Spies is a shoe-in for the starting spot. Kankowski would have been in contention for the backup spot, but for now it’s hard to look past Vermeulen.
Scrum-half – Incumbent: Fourie du Preez. Form: Fourie du Preez, Dewaldt Duvenhage. Left Field: Ruan Pienaar
The mantle has been slipping on Fourie a bit. Either that or he is returning to the realms of mere mortals, once more.
I would like to see Ruan playing more at scrum-half the position the brought him to the limelight in the first place.
Until then, though, I think we can be pretty happy with Dewaldt, who brings a very snappy service to the table that has kept the Stormers on the front foot.
Flyhalf – Incumbent: Morne Steyn. Form: Peter Grant, Morne Steyn.
As per usual, the South African flyhalf cupboard is full of spider webs. It doesn’t help to develop talent when two of the countries Super 14 teams are playing non-eligible players in Spencer and Goode. Which basically leaves Olivier, Grant and Steyn.
Olivier has promise but has failed to deliver. Grant has come on leaps and bounds, always keen to attack the line and give the ball some air, he has improved his overall kicking considerably.
Morne, though, is still the country’s premier flyhalf, but seems to be having a dip in form. I don’t think the dip will be enough to remove him from his position
Inside Centre – Incumbent: Wynand Olivier. Form: Wynand Olivier, Doppies le Grange Left field: Juan de Jongh, Whitehead, Swanepoel
I was really hoping Eberhson would make the step up this season as by all accounts, the kid has talent to burn.
Unfortunately, he also plays for the Cheetahs which is never going to help your back-line chances.
So that really leaves us with Olivier – the poor mans Jean de Villiers and le Grange. Ok, that was harsh on Olivier, who knows a gap when he sees one but lacks a bit of outright pace, just ask Higginbotham.
Le Grange on a stats base should be the first choice centre by a mile, except he is also part of a team that leaks tries and there are questions about how many were through his channel.
De Jongh has had some success here but it is openly acknowledged he is a retread outside who can only pass to his left.
So Olivier it is, with a specialist like Swanepoel or Whitehead backing up
Outside Centre – Incumbent: Jaque Fourie. Form: Jaque Fourie Left field: Juan de Jongh.
Jaque Fourie nuff said. De Jongh to backup
Wings – Incumbents: Bryan Habana, JP Pieterson. Form: G van de Heever, Killian Left field: Nokwe
There are a dearth of wings in South Africa, some with blistering pace, others with great skills. Very few have the complete package, which is why Habana will again lurk on the left wing.
The right wing leaves something to be desired. JP hasn’t exactly shone this season so I would like to see van de Heever in the mix.
Fullback – Incumbent: ?. Form: Zane Kirchner, Joe Pieterson Left field: Killian, Aplon, Lambie
For position where there was very little depth on Jantes injury and Montgomery’s retirement we suddenly have a wealth of talent: the solid if somewhat unspectacular Kirchner and then the talents of the Percy clone Joe Pieterson, Killian, Lambie and the diminutive ghost that is Gio “the cockroach”.
I feel it’s a year to early for Killian, so Pieterson to start and Aplon from the bench to cover FB and wing.
So the 22 is the following:
1 – Smit (Sharks)
2 – du Plessis (Sharks)
3 – Harris (Stormers)
4 – Botha (Bulls)
5 – Matfield (Bulls)
6 – Burger (Stormers)
7 – Smith (Cheetahs)
8 – Spies (Bulls)
9 – du Preez (Bulls)
10 – Steyn (Bulls)
11 – Habana (Stormers)
12 – Olivier (Bulls)
13 – Fourie (Stormers)
14 – van de Heever (Bulls)
15 – Pieterson (Stormers)
16 – Steenkamp (Bulls)
17 –Liebenburg (Stormers)
18 – Bekker (Stormers)
19 – Louw (Stormers)
20 – Aplon (Stormers)
21 – Pienaar (Sharks)
22 – de Jongh
Not much different to the current test team, but a bit of mix and match with some of the players mentioned will go a long way to getting the balance of new blood and results.
Thoughts?
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April 23rd 2010 @ 5:43am
Lee said | April 23rd 2010 @ 5:43am | Report comment
Your forward pack is exactly what I would go for but my bench may differ, then again that’s expected.
In the backs though, I’d expect jpp to keep his spot and kirchener to be at full back. JPPs defense is always good and that is where he beats Van der Heever. Yes jpp hasn’t been great this year but i think the coach has shown he sticks with incumbents until he doesn’t have a choice I.e brussouw and steyn only starting due to injury/suspension.
The obvious caveat to this is the front row where by shifting smit to 1 they may have finally found a way to include him for his captaincy without too much sacrifice.
On the bench expect rallapele(if fit) or maku to replace liebenberg.
April 23rd 2010 @ 5:51am
warrenexpatinnz said | April 23rd 2010 @ 5:51am | Report comment
Depending on how Botha plays after the long layoff I would almost suggest that Bekker on form would be better to start with. Botha to become an impact player for the last 30?
Good looking, formidable squad.
April 23rd 2010 @ 7:20am
Lee said | April 23rd 2010 @ 7:20am | Report comment
I really don’t think that PDV will drop Botha for Bekker…yes Bekkers form has been fantastic but they both offer something hugely different. Botha is a hard working physical lock – not flashy in the loose but will clear rucks and make tackles all day. Bekker may clear rucks but is very loose(granted this looks like a Stormers tactic at the minute, esp as Bekker or Burger are in the mid-field every other play).
Also Botha has been injured, and is the incumbent, can’t see him suddenly getting dropped. Bekker will be Matfields replacement in the Boks after 2011, as will Flip Van Der Merwe with regards to Bakkies. But expect both Matfield and Botha to keep their positions until then.
April 23rd 2010 @ 5:53am
pothale said | April 23rd 2010 @ 5:53am | Report comment
Rusty – if this is the squad for the Tri-Nations, what’s the likely line-up for the June Internationals?
PdV – after getting rid of the malcontents in his management team – has said that he plans to use some NH players for the test in Wales, and another line-up for the tests against France and Italy. Since he’s said publicly that he regards the Italians as the best scrumming side in the world, is he going to go with tried and tested combo or try out someone new?
April 23rd 2010 @ 8:32am
Rusty said | April 23rd 2010 @ 8:32am | Report comment
In terms of internationals – realistically there are 3 players of potential choice for the welsh test. Jean de Villiers, CJ van de Linde and Butch James – in that order. Each has made murmurs of returning home for RWC with JdV definite, CJ likely and Butch unlikely. All are in positions of value but I don’t see James getting the call up unless Bath will release him. So expect JdV and CJ to be on the bench at the millenium stadium.
April 23rd 2010 @ 9:01am
Lee said | April 23rd 2010 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Frans Steyn? BJ Botha?
April 23rd 2010 @ 8:51am
cookie said | April 23rd 2010 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Yay Smit at prop, let’s pop him every scrum…
April 23rd 2010 @ 9:23am
Rusty said | April 23rd 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
The question about Frans is where he would play. From all accounts he has finally settled into to one position at inside centre (take note Ruan). It’s also not a position we have great depth but there have been no murmurs from him or BJ on wanting to be involved in the Boks. Not that I think they would turn it down but they aren’t making the right noises in the first place. Frans has time on his side to develop and hopefully return. Botha whom I rate highly would surely be only on a emergency basis. A player I forgot to mention who will be good to evaluate next year is Juandre Kruger, from all accounts his NH stint has really developed his play and it will interesting how the Bulls use hima
April 23rd 2010 @ 9:48am
Lee said | April 23rd 2010 @ 9:48am | Report comment
Frans stated in an interview in SA Rugby a few months ago that he believed the best players – no matter where they were based – should play for the Boks but it wasn’t his decision. I think that is as clear an indication as any that he wants to play.
I always thought his best position would be inside centre – big and strong enough to crash it up and skillful enough to put some nice touches – watch the Sharks – Blues game in Auckland last year to see how classy he could be as an inside centre.
April 23rd 2010 @ 10:08am
van der Merwe said | April 23rd 2010 @ 10:08am | Report comment
That van der Heever kid is garbage, Rusty. It’s really a pity that Mapoe got crocked, because he looks like a great prospect. With Pietersen back to his lazy, formless ways, the safest right wing option is probably old reliable-yet-unspectacular Odwa Ndungane.
April 23rd 2010 @ 10:14am
van der Merwe said | April 23rd 2010 @ 10:14am | Report comment
I was under the impression that Botha was leaving Ulster and returning to stake a claim for a spot in the World Cup squad.
April 23rd 2010 @ 11:37am
Rusty said | April 23rd 2010 @ 11:37am | Report comment
From what I hear Frans has been playing very well for Racing Metro and let’s not forget it was he not JdV that saw us through the world cup. So totally agree that he would be a top candidate but he would still be an outside pick given he isn’t planning to return. Glad to hear BJ might be heading back with CJ a real boost to the front row stocks.
As for right wing, agree van de Heever isn’t the finished article but he has talent. Mapoe should have got his shot last year as the form wing, let’s hope he gets another shot. What are the thoughts on Aplon? I would have said too small but as a fullback he has no problem with the high ball, can kick and definitely can run.
April 23rd 2010 @ 1:46pm
van der Merwe said | April 23rd 2010 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
In addition to all the traits you’ve listed, Aplon also tackles like a demon – the antithesis of Rose. It’s difficult to say whether he could cut it as a Test level player, but considering Kirchner (poor man’s Jantjes) is our incumbent fullback…
April 23rd 2010 @ 11:44am
Jameswm said | April 23rd 2010 @ 11:44am | Report comment
Rusty – I’m not going to comment on your selections because as an Aussie I don’t care too much who you pick (I save my energy for picking the Wallabies) – but I just wanted to say that was a very informative article and a nice summation of where the Bok squad is at. Thanks
April 23rd 2010 @ 11:59am
sheek said | April 23rd 2010 @ 11:59am | Report comment
Good stuff Rusty – may all your Boks break a leg!!!!!
April 23rd 2010 @ 12:08pm
super schlooper said | April 23rd 2010 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
some strong mail about mr inglis, mr cronk and mr slater moving to the rebels now. they realise the storm is over and want to stay in melbourne and still earn good $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
April 23rd 2010 @ 3:35pm
PastHisBest said | April 23rd 2010 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
So you keep saying SS. Now rack off.