In a Super season, how are the Aussie teams faring?
By Brett McKay, 27 Apr 2010 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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A month into this year’s Super 14 season, I handed down my report card on the Australian teams. The Reds were a surprise early ratings leader at that time, followed by the Brumbies and Waratahs, who were both promising heaps and delivering moderately less. Then trailed the Force, who were in the middle of what I described as “a casualty list that would give some hospitals a good run”.
So with three weeks of the regular season and only a touch over a month of the last ever Super 14 to run, how do those ratings look now?
ACT Brumbies – 6th: 6 Wins, 4 Losses, 3 Bonus Points (last report: 6th, 3W 1L 0BPs, B+)
Oh, the horror.
Last report card I christened the Brumbies the Super Rugby equivalent of the St.George/Illawarra Dragons for their shared frustrations of supporters, but with a month to go the current form of the Dragons would be a very welcome addition to the Brumbies’ recent outings.
After the Hurricanes debacle, Andy Friend spoke of the players trying to play too individually; a fairly public spray from a coach. Sadly though, the lesson still hasn’t been learnt.
Against the Waratahs on Saturday night, and despite having the lion’s share of possession and territory stats, the Brumbies took opportunity-squandering to new levels.
Spiro Zavos’ pet hate, meaningless box-kicks from scrumhalves, was as abundant as it was infuriating. Any opportunities to attack – even three-on-two overlaps – were forfeited away in favour of useless, poorly executed nothing kicks to no-one in particular.
Mathematically, the Brumbies may still be in with a chance to make the finals, but it would be a brave pundit to say that would be fair reward for their last month’s rugby. The Brumbies get bumped down to a C, an average rank indicative of recent displays.
NSW Waratahs – 5th: 7W 3L 5BPs (LR: 10th, 2W 2L 1BP, C+/B-)
The Waratahs, as they have done all season, continue to linger up there or thereabouts. They rode the waves of media raptures after big wins over the Lions and Cheetahs, but then were quickly pegged back after a near-loss to the Force and defeat by the Crusaders.
While they still might be confusing fans with the various types of game plans they employ, the Waratahs are proving to be annoyingly effective. If their goal for 2010 was to play adaptive rugby, then you have to give them nothing but full credit, because they continue to feature well up the Super 14 table by continually changing their game based on who they’re opposing.
It mightn’t be pretty at times – Saturday night comes back to mind – but they’re taking the “play what’s in front of you” mantra to the extreme.
It was pleasing to see Berrick Barnes lead the ‘Tahs around with his effective kicking game against the Brumbies; no doubt it will be important for the Wallabies during the Tri-Nations. It’s difficult, too, to ignore the impressive form of loose forwards Dave Dennis and Ben Mowen, or lock Kane Douglas. All of them are young players with massive futures.
As much as this pains me, I have to upgrade the Waratahs to an A. It’s easy, fun even, to bag them at times, but it’s impossible to ignore a team that wins by making the most of their opportunities.
Queensland Reds – 4th: 7W 3L 6BPs (LR: 7th, 2W 2L 2BPs, A-)
The form of the Reds has been irresistible since the first report card, and calls for Queensland domination of the Wallabies are only going to get louder as they get closer to the finals.
The Sydney Morning Herald’s Australian team of the week after week 10 was just the Reds starting XV of that week, though it should be added the Waratahs had the bye. (Mind you, that hasn’t stopped the SMH picking Waratahs in the past.)
A week after triumphing over the Bulls in what has been described as one of the best games of Super rugby in years – to the point that a bullish ARU boss John O’Neill is intending to send a copy of the game to delegates ahead of the next big IRB summit in May – the Reds have now shown the competition they can win in the tight stuff too.
Their defensive effort in the last 25 minutes to hold onto their narrow lead over the Stormers was super impressive, and had Ewan McKenzie all over it.
Everything the Stormers threw at the Reds in the last quarter was repelled with intent and determination.
Moreover, they can still conjure a spectacular try, with Quade Cooper’s kick to the corner for a flying Will Chambers taking the young centre back to his days when the Melbourne Storm had the best backline money could buy.
The Reds are everyone’s favourite team. Even New South Welshmen are doing the unthinkable, and jumping on board a rapidly expanding bandwagon.
Better yet, Queenslanders themselves are back behind the Reds too, with a second successive bumper crowd cheering them home last Friday night.
There was a bit of disagreement with the mark I handed out in the last report card, but I bet there’s no argument about a richly deserved A+ now.
Western Force – 12th: 3W 7L 2BPs (LR: 14th, 0W 3L 0BPs, D)
Since starting the season in the worst possible form, with a string of losses and the aforementioned injury list, the Force have started creeping up the table in the back-half of the season.
Fuelled by key players returning from injury, the Force has relished their self-appointed “spoiler” role by accounting for the Stormers, giving both the Bulls and Waratahs a decent scare, and last Friday night’s hard-fought win over the Crusaders.
They’ll finish their season with three games in South Africa, and with their opponents all in the bottom half of the ladder, they could well sneak further up the table with a series of wins.
Whilst their season was essentially over before it ever got the chance to build, all is not lost for the Force in 2010.
The calibre of their young players coming through has been a highlight, and it’s fair to say we’ll see a lot more of Ben Whittaker, local product Justin Turner, Brumby-on-loan and line-break specialist Nathan Charles, and Luke Jones (albeit for the Melbourne Rebels next year).
The Force get a well-earned upgrade to C+ for this alone.
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Tones said | April 27th 2010 @ 7:46am | Report comment
Wouldn’t it be great to see a Tahs/Reds Final.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 8:13am | Report comment
You certainly couldn’t rule it out Tones, but I wouldn’t quite put the house on it either…
I think it’s going to difficult to not see one of the Bulls or Stormers win through, and who knows how the Crusaders might fare in South Africa. And we can’t forget the Blues run home either, but you do wonder if they’re too far back now.
Howi said | April 27th 2010 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
I don’t think it would be so good. I already rate Qld above NSW, especially after last weeks tahs v brumbies “showdown”.
Would love to see the Reds lift up the trophy after beating Bulls or Stormers again, or Crusaders. They’ve already beaten these teams, but to do it in the final would be great.
Sam D said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:35pm | Report comment
Would the Waratahs show up?
BennO said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:15am | Report comment
As a bit of a pedant, I don’t think the Reds deserve an A+ after they lost to the Sharks, A or A- I reckon.
But you got me thinking about the Wallabies. On balance, a Cooper-Barnes combination would give the Wallabies attacking flare with a solid tactical kicking game but I wonder if those two can work together effectively. They seem to have such conflicting styles and never managed to work together really well at the Reds, really well of course being A- to A+ standard as the their respective teams are performing now. I hope they can work together well because hopefully they’ll both be around until at least 2015 but I’m not necessarily convinced yet.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:29am | Report comment
BennO, you’re just wanting to dis-prove my “I bet there’s no argument now” comment, aren’t you!?! I’ll stand by both ranks for the Reds, they were an A- before, and are playing better again, so there’s only one way for them go in my opinion.
I agree with your comments on Barnes though, and I think a Genia-Cooper-Barnes combo is as likely as it is needed. Giteau, despite being a bit of a lone hand in the last two or three weeks, has been disappointing, and it’s hard to see him forcing his way into the 1st XV. Any arguments based on his goal-kicking don’t pay enough credit to Coopers..
BennO said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Yeah, sorry about that. Couldn’t help it. They are playing better than earlier in the season but gees, if only they’d held on against the Sharks – a game there to be won.
I actually haven’t watched a Brumbies game this season, only the Reds, but from what I’ve read on these pages I can’t see how we would need Giteau in the side except on the bench. But I wrote somewhere yesterday I think he’ll be picked for a while based on the speed with which Deans seems to change his teams.
TommyM said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:41pm | Report comment
You haven’t missed much mate
Ed said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Please don’t encourage barnes! He is a handbrake at 12. He has no general attacking skills, all he can do is pass and kick well. Which is fantastic for a flyhalf, which he should be.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
so Ed, let’s move him to 10. I’d take a Barnes-Cooper combo as easily as I’d take Cooper-Barnes. Truth is, I think Barnes is much more adaptable than you give him credit for. For the Tahs, it’s obvious to me that Barnes adapts to 12 much better than Halagahu does, hence their early-season switch. But in truth, Barnes is currently playing a classic 10′s game while wearing 12..
Peter K said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
no Barnes is not a great option taker. Cooper has shown he is at S14 level. Must play Cooper at 10.
jiggles said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:02pm | Report comment
Brett, The Barnes-Cooper Combo didn’t really work at the reds….
Justin said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:18am | Report comment
I’ll say it again – the 2 playmakers Deans wants is not the answer. It is over-rated. He had Carter/Mauger which was two players at the height of their powers. Mauger would kill Barnes in nearly every facet of the game.
We need to go back to a running 12 not a kicking robot who is so overrated.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:16am | Report comment
not sure Justin, having watched the Brumbies play the 10-12 system for most of the year, the last two weeks with Giteau and Tyrone Smith has been a big step backwards. The running 12 just doesn’t provide enough any more, there needs to be more creativity (or at least passing) from inside centre..
Justin said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Brett – I dont mean just a hit up merchant. Yes they have to be able to pass etc but I think the key role should be gain-line attack and some strong defence. Otherwise it can be easy for the defence to pick off the strike players of 13 and 15 hitting the line.
I agree that the Brumbies have not looked good. Smtih has been pretty dam ordinary since coming in, missing tackle and kicking poorly. He has shown why he is well down the pecking order. Gits as we know is not a 10.
Look at the Reds – Cooper/Fa’ainga works brilliantly. NSW – Hangs/Barnes works terribly.
Jiggles said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:38am | Report comment
what about A. Faingaa? he is a running 12! and on form should be given a wallabies look in!
Justin said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Yes I have mentioned AF for the past few weeks as a bolter. I like his style…
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Justin/Jiggles, I thought of Anthony Faingaa just as I hit Add Comment, but in truth, he’s also played a bit of 10 in his junior days, and so he does have that creative element to his game. He’s become the perfrect foil for Cooper too.
The Smith/Carter/Tatupu type 12 is what I’m thinking of I guess, in the comment above.
Truth be told, I still think one of the better 12s in Australia in recent years was Gene Fairbanks, but unfortunately he’s been forced overseas. He played that gain-line attack-strong defence game perfectly. And from what I understand, he got a polite “thanks, but no thanks” when making enquires about the Rebels. Such a shame…
Jiggles said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
you are right about AFs creative element. Some of his offloads after he has made a half break this year have been sublime. I would rather see this in the back line of the wallabies then Barnes who, let’s be frank here, can’t really bust a tackle like Faingaa. Cooper is more than the equal of Barnes in most aspects of the game bar defence, but even that is on the up this year.
As the reds have shown this year, cooper puts doubt in the oppositions mind, then Faingaa capitalises by running straight and hard at the half hole that has opened up and always looks to keep the play moving with an offload. The Wallabies would be much better suited with this combo, but I just don’t thing deans will do it, safety first I suppose…
True Tah said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:57am | Report comment
I thought Fairbanks was playing for Easts in Shuite Shield on Saturday?
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
TT, I didn’t realise he was back in Australia, that’s great to hear if that’s the case…
JF said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Randwick
http://www.rugby.com.au/news/aru_general/shute_shield_-_round_three_preview,137933.html/news/latest/section/21893
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
interesting he played outside centre JF…
Rugbywits said | April 27th 2010 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Maybe Adam Ashley-Cooper in number 12. He can quite clearly run the ball. He can pass fairly well judging by his work at halfback a few times in the first half against the Tahs (quite clearly a desperate call for help by a winger not getting enough ball, and when he does, scoring a disallowed try).
Then we could leave 15 to Hynes who wont kick it away as much as AAC has been taught to at 15 for some reason.
That would work for me.
King of the Gorganites said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:18am | Report comment
I believe the Tahs iwll drop to a B+. they continue to disappoint.
Hopefully the Reds can keep it going. its exactly what Australian rugby needed. Its just ashame they are not from sydney.
If the Force can sneak another win or two i think they can move up to a B-. they have showed a lot of heart and have toppled teams above them.
Hopefully cery few brumbies make in into the Wallabies squad.
Brett, how was the Roarers meet up on Saturday? i saw loges interview Robbie Deans at a subbies function. he was very good. some interestin g comments. Loges asked Robbiethat he had to name three players who were nto involved in the wallaby squad last year. he dimplomatically avoided answering 3 names, however, he did mention Rod Davies, and not others, which i thought was intersting. i expect to see Rod later in the year.
BennO said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:57am | Report comment
What!?!?!? It’s great they are not from sydney!!
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:30am | Report comment
King, it’s fair to say the gathering didn’t go as well as planned or even hoped. I did manage to find Roarer Grimace, and we spoke for about ten minutes while we both finished a sorrow-drowning beverage, but that was it. I even trotted out the infamous Roar t-shirt in my photo!! Admittedly, the location probably wasn’t ideal in the end, but nevermind, we tried.
Next time then!!
King of the Gorganites said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:52am | Report comment
It was worth a try. Loges asked whether there were any roar readers in the audience. there was a hand or two go up, but there also were probably a few closet roarers like myself.
it would probably take a few gatherings to get people to come along. some people may find it a bit hard to come out from behind there online alias.
you may be right about the location. one of my big problems about stadium australia is that there is nothing to do after the game. if you hang around to long it means taxis are impossible to get and trains come less frequently. that may have lead to some people feeling they had to leave straight after the game.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:51am | Report comment
it definitely was Kingof, and I’m sure it’ll happen again. I suspect an SFS game might be a better option though, if the Tah Bar is still being set up in the SCG indoor nets as it was last time I was there for a game.
Rickety Knees said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
G’day Brett,
Don’t know if I would give the Tahs an A just yet. Jeez they are frustrating to watch (though you must have just about no hair left supporting “Real”). Winning against the Brumbies without Tatafu, Robinson and Horne was a good effort that deserves acknowledging. What also needs to be acknowledged is the dream run the Tahs have had with Refs this season -but how long can this run last?
Truth is that finals football is won through defence and conservative tactics (ie kick, kick and more f@#*ig kicking) which may produce the results but will do nothing to entertain. No doubt Waugh is looking to finish up with an S14 title and will want to take the safest route to achieve this ie field position and more field position. The problem is that I don’t believe that those tactics will defeat either the Bulls or the Stormers. It would be a gamble but IMHO the Tahs should be starting to play the style of football that will defeat the Saffer sides ie the Reds have shown the way in defeating both.
As I have said previously and it does pain me still to do so but go the Reds!
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:46am | Report comment
Rickety, thank goodness for the invention of post-match rum, is all I can say about the last couple of weeks for those of us in the yellow caps….
I give the Tahs plenty of credit, and I think their game the other night will be indicative of how they approach the finals. Barnes kicked for the corners a lot, but they didn’t always put it out, which is a similar tactic the Reds used against the Bulls. They basically played safety-first rugby, which isn’t what 40,000 people wanted to see, but it was what had to be done. I think it was Jameswm yesterday or Sunday who mention the surface was like an ice rink, and I said to our friends just as the rain started before kick-off that we could kiss the open game goodbye.
Like I said, it’s not pretty, but it is effective. Infuriatingly, annoyingly, bloody effective!!
JK said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Takes a Brumbie supporter to give the Tah’s credit, cheers Brett, you wanna convert ? of course if you did you couldn’t continue to give them credit!
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:59am | Report comment
JK, thanks for the ..um, offer, but I think I’ll politely decline. Besides, I couldn’t support a team playing in highlighter blue….
mudskipper said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:54am | Report comment
Brett don’t hand in your yellow cap just yet… With 3 challenging games and 2011 still showing promise… stay strong
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:58am | Report comment
no danger of that Muddie, but the rum intake may vary up or down as the occasion dictates
I’d be more than happy to see three really good wins to finish the season, at least then the team would have made vast improvements over the last couple of weeks..
Harry said | April 27th 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
I’d actually upgrade the Force who I thought produced their best ever performance to record a great win on Friday night, they also won in NZ and beat the Stormers.
Pocock has returned from injury and on Friday night matched it with the best openside flanker of the last decade, and with Brown and Hodgson formed a very impressive backrow. Sharpe has led the forwards well and young players like MaCalum (sp sorry), Hockings, Cowan, Whittaker and Charles have all shown they belong at top quality S14 level.
katzilla said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Even if all 4 teams were to lose every game from here on in, it would be an improvement on last season.
With my team not being in the running anymore (unless a lightning bolt hits 2-3 of the top teams) i wouldnt mind seeing a finals series without a NZ team. Something different for sure and i said it might happen about 4 rounds in.
The Bulls deserve to be there simply on continued dominance, the Stormers and Reds are the best looking teams in the comp.
The 4th will most likely go to the Tahs, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they get tripped by the Canes (who i reckon will also cost the Reds a home semi) and then have the rug pulled out by the Blues.
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:35am | Report comment
Katz, the ‘Canes could take spoiling to new levels couldn’t they, but both NSW and Qld qill need to account for them to be serious contenders. I said up above that the Blues are still an outside chance with their draw, and I’ll be interested to see how the Crusaders-Bulls-Stormers love triangle sorts itself out…
Hombre said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:44am | Report comment
This weekend’s game between the Brumbies and Reds will be interesting on another level as well … if the Brumbies drag down the quality of the contest to the depths we saw last weekend in Sydney and considering some of the other dire “derby” games this year – do we have a pointer to what the the new S15 package might look like ?
everyone seems to be wetting themselves over this great new dawn we’re going to have next year – but on the whole the games involving 2 aussie teams over the last few seasons has thrown up a fair amount of dross … will the excitment levels and quality of what’s occurred in Brisbane over the last 2 weeks go missing next year and have an unforeseen negative impact on rugby here
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Hombre, it’s like you’re reading my notes for next week’s column….
BennO said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:15am | Report comment
It doesn’t look good does it?
Troy said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Well lets just hope the Rebels play more of an attacking style ala Reds as opposed to the Tahs, that at least would give us three teams to watch…
Spencer said | April 27th 2010 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
The derby matches involving the Reds have been good to watch.
The Reds lost to the Tahs 30-28 before they realized how good they are. I said to a mate at the time that the only reason they lost was because they hadn’t learnt how to win. They have now!
The Reds ran rampant over the Force (Gary..please don’t roll out your “it was the Force B team”…every team has their injuries).
So we are left with the dirge delivered in matches involving the Brumbies and Tahs (against each other, and the Force). For a few weeks it was fun to laugh at the ennui delivered by the Tahs, but now it has become unacceptable for Rugby as a sport.
I loved the comment about the Tahs v Brumbies match “it was like watching England V England”. Not quite as good as the headline following England’s draw with Scotland in the Six Nations this year ‘”England and Scotland Share the Misery”, which would have been fitting for the TAHS v Brumbies if Alfi Mafi had the nous to get himself replaced when he broke his leg. It was clear from a play 3-4 minutes prior that he was seriously hurt. Either he is extremely selfish or numb in the top 6 inches.
Good article Brett, although I cannot agree with rating the Tahs “A”. Phil Waugh (isn’t he the head coach?), and his bag boy “Hickery Dickery Doc” have a responsibility to the game and the Waratah fans. After reading “The Roar” it is clear that most right thinking Tahs supporters would rather see the Reds win the S14 than the Tahs. I would rather see anyone win the S14 than the Tahs playing numpty-ball!
Jez said | April 27th 2010 @ 5:48pm | Report comment
Fair cop on Alfi Mafi…
How does running on a broken leg qualify as selfish in any sense whatsoever?
Jack Petro said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:46pm | Report comment
“.. it is clear that most right thinking Tahs supporters would rather see the Reds win the S14 than the Tahs” … pigs arse … if they do, they belong north of the border; then again, next season they’d probably move to Mexico
ohtani's jacket said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Brett,
Do you think Deans needs to get rid of some of the Brumbies/Waratahs influence in the Wallabies? If he picks too many Reds/Force players, are you worried that the Wallabies will be too inexperienced at Test level?
Brett McKay said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:14am | Report comment
OJ, that’s quite the conundrum, isn’t it. A lack of experience certainly hasn’t hurt the Reds this year, but then as we know Test and Tri-Nations rugby is (if you’ll pardon the pun) a whole new ball game. No doubt Robbie Deans will have to play the cards carefully though, and someone else today on The Roar has already posed the form/balance question nicely.
In truth, I think he’ll probably have a few bets each way. I’d imagine the Fiji/Englan/Ireland Tests in June might be used as reward for form and finge players, and then we might see something along the line of normal programmin resuming for the TNs. I wouldn’t pick Giteau on current form for eg, but then how could you really leave him out? It’s a tough one, for sure…
Jiggles said | April 27th 2010 @ 11:21am | Report comment
Sorry OJ I might through my 2cents in here as well.
I think some alot of the Waratahs/Brumbies attitude has to be left behind in the S14 if the wallabies are any chance this year.
Also before the Stormers game last weekend I would have been weary of saying that maybe the reds players are not ready for test rugby, as everyone is well aware there is a massive difference in the intensity etc.
However after seeing the stormers performance I think why not give a few of the young blokes a go in the June tests and see how they perform. What’s the worst that could happen? I know they will give 110% which is more that can be said for some incumbent “stars”…
ohtani's jacket said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Perhaps Deans can use his bench more, bringing on Reds/Force players in the final quarter.
The Cooper/Giteau situation reminds me of the Mehrtens/Spencer debacle in ’98. I’d drop Giteau from the 22 and tell him to earn a recall, but is the domestic rugby in Australia strong enough for him to earn back his place? If you play him at 12, will he accept less touches? Giteau is a ball in hand player which is why he likes playing 10.
sheek said | April 27th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Brett,
1. QLD – would walk over broken glass to watch them play (figuratively speaking, of course!).
2. NSW – crap. No sense of adventure. Soft opposition bullies.
3. ACT – shadow of former self. Sad.
4. WA – trying hard, but lack overall class.
Gary said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
Were have you been sheek? Hiding in NSW and pretending their is no Rugby anywhere else? The Force have beaten two of the top sides in the past three weeks and gave both the Bulls and the Tahs a decent run for their money BEFORE the first string players returned from injury.
I think if the Tahs and Brumbies matches were held now the Force would cream both of them. Only the Reds would give them a serious fight and what a match that would be! On CURRENT form certainly worth more than a C+.
Gary
sheek said | April 27th 2010 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Gary,
I’m actually very supportive of the Force. I am aware of their recent achievements. Nevertheless, they are 11th on the ladder. I believe my comments reflect all of this.
ThelmaWrites said | April 28th 2010 @ 12:46am | Report comment
Gary
I agree about the Force. Their game against the Crusaders was sensational. The margin for the Force would have been bigger had Sheehan and Hill not missed 4 penalty kicks.
What caught my attention was how they had structured their rucks against the Crusaders. As opposed to how their rucks were In the earlier match against the Stormers, where they had committed few players to the ruck, who were sometimes slow to arrive.. So it was a bit hard going then.
Perhaps because of the Crusaders’ reputation for flooding the rucks, eveyrtime a Force player went to ground, at least two Force players would arrive quickly to form a ruck over the tackled player, sometimes to be joined by more. On and on in their pick-and-drive. Sometimes a line of Force players would stand behind the ruck, perhaps to keep the offisde line (behind the hindmost foot) as far away from the Crusaders’ defensive line as possible.
Yeah, that was interesting.