Memo to the IRB: this is how to fix rugby
By Spiro Zavos, 6 May 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Matt Giteau of Australia, right, is tackled during the rugby union international match between England and Australia. AP Photo/Matt Dunham
On May 13-14, the IRB community – coaches, referees and administrators (but no journalists, unfortunately) – will meet in Dublin to discuss “the playing of Rugby.” 117 of the IRB’s member unions have given an opportunity to present individual and collective insights which have been collated into a survey to help the in-depth discussion of five key areas.
* the tackle/ruck
* the scrum (collapses and resets)
* excess kicking
* physicality of the Game
* the law-making process
Before making some specific proposals, both short term and long term, I would make the point that the rugby this year, except for the dismal Waratahs, has been forthright and entertaining.
In a wider context, though, we have to accept that we do not have the ‘correct’ laws of rugby yet, and the clever and complex nature of the game suggests that the laws of rugby, like the taxation laws, will always need to be revised from time to time.
Danie Craven, arguably the most knowledgeable man on the laws of the game who ever lived, once told me that the laws of rugby are wrong. “How do we know this?”, he asked. And he answered his own question this way: “Until we can write the laws down on a single sheet of paper, like soccer, we know what we have aren’t the correct laws.”
Since the laws of rugby were first drawn up in 1860s, there have been about seven major revisions. These revisions have involved such fundamental aspects like the number of players on the field and the points allocation for tries, penalties, conversions and field goals, to lesser matters, such as whether the corner post is part of the field of play or not.
The last attempt to redraw the laws of rugby resulted in the controversial ELVs, which attempted to do what Craven suggested and simplify the codification of the game.
The 30 or so infringements at the tackle breakdown area, for instance, were reduced to three. But the diehard British unions, which have resisted every change put forward since the 1890s, virtually killed the ELVs off.
Most of the ELVs, sooner or later, will be incorporated into the game.
But what the IRB learned, or should learn, from this episode is that a philosophic change involving an acknowledgment by the British unions that rugby is a running, passing game played as far as possible on the feet, must be achieved before the correct laws of rugby are found.
Now to the issues of the moment:
1. The tackle/ruck.
The tweak that SANZAR introduced this year of insisting that the tackled player be allowed to play the ball before any other player, defender or attacker, can play it has worked well.
We need referees, though, to be consistent on this, especially near the try line where the defence tends to hold on for dear life.
And we need referees to be as vigilant of attacking players coming in from the side to control the tackled ball area as they are on the defenders.
2. The scrum (collapses and resets).
I have advocated for some time that there should only be three calls from the referees: “Crouch – Pause – Pack.”
I had originally suggested Scrum rather than Engage to avoid a double-syllable hit-word. But a writer to The Roar made the valid point that the three consonants in SCRum worked to make it a double-syllable word. Hence Pack.
The referee should also have his hands on the back of the props and propel them forward with the call of the word ‘Pack!’
Halfbacks who delay their feed should be penalised.
Long term, I believe that consideration will have to be given to rugby being a 14-man game. The NZRU proposed this to the IRB in 1939, but other matters intervened and the proposal was dropped.
The logic for a 14-man game is that the players are much bigger than they were in the past and, therefore, the field is much smaller. One man less would provide more space for the running game to be played.
You would have 7 forwards and 7 backs in the 14-man game. The scrum would pack down in a 2-3-3 formation, the formation that New Zealand rugby used very successfully from 1900s to 1929 with the famous 2-3-2 diamond scrum.
3. Excess kicking.
Graham Henry has put forward the idea that marks should be allowed on any part of the field, and not just inside the 22. I am ancient, admittedly, but I played under this law and watched many Tests with its application and it certainly reduced the amount of kicking aimlessly down field.
So bring the mark anywhere on the field back into the law book.
I believe, too, that greater protection is needed for the catcher. The South African teams, especially, have perfected the dark art of taking out the catcher while the jumper appears to be trying to catch the ball.
4. Physicality of the game.
The way to address over-physicality is to encourage running rugby. Nothing tires the Bulls more than having to chase after slick-passing, clever-stepping speedy backs and forwards.
So there should be time-out for kicks at goal.
The one minute allowance for kicks at goal gives teams with big forwards a rest and reduces the actual playing time of a match too drastically. Also, the clock should be stopped from the time a scrum is called until the ball is played from a scrum.
I reckon these changes would result in about 15 minutes more, at least, of actual playing time. With this extra time, the big thugs would become tired and the little geniuses would come into their own.
5. There should be serious consideration given, too, to making conversions and penalty kicks worth 2 points. And drop goals 1 point.
The logic here is that drop goals should really be used to break a tie. They shouldn’t be encouraged, as they are now, as a way of piling up points.
There will come a time in rugby, too, when place kicks will be given away. I believe that in the early days of Australian Rules Football the place kick was used to score points.
Rugby needs to follow the AFL on this.
If all kicks at goal were drop kicks, as they are in Sevens Rugby, time would be saved, but a skill – drop kicking rather than place kicking – retained.
Remember, it wasn’t so long ago when teams used to place kick kick-offs.
6. Extend the use-it or lose-it principle to balls lying at the back of a ruck. The use-it or lose-it rule was one of the great philosophic advances in rugby. Having the ball sit at the feet of the forwards for what seems to be an eternity is hostile to the entertainment value of rugby and to the game as a passing and running artifact.
The recent Six Nations had the second lowest try-count (44 in 15 matches) in its history. The aim of the IRB conference, hopefully, is to get the British union to understand that this is not good enough for a sport that wants to have a mass appeal.
Hopefully, then, at least the decision will be made to embrace the Southern Hemisphere way of refereeing at the breakdown and, just as importantly, the Southern Hemisphere concept that there should be more rugby and less football in the rugby football code.
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May 6th 2010 @ 10:10am
Wilbur said | May 6th 2010 @ 10:10am | Report comment
“The scrum would pack down in a 2-3-3 formation” – How is this a 7 man scrum???
May 6th 2010 @ 10:16am
Cattledog said | May 6th 2010 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Yep, some good points Spiro. Lets look at reducing the penalty and drop goal to 2 and 1 respectively, but increase the conversion from a try to 3. The dynamics will change considerably.
Additionally, I also get frustrated with the idea of a ball sitting at the back of a ruck for sometimes an inordinate amount of time. Soon as it’s there, ref starts the 3.2.1 count and if it’s still there, they lose it. This also gives the attacking team a bit of a hurry up to get themselves organised quicker. Will make for a better and fairer contest.
May 6th 2010 @ 11:31am
Ben C said | May 6th 2010 @ 11:31am | Report comment
In a 3-2-2 configuration, I shudder to think where the back-rowers place their heads.
While some of the suggestions are interesting, I feel the ruck/breakdown is the biggest problem in rugby at the moment. If that gets sorted out, then I think many of the other problems would become much less of an issue. I have spruiked in the past (also ThelmaWrites as well from memory) the suggestion that no players is allowed off their feet at the ruck, so players have to bind and drive while standing or crouching which allows a contest for the ball. Currently, attacking players flop over the top of the ruck to prevent the opposition getting to the ball which refs seem to allow on the theory the attacking teams should have some priority in securing the ball but defenders are penalised for doing so. Keep every on their feet and the halfback can only pick up the ball when his forwards have driven over the ball and cleared it. The contest may help draw in more forwards, spreading the attacking and defensive lines to prevent congestion which obviates the need to remove a player and so on.
May 6th 2010 @ 6:37pm
Vented Relief said | May 6th 2010 @ 6:37pm | Report comment
Haha… the backrowers shove their heads fair up the second rowers clackers!! I’m not sure what position I’d prefer to play…. for once i think it would be best to be a prop!
May 6th 2010 @ 11:31am
soapit said | May 6th 2010 @ 11:31am | Report comment
how long is it since we’ve seen a game won by multiple drop goals? don’t think it’s a problem. maybe make em worth two if taken from in the 22 and four if from over halfway. simpler just to leave it the way it is though.
i think people get carried away with this “continual contest for possession” stuff. get past it , youve gotta get stability in the ruck to allow any decent attack to occur (halfback clear the ball cleanly and some forwards identify the ruck is stable and get out to support the next phase). its just the way it is and this mantra that people have taken up in the last few years is too restrictive.
I stress its only if your good enough. if you’ve got no support your going to turn it over and if your support is to few or too weak then they will be cleaned out. anyway there is a potential contest in all rucks. its just if its set up properly with support the defending team chooses not to contest that particular battle as they would almost definitely lose and waste their time and energy.
the balance is right at the moment in s14 i reckon (or pretty close at least).
finally, definitely time off for shots at goal, not sure about scrums. my current proposal i been toting everywhere on here is to fine them a percentage of their wage if they collapse too often.
May 6th 2010 @ 3:37pm
mitzter said | May 6th 2010 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
Have to disagree with you soapit.
Continual contest has to be the mantra otherwise it is rugby league. I personally love counter rucks so much more than 7+ phase play.
Rugby is a mix of the wrestle and the run and you have to keep both
BTW i also HATE when referees preempt who has won a ruck eg. “leave it blue, red’s ball” Why? why is it red’s ball? why can’t i come through the gate and past the ball?? hmm?
May 7th 2010 @ 10:00am
soapit said | May 7th 2010 @ 10:00am | Report comment
i think he means just means hands off blue. they could still come through the gate and ruck properly and get the ball if they were good enough, it’s just very hard (near impossible) if the rucks set up well.
7+ phase play doesnt happen now without quality support otherwise turnover. all i’m saying is that when people chant continual possession is seems to be as an excuse to not give any benefit to the holder of the football in the tackle. like i said there is still technically a contest available at a well set up ruck. just not one that youre a good chance of winning. i don’t mind the mantra so long as people are realistic about expecting a continual even handed contest at every second of the game. let the tackled player place the ball. or get rid of lifting and calls in the lineouts and (to a ludicrous extreme) outlaw passing to a team mate. team with the ball needs to have some advantages.
would you really rather watch 7+ continous counter rucks then phase play? you have to be able to secure possession at some point otherwise you’ll get more counter rucking than phases. not really a recipe for a good watch (for me, interested to know if you would dig this tho)
May 7th 2010 @ 4:29pm
mitzter said | May 7th 2010 @ 4:29pm | Report comment
i understand your point. Sorry if i misinterpreted
7+ counter rucks in a row would be shocking but i’m sure the forwards would now be all over the place and a try would be scored in broken play
May 7th 2010 @ 4:52pm
Rugbywits said | May 7th 2010 @ 4:52pm | Report comment
In Australia we have a choice between watching League and Rugby. In America they have Ice Hockey, one of the fastest games in the world, with incredible contest for possession, but way more people watch NFL.
Contest for the ball is important, but in the right way.
I understand the counter-rucking rule. In fact its what makes rugby great, contest for possession. The interpretationss that have allowed the offence an advantage at the breakdown are only a short term fix.
We need real rucking again.
But as soon as someone says “real rucking” people think of stomping. What I’m thinking of is the fact that NEITHER TEAM was allowed to seal the ball, dive on it, or go at it with hand when there was more than one person there. Thats what a ruck is. It is winning the ball with your feet.
One of the best moments I ever experienced was playing a rep game for Western Sydney against Easts on a very muddy pitch while it was raining hard. At that age for some reason all the refs were more vigilant with ‘hands off’ than professional ones. because of the weather rucks were vital. At one point I think there was a ruck where each team had about 5-6 players committed to winning possession. Im pleased to say NO ONE was stomped and my team actually moved the ball about 10m down the field on the ground by pushing their team backwards and off the ball.
Having said that, on a fast dry pitch its just as easy to have 2 forwards step over the ball and the halfback pick up the ball quickly and sweep it out to the backs. At which point the forwards had better get there quick otherwise the other team will quickly step over the ball and win it back. That is contest for possession – rucking.
Sorry I rant about that, but really it’s not that hard. Its called “hands off” when there are 2 or more people involved.
As for the changing of the points, I think 6 points for a try should be considered or 1 for a field goal. But really we promote contest for the ball and ref’s keep people onside then it shouldn’t matter a whole lot.
May 6th 2010 @ 12:06pm
sixo_clock said | May 6th 2010 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
I think it should always be borne in mind that Rugby Union is a game for all shapes and sizes, it is inclusive in that sense. Any attempts to speed it up where nuggety round front-rowers and towering locks will struggle to keep up is detrimental to the game. They need the odd pause or we end up where League is now with realistically only one size.
A lot of rules and pain could be avoided by outlawing all ball contact with the boot except (a) penalty and free kicks and scrums (b) a deliberate kick forward if the ball is being held by the kicker. Breakdowns would then become a fairly quick transition phase as players will arrive with no impediment to gaining quick possession and resuming play. This will then send the message to players that the breakdown is to be avoided. Consequently the ball will be off-loaded more often before the tackle and that going off your feet means you are out of play. Same result but safer.
May 7th 2010 @ 5:26am
mitzter said | May 7th 2010 @ 5:26am | Report comment
huh? i don’t think contact with the feet is what is killing the ruck (its all the hands, no one uses their foot) or maybe i’ve misinterpreted you
May 7th 2010 @ 10:08am
soapit said | May 7th 2010 @ 10:08am | Report comment
yeah mate this ones a bit from left field so you might have to expand on those impacts you predicted there.
May 7th 2010 @ 8:08pm
sixo_clock said | May 7th 2010 @ 8:08pm | Report comment
True, I could have been clearer. It is still in the laws (no 16) that the ruck it is where players try to keep or win possession with their feet, and as the ruck used to be possibly the most dangerous aspect of our game and the cause of many injuries so attempts have been made to clean it up, ie make it safer. Now that the refs insist that all those who go to ground regain their feet before resuming play we can expand on those interpretations and sanction the use of the boot at the ruck so those arriving can quickly use their hands to win possession. Therefore we protect the players from the studs and get a quicker more skilful game.
May 6th 2010 @ 12:38pm
John said | May 6th 2010 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
Back in the day (ah the memories) the scrums just came together and no pushing allowed until the ball was in.
Elsewhere in this site it says “Get rid of the “hit” “. Imo, that’s what causes a lot of the need to reset – one team trying to get the better of the other before the ball goes in.
Get rid of the drop-goal, it’s an admission that “we don’t know what to do to get by the opposition, so we’ll take the easy way out”.
It is a running game after all
May 7th 2010 @ 5:28am
mitzter said | May 7th 2010 @ 5:28am | Report comment
yep get rid of the hit – “damn, didn’t quite get the hit i wanted that time, oh well i’ll just collapse then”
May 6th 2010 @ 12:52pm
Sean said | May 6th 2010 @ 12:52pm | Report comment
Spiro, good to see your obsession with disarming South African rugby lives on.
Let’s see: Reducing points allocations for penalties and drop kicks, removing the place kick altogether, reducing physicality in rugby, speeding up the game to negate the “big thugs”, protection for catchers so those nasty South Africans can’t win the ball back…
Why don’t we just make dark green jerseys illegal too?
Phil Waugh predicted at the beginning of the season that the South African teams would struggle with the correct application of the tackle law and the increased pace of the game – he’s looking pretty stupid now, hey?
Sorry Spiro, it doesn’t matter what law changes you make, rugby will always be a highly physical game where good big players will dominate good small players most of the time, where territory is dominated by the CORRECT execution of the boot and human ingenuity will always find a way of getting around new laws/applications.
May 6th 2010 @ 6:22pm
steve said | May 6th 2010 @ 6:22pm | Report comment
Amen! strange thing I only discovered this site through Spiro labelling all South Africans as racist thugs! Personally we like the physicality of rugby and to rob us would mean I would rather throuw my lot in with the NH unions than watch the pretty fancy rugby Spiro wants! What would rugby be without the thugs in the game, Bakkies, Borthwick, Bismark( watching Bismark mock punch O’Drisscoll and O’Drisscoll sh@t himself was magical), Chabal, Thorn, O’connell.
Something I suppose Spiro should look at is why Australia hasn’t preformed so far. It is because they lack a genuine thug in their side, their forwards are soft(technically good at scumming and Line outs) and are never in your face. It is because of the thugs that the reds are successful this year. Adam Burne and Van Humphries haven’t taken a step back this entire year(except against the Sharks). They weren’t available (well van Humphries might have been) last week and look what happened they lost. Your back line can be as flash as you like but if don’t win it up front then the backs will never get the ball.
May 7th 2010 @ 2:37am
MattyP said | May 7th 2010 @ 2:37am | Report comment
Too much truth in what you say Steve – Australia hasn’t been the same since they (prematurely) dumped Owen Finnegan. Haven’t had a proper hard man since, and as a result, the results speak for themselves – a laughing stock forward pack. Every team needs a thug/goon/fixer. (Bismark is a nutcase, mind you – scary prospect for other forwards, let alone a wee centre.) Victor M isn’t the same player without Bakkies around.
May 7th 2010 @ 4:50pm
Rusty said | May 7th 2010 @ 4:50pm | Report comment
Victor actually doesnt like the rough stuff and leaves that side to Bakkies. It was part of the reason he came back from France ‘too violent” apparently
May 9th 2010 @ 8:26pm
sixo_clock said | May 9th 2010 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
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May 6th 2010 @ 12:58pm
Burgs said | May 6th 2010 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Personally I think any discussion about what is wrong with scrums and how they can/should be fixed should be left to those who have played there at the Provincial and International levels as inherent in almost any commentary from a Back is they don’t really like them, understand them or want them in the code.
When the pretty petals start taking advice on the intricacies of a goosestep or cut-out pass from the pigs, then those at the coal face might start taking seriously the opinions of those who don’t want to understand the finer arts of what makes this sport of us great.
There is so much going on and so many variables in that blob of testosterone that there are no easy answers and often more problems than solution have arisen from new strategies. You only have to look at footage of the rapidly formed, highly efficient scrums in the 70′s and 80′s to see how fiddling with it all has achieved little.
There’s already no genuine hooking, let the Back orientated “experts” have their way and we will have de-powered Scrums and eight 105kg, 186cm Loosies running around and learning to count to five before you know it.
“Attractive Rugby” doesn’t have to mean running Rugby, some of the best matches you will see are low scoring, grinding affairs with rolling mauls, multiple phases and true scrum battles of strength.
Stop trying to turn Rugby into Sevens, League or American Football!
May 7th 2010 @ 10:15am
soapit said | May 7th 2010 @ 10:15am | Report comment
wouldnt be much of a website if we left all comments to state and national reps tho.
i think making players professional (and the power and fitness increase that goes with it) has probably had quite an impact on how scrums are now mate, not so much fiddling with the rules.
May 6th 2010 @ 1:06pm
Mike G said | May 6th 2010 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
This might sound odd, but I kinda like the idea that rugby is a more complicated game with various rules, & requires an intelligent gameplan to win. But I guess it’s how the IRB etc want to play it out…Do they go for total world domination & simplify the rules (for mass appeal), or are they content with being a large niche sport??? I suspect there’s a lot of us who would lean toward the latter…
May 7th 2010 @ 5:37am
mitzter said | May 7th 2010 @ 5:37am | Report comment
have to sort of agree. I hate the story spiro always says about “we have the perfect rules when they can be written on one piece of paper”. There are lots of complicated, popular games! And being complicated allows all these styles to be played – otherwise we just ban things (like spiro’s hatred of the maul(although to be fair i hate the guy at the back moving around too but i don’t want the whole maul removed))
May 6th 2010 @ 1:37pm
Choclit_bear said | May 6th 2010 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
There is a surprise Spiro punting for changes to the game that will suit the way Australia likes to play Rugby “Union”. Its all well and good having a go at the northern hemisphere nations about their apparent dinosaur mentality regarding how the game should evolve, but i have to say if people actually bothered to remember what the game is supposed to be about ( little, fast and slippery guys playing alongside big,slow and plodding guys) then you would realize that doing away with some of the ELV’s actually maintained the balance which was in danger of slipping towards the afore mentioned little, fast ,slippery guys. To round off my point here are some points i think are worth mentioning:
Kicking is not the problem, aimless kicking is. What Spiro refers to as the Dark art perfected by south african teams is I feel simply that these teams know that kicking is not just a means to relieve pressure or restart the game (ala the blues and especially the hurricanes) its also an effective attacking weapon.
A lot of people will tell you they dont watch rugby to see little guys running fast in acres of space to score tries, they watch for the physical confrontation, personally i agree if i wanna watch a guy run fast thats what Usain Bolt is for.