Are the Crusaders selective about recruiting Islanders?
By Spiro Zavos, 30 May 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Kahn Fotuali'i for the Crusaders during the match between The Western Force and the Crusaders in Perth on Friday, April 23, 2010. (AAP Image/Tony McDonough)
Andy Haden, the great All Blacks secondrower and general stirrer in rugby matters for a couple of decades, has created a firestorm controversy in New Zealand by claiming that the Crusaders, New Zealand’s most successful Super Rugby franchise, have a policy of imposing a quota on players with a Pacific Island background.
Last week Haden was on a panel with other former All Blacks Chris Laidlaw and Kevin Putt discussing the issue of the ‘browning of the All Blacks.’
Haden claimed the Crusaders had a deliberate policy of restricting the number of Polynesian and Maori players imported into their ranks: ‘Once they’ve recruited three, that’s it. That’s their ceiling. Three darkies … no more … And it’s worked.’
Is this correct?
We’ll pass over the unfortunate use of the word ‘darkies’ and concentrate on the issue of a quota on Maori and Pacific Islander players. The first thing is that there has clearly been no quota on Maori players. In some years there have been more than 10 Maori players in the Crusaders squad. This season there are six Maori players (Tim Bateman, Thomas Waldrom, Kade Poki, Jonathan Poff, Zac Guilford and Isaac Ross), and – what do you know? – three players with a Pacific Islanders background (Kahn Fotuali’i, Robert Fruen and Ti’i Paulo).
The list of Crusaders since 1996 does show that there has never been more than three players with a Pacific Island background in the Crusaders squad.
What does this prove? Nothing in fact. The majority of players in New Zealand with a Pacific Island background, with most of them born in New Zealand, come from Auckland and Wellington. As a consequence the Blues and the Hurricanes have many players, far more than three a season, who have a Pacific Island background.
Let’s probe a bit deeper, though, into this issue. The topic that created the controversy arose out of some comments in a recently published book, Someone Stole My Game (Hodder Moa) written by Chris Laidlaw.
In a chapter entitled, ‘Is Brown the New Black?’ Laidlaw wrote about taking an American friend to see a Hurricanes-Crusaders match.
The friend knew nothing about rugby but he was observant enough to notice, as he told Laidlaw, ‘the smart guys in red beat the dumb guysin yellow.’ The friend went onto observe that the Hurricanes were predominantly Polynesian and the Crusaders were overwhelmingly white. ‘The two things are obviously connected,’ he concluded.
Laidlaw’s comment on this in his book was that it wasn’t a matter of race but of the culture of the Crusaders who ‘so often have a habit of making everybody they play look dumb.’
He then went on to observe that when John Mitchell, a notoriously dictatorial coach, became coach of the All Blacks, he selected an almost Polynesian-free starting lineup, playing 13 Crusaders in one early All Blacks side.
Laidlaw argued that this was not a ‘racist’ selection policy but a calculated attempt ‘to eliminate the instinctive and potentially wayard element from his All Blacks team … Mitchell appeared to be opting for reliability over instinctive brilliance.’
Laidlaw, besides being one of rugby’s great halfbacks, was a Rhodes Scholar, a diplomat as Ambassador to Zimbabwe, MP, head of the NZ WWF and Race Relations Conciliator and now a host of a Philip Adams-type radio program on Sundays.
He coached Fiji to nearly defeat an All Blacks side, and Oxford University to defeat the Springboks. He has studied issues of race since his days at Otago University where he did a M.A. in geography on land issues in Fiji.
He is a renaissance man on rugby and politics. His take on the issue race and rugby, which his book and Haden’s comments have revived, is that notions of prejudice are too easily and often raised when objectivity on the matter is needed. He is totally opposed, he writes, to the notion from ‘a chorus of moronic voices shouting “discrimination!” when the issue of Polynesian players might in some way be different from European.’
Laidlaw argues that it is New Zealand’s ‘point of difference … and the single most important reason why we win more than other countries .. We have the best of both worlds and it is an advantage we should be rather more grateful for.’
I would argue from all of this, therefore, that Haden is probably right when he claims that the Crusaders have a quota on recruiting players of a Pacific Islander background. He is wrong about a Maori quota.
But his critics, which extend up to the Prime Minister, John Key, are also wrong when they accuse him of racism.
The reasoning behind the Crusaders quota (?) has nothing to do with racism or discrimination. It has everything to do with getting the balance of the side right. In Laidlaw’s words, this balance has been created by joining into a team ‘a bunch of white, hardened, pragmatic Pakeha forwards … marshalled by a dictatorial Pakeha halfback or first five-eights and a backline of lightning fast, side-stepping Polynesians …’
When Haden’s critics come to their senses and see that the general thrust of what he says is correct (I’ve been told this same quota story many times in the past from reliable sources), they might like to discuss something else he said on the panel which, in my view, is far more explosive and interesting but has been somehow overlooked.
The problem with the Blues franchise, Haden insists, is that it is ‘divided along religious lines.’ If this is so, why aren’t the relevant authorities getting to grips with this?
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May 30th 2010 @ 1:52am
Seiran said | May 30th 2010 @ 1:52am | Report comment
The NZ Herald website has the below list for the Canterbury Crusader squad members with Maori and Pacific Island heritage.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10648090
Although I also read on another website that Carter is not Maori and is Italian heritage. Another website claimed Carter was a ‘closet Maori’.
I’m sure our Kiwi Roarers can set this straight.
2001
Greg Feek, Maori
Daryl Gibson, Maori
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Norm Maxwell, Maori
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Afato So’oalo, Samoa
Dallas Seymour, Maori
Marika Vunibaka, Fiji
2002
Daniel Carter, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Johnny Leo’o, Samoa
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Joe Maddock, Maori
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Marika Vunibaka, Fiji
Bryce Williams, Maori
2003
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Daniel Carter, Maori
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Marika Vunibaka, Fiji
Joe Maddock, Maori
Bryce Williams, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori.
2004
Dan Carter, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Anthony Koonwaiyou, Samoa
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Johnny Leo’o, Samoa
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Marika Vunibaka, Fiji
Scott Waldrom, Maori
2005
Daniel Carter, Maori
Rico Gear, Maori
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Anthony Koonwaiyou, Samoa
Vilimoni Delasau, Fiji
2006
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Rico Gear, Maori
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Daniel Carter, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Johnny Leo’o, Samoa
2007
Tim Bateman, Maori
Stephen Brett, Maori
Daniel Carter, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Rico Gear, Maori
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Johnny Leo’o, Samoa
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Ben May, Maori
Tusi Pisi, Samoa
Caleb Ralph, Maori
Isaac Ross, Maori
Rua Tipoki, Maori
2008
Tim Bateman, Maori
Stephen Brett, Maori
Daniel Carter, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Leon MacDonald, Maori
Kade Poki, Maori
Caleb Ralph, Maori
2009
Bronson Murray, Maori
Corey Flynn, Maori
Ross Filipo, Maori
Isaac Ross, Maori
Thomas Waldrom, Maori
Stephen Brett, Maori
Tim Bateman, Maori
Casey Laulala, Samoa
Kade Poki, Maori
Leon MacDonald, Maori
2010
Corey Flynn, Maori
Isaac Ross, Maori
Thomas Waldrom, Maori
Daniel Carter, Maori
Tim Bateman, Maori
Kade Poki, Maori
Zac Guildford, Maori
May 30th 2010 @ 1:57am
Lee said | May 30th 2010 @ 1:57am | Report comment
I heard Haden specified that he wasn’t including Maori in his crusaders quotas theory
May 30th 2010 @ 2:06am
Seiran said | May 30th 2010 @ 2:06am | Report comment
He did. I’m guessing he omitted the Maori’s because it would have blown his racism theory out of the water.
May 30th 2010 @ 5:23am
Jerry said | May 30th 2010 @ 5:23am | Report comment
Ross Filipo is part Samoan part Maori. For Haden’s purposes you’d have to include him as a ‘darkie’.
May 30th 2010 @ 7:56am
Jerry said | May 30th 2010 @ 7:56am | Report comment
That list doesn’t look comprehensive to me – for a start they’ve not included Paulo, Fruean and Fotuali’i in this year’s squad. Fotuali’i has been a part of the squad since 08, and Paulo since about 06 (though he’s been injured a fair bit so hasn’t been a regular).
Can’t really be arsed going back through the history of Crusaders squads, but I can think of Kevin Senio and Mose Tuiali’i as recent PI players not included in that list. So basically you can pick out at least 3 years in recent times when they’ve had more than 3 PI players
06 – Senio, Tuiali’i, Filipo, Laulala, Leo’o, Pisi
07 – Senio, Tuiali’i, Filipo, Laulala
08 – Fotuali’i, Tuiali’i, Filipo, Laulala
I dunno if they do have a policy of restricting PI numbers, but it’s obviously not as hard and fast as Haden makes out.
May 31st 2010 @ 6:55pm
Shane said | May 31st 2010 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
To the ’07 list you can also add Johnny Leo’o, whilst Kahn Fotuali’i joined the Crusaders wider training group in 07
May 31st 2010 @ 2:10am
bennalong said | May 31st 2010 @ 2:10am | Report comment
It pays not to call yourself white these days apparently, even if you look like it
Half these guys look as though they haven’t any Maori blood!
Is it racism?
May 31st 2010 @ 6:57pm
Shane said | May 31st 2010 @ 6:57pm | Report comment
If it allows you to play for the NZ Maori team, then you are very happy to find any Maori in your bloodline
May 30th 2010 @ 5:03am
Viscount Crouchback said | May 30th 2010 @ 5:03am | Report comment
Terrific article, Spiro. Nice to see a journalist actually confronting this issue head-on rather than skirting around it by mouthing pious platitudes. Laidlaw’s analysis makes a great deal of sense.
May 30th 2010 @ 5:57am
Altona Rebel said | May 30th 2010 @ 5:57am | Report comment
You need to remember that most NZ teams reflect the Population of the area i.e. Auckland blues around 19 Islander Due to the higher Islander population, and the Southern teams less due to Smaller Islander population. So how can it be racist if Team is a true reflection of the area???
May 30th 2010 @ 7:41am
ed said | May 30th 2010 @ 7:41am | Report comment
He didn’t include maori’s in his quota because virtually everyone in nz can qualify to be maori these days.
The thing is there a virtually no pure blood maoris left.
Although I don’t necessarilly agree with his theory you can’t discredit it due to him not including maori’s.
May 30th 2010 @ 8:25am
Rob said | May 30th 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Just by coincidence I saw some footage of a NZ / Aust. test in the late 70′s and I was struck by the different performance of the haka then and today and also of the “colour” of the make up of the NZ side. Predominantly white and with very little of the theatrics of the haka today.
It led me to look at the PI influence in League and Union in Aust today as opposed to 30 years ago and also to look at the make up of AFL. I don’t know the answers. It might just be a result of money available for PI people from a relatively poor background if they come to a more prosperous country like Aust. I just don’t know. If it is just migration why doesn’t there seem to be many PI players in AFL? Any other Roarers thoughts?
May 30th 2010 @ 10:54am
Jerry said | May 30th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Probably a social thing – rugby is big in the islands, so immigrant communities will gravitate towards it. League is similar enough that it will be a viable option but AFL is too far removed, I guess.
May 30th 2010 @ 11:01am
SamSport said | May 30th 2010 @ 11:01am | Report comment
The All Blacks only started doing the haka properly after Buck Shelford joined the team in the 1980s. Also, most pacific immigration to NZ has occurred during/after the 1970s.
May 30th 2010 @ 10:00pm
True Tah said | May 30th 2010 @ 10:00pm | Report comment
Somehow Stu Wilson doing the haka wouldnt really intimidate the opposition.
May 30th 2010 @ 9:07am
cookie said | May 30th 2010 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Haden sounds like another knob trying to get attention, pretty sad really.
I’m not aware of any club specifically excluding islanders rather i think a number of sydney clubs at some point in time have specifically tried to recruit islanders because they are good rugby players.
May 30th 2010 @ 10:16am
Peter said | May 30th 2010 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Are there any New Zealanders who do not have Maori blood? Maybe the newly arrived South African immigrants?
May 30th 2010 @ 10:53am
Jerry said | May 30th 2010 @ 10:53am | Report comment
Not sure if you’re serious, but the vast majority don’t. About 15% of the population identifies themselves as Maori.
May 30th 2010 @ 11:09am
SamSport said | May 30th 2010 @ 11:09am | Report comment
This is such a load of rubbish. To say that NZ coaches don’t regard PI players as smart enough to play rugby is stupid and simply being said to get some attention. Has anyone here actually been to Christchurch? There are far fewer PI and Maori than in the North Island. The list posted by Seiran above (and printed in the Herald), isn’t even comprehensive and proves the Crusaders aren’t restricting the number of PI/Maori players. Added to that Haden still hasn’t revealed his so called source, and a number of much more credible people have stated clearly no such policy exists – including a pretty influential player agent. I can’t believe this is taken seriously because Laidlaw sat with an American who “knew nothing about rugby” and said something about the Crusaders being whiter than the Hurricanes. Maybe Laidlaw is just trying to sell his book?
May 30th 2010 @ 11:36am
SamSport said | May 30th 2010 @ 11:36am | Report comment
Some may be interested in Richard Loe’s opinion on the whole thing in the Herald today. He said “It’s so far wrong, it’s not even funny.” – http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10648461
May 30th 2010 @ 11:35am
Nathan said | May 30th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
Poor old Crusaders. 7 times champion and now being accused of discrimination, poaching etc. When you’re up, your’e up and when your’e down…well, you know the rest. Forget trials, forget drafts, maybe they should just select players based on their IQ.
May 30th 2010 @ 12:51pm
Peter K said | May 30th 2010 @ 12:51pm | Report comment
I think the most interesting part is Laidlaws analysis and views on racism, rugby, and using the best advantages of each race.
More discussion and focus on this rather than absurd racist discrimination allegations against Crusaders.