A look at cricket’s all-time Test XIs
By sheek, 31 May 2010 The Crowd is a Roar Guru
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A well-known cricket blog site has spent the past year compiling all-time Test XIs from the major cricketing nations. So far, they have selected teams from England, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and most recently, Pakistan.
Only the West Indies and India remain of the ‘big 8′. In each case, a different jury of 9-10 qualified judges select each team from a list of nominees, which is then published, along with the Readers XI choice.
I have found the jury’s selections to be generally accurate, and closer to the money than the reader’s choices, which tend to favour modern players, and lack an understanding of players from the past. Here are the teams so far:
ENGLAND (published August 2009)
Jack Hobbs, Len Hutton, Wally Hammond, Ken Barrington, Kevin Pietersen, Ian Botham, Alan Knott(k), Harold Larwood, Fred Trueman, Derek Underwood, Sydney Barnes, Denis Compton(12th).
The readers poll varied in two places with David Gower replacing Barrington and Jim Laker replacing Underwood.
Personally, I would pick Laker ahead of Underwood, and swap Compton with Pietersen. However, the huge shock was the non-selection of WG Grace even among the nominees. He dominated his era so profoundly, he must be in the XI and as captain. I would have him at no.5 in place of Compton/Pietersen.
AUSTRALIA (published July 2009)
Victor Trumper, Arthur Morris, Don Bradman, Greg Chappell, Allan Border, Keith Miller, Adam Gilchrist(k), Shane Warne, Dennis Lillee, Bill O’Reilly, Glenn McGrath, Ricky Ponting(12th).
The readers poll differed with four batting positions, an indication of the tremendous depth of Australian batting. Openers Matt Hayden and Bill Ponsford replaced Trumper and Morris, while both Ponting and Steve Waugh were included at the expense of Chappell and Border.
Any quibbles I have can only been seen as minor, and I am happy with any of the various combos that might be selected. I wouldn’t mind Ray Lindwall in for perhaps McGrath, but how could you omit McGrath anyway?
SOUTH AFRICA (published December 2009)
Barry Richards, Graeme Smith, Jaco Kallis, Graeme Pollock, Dudley Nourse, Aubrey Faulkner, Mike Procter, Shaun Pollock, John Waite(K), Hugh Tayfield, Allan Donald, Eddie Barlow(12th).
The readers poll differed with AB de Villiers, Mark Boucher and Dale Steyn replacing Nourse, Waite and Faulkner respectively.
I much prefer the jury’s selection which I believe is right on the money. Ironic that for a country that didn’t produce too many great spinners, SA have the legendary offie Tayfield and all-rounder leggie Faulkner in their all-time XI. Awesome batting and bowling depth!
NEW ZEALAND (published October 2009)
Glenn Turner, Stewie Dempster, Bert Sutcliffe, Martin Crowe, Martin Donnelly, John R Reid, Richard Hadlee, Dan Vettori, Ian Smith(k), Shane Bond, Jack Cowie, Chris Cairns(12th).
The readers poll had John Wright, Steve Fleming, Brendon McCullum and Cairns in the team in place of Dempster, Donnelly, Smith and Reid.
Clearly, many readers are unaware and unappreciative of the great qualities of batsmen Dempster and Donnelly, far and away two of the best players produced by NZ despite limited opportunities.
I reckon the jury was right on the money with their selections!
PAKISTAN (published May 2010)
Saeed Anwar, Hanif Mohammed, Zaheer Abbas, Javed Miandad, Inzamum-Ul-Haq, Imran khan, Rashid Latif(K), Wasim Akram, Fazal Mahmood, Abdul Qadir, Waqar Younis. I nominate Mohammed Yousef as 12th man.
The readers had Wasim Bari and Shoaib Akhtar in for Rashid and Fazal. Once again, the jury has demonstrated a superior cricketing knowledge to the readers. Wasim Bari was a better all-round keeper to Rashid Latif, but the latter got the nod for superior batting ability.
SRI LANKA (published April 2010)
Sanath Jayasuriya, Marvan Atapattu, Kumar Sangakkara(k), Aravinda de Silva, Mahela Jayawardene, Arjuna Ranatunga, Chaminda Vaas, Ashanta de Mel, Somachandra de Silva, Rumesh Ratnayake, Muttiah Muralitharan. I nominate Thilan Samaraweera as 12th man.
The readers had two variations among the bowlers, paceman Lasith Malinga replacing de Mel and spinner Aajantha Mendis replacing de Silva.
Again the jury has pretty well got it right. However, I am uncomfortable with Sangakkara occupying the critical no.3 batting spot and keeping wickets as well.
I would bring in Prasanna Jayawardene as keeper/batsman, but I am stumped (sorry about the pun) as to whose expense! Perhaps either bowler paceman de Mel or leggie de Silva.
One final thing, no captains have been named. So I have offered the following selections:
England – WG Grace(c), Hammond(vc). However, with Grace not nominated, Hammond captain with Hutton his deputy.
Australia – Bradman(c), Miller(vc). Although Miller never captained Australia.
South Africa – Procter(c), Richards(vc). I acknowledge most would select Smith as captain.
New Zealand – Reid(c), Crowe(vc).
Pakistan – Imran(c), Hanif(vc).
Sri Lanka – Ranatunga(c), Jayawardene(vc).
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May 31st 2010 @ 7:00am
Hombre said | May 31st 2010 @ 7:00am | Report comment
No mention whatsoever of Clive Rice for SA – strange to say the least
May 31st 2010 @ 7:14am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 7:14am | Report comment
Hombre,
Nothing strange about it.
Unfortunately, neither Rice, nor Vince van der Bilj, nor Garth le Roux were among SA’s nominations. Why? Because none of that magnificent trio ever played an official test match.
Rice is the equal of Shaun Pollock as an all-rounder, but behind Procter. Van der Bijl is right up there alongside Donald as a paceman, although an entirely different type. While le Roux is only marginally behind Donald as an out & out fast bowler.
All 3 were outstanding cricketers, & if not worthy of a top SA XI spot, then certainly a 2nd or 3rd XI all-time possie.
June 1st 2010 @ 6:15am
Hombre said | June 1st 2010 @ 6:15am | Report comment
Whilst I understand that – surely given SA’s unique situation – some form of leeway could have been used when constructing their side … for example say Richards never got to play a test the option of leaving him out, based on that fact alone, would be madness
June 1st 2010 @ 6:24pm
sheek said | June 1st 2010 @ 6:24pm | Report comment
Hombre,
It’s true SA need to be seen in a different light when selecting their al-time XIs. Fortunately, despite playing just 4 & 7 tests respectively, Richards & Procter did enough to demonstrate they belonged in the test arena.
They also performed exceptionally well in county cricket for over a decade where they played with & against many other test players under the same conditions & were often year in, year out, better than most.
Rice also had a long & successful country career, but no official tests. Personally, I don’t agree with unofficial tests not being recognised. The WSC supertests for example, were as tough as any official test, & often tougher.
There is a practice of double standards by administrators. Way back in 1929/30, England sent two different touring teams at the same to New Zealand & West Indies. Each tour comprised 4 tests which are recognised as being official. Yet the WSC supertests, of infinitely superior standard, aren’t even recognised as first class matches!
But I understand not recognising WSC as first class matches is the revenge of the officials. One day all will be made good. There are also world XI matches (early 70s), commonwealth XI matches (50s), rebel XI matches (80s), AIF XI matches (40s), that all exhibited great players & great deeds.
Indeed, in my spare time I compile composite test records combining actual test records with other unofficial test matches. I might make a post out of it one day.
Here’s a vignette. In official tests Gary Sobers played 93 tests, averaging in the high 50s, hitting 26 centuries. He also captured 234 test wickets. In 10 unofficial world XI matches he hit 3 centuries, again averaging in the high 50s. He also captured 29 wickets.
This leads to some interesting stats. Firstly, it takes him past the 100 internationals (103) & 250 wickets (263). His 29 centuries equals that of Bradman. But here’s the really intriguing bit – Sobers scored his 29 centuries in 103 internationals; Bradman his 29 centuries in 52 tests.
Sobers took twice a many tests to score the same number of centuries as Bradman, & Sobers is regarded as the second greatest cricketer after Bradman!!! Obviously Bradman was out of this world.
You might be interested to know that with the Saffies – I have added their world XI appearances (1970-72), International Wanderers matches (1976), WSC supertests (1977-79) & rebel tests (1982-89) to any official tests they played. The results are interesting without always giving a complete picture.
May 31st 2010 @ 7:53am
Vinay Verma said | May 31st 2010 @ 7:53am | Report comment
Sheek, I am going to attempt 2 all time world XI’s. One comprising readings and conversations and the other the people I have seen live.
A. Len Hutton, Arthur Morris,Bradman,Hammond,Barry Richards,Keith Miller,Grout,Bill O Reilly,Laker,Larwood, Spofforth
Bradman captains and the one’s omitted probably reflect my limited reading.
B; Gavaskar,Greenidge,Rohan Kanhai,Greg Chappell,Tendulkar,Sobers,Gilchrist,Holding,Warne,Lillee,Andy Roberts.
I deliberated about Viv Richards and Dravid but I saw Kanahai at a very early age and cannot get rid of the impact he had on my impressionable mind. Being a selector is not easy but Hilditch complicates it unnecessarily.
February 12th 2011 @ 8:09pm
Harsh Thakor said | February 12th 2011 @ 8:09pm | Report comment
I particularly share your feelings of the maestro,Rohan Kanhai.I don’t think batting has seen such a creative genius who discovered regions in batting beyond Sir Don Bradman.No batsman had greater prowess or innovative ability and had he done justice to his ability he could have averged over 60 runs.On his day he was better than Sobers and was one of the greatest players of great pace bowling.His centuries in the 3rd test of the 1960-61 series in Australia scored at arun a minute,his 115 for Rest of the World againsnt Australia in 1972 at Perth and his 170 at Scarborough in 1963 were exhibition sof sheer genius.Kanhai averaged 58 runs in match-winning causes and averaged 53 runs at one down,in an era where it was very rare to average over 50.He could also champion a crisis and adapt to the worst wickets .Kanhai would have plundered runs in the modern era with the slower batting -friendly pitches and easier bowling.Like a Mozart or Shakespeare to batting.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:24am
Brett McKay said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:24am | Report comment
Sheek, it says something about both the talent of the retired-again Shane Bond and the endless search in NZ for the next Richard Hadlee, that Bond could be included in the all-time NZ side having played only 18 Tests…
May 31st 2010 @ 8:32am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Yeah Brett,
Sadly for the Kiwis, they don’t have too many options to choose their all-time best from.
The other fast bowling nominations were Dick Motz, Richard Collinge, Ewen Chatfield, Danny Morrison & Chris Martin. Of these, Collinge is clearly the only outstanding candidate & challenger to Bond.
The others were honest trundlers.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:28am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Vinay,
Boob boom re Hilditch!
Looking at your selections raises the interesting point about how much we LIKE a person for his personal qualities, influences our decision to select them.
From conversations with you, I’m presuming your first-hand knowledge of cricket goes back to the late 50s, while mine begins in the late 60s.
I love all the players you have mentioned, but I respectfully suggest there are better candidates. Greenidge’s Hampshire team-mate Barry Richards is the first opener I would pick from the late 60s to the present. Gavasker as his partner.
Sobers & Tendulkar are givens in the middle order. Graeme Pollock & Brian Lara must also be there. Gilly, Warne & Lillee are musts. But the remaining two spots are open. Mind you, Alan Knott was a superior keeper to Gilly from a purist’s point of view.
It is acknowledged that Malcolm Marshall passed his mentors (Roberts, Holding & Joel Garner) to become the greatest Windies paceman of all-time. So he must be there with Imran Khan rounding out the XI as follows: Gavaskar, B.Richards, Lara, G.Pollock, Tendulkar, Sobers, Gilchrist(k), Imran, Warne, Marshall, Lillee.
I nominate Ian Botham 12th man to give the pommies some representation! Imran would be my skipper with Sobers his deputy.
There are so many wonderful players to choose from, impossible to agree 100 percent. The great thing is we can enjoy the wonderful memories they leave us, of all of them…..
Vinay,
Cricinfo hasn’t selected the Indian & Windies all-time XIs as yet? What would be your selections there?
May 31st 2010 @ 8:40am
Vinay Verma said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Top of my head,Sheek….Indian XI ..Gavaskar,Sehwag,Dravid,Tendulkar,Sardesai,CK Nayadu,Dhoni,Kapil Dev,Nissar,Subhas Gupte,Prasanna.( I have not considered Azzharuddin for obvious reasons)
West Indies: Greenidge,Fredricks,Kanhai,George Headley,Worrell(c),Sobers,Dujon,Holding Roberts,,Garner,Marshall.
Sobers to bowl orthodox,chinaman and be the reserve wicket keeper.. In the Windies team everyone has a test fifty so they can all bat.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:33am
Kersi Meher-Homji said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:33am | Report comment
Sheek,
I was going to write something on these lines but you beat me to it. It provided enjoyable reading.
During the “Great Computer Test” between Australia and England to be played simultaneously at Lord’s and in Sydney in 1971, Sir Don Bradman was asked to select the Best post-World War I Australian team (1920 to 1971).
Here is his selection in batting order: Arthur Morris, Bill Ponsford, Don Bradman (captain), Charles Macartney, Neil Harvey, Bob Simpson, Keith Miller, Richie Benaud (vice-capt), Ray Lindwall, Don Tallon (WK) and Bill O’Reilly. 12th man: Alan Davidson.
I am surprised Bradman nominated himself as the captain.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:52am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Kersi,
Bradman didn’t become the greatest batsman in history through any modesty of his own ability!!!
It’s also instructive from his non-selections, his personal feelings towards some players. Victor Trumper was the antithesis in attitude to Bradman. Once Trumper had got his team off to a good start, he was happy to throw his wicket away. This was sacrilegious to Bradman. Trumper obviously belonged to a different era.
Bradman also had a falling out with leg spinner Charlie Grimmett after Bradman came to South Australia in 1935. I don’t think Grimmett hid his opinion that he preferred Vic Richardson (the Chappells’ grandfather) as state & test captain.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:47am
Kersi Meher-Homji said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Vinay, how can you bypass Vijay Merchant, the best opening batsman of his time along with Len Hutton and Arthur Morris, crisis specialist Vijay Hazare and the great all-rounder Vinoo Mankad?
May 31st 2010 @ 8:55am
Vinay Verma said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:55am | Report comment
Kersi,I never said that a selector’s job is easy and it is not possible to please everyone..even a respected and revered colleague and friend like you.
May 31st 2010 @ 9:45am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Vinay,
My Indian all-time XI: V.Merchant(c),S.Gavaskar, R.Dravid, S.Tendulkar, V.Hazare(vc), V.Mankad, M.Dhoni(k), Kapil Dev, A.Kumble, Amar Singh, E.Prasanna.
Backups for touring party: V.Sehwag, L.Amaranth, S.Kirmani(2k), M.Nissar, B.Bedi.
I’ve gone with Kersi on this one, & chosen Merchant because I wanted him as captain. Although ironically, he never led India in an official test. The batting runs deep & nos 6, 7 & 8 can rotate. Kapil & Amar to open the bowling with Hazare first change. Three types of spinners in leggie Kumble, offie Prasanna & left-armer Mankad.
The backup players demonstrrte a 16 man touring party to handle all tests & one-dayers in any country, in any conditions. Couldn’t find any spots for D.Sardesai, M.Amarnath, D.Vengsarkar, P.Umrigar, G.Viswanath, M.Azharuddin, V.Laxman, CK. Nayadu, F.Engineer, J.Srinath, S.Gupte, Harbarjan Singh, B.Chandrasekhar, etc.
May 31st 2010 @ 9:53am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:53am | Report comment
Vinay,
My Windies all-time XI: F.Worrell(c), C.Hunte, G.Headley, B.Lara, V.Richards, G.Sobers(vc), J.Dujon(k), M.Marshall, C.Ambrose, M.Holding, J.Garner.
I have controversially chosen Worrell as opener. He must be captain & he did open several times, & he certainly had the temperament to succeed as opener.
It hurt to omit Gibbs as the lone spinner, but I decided Sobers could handle the spinning duties with his left-arm chinamen. No lack of batting or bowling depth with this team.
The Windies have so much talent to choose from, consider this all-time 2nd XI: G.Greenidge, R.Fredericks, R.Kanhai(vc), E.Weekes, C.Walcott, C.Lloyd(c), R.Jacobs(k), A.Roberts, W.Hall, C.Walsh, L.Gibbs.
May 31st 2010 @ 10:14am
Vinay Verma said | May 31st 2010 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Sheek,I believe Gupte was the equal or better of Warne. I saw him bowl 39 overs as the Windies scored 500 at the Eden Gardens with Kanhai scoring 256 and Sobers 106 not out. He had two googlies,a topspinner and a big turning leggie. And he was accurate. He played like a West Indian and ultimately married a Trinidadian and settled there. Sobers ranks him as one of the best of all time.
Dilip Sardesai was a fearless player of fast bowling and was the prototype for Gavaskar. His on driving was on a par with Greg Chappel and he had a blistering square cut. Prasanna was the master of revolutions.