Verbeek’s shortcomings will cost us Cup glory
By roarlover34, 31 May 2010 roarlover34 is a Roar Pro
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Kaiserslauten, Germany, 12 June 2006. Tim Cahill scores a double and John Aloisi ices the cake with an incredible three goals in the final eight minutes to beat Japan 3-1 in their opening World Cup match.
People are dancing in the street, bosses don’t care if people are late for work and Mel and Kochie are draped in Socceroos scarves. Australia is a nation transformed by the power of football.
Four years on, are we going to see the same scenes of pandemonium?
Probably not, and it’s all because of one man – Pim Verbeek.
Just to make things clear, I am not a person who just recently got into football and doesn’t really know much about it. I have played football all my life, supported Brisbane Roar and up until now followed the Socceroos with great passion.
But enough is enough. Pim Verbeek has been one of the worst coaches to take the reins of the Socceroos in history.
Firstly, let’s focus on his record in charge of the Socceroos. Coached 28, won 16, lost 4, drawn 8, with a win percentage of 57%. At first it sounds quite good, but then it is revealed to be nothing special when compared to other Australian coaches.
Guus Hiddink has a record of 12 games, 7 wins, 2 draws and 3 losses, and a win percentage that is marginally better at 58%. But who were those three losses against?
Brazil, Italy and Uruguay – all teams inside the top 15 when they were played and all World Cup-winning nations.
However, it is unfair to compare Verbeek to the best coach in the world. Let’s compare him to the much maligned Frank Farina. Under Farina, the Socceroos, played 58, won 34, drew 9 and lost 15, with a win percentage of 59%.
Kind of weird isn’t it, that a ‘results is everything’ coach doesn’t have as good a record as a man who had a much more open style of play. Very weird indeed.
A common argument in support of Verbeek is that we are expecting too much quality from the national team as we are comparing them to the world’s best teams. That’s rubbish!
Just a simple comparison with Germany 2006 proves that he isn’t performing. The world cup squad in 2006 was: Schwarzer, Neill, Moore, Cahill, Culina, Popovic, Emerton, Skoko, Viduka, Kewell, Lazaridis, Covic, Grella, Chipperfield, Aloisi, Beauchamp, Thompson, Kalac, Kennedy, Wilkshire, Sterjovski, Milligan, Bresciano.
The World cup squad in 2010 has the same core of players. Yet they simply aren’t performing well. There have been disappointing performances against the Netherlands, Uzbekistan, Bahrain, Indonesia, Iraq, China, Japan, Ghana, Kuwait, South Korea and finally New Zealand.
The disgraceful and completely unwarranted tackles by Cahill and Grella are signs of an Australian team who is stressed and underperforming. The volume of these lousy performances has taken shape in the stands, where there are decreasing attendances.
95,000 witnessed Josip Skoko volley home to capture a very solid performance at the MCG. There was a feeling of expectation going into the Germany 2006.
This year 55,000 people witnessed a violent, god-awful display which left many Aussie football fans worrying.
The fact the Holman was man of the match was a true display of how far Australia has sunk under Verbeek. Which brings me to my next point, player selections.
Where do you start with Pim Verbeek’s player selections. They are a series of hypocritic, blind and utterly brain dead selections.
Firstly, let’s start with the formation, 4-3-3. Sorry Pim, but it just doesn’t suit Australia’s players. The front three in that formation actually means one, strong powerful out and out striker and two quick wingers. Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie are examples of such players. Players we don’t have.
So instead of shifting the formation he put’s Jason Culina there. Sorry Pim but you match the formation around your playing roster not the other way around. If you had Messi and Ronaldo in one team would you say, “sorry, only room for one of you, Ronaldo go warm the bench.”
No. You would choose a way to fit them in the team.
The times that come to mind when Pim changed his formation was when he played a 4-4-2 against Qatar at home on two occasions, with Josh Kennedy and Scott McDonald up front.
The result was an aggregate 7-0, and a handful of assists for McDonald.
So what does Pim do? He never plays that combination again.
And my final note, Brett Holman. Yes he scored last Monday, yippee – that brings an end to a 26-game drought. Yeah, he runs all day. Let’s put the best 11 marathon runners in Australia on the football pitch and watch them run all day.
Verbeek’s player selections are best captured in the Joel Griffiths debacle. I’ll admit he wasn’t exactly a candidate for my 31 man squad. But Verbeek never watched him once, never phoned him once and didn’t even tell him personally that he missed out on the squad.
His only piece of advice to Joel was in 2008 when he said, “You need to work in you defence.”
He’s a striker!
All in all, Australia will fail at South Africa 2010 because of Pim Verbeek and his numerous shortcomings mentioned above.
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May 31st 2010 @ 8:32am
Realfootball said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:32am | Report comment
I am 100% with you. You might also have mentioned that the awful Verbeek’s win record contains a number of games that we should have lost – games, like the Bahrain 1-0 win away, where the team was completely outplayed. If you take these wins out of the equation his percentage would look very ordinary.
By the of this month, Verbeek will be gone, condemned by his ineptitude to the wilds of Morocco. Good riddance to him, and sadly at a least 2 years too late.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:43am
Bay35Pablo said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:43am | Report comment
His substitutions also puzzle most. He seems unwilling or unable to see when he has to change personnel or structure. Which is the real test of a coach in many ways.
The little Dutch boy keeps sticking his finger in the holes in the dyke, thinking that will see him through.
May 31st 2010 @ 8:44am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 8:44am | Report comment
With all due respect, this is a rubbish post.
I have never understood the criticism Verbeek cops. Just because he doesn’t ‘play’ the press like Guus Hiddinck, we all think he’s a sop. Hiddinck was right for the Socceroos in 2006, Verbeek is right for the Socceroos in 2010.
Pim Verbeek runs deep. He certainly runs deeper than much of the criticism directed his way. It’s a smart man who cuts his jib according to his cloth.
Verbeek has settled on a formation & style according to the players at his disposal. Smart. We don’t have brilliant goal scoring forward strikers.
But we do have a number of very good, attacking midfielders. And fast backmen who can counter-attack quickly. We collectively don’t have the one-on-one ball skills of players form other countries, so moving the ball about quickly is essential.
Basically, the strength of our team starts in goal & slowly deteriorates towards the front-end striker. We’re not going to win games with brilliant goals. We’re a team that will progress through team spirit, grit & determination. That’s the Aussie way.
Keep in mind also that 2010 is vastly different from 2006. Back then we celebrating coming in from the cold after 32 years. This time we’re going to the WC back to back. It’s an entirely different mindset.
As for Pim Verbeek, he’s doing a brilliant job…..
May 31st 2010 @ 9:20am
Realfootball said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:20am | Report comment
I could not agree less with your comments on Verbeek. He has not cut his jib according to his cloth; quite the contrary – one of his signature problems is the fact that like all limited coaches he constantly tries to force his players to fit into a system instead of adapting the system to his players. And as Verbeek “running deep”, well, I beg to differ. What I see is a clueless man out of his depth.
As for calling this a “rubbish” post, show some respect. I don’t agree with you about Verbeek, but I don’t open with a cheap insult.
One thing I do know, sheek – you are now comfortably in the minority when it comes to our dull, limited coach, and I would ask this: if Verbeek is indeed the astute coach you maintain he is, why is his next posting youth football in Morocco and why was his previous posting (Korea) terminated after poor results and a revolt by the senior players in the team over his management and tactics?
May 31st 2010 @ 9:28am
AndyRoo said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:28am | Report comment
In regards to changing the formation too fit the players…. I don’t think that means changing the formation to suit Carle and Macdonald. Our best players are our attacking midfielders and Pim plays 3 of them.
May 31st 2010 @ 9:32am
sheek said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:32am | Report comment
Realfootball,
Okay, I’m not an expert on football so maybe you’re right. But the constant sniping against Verbeek amazes me. I still think he’s done a good job in a difficult position. Following Hiddinck was something of a poisoned chalice.
May 31st 2010 @ 9:07am
AndyRoo said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Dislike the Holman bashing, dislike the fact not taking a bad egg who plays in the CSL (can you seriosly rate Griffiths higher than Macdonald) is held against him. Forwards do have to defend now an that’s probably why I disagree with you on both Griffiths and Holman.
I did enjoy the fact you actually used some statistics though which made this post better than most Pim bashing.
Like Bay35Pablo I find Pim’s subtitutions uninspiring.
May 31st 2010 @ 9:31am
Harvey the Scouser said | May 31st 2010 @ 9:31am | Report comment
idda be nice if Pim had the luxury of fitting a formation to 11 quality starters
but he doesn’t have that luxury
May 31st 2010 @ 11:02am
Phil E Buster said | May 31st 2010 @ 11:02am | Report comment
So Pim Verbeek’s win percentage is 1% less than Guus Hiddink?
And the conclusion you therefore reach is that it therefore makes him a terrible manager and Guus ‘the best manager in the world’ (I’m sure Mourinho, Capello, Ferguson and many others would politely beg to differ on that statement). All by virtue of a single percentage point, no less!
But what you fail to mention is that according to your figures Pim Verbeek’s loss percentage is only 14% compared with Guus Hiddink’s 25%
Yes, that means Guus lost 1 in four matches in charge. Compared to Pim Verbeek, Guus was a serial loser!
Australia is never going to achieve real “glory” in comparison to most other teams, however in Pim we have a manager who can produce excellent results, and we should thank him for getting us to the world cup (and Asian Cup, for that matter) regardless of what happens in South Africa.
June 1st 2010 @ 4:05pm
Phutbol said | June 1st 2010 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
Can I just add (and i dont know how many exactly), I’d also hazard a guess that Frank Farina’s win % was padded out by a lot of games against powerhouses like Solomon Islands and American Samoa etc so to compare his stas vs either Guus or Pim’s is a little disingenious too.
June 1st 2010 @ 4:22pm
Phil E Buster said | June 1st 2010 @ 4:22pm | Report comment
Interestingly Farina’s loss percentage was exactly the same as Guus Hiddink’s – 25% or one in four matches played were lost.
May 31st 2010 @ 11:10am
rovers2011 said | May 31st 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
ok sure Verbeek is hardly the coach to take any team to “Cup glory” if by that u mean winning the thing. But lets be realistic, we aren’t the nation to go out and play like that anyway. It would be foolish ! The result against Japan was scintillating but we’re in a very different place now.
He’s been a coach for the times, conservative in nature which is played out in his selections and lack of willingness to try new players or combinations. But its what we needed on the back of our first finals for so long. It got us to SA and thats what counts for me.
Going forward to Qatar next year, and Brasil in 2014, i also hope we go for someone who can take us to another level.
Once we’ve implemented some serious overhauls of our development pathways, and are producing some seriously talented players another decade or more down the track, then we can start thinking about chasing ‘Cup glory’. Until then, enjoy the ride but be a little realistic.
May 31st 2010 @ 11:50am
drew777 said | May 31st 2010 @ 11:50am | Report comment
I read half of this and got fed up. You make assumptions like “Same group of players” in reference to the 2006 WC, when they are a completely different bunch – age, experience, loss of players, new ones, worse depth, poorer in all areas of the filed (losses of dukes, for one). these assumptions are for the most part wrong.
If aus go to round of 16, or even further which is becoming a distinct possibility as Ballack, Essien (who is one of the best aspects of the Ghanains) and Serbia going down to NZ all indicate Aus are in with a good shot to finish top 2 now. As I said, IF we go through then verbeek will have achieved everything he set out to do and Aus will be singing his praises. I am singing them right now.
Verbeek is far from the worst coach, Hiddink was considered the best because he got us to the WC for the first time in 28 yrs or so. I would say the worst in recent history was Graham Arnold. Verbeek got us to our first consecutive WC – an achievement in itself. Lay off him.
May 31st 2010 @ 11:51am
Ben of Phnom Penh said | May 31st 2010 @ 11:51am | Report comment
Pim has to play with the cattle he has, and as far as I’m concerned I feel he is doing a good job. I know many of the fans don’t rate Holman however the people who seem him day in day out do. I’ve seen no comments in relation to his work off the ball, his positioning, how he complements the team as a whole.
There appears to be a fascination with looking at individuals rather than a holistic viewing of the team as a unit. I guess that is the key difference between commentators and coaches.
May 31st 2010 @ 11:57am
Chook said | May 31st 2010 @ 11:57am | Report comment
Hiddink isnt at the world cup this year and Pim is.
We cannot play a attack style of Brazillian football, simpy put we dont not have the squad. He is under no illusions that he hasnt a great squad either. Have a look at his post match New Zealand. It is going to be a tough slog for Australia we cannot bleed goals in the hope that we will win 4-3 there isnt 4 goals in the team that will pla in the World Cup. We have to drag out 1-0, 1-1, 0-0 results.
As far a Pim is concerned he has achieved what the FFA asked him to do. He did it his way, doesnt mean it couldnt fo been done better but we are in the World Cup. I recommend every body take it east sit back an relax if we get through,great! if we dont lesson learned. We have the great fortune of no one expecting any thing from us so the pressure is off.