The AFL bets its expansion future on marketing ploys
By Adrian Musolino, 2 Jun 2010 Adrian Musolino is a Roar Expert
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Israel Folau speaks to the media during a conference announcing that he will switch codes and join Greater Western Sydney AFL club at Blacktown Olympic Park.
Behind the smoke and mirrors of Israel Folau’s defection to the AFL is the simple fact that the Greater Western Sydney franchise (and the AFL?) will reportedly fork out $6 million for four years for a player who hasn’t played a game of competitive Aussie Rules in his life. This is a marketing ploy of the highest order.
After all, it’s an awful lot of money for a speculative prospect and even the AFL and the GWS franchise couldn’t disguise in yesterday’s press conference that the signing of Folau is more about marketing than it is potential.
Let’s put aside the question of potential for the time being anyway, for even GWS and Gold Coast FC won’t know how Folau and Karmichael Hunt will adapt until they are tested in match conditions for their learning curves are steep as they come into the game as total outsiders.
But the money on the table, considering the huge question mark over potential, is excessive and, in my opinion, bordering on the absurd.
When the pay packet of Gary Ablett, Chris Judd and the other greats of the game is overshadowed by a rookie, then the current players have every right to complain about the sum awarded for such a marketing exercise and the AFL’s role in it all.
Brisbane Lions coach Michael Voss cut to the heart of the debate when he said in relation to the $3 million deal Gold Coast FC have with Karmichael Hunt: “I genuinely hope (Hunt) makes it but the fact we’re adjudicating the project on how many articles he gets in the paper as opposed to how many games he plays in the AFL then I don’t get that.”
The fact that this opinion is so widely held, even within the AFL, should be a concern for them, but the fact is they aren’t disguising it.
Andrew Demetriou took the unusual step of writing to teams and players to justify the AFL’s role in this poaching, arguing: “Our development team headed by David Matthews has judged that both players will be invaluable in promoting our game as a viable career option for first choice athletes in Queensland and New South Wales in particular and to communities which currently do not have a strong connection to our game in both states.”
It’s interesting to note that the AFL’s recruitment manager, David Matthews, featured in the GWS press conference yesterday – and again the AFL isn’t hiding its role in all this.
When Matthews defended the recruitment to difficult questions from the Sydney press, he interestingly used the term “we” – another indication of the AFL’s hand in GWS affairs.
We saw this with the exorbitant draft concessions, also.
The AFL is playing an integral role in its expansion franchises; a key role in direction and influence and that should have neutrals and rival teams’ fans concerned. The clubs’ cultures are being manufactured by the code itself – condemning their ability to develop their own culture in their local communities and perpetuating the idea that these clubs are soulless creations manufactured for fiscal considerations only.
The perception of the AFL’s undue influence isn’t going down well in other codes either, which are being targeted by an invading behemoth, and an Australian public who doesn’t appreciate bullies.
Folau, for his part, was hardly convincing when selling his interest in AFL – watching and liking a couple of games and all but acknowledging he has the option to return to rugby league when it’s all said in done is hardly reassuring for prospective GWS fans, and it failed to convince us that this was anything but a marketing ploy.
But will this marketing ploy pay any dividends?
Obviously it is contingent on the ability of Folau and Hunt to adapt and play a meaningful on-field role for their clubs. Having them in the stands won’t do much good.
But the AFL’s strategy of winning over fans through such poaching and the media interest it receives is flawed on two fronts.
Firstly, the notion of poaching star players as a way of winning over fans is a fallacy.
This isn’t motorsport in which we have favourite drivers who we follow as they swap teams and categories around the world.
The NRL, like the AFL, has community and club based support.
Support is built around a lifelong connection with a club, not a player. Players come and go, but it’s the clubs that are loved. It’s why a club like Richmond can still pull 50,000-plus crowds dispute woeful performances and zero star power. It’s the club that matters.
The NRL survived when Wendell Sailor, Lote Tuqiri and co headed to Union, and they survived when Willie Mason, Greg Bird and co disgraced themselves with their off-field behaviours.
It survived – diminished in popularity or not – because at the heart of west Sydney and the code are clubs like Parramatta, Penrith and co.
And their connection to local areas and histories is something the AFL cannot poach and override by signing up some of their brightest stars.
It also assumes that rugby league fans will suddenly convert to Aussie Rules.
But again, fans have grown up with their clubs and codes, which won’t change with the movement of a few stars (not to mention the anti-AFL feeling that still exists in many parts of NSW).
There was no mass movement of fans from the NRL to Union when the ARU was poaching earlier this decade because the fanbases of the relative codes are more ingrained in us than that.
This will only take generations to change – if it can at all – and I fear the AFL is doing more damage by alienating itself from the western Sydney natives with its aggression to their local code, making it harder for them in their long-term goal of winning over future generations to Aussie Rules.
Which leads us to my second point, which is that the notion of poaching star players as a way of giving the code and franchises immediate respect and positive recognition is flawed.
Not all publicity is good publicity, and while the AFL and GWS would have been delighted at the storm the announcement caused in the press (free-to-air networks cutting to live coverage of the presser!), what of the thoughts of the NRL loving population who are GWS’s potential audience?
Is the best way for GWS to endear themselves in the hearts and minds of these people by appearing to be invading conquistadors pillaging clubs of their beloved game (NRL)?
The media in Sydney is helping portray this notion of victimhood, as evidenced by the line of questioning in yesterday’s press conference from the cities press hounds, and the AFL is not helping by its integral role in the poaching and its aggressive overtones through its wads of cash.
The Daily Telegraph screamed “Stunt Man – the AFL’s marketing tool” on their website last night, and that perception of marketing over substance is going to stick.
Clubs are about passion, commitment and grassroots connection, not acts of bluster and players with questionable commitment and hunger for the club, let alone the code.
GWS coach Kevin Sheedy is a master of spin, and he gave one of his greatest performances in yesterday’s presser when detailing how the club will reach out and win over the hearts and minds in the area.
It’s a long-term goal, but even he couldn’t convince us that this ploy will help that development.
The AFL isn’t messing around with GWS, but the approach is flawed.
An initial and fleeting bang for their buck isn’t going to help the empire conquer its final frontier.
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June 2nd 2010 @ 7:22am
James D said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:22am | Report comment
There is no doubt that Folou is 100% a marketing ploy. And it has done its job hasnt it? Newspapers everywhere in QLD and NSW are talking one sport and one sport only.
As much as the leaugies say “No it doesnt matter we are stronger yada yada” The fact is the AFL is the one throwing punches here (and Union and Soccer to an extent also). AFL is putting teams in just about every major population centre in the country, Union has a team in the 5 biggest popluation centres and using the Force as an example Junior numbers have tripled in the past 4 years, they are growing as the AFL will also even in a non traditional environment (like the Force in perth). The NRL on the other hand is in trouble in melbourne (burning 6 million dollars a year doesnt exactly help with a war chest) and only a handful of clubs are making any money in the first place with clubs like cronulla and the warriors really struggling. The NRL isnt going any where but they are getting the $hit kicked out of them.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:27am
punter said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:27am | Report comment
Sydney Swans is also propped up by the AFL & now GWS are in a deficit of 1.2 milion, so you can’t say that the AFL aint burning money in Sydney.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:32am
James D said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:32am | Report comment
True but they AFL have a melbourne system that makes money (180 million war chest) and can support it.
Also the storm burn 6 million a year after winning 3 premierships! and the GWS team are in set up stages they wil make money in time.
June 2nd 2010 @ 10:21am
Baz35 said | June 2nd 2010 @ 10:21am | Report comment
How are the Sydney Swans being propped up by the AFL?
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:39pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
To be fair, they have been propped up by the AFL before, but as Demetriou has publically stated, more should have been done to help them. Despite what Gallop said yesterday about throwing the cap and draft out of whack, the reality is that an expansion team is NOT the same as a suburban Melbourne team, and if the AFL is serious about growing the game, then the bigs bucks have to be spent…so long as its not to the detriment of other clubs. I am a little worried about North Melbourne becuase their supporter base is tiny, but when the new TV deal comes in they should be ok. And if not, Tassie are waiting on standby to preserve the even 18 team competition.
As for the Storm, as James D said, if you are still bleeding 5-10 million a year when you have won premeiership after premiership then something is definitely wrong – and we will see evidence of that in the next few years when the Rebels come in and the Storm slump to mid table with the dis-assembly of their playing roster.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:25am
oikee said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:25am | Report comment
Rugby league is run by muppets, they deserve everything thrown at them by the AFL. One day i will be thanking the AFL for waking up this pathetic culture rugby league created for itself. The people running rugby league are inward thinking, they have no outlook any further than there hip pocket.
The ARL is a absolute disgrace, NSW and QLD rugby league have only one thought, looking after themselves. Its a great day for rugby league, finally we have got kicked, right in the rolls. Its just a shame that the fans have had to suffer this embarressing failure of these clowns running our code. Dont blame the fans, nobody is more loyal than rugby league fans, they put up with these underacheivers year-in, year out. And somehow keep smiling.
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:13am
Albert Ross said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:13am | Report comment
RL has to a great sport. It has survived despite a 100 years + of incompetents, shysters and crooks running the game.
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:48am
James D said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Survived yes… Grown no.
Soccer has grown, AFL has Grown, Rugby has grown, Cricket has grown. League is still in the same place it was 100 years ago.
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:17am
Ken said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Actually Cricket and Rugby haven’t really grown much at all. Cricket is the national game just as it was in 1910 – it’s having a little spurt from 20/20 right now but immediately before this it was in the dumps domestically. Rugby was a dominant sport back then and now it’s a niche. AFL and RL have both grown (100 years ago the top tier was an 8 team inner-Sydney only comp – I think we can safely say they’ve grown) – although the last 20 years has certainly seen AFL grow further.
Remember how easily the shoe could be on the other foot though, a couple of decades ago league was the star. AFL was in a bit of a trough and League was riding high – too high as it turns out attracting too much attention from media companies. Since then League has been re-building while the AFL has made huge ground with some inspired leadership. Things can, and do, change relatively quickly.
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:41pm
James D said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:41pm | Report comment
Ken you cant say one thing and then disprove it in the same sentance.
The game of rugby is growing – more juniors playing it (look at the annual ARU report) and more states playing it. sounds like growth to me.
June 2nd 2010 @ 11:58am
Paul J said | June 2nd 2010 @ 11:58am | Report comment
RL has higher TV ratings now than ever before.
The AFL expansion to 18 teams is fuelled by their last TV deal.
RL expansion and growth will be fuelled by their next TV deal.
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:42pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
Wishfull thinking. Brian Taylor quizzed Paul Kent and Billy last night on the back page as to why the NRL are not expanding into new markets. No one had an answer for him. They are in a difficult position…their new TV deal will only just allow them to pay the players what they are worth, they would have to wait till the next one to allow them to fund expansion (dont forget they tried with the Western Reds and Adelaide Rams) and they failed.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:04pm
Paul J said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
The new NRL deal is tipped by media experts to be around $1 billion. How is that Not going to help expand to central coast & Perth?
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:28pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
Do you honestly think they will double it Paul J?
The AFL will do well to get to $1billion, and they are coming off $780 base (and dont bring up Kerry Packer, because the Seven/Ten didn’t have to bid for it). It was a good investment.
Also, the last NRL deal was for 6 years…1b over 6 years is not the same as 1b over 5 obviously…
Dont forget – the NRl is also as TV friendly as its going to get with prime time GF’s, Monday night football, rolling 6 week fixtures to suit the TV execs etc.) The AFL currently have none of these…but they do have them up their sleve…doubtfull they will use it as they generally like to put the needs of the 600,000 paid up supporters first.
June 2nd 2010 @ 3:22pm
Michael said | June 2nd 2010 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
James P, it’s not about putting needs of supporters first, its because our administration at the NRL fail to realise the value of the game.
With an Independent Commission, this will not happen.
That was one thing that is great about the AFL administration. They are at least proud of their status and want their value. At the NRL, we neglect to mention the value and just cater to News Limited. That will change under an Independent Commission.
As for being TV friendly, Rugby League is a better product to watch on TV with how close to the action you can get, whereas the AFL is better as far as the amount of ad’s you can cram into a game.
We can argue all day about which code is the better value, but the fact is, these are the two leading sports in Australia at the moment, and the AFL recognise that, otherwise they wouldn’t be poaching two players to figurehead their new franchises. They know how strong the NRL is in these areas, but the problem is, they have to respect it, not burn it. If they had just developed their own, I think they would have had a greater affinity within the community. But instead they are throwing money at the problem and just shoving “marquee” players down their throat. The public wont respond to that.
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:02pm
akazie said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:02pm | Report comment
James D
The only code in the last 100 years not to grow is Rugby Union, 100 years ago, Union ruled NSW and QLD.
These days Rugby Union is a clear fourth.
You say Rugby League hasn’t grown, yet 100 years ago, it’s main comp was 8 Sydney sides (like club Union now).
Yet we now have pro teams in Sydney, Wollongong, Newcastle, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Canberra, North QLD, Melbourne and New Zealand, all backed with over 400k junior participants.
Rugby Union on the other hand has lost everyone of its Heartlands to Rugby League, then AFL and now Soccer.
You’re a funny guy and if I didn’t know better, I’d say you were a troll, but I won’t say that.
Btw, for a code like RL that you say hasn’t grown, it must shock you when 1 game of RL can get more people watching it than the whole Aussie S14 season put together, it must also hurt you that that same 1 game of RL had more people watching it than every Bledislo cup game last year that was on FTA.
Which code was it again that hasn’t grown?
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:50am
todd said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:50am | Report comment
I think this a really interesting cross road for the NRL. Clearly David Gallops opinion (see the excerpt from todays SMH) smacks of jealousy and irrelevance as clearly the winner here is the AFL, regardless of what Israel Falou does on the field. He has never frop punted a ball (he’s had 8 kicks in his entire NRL career) and other that chest marking (the easiest skill in Rules) he has no idea. That does not matter however as this is a clever marketing ploy from a cashed up code that is ensuring vialbility for the code through a viable business model and the recovery of TV rights funds to support the game.
Rather that critice “on behalf of AFL clubs” Gallop should be clearing up his own backyard. For him to say “the game is bigger that one player” lacks an understanding of the real issues here: League is not acting as a nursery for both Rules and Rugby and he’s powerless to stem the tide.
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:49am
James D said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:49am | Report comment
Gallop has to wheel out the “We dont care” article every few months it seems
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:27am
Ken said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Of course Gallop’s putting out that line and I’m sure he’s less happy about it than he’s making out. But, all this talk of ‘stemming the tide’ and ithat there is some intrinsic problem in the NRL is pure hyperbole. Each year there are 400 NRL players in 1st grade squads (25 per team), the AFL has purchased 2 players (fringe Australian players certainly) for way, way over the odds to try to promote their 2 new teams. This is not a flood and it’s not going to turn into one, especially since they have no more new teams to promote.
June 2nd 2010 @ 10:25am
Baz35 said | June 2nd 2010 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Exactly right. The threat of australian football to league is at the 8 to 15 YOs not 22 year olds. KH and IF are not going to become the norm
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:43pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Agreed…which is why I dont understand why the Tele keep running scare campaigns. It benefits no one…except GWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:47am
oikee said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:47am | Report comment
David Gallop is now reaping what he sowed, he sold the game for peanuts, and has been backpeddling ever sinse.
He has had no vision whatsoever, if he did, the game would have had a independent commission running.
Look, i could roll out a list of things never to do in a code, Gallop has done everyone of these things, sometimes twice over, he was not happy about getting belted once, he comes back for another slap around the head. He is only haging on now by the teeth of his pants because he knows the white knight is upon him,. Trust me, any code thinking about hiring this guy, tell your leaders, if they do, i will burn the clubhouse to the ground, Cheers, you have been warned.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:51am
chris said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:51am | Report comment
akazie
It’s Teddyboy how di u know.
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:13pm
akazie said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
I pm’d you at an Aussie Forum the other night shhhh.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:53am
chris said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:53am | Report comment
Matt your a twat.
June 2nd 2010 @ 7:53am
mds1970 said | June 2nd 2010 @ 7:53am | Report comment
It’s a marketing ploy, and Folau’s presence as a marquee is hoped to attract crowds to get the new club started – but it won’t work unless he can also make a meaningful on-field contribution. I’m hopeful he can, he is still young and has proved himself as an elite performer in one sport. He has some work to do to learn the finer points of his new game, but time is on his side.
Kevin Sheedy’s comments in the presser were interesting. “We have to develop this club, and we’ll do it our way. Some people won’t like what we do, some will love it.” I’m in the latter category.
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:46pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
Sheedy is a genius. Folau will need to work on field to be successful. Reports state that IF and KH are not the only NRL players to have approached the NRL. Other have tried, and have failed the tests. This tells us 2 important things:
1. NRL players are approaching the AFL (not the other way around)
2. The AFL is not just looking for a marketing ploy…sure they want a marketable guy PLUS someone who can actually play or develop the skills quickly. If they are not up to it, they are cut.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:36pm
JimC said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
If you believe that, you’ll believe anything.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:59pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-converts-on-way-afl/story-e6frf9jf-1225874531114
Here are the first few lines to whet your appetite…Read it and weep:
THE AFL expects more converts from rugby league, and they won’t all play for new teams Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney.
A day after NRL star Israel Folau signed a $4 million deal to join GWS – and the same day former Bronco Karmichael Hunt had his first training session with the Gold Coast – the league confirmed the two big names were not the only NRL players to express interest in a switch to AFL.
“There’s been no shortage of interest,” AFL game development manager Dave Matthews said on SEN radio this morning.
June 2nd 2010 @ 4:23pm
Michael said | June 2nd 2010 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
Read it and weep?…..yeah right…you know how in a previous comment…you said that the journalists manipulate data. And you had your little poofy rant about how the AFL don’t get a fair go in NSW?
You don’t think in a Melbourne Newspaper that they’d say that NRL players are approaching them…and not the other way around.
“There’s been no shortage of Interest”….is this before or after they sat down and said “we can give you at least $1m a season”. It doesn’t suggest that does it? If a club calls up someones manager and says “Hey its Collingwood’s Eddie McGuire here, just wondering if Greg Inglis is available to chat, we are prepared to offer $1m a season if he tests well”. If someone called me up and said “G’day Mick, its your rival boss here, wanna come in and audition and if u go alright we’ll give you $1m”. I’d say, sure i’m interested….
You can spin things both ways, and like you suggested with Roy Masters, I’ll take your Melbourne newspapers and journalists with a grain of salt.
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:18am
Albert Ross said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:18am | Report comment
This Matt bloke would have to be an OFL marketing dept plant. Starts off with posts with no punctuation, spellos then when it’s strategic drops in formatted links and carefully set out tables. And the spellos and poor punctuation disappear.
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:09am
matt said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:09am | Report comment
grammar isnt my strong suit lol, sorry to be a bit “out there” guys, articles like this just annoy the crap out of me, its shock jock in print basiclly.
NRL isnt going to die, not a chance, they will always be the dominant figure in NSW/QLD, just look at the TV figures, AFL hardly rates a mention in those states, big states too, but thats why the AFL is doing everything it can to get a peice of the pie, 6 mill seems like a lot of money and it is, but not when you consider the big pitchure, FWIW IMO israel will be back playing RL whens this contracts up, hunt may be a different story, he’s the one more likely to succeed at Aussie rules, i think he can really make a go of it on feild, sadly, the best case scenario for isreal is that he will be able to play the game but he obviously wont be a star of the comp like he is in the NRL.
June 2nd 2010 @ 1:49pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
The AFL is not trying to dominate NSQ/QLD. I think they are just trying to stengthen their position with 4 stong teams in these states, which will obviously strenghten their position as number 1 nationally. Brisbale Lions have pretty much got there…
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:11pm
Paul J said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
I live in Brisbane and i’ve never seen a Brisbane Lions jersey worn anywhere.
Brisbane Lions TV ratings are poor. Brisbane is still very much a rugby league town.
The Lions are a great example of how far both codes will go with expansion, which is not very. The main goal is just to remain profitable. The Lions recorded a $1.5 million loss last year.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:35pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Like I said Paul J, Brisbane Lions are not number 1 in Brisbane by a long shot…nor do i think they will be (well not in the short term anyway).
But the facts are that this year they are ahead crowd wise of the Broncos, and their TV audiences are actuallly better than the Swans (which I know is not saying much), but not bad for a city of their size.
Like I said, I think the AFL will settle for number 2 in Syd/Bris behind League.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:55pm
akazie said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
The Lions are not ahead of the Broncos this year for crowds, talk about BSing all the time.
34,378 for the Broncos
32,485 for the Lions
The broncos have already played their smaller pulling crowds already against teams like Cronulla and Newcastle who are both struggling below them on the table and the only other team that doesn’t get a great crowd up there left to play is Penrith, yet Penrith is in the top 4 so they should get over 30,000 for them anyway.
June 2nd 2010 @ 3:06pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
Once again akazie…you miss the point….this is not about who is number 1. Its about being stong in their expansion market. Lets just leave it at that
June 2nd 2010 @ 3:08pm
akazie said | June 2nd 2010 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
Well James P, you stated it for gods sake.
June 2nd 2010 @ 4:04pm
Michael said | June 2nd 2010 @ 4:04pm | Report comment
The AFL were already Number 2 in Brisbane and Sydney.
They want to try and take over Number 1 which they will never do.
The Swans are bigger than the Waratahs and Sydney FC, and the Lions are bigger than the Roar and Reds.
They are trying to take on #1 because their massive ego’s cannot tolerate the fact that these two states in the two biggest markets in Australia don’t exactly want to embrace their code wholeheartedly like Victorians do.
They should understand and respect the fact, that like AFL in Victoria, Sydney and Brisbane have been intrenched as Rugby League states for many, many years, and like the Swans and Lions…and the Storm in Victoria, they all have their particular niche to cater for the other codes, but always respect the preference of the #1 code in that state.
That’s obviously not good enough for the AFL so their ego is dictating to try and get #1 in a state where it is not going to happen.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:26pm
JF said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
“The AFL is not trying to dominate NSQ/QLD.”
You are kidding, of course they are, just as Woolies would love to see the back of Coles and Channel 7 would love to see the back of channel 9. If they weren’t trying to dominate, they would use their money to put a team in Tasmania, instead they choose to put teams in RL heartland areas and recruit RL players.
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:32pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
Do you work for the Daily Telegraph?
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:33pm
JF said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
Do you work for Demetriou?
June 2nd 2010 @ 2:35pm
JamesP said | June 2nd 2010 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
I wish! No joke…why wouldn’t you want to work for the market leader…most rpofessionally run league in Australia by far.
Re: tasmania, Demetriou has publicly stated they are next cab off the rank…
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:02pm
JF said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:02pm | Report comment
The most fun would be interpreting new forms foul play, and making up their names, like that heanous of crimes “Rough Conduct” I wonder what the AFL will be suspending players for in 10-20yrs, Boistrous Play? Overly Zealous Commitment?
June 2nd 2010 @ 8:42am
DNB 2010 said | June 2nd 2010 @ 8:42am | Report comment
The support by the AFL in the signing of Folau and Hunt for the two new expansion clubs clearly shows the massive benefit of an independant commission that is running the game…..as Phil “Gus” Gould stated many times over the past year, the NRL and the sport of Rugby League must get off its arse and move forward to establish the Independent Commission to oversee the game as soon as possible. At the moment the sport of Rugby League is fractured and to be frank – a shambles, 16 NRL clubs all at loggerheads with the governing body and New’s, the QRL not moving forwards, the NSWRL still uncertain about its development role, and the development of Rugby League in the Country is dropping.
Underneath these two signings of NRL stars is the clear difference between the administration of the two codes…
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:01am
Chook said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Just to let you know where my alligences area.
A- League is my number 1 sport but I will watch other sports as well, I still love a good game of AFL, Rugby or League.
2 points
1/ the AFL does not expand and then fail. The carefully plan and spend money in areas the believe will work. I would not have thought the AFL will succed in Western Syd but I will watch with interest at the success of demise of the AFL there.
2/ Lockyer originally started playing Aussie Rules because that where his family liked to watch and play. He switched to League after his parents moved to Roma. So even the dyed in the wool league or aussie rules players have often been exposed to both sports. Might be the reason why he is so good today.
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:18am
Michael C said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Chook -
Lockyer is a good example (amongst others) I believe who illustrate that a broader base exposure growing up make’s the end player better and a little more open to general sporting concepts rather than buried in the often more ‘restrictive’ thinking of the sport they are playing.
And from the AFL perspective – - – (or NRL the other way), you need to have access to talent pathways and elite development able to accept the kids from anywhere…….if you don’t have those access points, then, you get the stories of kids like Lockyer who effectively had to give up footy because it was all just too hard. If there’s a clear choice – - then the kids will ideally go down the path of the sport they are most suited to. Nothing wrong with that.
June 2nd 2010 @ 10:01am
Albert Ross said | June 2nd 2010 @ 10:01am | Report comment
Well look at Barry Glasgow (from Tullibigeal) back in the 60s and 70s. He had more or less only played ‘ Rules until he switched.
Kids will always play whatever game is available. Back in the day I knew kids who played football and RL one year, then ‘ Rules and Tennis and then RU and RL in subsequent years. Much to the frustration of their coaches I might add.
June 2nd 2010 @ 9:19am
AGO74 said | June 2nd 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
If anyone who remembers the excesses of the 80′s will remember that Kerry Packer once said “You only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime. And I’ve had mine.”.
Well, I think Israel Folau had his “Alan Bond” moment yesterday!