Plenty of questions for Ireland and England
By Brett McKay, 15 Jun 2010 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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The first weekend of international rugby on both sides of the Tasman for 2010 has resulted in a massive win for New Zealand, an impressive win for Australia, and plenty of questions for both Ireland and England.
With both nations coming south on the back of respective second and third placings in the Six Nations, it would turn out a disappointing night for both.
The All Blacks opened their 2010 account in empathic fashion in the regional city of New Plymouth, recording a 66-28 demolition of the Irish, and extending their unbeaten run to 25 Tests dating back for 105 years.
No doubt, Ireland were cornered from the moment they lost No.8 Jamie Heaslip for the remainder of the game for a couple of loose knees in the ruck, and their defence was stretched even further when flyhalf Ronan O’Gara was sin-binned.
Forced to defend for ten minutes of the first half with only 13 men, there is little wonder Ireland were little match for the All Blacks’ onslaught. 38-7 at halftime was a fair indication of the one-sidedness.
For the All Blacks, while outside centre Conrad Smith was back to his best, the young brigade really stood out. Prop Ben Franks was great upfront, alongside older brother and fellow prop Owen, inside centre Benson Stanley was outstanding in midfield, and fullback Israel Dagg was rock solid at the back (no pun intended, honestly). Young lock Sam Whitelock capped the perfect debut with two second half tries, his first coming from his first touch of the ball.
In fact, the All Blacks gave us a real glimpse of the future during the last half hour, with young superstar flyhalf Aaron Cruden coming on for Dan Carter, and winger Zac Guildford joining the fray and dropping the average age even further. It’s fair to say the future still looks bloody good for New Zealanders. Dammit…
For Ireland though, it must be concerning the way the All Blacks opened up their defence so regularly, and will no doubt be a huge focus as they head to Australia for their June 26 showdown with the Wallabies.
On a positive note, the Irish were able to stem the flow in the second half, finishing with three tries to New Zealand’s four. Ireland Captain and outside centre Brian O’Driscoll showed why he’s still considered one of the best no.13s in world rugby with a superb individual try, and had a hand in another too.
Actually, Ireland’s backs all showed glimpses in the second half, but by then the damage was well and truly done. Of course, the question remains why it took so long. They have plenty to work on over the next week and a bit.
On this side of the ditch, the Wallabies put aside the demolition of their inexperienced scrum to comfortably account for the motherland 27-17.
England will undoubtedly point to their scrum as being a major point of attack in this game, but the fact is their scrum was their only point of attack. The closest they came to scoring an actual try was when Wallaby No.8 Richard Brown and winger Drew Mitchell brilliantly held up flanker Tom Croft over the line.
Shortly after that, England received two penalty tries from continual scrum infringements from the at times hapless Australian pack.
You had to feel for the inexperienced Wallaby front row, who famously went into the match with less Test minutes between them than their opposites’ number of Tests. When tighthead prop Salesi Ma’afu was sin-binned in the second half – and probably 20 minutes later than he should have been – the Wallabies’ front row comprised three guys with just two bench appearances between them.
Yet for all the scrum troubles, the Wallabies were outstanding in this match, and scrumhalf Luke Burgess and flyhalf Quade Cooper gave displays that would test any decent superlative dictionary. Burgess particularly played possibly his best game in Gold and was in everything in a dominant first forty.
Most pleasing was that the one area I was critical of him last week, standing over the ball at the back of the ruck, was non-existent and his service to Cooper was first class all night. I see Burgess won a flood of praise on The Roar on Sunday too, and with a nice spattering of apologies and “I was wrong” comments among them. Just as I said of Josh Valentine last week, it was telling that Robbie Deans left Will Genia on the bench.
Cooper was directing play with aplomb, no doubt wanting to take on more of a lead role in the absence of Matt Giteau. Cooper used the inside ball to great success most of the night, to the point that centres Berrick Barnes and Rob Horne had quite nights in attack.
James O’Connor continued his dangerous form from last week’s mid-week Australian Barbarians game (now ingeniously relabelled the “Australian Shackledraggers” by those on The Roar protective of the Barbarians name and traditions. Well played, Viscount).
The Wallabies dominated the ruck contest I thought, and it was worth noting in the second half that they were able to pick and choose when to hold back and when to contest. That nearly a third of England’s ruck ball was slow illustrates this beautifully, and while England Captain Lewis Moody seemed a lone hand in the ruck at times, the Wallabies were well-served by Captain Rocky Elsom, David Pocock, Brown and lock Nathan Sharpe.
England looked clueless in attack, save for outside centre Mike Tindall, who was surprisingly benched late in the game. More surprising was that the man who replaced him, Jonny Wilkinson, didn’t come on after halftime for flyhalf Toby Flood.
Perth was the June danger game for the Wallabies, for mine, and I’d now expect them to have few troubles in Sydney next weekend.
My lovely wife probably best summed up England’s showing. Despite battling a failing voice for the last week, she proclaimed in the post-match, “go home, two penalty tries, you can’t even score you big fatties!”
Exactly my sentiments.
If perhaps not in those words.
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June 15th 2010 @ 10:51am
Hayden said | June 15th 2010 @ 10:51am | Report comment
I just read in the SMH that MJ has finally figured out that the 3N is played at a faster pace and greater skill level that the 6N. Well, suck me dry, and call me dusty. He’s finally figured out what everyone else, both NH and SH commentators and posters have been saying since Noah grounded the Ark.
June 15th 2010 @ 11:10am
kingplaymaker said | June 15th 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Hayden one day he might work out there’s a reason the Tri-nations teams are ranked 1-3 in the world…
June 15th 2010 @ 11:11am
johnny-boy said | June 15th 2010 @ 11:11am | Report comment
I suspect the English props were a bit gobsmacked that the Aussie props were still trying to charge it up towards the end of the game after being smashed in the scrum. They’ll be bloody nervous about the scoreline in the next game if the Aussie scrum can hold them (which I think they will) this time. You have to take your hat off to the Aussie props attitude of bugger this – I’m still gonna have a go. It would be a bit disheartening for the English props. The next test is going to be rivetting.
June 15th 2010 @ 11:18am
Terry Kidd said | June 15th 2010 @ 11:18am | Report comment
No chance Colin …. the English backs were all a bit transfixed (a bit like rabbits caught in the headlights) when the Wallaby backs ran at them …. I think that will only get worse next Saturday.
England need a whole change of game plan with a much faster tempo if they are to seriously threaten next Saturday. Can they achieve that in one week? Methinks not. The only thing that will beat the Wallabies next Saturday is themselves because this English team, playing the way they do, certainly can’t.
June 15th 2010 @ 11:20am
Colin N said | June 15th 2010 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Sorry, what did I say?
June 15th 2010 @ 1:58pm
The Other Reds Fan. said | June 15th 2010 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
Personally, I wouldn’t get too excited about Barnes’s game. The other backs made him look good and it will be an improvement if Giteau replaces him. Also, I didn’t exactly see Horne doing much damage. Give Chambers a go. I think our centres were quite innocuous.
June 15th 2010 @ 2:04pm
Brett McKay said | June 15th 2010 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
TORF, as I wrote in the column, Barnes and Horne were largely ignored in attack with Cooper preferring to turn the ball inside to ope England up in the middle, and which worked very well. But Branes and Horne also did a very good job of shutting down Hape and Tindall, so I don’t think we can discount them too easily at all. In fact if Deans decided to rest Giteau for another week, I wouldn’t be concerned at all…
June 15th 2010 @ 8:17pm
Peter K said | June 15th 2010 @ 8:17pm | Report comment
Horner had the balled passed to him ONCE. He ran and offloaded.
He also made 8 tackles, the most for the backs.
Barnes should go. 5 times he kicked, 3 times he ran and zero offloads. The kicks were not that good. Alos only made 5 tackles.
June 15th 2010 @ 2:01pm
Worlds Biggest said | June 15th 2010 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
England needed to make adjustments after a ruderless first half. That should have lead to Flood and Shontayne ” Hype ” not going back out for the 2nd half. Youngs to half, Wilko to 5/8, Tindall to 12 and Tait to 13 would have given them much better shape. There was a lot of hype about Foden but didn’t see anything to justify it at all. While Jonno is copping all the heat shouldn’t the backline ineptitude sit with backs coach Brian Smith ?. They have the cattle in most positions however they never select the right guys, it reminds me of the NSW State of Origin selectors. I’m sure England will be much improved on Saturday but I also expect the Wallabies to improve by cutting down there mistakes ( a lot of dropped balls in first half ) and the pack scrummaging as a unit. Come on Wallabies !
June 15th 2010 @ 2:09pm
jimmy_01 said | June 15th 2010 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Agreed, Chambers was brilliant this season, and probably won’t get a run next year when the teams become full strength in preperation for the world cup. Horne’s also a youngster as well, if he were an older bloke chambers would have been in the team already
June 15th 2010 @ 3:07pm
Terry Kidd said | June 15th 2010 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
I have seen a few comments today that the Wallabies prospects in the 3N look good this year. Despite being a dyed in the wool Wallaby fan I beg to differ. I agree that the Wallabies should perform better than last year however this weekend’s results, where the Boks destroyed the 6N champions and the ABs slaughtered a team the Wallabies drew with when they last played, show that we may still be the third best performed of the 3N teams.
The results over the next 3 weeks will offer some more clarity but in my opinion it is too early to be making predictions about the 3N.
June 15th 2010 @ 3:25pm
Brett McKay said | June 15th 2010 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
Exactly why I commented above that I’d rather delay TNs talk until July, Terry. Let’s just worry about England and then Ireland….
June 15th 2010 @ 4:06pm
whodares said | June 15th 2010 @ 4:06pm | Report comment
I was obviously watching a different game to you Brett.
Did you see the score? Wallabies won by 4 kicks 2 penalties at the end and two conversions.
Lucky for us Wilkinson wasn’t kicking otherwise it would have been 27-23 at best
if it wasn’t for the fact that England’s attack simply had no idea about what to do the Wallabies would have lost.
Scrum Smashed, breakdown (ruck and mauls that is) Australia 70 England 84 and Turn overs England 19 Australia 23 (they won the contest), line breaks Wallabies 4 England 3,
The English scrum half should have been throwing it wide when close to the line but for some unknown reason kept it in the forwards which played into Australia’s defensive hands.
I am a Wallaby supporter but we were terrible the AB’s and SB’s will have us for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
If Irealand lost by 38 with a scrum that can actually hold the England pack then god are we up for a slacking.
June 15th 2010 @ 7:05pm
Brett McKay said | June 15th 2010 @ 7:05pm | Report comment
Whodares, I’d suggest you were watching a different game to most of us by the sounds. Even the English Roarers among us conceded the scrum was the only point of English victory. Stats can say anything you want them to, remember…
June 15th 2010 @ 4:44pm
Worlds Biggest said | June 15th 2010 @ 4:44pm | Report comment
Whodares, you certainly must have been watching a different game. Apart from the obvious, the Wallabies were as sharp and clinical for an early season game as most of us have seen in a long time. I was very impressed as they are notoriously slow and scrappy starters to a season. The scoreline flattered the Poms. What if Berrick Barnes doesn’t butcher a certain try in the opening 5 minutes there is another 7 points not to mention the amount of ball we spilled in good attacking positions in the first half. You reckon they were terrible ?. You obviously haven’t been watching the Wallabies consistently from 2003 – 2009 where there is a host of howlers in that period.