Memo to the IRB: Fix the scrums!
By Spiro Zavos, 17 Jun 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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(L to R) Australian rugby union players Salesi Ma'afu, Huia Edmonds and Ben Alexander practice a scrum formation during a training session in Sydney. AAP Image/Paul Miller.
Just when rugby was getting back to being an expansive, skillful game with adjusted laws at the ruck and maul that reward attacking play, a blight is descending on the game that threatens to destroy the green shoots.
That blight is the modern scrum with its endless collapses, its time wasting by beefy front rows and its often strange policing by referees who often don’t seem to know that they are doing.
At Gosford on Tuesday night, a game that won applause from an enthusiastic crowd at half-time when the players trotted off the field, was brought to a standstill when the referee Steve Walsh forced the Australian Barbarians to scrum again when they virtually had the ball in the hands of the halfback.
The scrum was reset. Why? Then Walsh penalised the Barbarians. After that the scrums began to resemble peace conferences with the players standing around getting ready to get on with the war. The game degenerated after all this. It was a relief when the final whistle was blown.
Whenever someone from this part of the world suggests reforms or improvements to the way scrums are managed the usual suspects in the British media start to get all agitated and make the nonsensical claims that the southern hemisphere countries want to de-power the scrum because they can’t scrum themselves.
This is nonsense. New Zealand, South Africa and the Argentina have sides with terrific scrums and have no interest in de-powering the scrum. Nor does Australia. Right now there are difficulties with the Wallabies because so many leading front rowers are out injured. But at the Super rugby level the Australian scrums more than held their own.
The reason why the scrums need to be fixed by the IRB – and urgently – is to build on the way the game has evolved into a real rugby contest with the changes to the tackled ball law. Get the scrums right, and this means contested scrums but no time-wasting and phony tricks in the manner of the England pack at Perth last week, and the game has a splendid springboard into its worldwide exposure next year with the World Cup tournament.
Here are a few modest proposals, with supporting comments, that should be considered for 2011 by the IRB:
1. Stop the clock when a scrum is ordered. Start the clock when the scrum has been resolved with the ball out or a penalty awarded.
It is clear that in the northern hemisphere, particularly, scrum time is being as smoko time by packs that can’t keep up with the pace of the modern game.
2. Penalise packs that waste time.
There is a provision to penalise sides that delay throwing the ball into the lineout. Put a similar provision in for scrums. We want to stop this nonsense of sides squatting ready to scrum and then pulling back, standing up before preparing to get ready to scrum a bit.
3. Reduce the scrum calls to two: ‘Touch’ ‘Pack!”
The sides should be told to crouch without this being formalised. If sides play for time, penalise them then and there.
The ‘Touch’ “Pack!’ calls should flow quickly. No notable pause.
The instruction ‘Pack’ is the right word to use, rather than ‘Scrum!’ (my earlier suggestion) and ‘Engage!’ because as a reader of The Roar pointed out it is one syllable.
Sides can lock shoulders as soon as they hear the word ‘Pack!’ and make contact after the word is finished. But with the two-syllable ‘Engage!’ and presumably if ‘Scrum! (a one-a-half-syllable word) contact is made often before the word is finished.
Then referees sometimes penalised sides – unfairly for an early engagement.
4. When the referee calls ‘Pack’ he should have his hands on both props and join them together.
This would ensure that both sides get a fair hit.
5. Once the hit is made the halfback should immediately put the ball into the scrum. The packs should be allowed to scrum as soon as the hit is made.
A great deal of the problems with scrums is centered on the halfback refusing to put the ball in (the Gregan manoeuvre) until his pack has a sort of ascendancy.
Wayne Barnes, who had an excellent match in the New Zealand – Ireland match (only 6 penalties in the first half) penalised the All Blacks scrum for pushing off the mark. Later on he warned the Irish halfback about delaying his feed.
The halfback should have been penalised, not the All Blacks.
6. Once the ball is in a position to be released from the scrum, the scrum should be allowed to continue.
This brings us to the incident at Gosford. If Walsh had allowed play to go on, we might not have had the ensuing delays and so on that followed the reset.
None of these suggestions make any fundamental change to the nature of the scrum as a contest between two packs. What they do, in fact, is to allow the contest to be on a level playing play.
There needs to be a fundamental shift, too, in the way the northern hemisphere rugby establishment views scrums. They see the scrum as an ned in itself. They are happy therefore to see endless scrumming chewing up the clock and the flow of penalties that emerge when scrums become a mess.
The southern hemisphere view is that the scrum is a distinctive part of rugby where there is a shoulder-to-shoulder contest between the two packs. Teams with strong scrums should be rewarded for their strength. And under my suggestions this is what would happen with a good scrum giving a great platform for back attacks, and a poor scrum putting teams under pressure.
But in the end, the scrum, like the lineout and the kick-offs, is really a way to re-start the game. This is the justification for stopping the clock for scrums until they are completed.
There are two further points that need to be made.
First, it was the northern hemisphere unions that killed off the ELVs proposal for only short-arm penalties from scrums, unless foul play was involved. This suggestion should be revived.
Second, in first class matches there is always a spare referee to cover for the referee and the assistant referees in cause of an injury. This spare referee should be brought on to the field for scrums and stood on the side not covered by the referee.
At Perth we had the Welsh referee Nigel Owens convinced that all the scrum sins were being committed by the Wallabies. So whenever the scrum went down, he penalised Australia. Some, but not all, but definitely some of these infringements were committed by the England props. They waited until the referee was on the other side and then pulled the scrum down, and won the penalty.
What we want in rugby is scrums like lineouts that are contested but do not take up an inordinate amount of time to take place. Lifting was brought into lineouts to get around its illegal use, which was hard to detact (like props collapsing the scrums).
Stephen Jones of the UK Sunday Times predicted rather fearlessly (and stupidly?) that there would never be another lineout in Test rugby won against the throw. Tell that to opponents of Victor Matfield!
The point here is that the systems was modernised and cleaned up in the scrums, as they have been in the lineouts, we will get the contested scrum and strong packs getting their just reward for their dominance.
Right now the scrum is a mess, as lineouts were in the days when they were described as ‘dockyard brawls.’
So we have this memo to the IRB. Fix the mess, and we reckon the ideas put forward here will go a long way to achieving this.
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June 17th 2010 @ 8:01am
Derby County FC said | June 17th 2010 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Spiro
You’re a whinger!
June 17th 2010 @ 8:22am
Dingobob said | June 17th 2010 @ 8:22am | Report comment
I think the the referee’s need to pay a lot more attention to the bind. And not just the bind dropping but getting it right in the first place when the scrum packs. It is the bind that is the glue for all scrums and without this fundamental skill being carried out properly we will forever be having resets. The English prop was penalised once during the first test for incorrect bind but continued to do it (and so did the Wallabies on occasion) throughout the game. And as silly as it sounds I think someone needs to look at the tight jerseys being worn by props now that make it extremely difficult to get an easy bind with wet and tired hands.
June 17th 2010 @ 5:36pm
Bob Mcgregor said | June 17th 2010 @ 5:36pm | Report comment
I agree with your dislike of the ‘new’ jerseys. Far too tight, making it almost impossible to get a grip and keep it. Now most come without sleeves. Why? So no-one can distinguish whose hand it is playing the ball on the ground and to also minimize the potential bind in all forms of forward play.
Back to loose fitting long sleeved jerseys for all players.
June 17th 2010 @ 8:27am
The Other Reds Fan. said | June 17th 2010 @ 8:27am | Report comment
Let’s face it, if Australia had a competitive scrum, this article wouldn’t have even been written.
Stop whinging. Our first choice forwards will be able to hold their own against any pack in the world. When they do, none of these modifications will be talked about.
In the meantime, just be patient while we develop some reserves. What is happening now is very good for us a year out from the world cup. I think it was meant to be.
June 17th 2010 @ 8:28am
TembaVJ said | June 17th 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Spiro’s checklist of complaints for 2010.
Kicking (too much) check
Breakdown laws check
ELV remarks check
Stupid Refs check
South African refs check
Cheating Refs check
No good bulls check
The Srum check
Cheating saffas check
Bakkies Botha …
June 17th 2010 @ 9:04am
warrenexpatinnz said | June 17th 2010 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Lucky he is a sports journalist paid to envoke comment whether it be negative or bad and with that creating controversy whether it is justified or not doesn’t matter as it is a sure way to get more hits to a web site or more papers read.
Do I get a free new Wallaby jumper for that defence Spiro?
June 17th 2010 @ 5:39pm
Bob Mcgregor said | June 17th 2010 @ 5:39pm | Report comment
But TembaVJ, isn’t surprising how right Spiro normally is?
June 17th 2010 @ 6:54pm
Lee said | June 17th 2010 @ 6:54pm | Report comment
Man, we really need a “sarcasm font” for typing – I almost thought you were being serious Bob.
June 17th 2010 @ 9:18am
reds fan said | June 17th 2010 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Spiro, haven’t you learnt yet? Australians aren’t worthy of having legitimate thoughts on improving rugby. We are just running scared cos we cant scrum and secretly want to turn RU into RL!!
Same old dull responses from NH types. Like they’ve ever added anything since W.W.Ellis created the game. Perhaps they think they’ve contributed enough already!
June 17th 2010 @ 9:21am
sheek said | June 17th 2010 @ 9:21am | Report comment
RF,
And WWE never created the game anyway. That’s just another myth that we all pay lip-service to…..
June 17th 2010 @ 9:29am
Brett McKay said | June 17th 2010 @ 9:29am | Report comment
As a small-framed halfback with limited defensive ability, I was never versed in the dark arts of scrumaging, except to say that on more than one occasion I found myself in close proximity to a swinging arm from the opposition prop if they felt I was delaying the feed. So no.5 I quickly learned to comply with anyway.
But I can’t find too much argument with any of these points of Spiro’s. I agree too with other calls that the enforcing of a straight feed would go a long way to improving things too. And the two-stage call of touch-pack is almost going full cirlce on the schoolboy scrum calls of my time anyway: sink-touch-pause-pack, followed by (delay til we win the push-evade swinging arm-feed scrum…)
June 17th 2010 @ 10:05am
cookie said | June 17th 2010 @ 10:05am | Report comment
If the ref was to feed the ball into the scrum we’d get a straight feed?
June 17th 2010 @ 10:06am
Rickety Knees said | June 17th 2010 @ 10:06am | Report comment
It is clear that a dominant scrum will try and “milk” penalties and referees comply with a “dominant scrum can do no wrong” mindset. The NH has made this into an artform and will never want this to change. All this goes away when the Wallabies have their preferred front row. It is part and parcel of the game.
What gets up my nose is that most referees and their assistants are deficient in scrum knowledge and skills. They constantly seek visual perfection and will reset a scrum even when the ball is under the No8′s feet. This is pedantic nonsense and not in the best interests of the game.
I agree that feeding the ball straight would make a big difference to scrum dynamics and “touch pack” works for me.
June 17th 2010 @ 10:07am
Who Needs Melon said | June 17th 2010 @ 10:07am | Report comment
While some (most?) of these arguments seem valid, the timing looks so dubious given our current scrum woes. How about we become consistently top scrummagers and THEN make these suggestions. Either that or partner with a top scrummaging nation like England and get THEM to raise them… which wouldn’t be easy at the best of times and isn’t helped by niggling them.
June 17th 2010 @ 10:42am
sixo_clock said | June 17th 2010 @ 10:42am | Report comment
If the Refs officiated Law 20 (it is not overly complex) properly there would be no problem with the scrums. There are no ‘dark arts’ nor deep concepts involving structural engineering, quantum physics or molecular tranformative number theory. Despite what the chattering assembled former practitioners will tell you, the only thing that happens in a scrum that needs any explanation are age old attempts to cheat, pure and simple. Rugby is about striving to achieve while skilfully balancing sometimes conflicting inputs, one of those inputs is the Laws however attempts to subvert them and give away penalties is dumb tactically.
Anyone who has read Law 20 (only 12 pages with pictures) will tell you there is no relation to what is in those pages and the frustrations of what happens on the pitch. It is an attitude problem which as Spiro pointed out is undermining the future of the game. Virtually nobody enjoys seeing boring resets, but they love to see the cloud of steam, the primeval grunt and the flying sods of turf as rival packs ‘contest’ for the ball.
Quick fix: yellow card both opposing players in a collapse that could have involved ‘pulling down’, one for doing the pulling and the other for being weak and falling for the pull. However Spiro’s ‘Scrum Ref’ might also keep them honest.
Long fix: Put all resets ‘on report’ and fine, suspend any frequent flyers who seemingly cannot grasp the simplicity of the scrum and its value and purpose.
Ps: If scrums were refereed and played properly ‘The Fuse’ could be reactivated. I suspect he just never ‘got’ the cheating side of it all and was therefore fair game for those who did not care about the long term future of our game.
The IRB website has a PDF format Law Book, Free.
English language version.
http://www.irblaws.com/EN/downloads/
June 17th 2010 @ 1:26pm
Johnstone said | June 17th 2010 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
Clearly you’re not a ref mate. Grab a whistle and you’ll quickly find out Law 20 isn’t so easy to rule. You’ve got to watch for a double crotch bind,check 6 players are set pretty square, on the touch call make sure all 4 props can and have touched, watch that no one engages early, make sure 4 blokes have bound, watch the scrum half feed whilst making sure that everyone is driving straight, no angles, no driving up, pulling down, don’t forget you’re offside lines, watch the defending scrum half, look up at the defending backs to keep them onside too, keep that openside flanker bound, they always go early. And chances are some No 6 will use his hand to keep the ball in the scrum just as you are looking at something else. This is about a quarter of what you’re watching for, all in the space of about 3 seconds, so I recon this falls into the ‘complex’ category.
June 17th 2010 @ 3:44pm
sixo_clock said | June 17th 2010 @ 3:44pm | Report comment
So your solution would be….?
Ps: Scrum setup take a lot longer than 3 secs, it unfolds in stages and the ref controls each stage, are you saying you are a ref? Should we have an IQ test and insist they pass this time?
June 17th 2010 @ 5:20pm
Johnstone said | June 17th 2010 @ 5:20pm | Report comment
Hi mate,
Yeah, I’m a ref, not a leading one by any stretch, but I do my bit for community rugby. I was trying to say there is a lot going on at scrumtime, and its not a simple task to manage.
My suggestion? Well, the “touch – pack” call with no delay suggested by Spiro can’t work. You need the delay to see if everyone has touched, then the ability to pull it up if they haven’t. But the engagement process could be simplified. I’m no front rower, but I honestly don’t see the point in the ‘hit’. Its a reletively new concept. Scrums used to slowly form, everyone would come together and get a good bind, and when everyone was ready, the scrum half would feed the ball, and only then would the pressure come on. Going back to this style would take away a bit of the ‘theatre’ around scrums, but would reduce colapses by about 90% IMO.
June 17th 2010 @ 5:49pm
sixo_clock said | June 17th 2010 @ 5:49pm | Report comment
It seems that we need to get international refs on the same page, this is where the leadership has to come IMO, stand up to the NH scrum lunacy and get back to playing Rugby.
cheers.
June 18th 2010 @ 1:29am
johno said | June 18th 2010 @ 1:29am | Report comment
90% of collapses are because of the hit, excellent idea!
Get the hit outa there, but then you’d be leaving Aussie props with no excuses but to scrum. That’ll bring on the next wave of let’s do something about the scrum complaints.