Wallabies beaten by a team built like dart players
By Spiro Zavos, 21 Jun 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Before the Australia-England Teat began, high up in the stands of the ANZ Stadium, I was asked how I thought the Test would turn out. I gazed around me. Most of the crowd were wearing their yellow scarfes and beanies, making the arena look like a field of golden daffodils.
In a section behind the posts were a phalanx of England supporters in their white jerseys. “I reckon the score will be around 30 to 12, the Wallabies way,” I told my friend.
And early on in the Test, despite the England opening penalty, it looked as though this overly optimistic prediction might work out. And the reason for this was that the Wallaby scrum seemed to be greatly improved on the disintegrating mess of the Perth Test.
From the first scrum, the Wallaby front row held up and managed to execute a slow-motion wheel, which gave the feed to Australia. From the following scrum, the England pack was penalised.
I’ve heard some mighty roars at the ANZ Stadium in my time, but the explosion of sound, like a hundred cannons going off at once, created an incredible moment.
In general, the Wallaby scrum held up throughout a tough night of scrumming. But it must be acknowledged that two of the penalties England kicked came from scrum errors by the Australian pack.
The fact remains, after watching the All Blacks and Springboks (who went off the boil in the second half of their Test against Italy) defeat two strong scrumming sides over the weekend, the Wallabies will be in dire trouble if their front line props and hookers aren’t available by the time the Tri-Nations Tests are played.
The improvement in the Wallaby scrum, though, was cancelled out by an unacceptable fall-off in the intensity of the Wallabies forward play in the rucks and mauls, and in their overall defensive play, which is usually a strong point in the team’s game.
It is a bit like a golfer with the yips with his putting getting this right and then finding that his driving game has turned sour.
Both England’s tries came from dreadful Wallaby defensive work.
Ben Youngs, a terrific Sevens Rugby player, scuttled from a short lineout when Dean Mumm ran straight for the number 10 and then swerved past James O’Connor for a telling try.
The try scored by Chris Ashton, a big, fast winger, also involved a missed tackle by O’Connor.
The dash for the try-line came after a long series of phases as England bashed away from one side of the field to another, until Ashton raced through near a maul to speed away for a great try.
England were too big for the Wallabies across the field.
They broke tackles and imposed themselves in the rucks and mauls. This size advantage was accentuated by the way England was able to slow down the game, generally when a scrum was going to be set, with runners in their blue shirts flooding on to the field (there seemed to be ten of them on the England bench!)
The point about all this is that this England side, aside from a couple of exceptions, would never pass a stringent skin-fold test. As one of the reserve props waddled on to the field, I remarked to the editors of The Roar sitting beside me: “He’s got the build of a darts player.”
These darts players were never subjected to the torture of having to run back and forward, across one way and then the other way, chasing backs and forwards moving the ball in hand quickly the way, say, the All Blacks tormented the big Wales pack so clinically and savagely at Carisbrook earlier in the night.
England were allow to dictate the pace of the game, through the stoppages system and the brain-dead kicking tactics of the Wallabies.
They kicked more in one half of this Test, make that one quarter of the Sydney Test, than they did in the entire 80 minutes ar Perth.
Why? Surely they weren’t under instructions.
And then there was the poor display from Will Genia, who was clearly affected by his strapped leg. Genia’s passing was not as crisp and long as we’ve come to expect. And then he compounded this by adopting the emperor penguin tactic of standing over the ball, as if he was trying to hatch it.
This business of letting the ball lie in the back of the ruck while a flat-line forward attack is being put into place is a complete nonsense, in my opinion. It allows the defence to re-group, settle and target the next runner.
I think I’ve seen only one try coming out of this slow-motion type of set-up.
So what was Genia doing?
Again, I find it hard to believe that he was playing to the instructions of his coach. I agree with some comments made yesterday on The Roar that Genia should have been hooked and Luke Burgess brought on to play, hopefully, in the manner he did at Perth and not how he played for the NSW Waratahs.
England got their victory, their first in Australia since 2003 and only their third in 16 Tests here since the first in 1963.
So this is a great achievement for Martin Johnson and his team, which included several promising younger players.
But this team cannot be compared in any way, across the positions, to Sir Clive Woodward’s side of 2003 which defeated the Wallabies at Melbourne and in the Rugby World Cup final. Woodward’s side, in my opinion, was the finest England side since 1870 and one of the great teams in the history of rugby.
Johnson’s team is overweight, not quick enough around the field, lacking in initiative in its tactics, and has its number 10 standing in the quarter back position most of the time. But like good dart players, they can be formidable if they allowed to perform their simple tactics and plays at the pace that suits them.
This gets us back to the Wallabies.
Again in The Roar there has been criticism of Rocky Elsom’s captaincy. He should have taken the shot at goal at the end of the game instead of opting for a five-metre lineout.
Always take the points is the golden rule of Test rugby.
But, more importantly, he failed to get his team to quicken up their play when he saw England intent on slowing down the game. The All Blacks did this against Wales, tapping and running penalties outside their 22.
They also moved the ball around quickly and ran back most of the kicks.
The result was that the Welsh forwards, a pack like England that has players with, how shall we say it in this PC age, generous proportions around their girth, was literally run off its feet.
Robbie Deans will have to toughen up the second row, get some mongrel into a revamped back row, toughen up the tackling, get quicker service from his halves and more running from his backs for next week’s Test against Ireland.
Heads will have to roll.
As he told reporters after the Test, the result and the way the two team’s played was “significant for both sides.”
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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June 21st 2010 @ 9:04am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:04am | Report comment
To improve penetration in the inside backs: buy Inglis and Slater.
To improve physicality and quality in the forwards: bring back Vickerman and Mcmenniman.
Wallabies’ problems solved.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:59am
Chuck said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Slater is a freak – the best player in any football code in the world
June 21st 2010 @ 10:02am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
Chuck definitely more of a freak than Mitchell.
June 21st 2010 @ 1:12pm
Dingobob said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:12pm | Report comment
Bring in Van Humphries. I don’t think I have ever seen him play a game half hearted and I’m not a reds fan.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:08am
Corvus said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:08am | Report comment
I blame homebush. Wallabies rarely play with any intensity at ANZ stadium. It’s like some mental valium descends on them.
Suncorp stadium on the other has the opposite effect. Watch for the boys play out of their skins this Saturday.
Subtext – move the the games you want to win to Suncorp.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:22am
Amateur Hour said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:22am | Report comment
I’ve started referring to Homebush as Moon Stadium – no atmosphere.
And re the post below, this also explains why people don’t head out to the games out at Homebush.
When are the Sydney Cricket and Sports Ground Trusts going to upgrade the SFS to a 60,000 seater like Suncorp? Or has a backroom deal been done to ensure this doesn’t happen so that Moon Stadium will continue to be viable and not become more of a white elephant?
June 21st 2010 @ 9:30am
M.O.C. said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:30am | Report comment
Good call on the darts players (or angry bikers), but could not help but notice the occasional Aussie gut hanging out in the front row too.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:30am
Eamonn Flanagan said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:30am | Report comment
41,000 was that the crowd? Interesting turnout for the Auld Enemy?
June 21st 2010 @ 10:02am
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
I was there, and the crowd at the ground was announced as 48,000 plus.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:31am
Hoy said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:31am | Report comment
I would love some clarification of several issues I have with the Wallabies.
Why oh why is Dean Mumm selected in so many tests? He dropped two balls in the open last week, hits rucks like an A4 piece of paper, and now can’t even seem to defend at 1st man. That is stuff is taught at under 13s. For everyone who asks who is better, my answer now would be anyone. Jeez, even the Irish have an Australian playing in the row for them that would be better, and add more grunt than this bloke. There would be heaps of players out there that would know their job and be able to perform it better week in, week out than Dean Mumm. So why aren’t they being picked? Dennis? What happened to him after going on tour? Some good games for NSW, and yet they stick with this mug. Rob Simmons showed promise this year. Anyone!
We just seem to go from week to week. What happened after the game? They just seem to forget the week before all too easily. A couple of well worn media bits from the players about how they tried, but it just didn’t come off etc, and then move one to do something similar next week. It really riles me up. Some of these players don’t seem to have any heart whatsoever. I hope I am wrong.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:35am
sheek said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:35am | Report comment
I guess we Aussies are not as good across a range of footy codes as we like to think we are. It’s been a bit of a humbling experience these past few years.
The Wallabies have only improved marginally since the debacle of the 2007 rugby union world cup. In 2008, the Kangaroos lost the rugby league world cup to the Kiwis. While the Kiwis have also outperformed us at the FIFA world cup. Despite us apparently having the better players.
Of course, our Aussie rules players are unassailably the best in the world since no-one else plays the game to any extent. How lucky for them….. ?
We’re not consistently good at rugby because we continually ignore the most important tenet – ‘that every rugby game begins at the scrum. Everything else follows’.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:39am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:39am | Report comment
Sheek have a look below about Wallabies players loss catastrophe to see one reason for the current problems.
June 21st 2010 @ 9:36am
Harry said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:36am | Report comment
To me the lack of mental strength most showed through in Giteau’s nervous poke at a sitter of a penalty, and, most tellingly of all, his silly grin afterwards, and rather glib acceptance of failure. Says it all about this current team – accepting the sort of mediocrity, always falling short in big games despite the talent, that has been the hallmark of the Australian teams (Brumbies, Wallabies, Tahs, Reds this year) for the last 5 years. Git’s kicking confidence was a bit off after missing some tough shots at goal on the wrong side, but a mentally tough player would have kicked that sitter 10 out of 10 times.
Yes we were clearly getting beasted in the forwards and Genia was lame, so where was the leader who needed to stand up and counter this? Not Rocky Elsom, Not Matt Giteau, not Nathan Sharpe (watch the tape and see him revert to his old seagulling habits when he needed to be hitting rucks hard). Pocock seemed to be the only one trying and at least got some support (except at scrums) from Faingaa and Daley. Faingaa’s throwing into the lineout was poor for a test hooker.
I’va consistently said Mitchell’s defence is very poor and he was again shown up on Saturday night. Drop him for Turner. More worryingly JOC also missed tackles. Bench him for AAC. Horne, normally so reliable in defence, started rushing up and slipped off a few tackles as well.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:13am
Nicol'arse said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:13am | Report comment
Yep totally agree with everything you say Harry. For Giteau to comment in such a nonchalant way that “it wasn’t one of his proudest moments” but that “you just have to move on” smacks of not really giving a rats a*se about the fact he missed such a sitter to lose the Test match.
Nothing irks me more than to see Wallabies putting in a lame performance. Last week they were getting monstered in the scrums but everybody said… at least they tried their guts out, we can’t ask more of them than that.
To be honest, I’d rather see them giving it everything and lose by 50 than run around with a “whatever” attitude like they did last Sat and win by 20.
Deans should have gone nuts at half time!!
June 21st 2010 @ 10:23am
Harry said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Not the first time its happened with Giteau. Remember the Scotland game? Fact is despite his abundant talents Giteau is no good in the really big pressure moments.
We weren’t prepared to do the hard things in the forwards. Watch Mumm’s blunder for the first English try. Charging at the 10 might work for Sydney Uni or perhaps against the Lions or Force, but was exposed for what it was – softness and trying to take the easy way out – against a test side, and would be against the Bulls or Saders.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:14pm
Deez said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:14pm | Report comment
Stat-wise – Faingaa only missed one line-out throw. We did have one other turnover in the line-out, but that was after a clean take by Sharpe (which he then threw down to an England player who had broken the line).
Agree with your suggested replacement candidates though – AAC in for JOC at fullback (much more solid in defence and attacking the hgih ball). Would bring both Hynes and Turner in on the wings – need some players to run some straight lines now that Digby is done for the season (that loss will sting…). Mumm needs to go, although Chisholm isn’t much better (would love to see Simmons or Douglas get some gametime).
June 21st 2010 @ 9:37am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Odd to look at how many players are currently injured:
Ioane
Genia
Mortlock
Horwill
Moore
Polota-nau
Alexander
Robinson
In the two years before by moving abroad, leaving the game, retiring, being fired, the Wallabies have also lost:
Vickerman
Mcmenniman
Tuqiri
Tahu
Smith
So that’s a total shortfall of 13 players, almost a whole team.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:18am
Hayden said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:18am | Report comment
king: how many of them are actually good players? Tahu was a dud, Tuqiri a personification of what is wrong with many current Wallabies, i.e. style over substance, I thought Ioane and Genia were actually playing the other day. Moore is a mystery. A couple of seasons ago he looked for all money the best hooker in the world – what’s his injury status? Polota-nau hasn’t really settled in at the top level either.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:29am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:29am | Report comment
Hayden firstly re Ioane and Genia they’ve injured now and I’m talking about the next matches.
My point is not that all these players would be test match certainties or successes, but to remove 50% of a playing pool is a quite serious reduction, as many of them will be pretty good.
Cut in half, it’s not suprising the Wallabies are not up to it.
(by the way I disagree Tahu was a dud, he had hardly got going when he left).
June 21st 2010 @ 11:01am
Lion Red said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:01am | Report comment
You can add Wycliff Palu onto that list. However I think it is not only the Wallabies who are suffering from player defection and injuries to their squad. The AB’s and to some extent the Boks have also been victim to injuries and player defection. But through necessity have blooded and selected new players since 2007 WC to their International program and are looking in good stead with a healthy stable of players to call on when the 2010 WC comes.
Granted that the AUS rugby does not have the depth of players compared to NZ and SA but who’s fault is that? Australia have a wealth of talent in it’s junior ranks when looking at how well they perform in Secondary Schools and U/20′s. A lot of this talent (the cream) go onto Super Rugby but I suspect a lot of the 2nd tier talent is lost to other codes, overseas or different career paths. You can blame Robbie Deans all you want but when the rugby system is flawed and been exposed like the June Series than the blame must go on the ARU.
My only beef with Deans is what is up with playing ACC from the bench?!
June 21st 2010 @ 11:31am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Lions Red I completely agree that Deans is not to blame.
However, I think there is not even that much talent in australian rugby in the beginning as in NZ and SA.
How can they improve this? EXPAND with a) a national competition, which also fulfills what you were saying about not losing what is there already b) new super teams in new areas like Melbourne. In this way over 5 or 10 years new areas of the country would deliver new talent and it would be better developed.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:57am
sheek said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
KPG,
Of course, this is another problem – a lack of depth with quality players.
In the professional era, be it rugby union or football or whatever, having one or two good teams is no longer enough. You probably need enough quality players to cover 3 or 4 international teams.
The truth is, it’s very likely you will always have about 3-6 usually first choice players injured at any time.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:27am
kingplaymaker said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Sheek I think this is actually the whole problem. Because the Wallabies do not have as much depth as NZ and SA, they are very badly hit when there are injuries, and they simply cannot lose players overseas. Taking Vickerman and Mcmenniman away is devastating for the forwards and the line-out.
Think of NZ in the centres this autum: Nonu, Smith, Kahui, Mcalister, SBW, Stanley, Toeva. Injuries or players cannot affect you so much when you such a huge list of top players.
South Africa in the back row is another example.
The moral by the way, is O’Neill can’t let any players go away ever, the Wallabies’ playing stocks are too thin and they will collapse with the smallest damage, and he should get Vickerman and Mcmenniman back.
I don’t think he or Wallabies fans should be above the thought of acquiring some league players too: Inglis and Slater.
June 21st 2010 @ 12:47pm
warrenexpatinnz said | June 21st 2010 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
KP once Palu, Horwill, TPN, Moore, Robinson are back on deck the Wallabies will have no issues in the forward pack. Take out McCaw, Reid and Mealamu (remebering Faiaanga third/fourth choice) and you have a comparison.
Yes it was a tough game to stomach but guys that wouldn’t normaly get the chance to play the old dart did and should be better for it. The chances of losing so many front line forwards again will be greatly reduced if you work on averages.
Of course we also get to see the players that haven’t measured up, which are Mafu and Mumm (too many sub standard performances) and that for me is a great result as it shows that we are getting good replacements as Faiaanga, Slipper, Daley (getting better) and Horne have shown with some more game time they will be very good second choice, possible even first choice over time.
Expect the Wallabies to win by a truck load this week.
Note; have you seen the injury list for the ABs this week, Carter, Dagg, Boric? maybe just maybe my $100 on the Welsh for the game in Hamilton has the now, faintest of chances!
June 21st 2010 @ 1:14pm
Sam Taulelei said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:14pm | Report comment
Warren the point is, every team is going to suffer injuries and every team will have positions that are shallow in depth. Not sure why the comparison unless it’s to imply that three All Black forwards equals five Wallaby forwards?
The All Blacks have their own injuries, but they refuse to use it as an excuse for dropping their standards or for losing a game. The expectation is that if you’re wearing the jersey then you’re expected to perform in it. Last year Isaac Ross debuted for the All Blacks after a sensational Super 14 season and was even given the responsiblity of calling the lineouts. The coaches then told him he had to pack on more weight to his frame and get more aggressive around the field with cleanouts and scrummaging. His career has stalled since then and has been usurped by an experienced provincial player Tom Donnelly and another promising youngster Sam Whitelock.
One wonders whether that absence of ruthelessness in Wallaby selections is creating a false sense of security for some players that no matter how they play there is nobody else ready to step into their spot. They’re just happy to play for the Wallabies and not become a great Wallaby or the best player in the world in their position.
There is no doubt that McCaw adds enormously to the All Blacks, not only in his skill as a player but also his skill and presence as a captain. He noticeably lifts players around him as they’re inspired by his high standards. Elsom isn’t doing the same for his troops and he needs to start playing with a follow the leader type attitude.
As for your lazy $100 on the Welsh in Hamilton, Cory Jane in for Dagg, Sam Whitelock in for Boric, Zac Guildford in for Jane and I expect Carter to still be named in the starting side is still a handy team and will comfortably account for the Welsh.
June 21st 2010 @ 2:50pm
Ben C said | June 21st 2010 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
Given Saturday’s performance, your exchange rate is far too favourable to Australia.
June 21st 2010 @ 3:53pm
warrenexpatinnz said | June 21st 2010 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
Sam I did say it was the faintest of chances and kudos for the five forwards to three comparison, was adding two Wallabies for McCaw and another for luck?
Think you are pretty right with the ruthlessness and the point I was making, but not so clearly was that when you have the likes of Horwill, Palu back in the Wallaby forwards have far more impact and that niggle and fear factor. Through in our TPN missile and Elsom has some much needed support.
I think Elsom is only struggling because he misses the support of a player like Horwill and you add to that having to ‘baby’ a new front row he has possibly lost a little focus. I do think he asked the right questions of the refs in both games and played very well although again wasn’t supported enough to make his impact better felt.
I would like to convert my Kiwi $100 into a good return this Saturday night but have my doubts, though you couldn’t completly right off the Welsh Sam, remember Carter’s calf strain in 2007? Went from a niggle to a complete pull after 40 minutes. I would say too valuable to play if in any doubt.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:50pm
Mr Saunders said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:50pm | Report comment
‘Ioane
Genia
Mortlock
Horwill
Moore
Polota-nau
Alexander
Robinson’
Genia and Ioane played v England. Mortlock and Horwill haven’t featured in months so versus England two props and two hookers were absent.
Are you sure you’re English, kpm? Have you checked your passport recently?
June 21st 2010 @ 10:05am
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:05am | Report comment
As other have said on other threads, I think JOC is too small/light at the moment. His future is at 12 I would suggest; AAC needs to come in at 15, and we need a penetrating centre a la Mortlock in his prime.
June 21st 2010 @ 10:28am
greypower said | June 21st 2010 @ 10:28am | Report comment
Fix the forwards and the backs will shine again. In Perth by their own admission the Poms scrum worked so hard that they didn’t have the energy to impose themselves elsewhere, in Sydney they outmuscled our forwards. It is a credit to the skill of the backs that the tries scored were even.
Sharpe should never ever play for Australia again, and that rule should have been applied several years ago, he has mastered the art of “fringe playing”; when he could run an efficient lineout and when we had someone like Horwill to do his hard work, maybe his inclusion could be justified. His lack of heart is even worse given that along with Elsom he is the senior player in the forwards.
Much as I would like to see Van H rewarded for his wonderful play with the Reds, at his age it would be a backward step for next year’s world cup to include him. Chisholm needs to start, together with either Wykes, Hocking or Hand, all good young players with attitude. I agree that Hodgson should have some time on the field, if only to lend some strength to the back row.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:03am
formeropenside said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Actually, I believe Van may be injured – he has not turned out for his Brisbane club Souths since the end of S14, and (anecdotally) I saw him at Brisbane airport last Friday night, walking with a single crutch (although he was standing waiting for it just fine). At least, he is not 100% fit right now, assuming it was not his twin brother.
With Genia and Ioane out (and I understand A.Faingaa and Chambers also, as well as Higginbotham and others missing the squad), then I’d be looking at a side named v Ireland as follows:
1. Daley
2. S. Faingaa (although TPN may be available, and if so, him)
3. Weeks (these guys did OK for Qld, so worth a try)
4. Simmons or Chisholm (Mumm is too quiet in close)
5. Sharpe
6. Elsom
7. Hodgson
8. Pocock
9. Burgess (well, the other option is Valentine)
10. Cooper
11. Mitchell (if only he could tackle!)
12. Giteau
13. AAC
14. Turner
15. Hynes
16. Edmonds (or S.Faingaa, see above)
17. Slipper
18. Mumm
19. Brown
20. Barnes
21. O’Connor
22. Beale (Gits is the reserve halfback. It may be his best position)
The problem is that, with the squad as chosen, we lacked big tall second rowers (Kane Douglas, Rob Simmons, Van H) and a hard-running no8 in the Palu mould (Houston would have at least provided another option here). Instead, we have three back row 8′s in Hoiles, Brown and Hodgson who are all lightweight ballplayers – really converted 7′s (or, in Hoiles case, a wannabe 12). To an extent the injury to Higginbotham has resulted in this lack of balance, but also Mowen was another option which was ignored – he is also a ballplayer rather than a battering ram, but also has real lineout skills.
Another issue is that all three first choice frontrowers out – Robinson, Alexander and Moore (plus TPN) are all hard chargers to an extent, while their replacements are not – or at least, not yet. This has increased the pressure on the backrow to run, and there are not the cattle to do so.
It all really comes down to poor squad selection, especially in the forwards. The mongrel option was ignored in too many cases, and now its an issue that cant be ignored.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:25am
Rockin Rod said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:25am | Report comment
What about some of the aussie 20s, they will be back this week. Their front row is heavier than our test team
June 21st 2010 @ 11:47am
formeropenside said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:47am | Report comment
Slipper was U20′s last year, and THP PAE is in the Reds Academy. Schatz and Quirk played S14, as did Coleman and To’omua. That does not make them ready for Test rugby.
The injury toll cited above is even longer than that – its also the loss of options like Adam Byrnes at 4, Shepherd at 15, Staniforth at 12.
It would be nice if Rod Davies was fit – he has pure speed, and that, like size, is one thing you can’t coach. As an option for the squad, he would add something to it.
June 21st 2010 @ 1:27pm
Georgie McHugh said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
Adam Byrnes is not and will never be a serious option in test rugby. He is a sniping, irritating player, who relies on niggle to get through Super 14 game. Kane Douglas is a far better prospect for international rugby. Scott Staniforth’s position is in the back three; but, he is closing on 33.
June 21st 2010 @ 1:30pm
Georgie McHugh said | June 21st 2010 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
That leaves on 3 line out options. It doesn’t make sense to weaken two positions to put Pocock at 8. Let him settle into that spot, become the best in the world and then seriuosly consider him to take the captaincy. A captain right under the referee’s nose at srcum time is just what we need.
June 21st 2010 @ 11:29am
Rockin Rod said | June 21st 2010 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Chisholm needs to start. He got 30 on the weekend when Mumm was hooked. How many chances does this guy get.
Get some new blood in their that are itching to play test rugby for their country, not just turn up and pick up anotherv 10k.
When the squad was announced and Van missed out he went under the knife. Now RD is ringing him. Still another 6 weeks out. Ben Hand deserves a crack and maybe Houston at 8. Bolter could be SAMO, he scored another 2 tries on the weekend for the undefeated Souths
June 21st 2010 @ 12:35pm
warrenexpatinnz said | June 21st 2010 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
You are a legend RR, Samo is the key to some big beef and would be an asset in the loose play where as Mumm is becoming another Issac Ross or vice versa.