All Whites are still Socceroos’ little brother
By Paddy Kilmurray, 25 Jun 2010 Paddy Kilmurray is a Roar Pro
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Following the Socceroos exit from the World Cup, one can’t help but draw parallels with our closest sporting rivals, the Kiwis.
It’s in our nature to punch above our weight, two young sporting nations grafting their existence in the world’s most competitive sport. Both have come a long way in last decade, however, the All Whites are still our little brother.
Similar to a family situation, big brother forges the way for little brother through the actions and exploits of the older. I think the All Whites efforts at the World Cup are similar to those of the Socceroos in Germany, 2006.
Despite their shock 4-0 drubbing by Germany, the Socceroos showed great maturity, drawing with Ghana and beating a highly ranked Serbian outfit. Rather than dwell on the fact that we are not progressing through the group stage, Australian football is certainly in a better place than it was four years ago.
Crafty, shrewd and intelligent management were the key ingredients to success in Germany. This was coupled with a team full of enthusiasm, and a tidal wave of support from a nation that thrives on being the underdog.
The World Cup was something so foreign to Australians, we were proud of our boys however they performed, content with the achievement of beating Uruguay to qualify, and considering anything else a bonus. Now that four years have passed, and our road to the finals seemed rather effortless in comparison to previous campaigns, the tidal wave of support had turned into a tidal wave of expectation.
Suddenly, everyone is a football expert, and our national team is expected to magically defeat countries with talent pools double and triple the size of ours.
The All Whites qualified, and were given little to no chance of progressing through the group stages. They were grouped with a hand full of other nations as the tournaments easy beats.
Haven’t they proved the critics and football aficionados wrong.
A side thriving with enthusiasm, and supported by a management team able to inspire and instill confidence into a group of men who were expected to be back home quicker than you can say “fush and chups”.
The Kiwi’s have played world-class football, unlucky not to snare a victory against Italy – who seem to have a knack of ripping the heart out of Australasian opponents. Despite not progressing through the group stages, New Zealand as a nation will be satisfied, the players will return content and confident, ready to prepare and build a team that can take the leap to the next level.
This is where it’ll get nasty.
There underdog status has been beneficial up until now, however, will quickly transform into expectation. Football will grow in New Zealand, profiles will rise, salaries increase, and pressure heaped on players to perform now that they’ve shown that this football caper isn’t that hard after all.
I can’t help but emphasise that four years down the track, the All Whites are going to be a much more experienced and confident side. Players will gain greater skill and knowledge in Europe, development of younger players will excel after tons of money is poured into a sport that can captivate a nation.
I predict the All Whites ability will be somewhat similar to that of the current Socceroos, although, as a nation improves and progresses – particularly those younger countries in the southern hemisphere – so to do the hopes and aspirations of their supporters, who thought the rugby World Cup was all that mattered.
They’ve proved they can stick it to the big guns, they want more, and so do the fans.
Australia has provided them with a team in the A-League. Perhaps that one team will have increased in four years. Fans will be thinking, “if we’ve been able to achieve all this after having only one professional team, then we should definitely be capable of more next time round.” It can be assumed that with football booming across the ditch, little brother will continue to follow the path forged by their more experienced rivals.
The honeymoon period after the World Cup will come to an end, expectations will continue to rise before they begin to simmer, as boiling point approaches tensions will intensify. Lets hope Ricky Herbert’s ready for journey ahead, the Kiwis will soon realise this whole World Cup thing isn’t that easy after all.
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June 25th 2010 @ 6:14am
Socboy said | June 25th 2010 @ 6:14am | Report comment
New Zealanders are proud of our boys and they will return as Heros,
No one ever rated them a chance not even most people on the Australian side of the ditch and especially here at the roar. Many didn’t even think NZ were worthy opponents for the Socceroos pre world cup.
World Media and crictics have lauded the All Whites and their courageous effort at this world cup and causing arguably one of the biggest upsets in WC history by holding the Current WC holders to a 1-1 draw.
New Zealand a country ranked just 78 in the world are leaving this world cup undefeated who would have thought that was possible?
New Zealanders have never said this World Cup is easy it has been the likes of yourself that have said it is easy, so it would help if you actually picked your words more carefully, because unintentionally or not you are insinuating that Kiwis think it was a peace of cake.
The All Whites and New Zealand understand what a mammoth task they have just endured and they played well above what anyone could ever imagine.
They played for themselves, their families and their country New Zealand!
We’re very proud of our boys 3 points at a world cup and undefeated against all the odds and expectations even that of our closest neighbour!!
June 25th 2010 @ 9:27am
Al said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Inspirational campaign by the Kiwis, finish without losing a game and ahead of Italy. I wish they would have tried to attack a bit more last night however the Paraguayans really did stifle them when they got the ball. Another incredibly solid and discplined defensive effort against one of the most attacking teams in the tournament. They’ve not only done their country proud but over here in Australia they’ve done our league proud. Top effort lads, dissappointed but exceptionally happy that they defied all the odds, they’ve put New Zealand on the world footballing map.
June 25th 2010 @ 9:48am
DaMan3000 said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I agree with you Al that it would have been good to see some more attack from NZ but for the first 80 mins Paraguay pressed up with 3 defenders whenever we got the ball which I can imagine would have been very frustrating!
I really rate Paraguay and think they could have been a bit of a dark horse – Japan probably won’t give them too many troubles but facing Brazil in a 1/4′s will make short work of them.
Well done AW’s I’m proud of you!
June 25th 2010 @ 10:06am
Al said | June 25th 2010 @ 10:06am | Report comment
Paraguay beat Brazil in CONMEBOL qualification so they’re a chance against them.
I hope the Kiwis now really get involved in football, I hope they start supporting the Phoenix even more, start playing the game themselves, setting up junior leagues for their kids and I hope their federation sets up friendlies against bigger nations regularly and don’t rest on this campaign, they should really start putting in place the grassroots foundations so the sport only grows even more.
June 25th 2010 @ 10:21am
Paddy Kilmurray said | June 25th 2010 @ 10:21am | Report comment
I wonder how this would effect rugby in New Zealand? I suppose most people haven’t really had much of an alternative in recent years with the Phoenix probably being the countries youngest professional team, people are still adjusting to football. Would be great to see them get a team in the south, and maybe one in Auckland. It would give league a run for its money I reckon.
June 25th 2010 @ 7:45pm
Andrew Nichols said | June 25th 2010 @ 7:45pm | Report comment
Rugger will continue to have major advantages over soccer here.
The NZRFU controlsthe players availabilty the ABs play the best competitions and tests against the top nations in the world on a regular basis home and away and the kids can meet their heroes in the same town. whereas
The clubs overseas own the soccer boys and restrict their availabilty, the A League is an enthusiastic but 3rd tier feeder of players to the real competitions in the UK and Europe, NZ is too far away for major nations to want to come here in their international windows and the kids cant meet the stars like Nelsen because they live overseas.
The NZ media bandwagon cant help trying to run down rugger while praising the soccer boys. It all seems very PC to do so.
June 25th 2010 @ 9:40am
Chop said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
I think the kiwis are drug cheats
June 25th 2010 @ 9:49am
MarkR said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:49am | Report comment
Wow, condescending much ?
June 25th 2010 @ 9:54am
Pete said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:54am | Report comment
Undefeated yes.. but nor did they beat anyone… at least the Aussies claimed one scalp
In all seriousness, well done NZ. The Italy game was brilliant to watch.
June 25th 2010 @ 10:44am
Socboy said | June 25th 2010 @ 10:44am | Report comment
The difference between the teams Pete is Australia were expected to advance and lets get real here they failed to meet expectations. New Zealand also beat Serbia although pre world cup.
New Zealand on the other hand were expected to get absolutely thumped in every single match, many here at the roar didn’t even think they were worthy opponents for the Socceroos.
NZ ranked 78th in the world drawing with the Current WC holders ranked 5th in the world.
Not to mention well earned draws against the Group topping 31st ranked Paraguayans, and the 34th ranked Slovakia is a phenomenal effort in anybody’s language.
The closet team in rankings was still a massive 44 places higher than The All Whites.
The biggest gap for Australia was 12 rankings points.
When you put everything into perspective this campaign has been a phenomenal success for New Zealand football. They maybe did not win a game but they were not beaten either unlike some teams who were on the end of some good old fashioned hidings.
June 25th 2010 @ 11:50am
SamSport said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:50am | Report comment
I don’t think Australia were expected to advance. Germany was expected to, and Serbia are ranked higher than Australia.
June 25th 2010 @ 11:58am
Pete said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:58am | Report comment
Socboy, its all fun and games. You don’t have to justify that the All Whites did well, I enjoyed their run.
June 25th 2010 @ 12:13pm
Socboy said | June 25th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Yes it is fun and games Pete and NZ did it against the odds
June 25th 2010 @ 1:29pm
AA said | June 25th 2010 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
Scoboy why even compare what Australia’s and New Zealand’s expectations were, we all knew Australia had a tough group. IF they had got out of the group they would have done well, but this years’ World up was always conditional on group performance first.
Another useless, irrrelevant comparison for the sake of it, purely designed to pump up your tyres for no valid reason.
To the Rar editors, can’t we set up a http://www.theroar.co.nz site and let the Kiwi’s post there? I’m sick of reading their useless over-competitive drivel. If they don’t like us, then we’ll campaign to kick their sporting teams out of our competitions.
Enough of these wannabe peasants.
June 25th 2010 @ 9:59am
betty b said | June 25th 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
well done kiwis – three points ain’t bad.
June 25th 2010 @ 10:42am
Republican said | June 25th 2010 @ 10:42am | Report comment
The inevitable comparisons between the two nations ensue –
Soccer is a difficult sporting disipline in gauging any class disparities between contesting nations – in my opinion. The NZ v Paraguay game certainly exposed this.
The South American side seemed by all accounts, to be saving themselves for the next round and hardly got out of first gear. In fact had they lost it would have made little to no difference to their campaign unlike the Kiwis who had much to play for.
NZ were ordinary considering the stakes but hey, they were expected to be cannon fodder by most wheras they can be more than proud of their efforts throughout their WC campaign.
Australia were sweet and sour in their performance and dramatically so. They will be ruing that first game v Germany, especially having a player less on the paddock for so long at this level of competition. I think they did show through their final victory as well as glimpses in their game v Ghana, that they can rise to the occassion in being a class act – but then I am no Soccer officiado.
NZ were the better side in their friendly V Oz by all accounts, despite losing, so to be fair, there is little to naught between the two re. national soccer prowess. I surmise in NZ, being a smaller nation with less professional players to draw on, are superior than Oz in the roond ball game.
More power to them I say.
Cheers
June 25th 2010 @ 11:53am
SamSport said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:53am | Report comment
You say Paraguay were saving themselves. This doesn’t make sense. NZ scored a 93rd minute goal against Slovakia. Had the same thing happened against Paraguay then Slovakia and NZ would have advanced and Paraguay not. The Paraguayans will be happy with a draw, but they would have been very nervous in the last 10 minutes of the game this morning. One stuff up and they were going home.
June 27th 2010 @ 9:36am
sharminator said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Im an Aussie living in Py.
What Republican said is true. Py were saving themselves. They went into the game at the head of their group … After drawing against Italy and beating Slovakia the assumption was we could play out the draw and advance.
The reality is that even if NZ had beaten Py 1-0, Slovakia, Py and NZ would have been on equal points, and Paraguay would still have advanced on goal difference (which is the next factor if teams are equal on points).
To deny Py entry into the top 16 … NZ would have had to have won by 2 goals or more and Slovakia beaten Italy by 4 goals or more. Wasnt going to happen …
This can be seen by the resting of Lucas Barrios, one of our best attacking players, and Haedo also being taken off in the second half.
The other point is NZ never even looked like scoring. In the game Py had 17 shots on goal and NZ 4. Paraguay were playing to attack … but were not going at 100% as there was little chance they would not advance out of the group.
June 25th 2010 @ 11:45am
betty b said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:45am | Report comment
can I add the link below, in case you missed it yesterday. It’s the NY Times game analyser, and gives a good view of stats and field play (use both map and table to right), Bertos look good in stats.
http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/24/world-cup-live-paraguay-vs-new-zealand/
good to see the kiwis crowing – deservedly so.
June 25th 2010 @ 11:52am
Harvey the Scouser said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:52am | Report comment
hard to take seriously any football analysis prepared by someone called Chuck Culpepper
June 25th 2010 @ 11:54am
BRIAN b said | June 25th 2010 @ 11:54am | Report comment
hard to take seriously any comment prepared by someone called Harvey the Scouser
June 25th 2010 @ 1:06pm
Spencer said | June 25th 2010 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
It’s the Brian and Betty show!
I wonder if Chuck Culpepper is his real name?
June 25th 2010 @ 3:52pm
Harvey the Scouser said | June 25th 2010 @ 3:52pm | Report comment
you cut me to the core
its one for Chuck
June 25th 2010 @ 12:37pm
Paddy Kilmurray said | June 25th 2010 @ 12:37pm | Report comment
Hmmm, not convinced on Bertos. He had plenty of touches mainly because they targeted his flank.
June 25th 2010 @ 2:25pm
Ivanhoe said | June 25th 2010 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
Nice link betty. Thanks.
June 25th 2010 @ 12:42pm
David V. said | June 25th 2010 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Before the World Cup we saw doom and gloom merchants say NZ would be whipping boys and possibly the worst team in the World Cup. They proved to be anything but, putting in one of the bravest, most phenomenal efforts ever seen to go undefeated.
Look at the squad. It’s not the worst to have played in a World Cup and has players who play or have played at a decent level like Nelsen and Vicelich, and those whose talents are perhaps capable of a higher level like Smeltz and Bertos. They even got part-timer Andy Barron (one of the best players in the NZFC) to come on v Italy.
They deserve a hero’s welcome when they return home.
June 25th 2010 @ 12:50pm
Socboy said | June 25th 2010 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
Going by the NZ Herald, there could be a parade on the cards albeit it a Month away
June 25th 2010 @ 1:31pm
AA said | June 25th 2010 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
That’s a celebration of mediocrity if ever I’ve seen one.
June 25th 2010 @ 2:39pm
Simon Smith said | June 25th 2010 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
Hey Scoboy, if it wasn’t for the FFA New Zealand wouldn’tbe where it is today, show some credit on here or nick off.
June 26th 2010 @ 8:25am
Socboy said | June 26th 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
How about you show some respect,
Your pathetic rant is absolutely ludicrous.
June 25th 2010 @ 3:16pm
betty b said | June 25th 2010 @ 3:16pm | Report comment
ignore the comments socboy. Kiwis deserve to celebrate. But I think now fans will expect you there (at WC) every time – if you don’t qualify in 14 there will be a massive outcry at home. Will NZFA take some action to consolidate – more int’l games, buy a coach (works, but not guaranteed), poach a few more kiwis from abroad?
June 25th 2010 @ 12:45pm
Republican said | June 25th 2010 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
Sam Sport
I thought Paraguay were undefeated and on top of their group, so even a loss would have meant they’d have moved through to the next round.
I apologise if I am incorrect however the commentry I have heard on the game today stated that the South Americans were not pushed at all and if anything were saving themselves for the more intense second round of this WC in playing for a safe draw.
Whatever the case, NZ are clearly not in their class, despite the score board but that’s Soccer. It is highly likely that the final will be determined by a penalty shoot out, which affords any weaker side who has managed to come this far, a great opportunity to lift the global games WC – and that is also Soccer.
Make of it what you will.
Cheers
June 27th 2010 @ 9:42am
sharminator said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Exactly … as I said above, Py beat Slovakia … the only non draw in the group .. so in the last games, if Py lost to NZ and Slovakia beat Italy .. all 3 would have been equal on points. To deny Py entry into the top 16 … NZ would have had to have won by 2 goals or more and Slovakia to have beaten Italy by 4 goals or more (their goal difference was bad from losing to Py). It wasnt going to happen …
On CNN here the other day they were saying that Paraguay´s 17 shots on goal is actually some type of record. NZ´s only had 4 half chances. Py had a lot of shots but weren´t putting in 100% to define the goal …
With final 16 qualification all but guaranteed Py were in cruise control ..