Why Italians, and Aussies, dive in football
By Davidde Corran, 27 Jun 2010 Davidde Corran is a Roar Expert
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Australia's Lucas Neill, bottom, trips Italy's Fabio Grosso in the penalty box during the last minutes of the Australia vs Italy Round of 16 World Cup soccer match at Fritz Walter Stadium in Kaiserslautern, Germany, Monday, June 26, 2006. Italy was awarded a penalty and won the match 1-0. AP Photo/Kevork Djansezian
As Kamil Kopunek scored Slovakia’s third goal to make the seemingly impossible inevitable, FIFA’s commentator on the international feed declared that Italy were going out of the World Cup in “disgrace”. It was a piece of hyperbole that I took umbrage with as, in my opinion, there’s no disgrace in simply losing.
It’s how you do so that defines such a loss.
Otherwise Australia went out in disgrace as well, and we all know that’s simply not true.
However, some are arguing that because of their playacting and diving antics, Italy’s tournament exit is in fact a shameful one. Certainly that’s the opinion a lot of Australians are taking.
There’s no doubt about it, some of the behaviour we’ve seen from the Azzurri in this tournament goes against the concept of “fair play” that Australians believe in so adamantly.
I get asked a lot of questions about Italian football and these very issues but there’s one thing that I’m rarely asked: why do Italians dive?
The answer is it’s a cultural thing and not just at a sporting level but socially as well.
As John Foot wrote in his exceptional history of Italian football “Calcio”, when playing football Italians “dive, appeal for throw-ins after clearly kicking the ball out, crash to the ground screaming with pain when they have not been touched, try sneaky handballs. They also complain, constantly, about everything. Football games, like prison riots, are ‘essentially contested’.”
In other words, winning fairly is a secondary notion that comes way behind the importance of simply winning.
This might seem a little hard to grasp, all the more so if you’ve never lived in Italy, so let me put it into another context.
In Sicily there is a popular saying that roughly translates into: “Whatever you want to do, you do.”
That idea is responsible for why you so often see cars triple parked along busy Sicilian roads.
If you’re Italian and you see some space along the side of a road, and you’re in a car looking for a park, and your car fits that space, then it’s a “car park”.
For various social and political reasons in Italy, rules and laws often hold little traction.
Now, I’m neither arguing for nor against this sort of behaviour, but it’s important to understand the cultural reasons before you criticise the behaviour of a different country’s players.
It’s also worth remembering that Italy isn’t alone in supplying this World Cup with its share of gamesmanship. Plenty of sides have been guilty of similar acts including Slovakia, Brazil, Serbia, Germany and, guess what, Australia.
There was a moment in the Socceroos’ final group game when Luke Wilkshire was clipped by a Serbian player and flung himself to the ground. After rolling along the ground in “pain” for a while, the Dynamo Moscow player realised the referee wasn’t going to pay a free-kick and got back onto his feet.
It might not be on the same scale as some of our opponents, but Australians dive to.
So if it’s so despised at home, why do Socceroos play act?
I suspect it’s because everyone else does. How many times in the past have you heard guys like Harry Kewell saying, “We have to be smarter,”?
The thing is Kewell is wrong. One of Australia’s greatest assets is the “Aussie spirit” and being “smarter”, also known as cheating, goes against that very notion.
English football is, and arguably always has been, filled with all these sorts of gamesmanship problems. Yet for a long time European football has looked up to that English spirit of fair play and admired it.
It’s a pedestal Australian football should be looking to climb up on to. It’s far too easy to take the low road, and all the more less satisfying.
When Fabio Grosso hit the deck against Australia a nation mourned being felled by such cheating. The Italian left-back admitted as much to me almost four years later.
Unfortunately even now on all we hear about is how an Italian dived. Not how Tim Cahill didn’t close down Francesco Totti, allowing him to spot Fabio Grosso one on one with an out of position Mark Bresciano. Nor do we hear complaints that when Grosso turned Bresciano, Lucas Neill did the one thing a defender shouldn’t and go to ground in the penalty box.
I guess it’s far easier to focus on the mistakes of others than your own.
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June 27th 2010 @ 10:21am
Roger Rational said | June 27th 2010 @ 10:21am | Report comment
This article is wrong-headed. I’ll make two points:
1. It may be Italy’s “culture” to cheat, but that doesn’t make it any less reprehensible. Some cultures, I’m afraid, are less worthy of respect than others. (But no, the Italians aren’t the worst – Portugal and Brazil beat them hands down in the slyness stakes).
2. Why on earth put the onus on Kewell, or Australia, or England, not to cheat when clearly it ought to be the responsibility of the governing body, FIFA, to uphold the spirit of fair play? It’s true that the English and Australians have obviously decided “if you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em” – but the blame for this lies with FIFA, who have stubbornly refused to do anything about diving for decades.
Let’s remind ourselves just how efficiently FIFA stamped out tackles from behind, or the use of elbows when heading: they issued an edict and then ruthlessly enforced it. Why haven’t they been so ruthless with respect to diving? Could it be, perhaps, that FIFA – largely composed of sleazy mittel-European bureaucrats who could have stepped straight out of an Ian Fleming novel – identifies with the diving culture? And identifies rather less with the robust but honest traditions of northern European sport?
It comes down to leadership. The IOC under the excellent Jacques Rogge has it. Fifa under Blatter does not.
June 28th 2010 @ 2:40am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:40am | Report comment
Hi Roger Rational,
I haven’t, and am not, putting the onus on Harry Kewell. The guy has enough on his plate as it is me thinks.
Point is Kewell and other Australian players are wrong when they say we should be more “cunning”.
June 27th 2010 @ 11:35am
sheek said | June 27th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
There’s a lot more downtime during a cricket match, so you can understand fielders especially & bowlers occupying their time to distract the batsman. Helps pass the time quicker if nothing else…..
I was given good advice by a rugby coach back in my teens. Basically, if you’ve got enough time to be bad-mouthing the opposition, then you can’t be concentrating too hard on your own job. Some players are capable of giving both lip & playing well, they thrive on it. But most of us should just stick to the job at hand.
Which extends in football to staying on your feet as often as possible, & as best as possible.
June 27th 2010 @ 12:23pm
NY said | June 27th 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
There is an unwritten rule in the football world that when a player of the opposing team goes down, that the ball should be put out of play and then handed back (to the team who put the ball out of play). It is meant to be a rule to encourage good sportsmanship (11v11 at all times), but the gamesmanship now involved has made it a joke. This morning I saw the USA break this rule as it was obvious the Ghana player was faking injury. I felt it justified.
FIFA definitely should crack down on diving, and suspend players through video after the incident. A player diving during a game would no doubt have a long nervous wait after the game. This would make them think twice about diving in future. I agree at the moment that FIFA are spineless, and perhaps should review cheating and gamesmanship as strenuosly as they view foul and thuggish play.
June 27th 2010 @ 12:19pm
Mick said | June 27th 2010 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
I liked the way Australia tried to con the referee by pointing to the video screen after the Kewell handball.
If any referee saw the screen they would of given a penalty & a red card which is what the referee had given but on Fox Sports News the next day they made out that Australia had been ripped off by the Italian referee.
June 27th 2010 @ 1:47pm
Andyroo said | June 27th 2010 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
Well there have been other handballs for shots on goal at this tournament that weren’t given so I don’t see how your so black and white on it.
June 27th 2010 @ 4:40pm
Mister Football said | June 27th 2010 @ 4:40pm | Report comment
For those interested, the Sicilian expression is:
Zoccu voi fari, poi fari
Which reminds me of a few more Sicilian expressions that are relevant to the topic at hand, and which are far, far more colourful than that, and which use the verb fari , to do.
Fàrisi malatu – to pretend to be ill – could well describe the Italians on-field behaviour
Fari u sceccu nta lu linzolu – literally to be like a donkey in between the sheets, meaning to play dumb – pretty much the way everyone reacts to a red card, who? me?
Zoccu hai di fari, fallu prestu – if you have something to do, do it quickly, could be used as a lesson learned in response to how Pim approached game 3.
June 27th 2010 @ 8:47pm
Fauntleroy said | June 27th 2010 @ 8:47pm | Report comment
You know this article is off the mark when it needs to use Sicilian expressions to explain the broader Italian attitude. They sit to the absolute extreme of Machiavellian pragmatism, and it is unfair to transfer these to the entire national character. So that seems very opportunistic by the author. Otherwise, a sound article.
I am absolutely amazed that, on the basis of this tournament alone, we are once again chastising the Italians for behaviour which has been manifested by other countries to a much more frequent and sinister art. But I guess the Australian public has made their decision on this – it is now unalterable, indestructable and beyond all sense of relativity. Absolutely all objectivity is gone and every single free kick and penalty awarded to an Italian player, most of which will be absolutely legitimate, will be viewed with misplaced suspicion and disgust by the Australian football commentariat. Nothing they can do about that now.
But the important thing is this article seeks to remove our obsession with Italian football and focus on our own. Hallelujah! Whilst the article seeks to equate Italy’s footballing culture with its broader psyche (I think such analysis is simplistic and frought with danger by the way), it does so equally for Australian culture – that is, to always blame someone else. We have been robbed so many times, in so many sports and by so many countries, on wonders how we continue to muster the courage to compete at all.
The response to grosso’s “dive” in 2006 was predictable, but our lingering obsession with it is frankly, sad. I heard Francis Leach this morning talk about how a group of Socceroos fans actually made the effort to go to the stadium for the Italy v Slovakia game, dress up in goggles and “diving suits” and heckle Italian fans. Sounds funny, if not obsessional. Problem was, the Italian fans had no idea what they were on about. And I can’t imagine they would. Maybe that’s their own ignorance and single-sightedness, but on our part, is just bloody sad.
June 28th 2010 @ 2:53am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:53am | Report comment
Mister Football thanks for sharing those gems.
Fauntleroy, I’m a bit to unwell (mid World Cup cold) to reply to your interesting points in depth but once my head is more screwed I’ll definately have to.
June 27th 2010 @ 4:43pm
Stephen Smith said | June 27th 2010 @ 4:43pm | Report comment
I hate diving as much as the next person – and the onus is on FIFA to get rid of it, but for some reason they seem loathe to take a firm stand on it. That’s probably because – as outlined in the article – in many countries it is not seen as cheating, but seeking to gain a competitive advantage, and there are too many votes for them to lose in trying to change it.
Personally, I think FFA got it right when introducing a rule whereby retrospective video evidence could be used to punish those guilty of simulation. Sadly it has never been tested, because Arsenal set a precedent when challenging Eduardo’s red card for a blatant dive during a Champions League game…and won! That paragon of virtue Arsene Wenger(who never sees anything bad his side has done, but always sees the other teams flaws), ensured FFA’s attempt to ensure fair play was dead in the water before it began.
However, my point remains the Aussies are just as guilty in teh gamesmanship stakes in sport as anyone else – or have we all forgotten the underarm ball, the aluminium bat, and the sledging that as dasilva points out, is against the rulees of cricket?
June 27th 2010 @ 5:02pm
Mister Football said | June 27th 2010 @ 5:02pm | Report comment
The diving, the theatrics, the simulation, it makes it all quite unwatchable and reduces soccer to the level of World Championship Wrestling in terms of being serious sport.
Next thing you know we’ll be handing out the World Cup to a team that wins a little side activity AFTER the game has actually finished.
June 27th 2010 @ 6:49pm
Dogs Of War said | June 27th 2010 @ 6:49pm | Report comment
It happens in Australian sports as well. It’s just that Soccer has it mastered to an art, not to mention that it’s frowned upon in Australian society. Paul Gallen and his wink a few years ago after staying down and getting straight up after the penalty was awarded was a classic example, and although I don’t follow Aussie Rules, I am sure they too have had there fair share of fakers trying to get an advantage on the field.
June 27th 2010 @ 7:37pm
dasilva said | June 27th 2010 @ 7:37pm | Report comment
The difference is that in Australia we call it cheating
Other countries they don’t even recognised as cheating.
They call it furbizia (art of guile), street smart, clever etc. they see deceiving the referee as a romanticised version of disobeying authority. Sort of sticking it up to the man.
So whilst other codes that has cheating but exist in countries with similar cultures. There’s generally condemnation of that behaviour
In Football, let just say Maradona handball a goal and now he is a deity. In fact the “Hand Of God” arguably added to his legacy not detracted from it in the eyes of many people.
I don’t blame people to be put off and be disgusted about it.
Also with Football, people who cheat, video caught them red handed in the act. FIFA then refuses to suspend them from retrospective video evidence (I have always advocated for in game video referee but post game suspension using video evidence would be good step in the right direction). Essentially the game is saying that if you cheat and you don’t get caught. EVerything is fine.
Other sports will used video evidence and then suspend them for bringing the game to disrepute.
Really Football’s credibility is being damage by the lack of real leadership from FIFA. .
July 2nd 2010 @ 9:39am
ajb said | July 2nd 2010 @ 9:39am | Report comment
I agree 100% being someone who PLAYS the game in australia.. I can say it doesn’t happen at this level. It just doesn’t happen. It it something which exists and needs to be eradicated from the professional game. Simply put, we need more NON PUSSY Europeans joining/leading FIFA.
June 27th 2010 @ 7:57pm
The Special One said | June 27th 2010 @ 7:57pm | Report comment
Believe me if the Italians played Australian football, they would be doing the same theatrics along with the brazilians the chinese, Ronaldo etc.
Its not the game that makes them dive all over the place, but the culture of the people that do it.
June 27th 2010 @ 5:10pm
Mister Football said | June 27th 2010 @ 5:10pm | Report comment
At the end of the day, it’s just a game, and one we can all enjoy with some merriment.
Here’s a clip showing some of the very best dives and ham actors of all time:
June 27th 2010 @ 6:26pm
Pete said | June 27th 2010 @ 6:26pm | Report comment
MF you said that the diving turns you off the game. That You tube clip was hilarious, I’ve watched it twice!
June 27th 2010 @ 7:02pm
Mister Football said | June 27th 2010 @ 7:02pm | Report comment
Pete
it gets better with each viewing.
My favourites are the ones at the end, where two players, and in another a player and manager, are in each other’s faces, one makes a slight move, and they both go down simultaneously as if they have been absolutely smashed in the face.
That’s actually even better than acting, if you were filming that in a movie, you’d spend weeks trying to get the two protaganists to throw themselves back at precisely the right moment.
On some level, it deserves applause and wide acclaim.
June 27th 2010 @ 8:41pm
Pete said | June 27th 2010 @ 8:41pm | Report comment
I have no idea how any of those guys can show their face in public!
June 27th 2010 @ 7:56pm
Adrian said | June 27th 2010 @ 7:56pm | Report comment
Davidde – At first I thought here we again… another jab at the Italians for Australia’s loss. Please! However, I took a deep breath and read on. And, I was so glad I did. I was living in Australia four years ago, and at the time I mentioned that Lucas did one of the most basic mistakes that most football nations teach their kids at a very early age – as a defender, do NOT go down in the penalty area. Well, I mentioned that to my Australian friends…. I could tell they didn’t understand what I was saying. And, yes I admit I don’t understand the finer points of cricket and AFL. However, football IS a world sport.
Glad there is some understanding of the game.
June 28th 2010 @ 2:49am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:49am | Report comment
Thanks Adrian, glad to know others agree with me.
June 27th 2010 @ 9:12pm
Art Sapphire said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:12pm | Report comment
Davidde – Your introduction to this piece is all wrong. You should have used some other example.
When the commentator said that the “Italians were going out of the tournament in disgrace”, he was correct.
It has nothing to do with the way they play and everything to do with the reigning champions failing to get out of an easy group. If that is not disgraceful, I don’t what is.
If you took umbrage to this description then you must be a very sensitive flower
The ensuing Italian press reaction made what the commentator said seem all the more reasonable.
Here are a few examples.
“One of our ugliest national teams ever, actually, the ugliest ever.”
“The aircraft called shame is ready to leave,”
“We were champions of the world and now we are the laughing stock of the world.”
Franco Arturi, the vice-director of Gazzetta dello Sport said “it is hard to imagine a greater sporting catastrophe,”
Finally, in regards to the gist of your article. There’s gamesmanship in every code. Its just that the gamesmanship you highlight in football looks foreign to so called Australian “macho attitudes”. End of story.
Enjoy the rest of the World Cup.
June 27th 2010 @ 9:38pm
dasilva said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:38pm | Report comment
Yeah, it reminds me of my previous article I’ve written
Australia don’t cheat less then other nations. We cheat differently
Instead of diving and play acting
We are more likely to abuse and criticised referees and more likely to be overphysical with past players known for dangerous leg-breaking tackles
Unfortunately our ‘culture’ makes this more socially acceptable form of cheating
How often people defends Muscat’s antics by saying “It’s part of the game”
Very similar to the divers apologist don’t you think?
June 28th 2010 @ 2:48am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:48am | Report comment
Art Sapphire, I simply don’t think it’s disgraceful for ANY team to lose, whether they were World Champions four years ago or not. All the more so when that side is as poor as Italy’s was. The only people who seem to be truly surprised by this are non-Italians.
If any team has left this tournament in disgrace it is France and for entirely non-football reasons. A claim that can’t be put on Italy.
The Italian media’s response is a reflection of the bubbling issues amongst the game in Italy. Italians have been trying to fight off embarrassment at the state of calcio for some time now and it all culminated in this loss.
Dasilva, more great points.
June 28th 2010 @ 10:18am
Art Sapphire said | June 28th 2010 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Davidde – I and most of the Italian press beg to differ.
Even a “poor” Italy should be good enough to make it out of an easy group.
The last 20 minutes against Slovakia was plenty proof of that.
Lazy manager, wrong tactics, poor player selection, bad psychology = World Cup Shame
June 27th 2010 @ 9:24pm
Glen said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:24pm | Report comment
“I get asked a lot of questions about Italian football and these very issues but there’s one thing that I’m rarely asked: why do Italians dive?
The answer is it’s a cultural thing and not just at a sporting level but socially as well.”
Bad, bad excuse.
I fully understand that social problems such as female genital mutilation, stoning, hari-kari, honour killings, public executions, organ harvesting, whaling, head-hunting (still practiced in very remote parts of Papua), etc are a completely different kettle of fish in terms of importance, but they are also all “cultural and social things”
Being a social or cultural “thing” doesn’t make it OK.
Just a thought!
June 27th 2010 @ 9:31pm
dasilva said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:31pm | Report comment
Exactly
Sometimes respecting “cultural differences” can go way too far.
Culture only explains why something happens but it can never be a justification.
Once people put culture on a pedestal as something that is beyond criticism then society never changes or improves.
June 28th 2010 @ 2:43am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:43am | Report comment
dasilva, I agree with you completely.
June 28th 2010 @ 2:43am
Davidde Corran said | June 28th 2010 @ 2:43am | Report comment
Glen, I realise that it doesn’t make it OK. That’s why I put this line into my piece:
“Now, I’m neither arguing for nor against this sort of behaviour, but it’s important to understand the cultural reasons before you criticise the behaviour of a different country’s players.”
June 27th 2010 @ 9:27pm
Melanie Dinjaski said | June 27th 2010 @ 9:27pm | Report comment
You’re right, far, far FAR easier.
But how was Neill’s dive against Serbia? Brilliant effort that.
Fact still remains though, that Australia’s Socceroos still don’t dive to the extent of the Italians (or many other European, South American, African teams), who as you say, have a long standing culture which means its ingrained in their play.