Why the AFL needs State of Origin
By Michael DiFabrizio, 1 Jul 2010 Michael DiFabrizio is a Roar Expert
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- AFL, AFL state of origin, Buddy Franklin, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett, Matthew Pavlich, Michael Barlow

Matthew Lloyd for Victoria attempts to mark in front of Sean Wellman for South Australia during the State of Origin AFL match between Victoria and South Australia at the Melbourne Cricket Ground in Melbourne on May 29, 1999. Slattery Images
In the past, this time of year we’d be discussing State of Origin football. We’d be discussing which players were worthy of pulling on the Big V. We’d be discussing who’ll be lining up for the Croweaters or Sandgropers.
Sadly, those days are gone.
We aren’t discussing Michael Barlow’s Victorian debut. We aren’t discussing Buddy Franklin booting goals for Western Australia, or Matthew Pavlich booting goals for South Australia. We aren’t discussing Chris Judd and Gary Ablett playing alongside each other.
Recently, however, the AFL did manage to re-open the door to Origin football. As part of their consultation with supporters over changes to the fixture, one of the options the league presented included staging representative football during the pre-season.
It shows that the AFL are certainly open to the idea.
Players, too, have come out backing the return of Origin. Judd and Nick Maxwell, both club captains, earlier in the year called for Origin to replace the NAB Cup. A number of other players, Jonathan Brown among them, made similar noises around the time of the Hall of Fame Tribute Match in 2008.
Bringing back Origin makes a lot of sense. In fact, in this age of expansion – not just in the number of teams, but the number of games, too – it seems like a perfect idea for the AFL.
The concern, though, is what happened to Origin in its latter years. And to be fair, when you look back on those years, it’s not that hard to understand why it had to come to an end.
The move to a national competition took a lot of the heat out of state rivalries. South Australian fans could all of the sudden cheer on their boys against the Victorians week in, week out. Ditto West Australian fans.
Then there were issues relating to the loyalty of players, with club often taking priority over state. Holding the event annually and mid-season was a recipe for disaster in this respect.
But as I’ve written before, those two excuses are no longer valid when you fast forward to today and, while doing so, simply learn from the mistakes of the past.
South Australia and Western Australia have moved on from the days where their State of Origin sides were comprised almost fully of players from Adelaide and West Coast. Gone are the days of those clubs holding a 100 per cent market share in their respective states, too.
The player loyalty issue is where the learning from the past comes in. Back in the day, players wanted to represent their state, but to be continually asked to do it year after year took its toll. Missing an Origin game, for those who’d already played in one, became not such a big deal – especially if they were carrying a niggling injury or had a concerned club in their ear.
Holding any Origin matches during the pre-season – or even after the season’s finished, à la International Rules and overseas exhibition games – is a must. And only every second or third year.
After that, there should be little room for concern.
Yet the AFL are still reluctant. It’s mindboggling, especially when you consider the potential bringing back Origin has.
The league right now are considering all sorts of options to bring about more broadcast dollars. Tonight it’s Thursday night football. Earlier in the year it was Monday night football. They’ve thrown up a 24-round season, a 10-team finals series, you name it.
Origin would add to the list of games it can take to television networks. And if it works and fans can’t get enough of it – which would have to happen if managed right – then that just opens up even more broadcast dollars down the track.
And of course, there’s another element to Origin footy that would add to the game, albeit a less tangible one.
It’s called having a true form of representative football.
There’s just something about bringing together rival fans and players and having them all on the one side. There’s something about seeing the best of the best on the park at the one time. There’s something about giving fans of clubs low on the ladder something else to cheer about.
International Rules, even when played regularly, doesn’t quite fill such a void. But Origin does.
Just picture it. Picture Adam Cooney grabbing the ball in the midfield and setting up Pavlich for an easy set shot. Picture Judd handpassing to Ablett, who sends it forward to Brown, who dishes it off to Stephen Milne or Steve Johnson.
Picture it all and then ask yourself whether the AFL should bring back State of Origin or not.
Surely, it’s time.
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July 1st 2010 @ 11:06am
Gob Bluth said | July 1st 2010 @ 11:06am | Report comment
I find it interesting the way that people either claim the SOO concept in rugby league is dead and pointless..or its so good other codes should replicate it.
July 1st 2010 @ 12:57pm
Baz35 said | July 1st 2010 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
Who calls it dead and pointless? Has anybody?
Only the weak of intellect fight straw men!
July 1st 2010 @ 11:15am
JF said | July 1st 2010 @ 11:15am | Report comment
RL SoO works because of the unique set of circumstances that led up to its inception, this cannot be replicated. AFL nor Rugby nor Soccer could ever replicate what SoO is, and what it means to people. It is one of the world’s great annual sporting rivalries – any attempt to replicate it would be a joke.
July 1st 2010 @ 11:27am
Redb said | July 1st 2010 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Not so much replication but resurrection.
July 1st 2010 @ 2:50pm
Michael C said | July 1st 2010 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
JF -
you do realise that VFL/AFL had ver successful SoO back in the 80s especially….that was the pinnacle of true ‘origin’……oh, except for Queenslanders playing for Victoria…….but, other than that,…….
the formation of a real national league kinda made it all too hard.
But, now, with a proper national draft, 2 sides in each of WA and SA, and a greater focus on real talent pathways/development in NSW as well as a good kick along in QLD means that something meaningful could be built that in part might resurrect (Redb’s word) something akin to the old ‘carnivals’ that used to get trotted out.
RL SoO is unique to RL. That’s fine. A 2 state affair is pretty well unique to RL. Why would that format have any influence upon Australian Football??
July 1st 2010 @ 4:55pm
Billo Boy said | July 1st 2010 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
“Why would that format have any influence upon Australian Football??”
Because the only reason that the resurection of Origin is being talked about in AFL is because of the envy you have of the NRL’s Origin series. If the NRL didn;t have a successful Origin series no one in AFL would be thinking of bringing it back or even believing it could even work. Not that it will work.
July 1st 2010 @ 8:48pm
Michael C said | July 1st 2010 @ 8:48pm | Report comment
mate – it’s being talked about because we miss it. Because SA and WA would no longer just be the Crows and the Eagles as they were back in the 90s when the concept became ‘tired’.
Don’t you dare presume to tell us on an AFL tab that envy of the NRL origin is the “ONLY” reason,
I don’t know if it’s a reason at all,
I’ve not thought it,
I’ve not heard it
On who’s behalf are you speaking??
July 1st 2010 @ 9:36pm
Billo Boy said | July 1st 2010 @ 9:36pm | Report comment
Tabs on the Roar are permeable. If not then there’s no point to the Roar existing. You’ve no hesitation in daring to offer your insight into my game of rugby or also on NRL and (real) football when you choose.
July 1st 2010 @ 11:26am
James said | July 1st 2010 @ 11:26am | Report comment
God Rugby League fans can be precious and I like the sport. The AFL fans want State of Origin because as an exhibition game its awesome to see the best players mixed together. Obviously the Rugby League SOO has the history and Billy Boy there is nothing to be scared of. The AFL will bring in SOO once every couple of years i’d say.
July 1st 2010 @ 11:40am
Michael DiFabrizio said | July 1st 2010 @ 11:40am | Report comment
Guys – should point out there was not one mention of rugby league or their State of Origin in the article. It was not written out of some secret desire to replicate what that sport has, as great as the rugby league Origin is. To suggest right now that the AFL can hold an Origin event that is on par with the rugby league equivalent is, let’s face it, laughable. But that’s not what is being suggested.
July 1st 2010 @ 12:10pm
BigAl said | July 1st 2010 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
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Well if that’s true Michael, the suggestion is even more ridiculous than I initially thought !
July 1st 2010 @ 1:07pm
Michael DiFabrizio said | July 1st 2010 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
BigAl, there’s no chance of a rugby league-style three-game series in the middle of the season, every season. Anything the AFL introduces would most likely not be annual, and not be mid-season for that matter. The point is, we have our own Origin history and we should be proud of it and incorporate it back into our game in some manner – be it every second year or whatever. It’s not about what another code is doing.
July 1st 2010 @ 9:39pm
Billo Boy said | July 1st 2010 @ 9:39pm | Report comment
Yeah right. So putting this forward in the middle of NRL Origin just happens to be a coincidence? It didn’t prompt your story at all? If you had raised it in December then perhaps.
July 1st 2010 @ 9:51pm
Timmuh said | July 1st 2010 @ 9:51pm | Report comment
If you look back on the roar, you will find it has come up again and again, inside and outside the footy season, with or without RL origin being in anyone’s mind at the time.
Simple fact is, many of us miss it. Its also true that there are quite a few that don’t, and that the clubs will never allow it.
July 2nd 2010 @ 1:23am
Michael DiFabrizio said | July 2nd 2010 @ 1:23am | Report comment
But there’s the thing, Billo Boy. I did raise it back around December; January to be specific. There’s a link to that article in this one.
The reason why it’s being brought up now is because the AFL have put Origin back on the agenda via their website discussing potential changes to the fixture.
As I said, rugby league’s State of Origin is great and it works brilliantly and that’s fine. But it didn’t influence this article at all. Aussie Rules has its own Origin history and that – as you can tell by reading the article, especially the first paragraph – was more of a prompt in both the articles I’ve written on the topic than anything else.
July 1st 2010 @ 12:24pm
Aka said | July 1st 2010 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
I could have sworn on another thread AFL fans were saying club football is so important to them that they are not interested in rep football.
July 1st 2010 @ 1:19pm
BigAl said | July 1st 2010 @ 1:19pm | Report comment
. . . and the general thread of responses here reflect that !
July 1st 2010 @ 12:50pm
Republican said | July 1st 2010 @ 12:50pm | Report comment
State of Origin was well supported pre the national league. The respective state leagues were healthy in those days and I certainly remember taking great interest in these clashes, especially when the big V were up gainst SA or WA.
The second Div was also well patronised, certainly in the ACT. A selection of Div two players would then be drawn to line up agianst the powerhouse states, under the banner of ‘Combined States’ which seemed to work well also.
That there has been too much H20 under the bridge to re introduce this concept – I can’t say however just because the international component to our code is missing does not mean it would not be supported.
State rivalries are fierce in all codes. I also believe that it won’t be that long before NZ, PNG and Saffa will be the O/S component to our code, lining up against Australia for international accolades anyway.
July 1st 2010 @ 1:15pm
Baz35 said | July 1st 2010 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
Far more so than rugby league, SOO is a far more likely proposition compared to internationals. Rugby League actually split first in another country it is just that the game is much stronger here than anywhere else so SOO becomes the best contest the game can offer….
If we are worried about teams from NSW/ACT and QLD being competitive (two states which have produced several of the games best players in the last decade or two) against Victoria, I don’t know which century you think that anyone is going to get with in 20 goals of Australia but I would be shocked if it is the one that has just started
If we want to harness geographic parochialism then state is more appropriate than national in the Australian game
July 1st 2010 @ 1:25pm
Republican said | July 1st 2010 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
Baz
The P.I. side entered in this years U16 NAB Championships just had a win in a scratch match, V an U18 Vic side from out Ballaratt way. Based on this they could possibly win the thing given the huge age disparity that sees their side full to the brim with18 and 19 year olds.
I reckon the I/N interest has indeed started and it’s only a matter of time before we see some form of Aust V NZ etc. parochiial fixture, contrived as that may be.
Our code is obviously quite easy to learn don’t you reckon.
Cheers
July 1st 2010 @ 2:03pm
Baz35 said | July 1st 2010 @ 2:03pm | Report comment
The game may grow internationally but there will not ever be a genuine international with australia involved in our life time
A quality (say 3 yearly) SOO carnival is already feasible. International teams may be able to enter it down the track but SOO is the only feasible representative level for our game
July 1st 2010 @ 2:28pm
Michael C said | July 1st 2010 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
Once every 3 years,
fitting inside the International Cup cycle (next one 2011).
Div 1 and Div 2
Div 1 Vic, SA, WA
Div 2 QLD, NSW, TAS,
Div 3 NT, ACT, South Pacific, World
allow P & R b/w the divisions.
Each year – a ‘carnival’ with round robin of 3 games (2 per side) in each division. Top 2 play off in Div 1. Bottom Div 1 plays Top Div 2 for Div 1 spot. Bottom Div 2 plays top div 3 for Div 2 spot.
Something like that.
Whereas International Cup is NOT for ‘expats’ and parentage eligibility – the Sth Pacific and ‘World’ side could allow the flexiblity to permit guys like Rodan, Carlise, Naitanui, Daw etc to play for the ‘international’ sides.
At very least once every 3 years otherwise out to 4 years. That means the jumper ought not be taken for granted – - and the tiers gives something to play for – - – and a 3 side Div 1 means Vic have to be at their best to account for WA and SA.
July 1st 2010 @ 4:24pm
BigAl said | July 1st 2010 @ 4:24pm | Report comment
Sounds like a HUGE black financial hole to me I’m afraid Mike !
July 1st 2010 @ 8:35pm
Michael C said | July 1st 2010 @ 8:35pm | Report comment
well, that’s the thing isn’t it – - that right now, perhaps,….however, within 10 years perhaps the NSW and QLD components are deriving interest, and perhaps with a few international born and bred players and a few more ‘exotic’ locals to join Daw and Naitanui…….who knows, a mini state/world cup??
If at least that once every 3 years means that the Big V vs SA and WA, if that can’t fire up a mostly full MCG and Subi for example……..
July 1st 2010 @ 3:18pm
The Link said | July 1st 2010 @ 3:18pm | Report comment
All Australian sports should do State of Origin, its a fantastic concept, well thought of by AFL in the 70′s and perfected by RL in the 80′s.
July 1st 2010 @ 7:10pm
Mick said | July 1st 2010 @ 7:10pm | Report comment
Used to love wagging school for Tuesday afternoon state of origin at Subi.
Nothing better than seeing the best taking on the best taking it up another level which unfortunately does not happen anymore.