Howard rejected for a number of good reasons
By Vinay Verma, 2 Jul 2010 Vinay Verma is a Roar Guru
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Politics a dirty game? Politics all about power? Consider the following quotes from Finance Minister Tanner, speaking with ABC TV on Wednesday: “I am comfortable with the Labor Party making majority decisions about its leadership. It’s a tough game. We all sign up to it knowing that sometimes things are not going to go quite as we hoped.”
“To pull out one particular example and say, ‘Oh isn’t this terrible’ … democracy is a contact sport, it always will be. The great thing is, it’s the alternative to violence for settling disputes.”
Spiro’s piece yesterday was headlined ‘Howard stabbed …’ I would suggest it was a case of Cricket Australia shooting itself in the foot.
Cricket Australia nominated the wrong man. Were they aware that as Deputy Opposition Leader in the mid 80s, he opposed sanctions against the apartheid regime in South Africa?
It is public record that Howard was at odds with Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser when Fraser refused a plane carrying Springboks to refuel in Australia. John Howard may have reinvented himself, but many in the Afro-Asian bloc remember him for what he was.
Australia’s engagement with India since the Menzies era in the 1950s has been one ranging from disinterest to calculated opportunism.
The following is an excerpt from a Foreign Affairs document relating to Kashmir: “In determining the line to follow [on Kashmir] the fundamental principle should be to cultivate Pakistan rather than India if we must make a choice.” (Mediansky 1971, p.61emphasis in original document)
The Cold War politics of the 1960s saw India aligned with Russia and Australia toeing the American line. Australia has consistently serenaded China and Japan, to the exclusion of India.
Another ‘hiccup’ in the Australia-India relationship also arose in the sphere of defence when in 1990 Australia sold 50 mothballed Mirage III jets to Pakistan during a period of heightened tension over Kashmir.
The emphasis shifted in the early 90s with India’s emergence as an economic power.
India has been too busy to worry about Australia in the last decade. But Australia’s reluctance to sell uranium to India has not won them many friends, especially as it has no reservations about selling it to China.
I only mention these so readers are aware this is not a simplistic black versus white debate.
Politics, trade, sport and economics are inextricably linked in this 21st Century. To think otherwise would be foolish.
The following is what I wrote in Inside Sport last November:
What is the style of management of this group of aged, extremely wealthy men at the helm of the BCCI? Ruthless is one word that comes to mind.
The BCCI has set about crushing its opposition, the Indian Cricket League (ICL) – a mainly Twenty20competition seen as a rebel league backed by a rival broadcast organisation.
For the last two years, the BCCI has cajoled and coaxed other boards, including Cricket Australia, to extend the restrictive trade practices to their constituents.
Shane Bond was ostracised from an already weak New Zealand team; South African players like Lance Klusener and Australians like Damien Martyn, Jason Gillespie and Michael Bevan were banned from associations with Australian cricket.
Gillespie was last year excluded from applying for a job at the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane.
Inderjit Singh Bindra ordered the removal of Kapil Dev’s portrait from the PCA Stadium pavilion in Mohali. Sri Lanka and the West Indies, both impoverished Boards, are effectively held to ransom by the BCCI.
Arjuna Ranatunga was removed from his executive post in Sri Lankan cricket because he called the IPL “instant noodles.”
Cricket Australia has been in Jack Clark’s words “in a close and good relationship with the BCCI.” I would say that for CA now to feign bewilderment is either naïve or disingenuous.
Peter Roebuck says that “CA may have overplayed their hand” and this is closer to the mark.
I have nothing but admiration for Roebuck’s continued rage against the Mugabe regime. Malcolm Speed is also justified in questioning the legitimacy of the Boards of Pakistan and Bangladesh.
However, this “power grab” by India is not an overnight development.
Cricket Australia and the ECB are not defenceless schoolboys. I would say they have stood by idly and not censured when they were justified in doing so.
This is unquestionably about power and very little about the race divide.
But to counteract that India’s power is evil or something just as sensational is to miss the point. It is history that the ICC, when Australia and England had veto power, was not exactly benevolent.
This is not any justification for India to “get square” for past grievances.
India is not immune to corruption and there is much that needs to be rectified. But to dismiss them as “third world” is to ignore one of the largest economies in the world. If Australia is so outraged then perhaps it should terminate all contact with India.
But I can assure you, that would not be contemplated. It is now about saving face.
Cricket Australia’s, and Australia’s in general, engagement with India has been on a superficial level. It has not understood the cultural and historical nuances of a country both complex and simple.
The current generation of Indians is not shackled by the “gentility” of their fathers. India is largely producing for local consumption and is less reliant on exports than China.
The French, the Italians, the Germans and Japanese have assiduously cultivated and for years strengthened their cultural and economic ties with India.
The East India Company may have robbed India of its riches but not its wealth.
Corruption and power were not invented by India. Berlusconi and Bush have enough shade of grey in their pinstripes to shame India.
This is a time for Australia to engage India in a long-term and meaningful manner. Indians generally are fully aware of the corruption in India and are not proud of it. The media in India are constantly running reports of rorts and complicity.
At least they admit it. And this is the first step in eradicating it.
This is not a time for “holier than thou” homilies. It is a time to work towards a just and lasting cricket peace, where all members are treated equally and fairly.
If India is being excessive, then tell the world about it.
India, to my mind, has been open to censure in the last two years. CA and the ECB have kept quiet. This amounts to tacit endorsement. No amount of moral or political outrage will wash with a public that is both cynical and astute.
A final memo to all cricket administrators: You are merely custodians and your brief is to leave the game better than you found it.
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Whiteline said | July 2nd 2010 @ 7:41am | Report comment
Vinay, very well written. Brilliant work….. Whiteline in a non-combative mood!
Viscount Crouchback said | July 2nd 2010 @ 7:51am | Report comment
I find this piece rather muddled and confused.
You rightly criticise the BCCI for its selfishness and megalomania but then seem to claim that the ECB and CA are just as bad because they “kept quiet”. I find this baffling. What should the ECB and CA do? Cut all ties with India? How exactly would cricket benefit from that? I find it hard to believe you would approve of such a policy.
Frankly, all this stuff about exports and Berlusconi and the Cold War and the East India Company is just risible and completely irrelevant. The fact that you even feel the need to raise this stuff betrays a rather worrying mindset. This should be a simple cricketing matter, not an excuse to re-hash 300 years of history.
You ask for “a just and lasting cricket peace, where all members are treated equally and fairly” but completely fail to understand that this is precisely the principle that the BCCI is stomping all over by rejecting Howard. The rules already provide for equality and fairness – each part of the world gets the chance to nominate a President of its choosing – but India isn’t prepared to uphold these rules. It’s that simple.
Whiteline said | July 2nd 2010 @ 8:36am | Report comment
VC
I disagree.
History is extremely important in giving background as to why certain groups and relationships exist. Who are you to say whether it is relevant or not? Vinay is simply giving background so that there is more entering knowledge in which to view the issue.
Nothing is ‘that simple’ unless you have walked in the respective nations or individuals shoes.
Viscount Crouchback said | July 2nd 2010 @ 9:04am | Report comment
There is history as background and there is history as grievance. This seems to be the history of grievance. The BCCI throwing its weight around because of colonialism makes about as much sense as the France Football Federation seeking to undermine the Deutscher Fussball Bund because of World War II. No European would tolerate such nonsense and I don’t see why any cricket lover should tolerate this nonsense out of a mis-placed desire to be seen as “tolerant” and “historically aware”.
Sport should be used to bring people together and overcome the past, not to re-create it with the boot on the other foot.
Brett McKay said | July 2nd 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Vinay, everything you offer up here makes perfect sense, very hard to disagree with any of it, yet I still find myself in the minority on this particular issue, being that the ICC members have unprecedentedly rejected a nomination for VP put forward by a region on rotation, and in good faith.
Viscount has this spot on, I think, in saying “this should be a simple cricketing matter,” but sadly, like most things ICC-related it seems, this will now never, ever be “a simple cricketing matter” and an opportunity for much-needed and well-overdue change within the realms of World Cricket will be lost to the game…..
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Brett, I will address this to both Viscount and yourself and this is not an attempt to have agreement but further rationale behind my points.
Firstly on the subject of this should be ” a simple cricketing matter” Unfortunately the reality is that cricket is now politicsed and commecialised. Cricket is not run by cricketers. If it had been Alan Border or Mark Taylor being put up as the candidate there would have been no objection. In fact we have Dr. Harry Harinath,a director of CA,who would have been eminently acceptable.
In saying this I have always been opposed to Sharad Pawar being President. He apparently assured Morgan the outgoing President and CA that Howard would be ratified. Politics change and politicians change. Pawar,subsequent to the IPL rorts,is as much on the nose as Modi.
Consider that the ICC is a political family. As in all families there are in-laws that have and those less fortunate. The BCCI is the richest. So CA have wooed them to the exclusion of the other in-laws. Boards from Sri Lanka, Pakistan,Bangladesh,West Indies and South Africa have seen the cosy relationship between the BCCI and CA and have been privately seething.
For the last few weeks Howard and Clarke have been trying to convince these Boards to accept Howard. Six of them have refused and the reasons range from “diviseness” racism and inexperience. I have no time for Chingoka but he said yesterday that “reasons were given and they may not have been palatable”
Australia have been presumptious in thinking just because they had a beer with the BCCI that they would endorse John Howard.
Cricinfo quotes Mani,a former Pakistani President of the ICC “I think the lessons to be learnt for CA would be big ones after this incident,” Mani said. “Australia threw all their eggs into one basket over the last few years and it’s come back to bite them because they lost support from other boards while pursuing the BCCI”
In the end the six boards decided Howard was not acceptable. That is the umpire’s decision
In a perverse way this is democratic and shows that other Boards were not simply going to rubber stamp Sharad Pawar’s preferred nominee. And I doubt that Pawar was sincere in his assurances to CA.
Viscount,in this instance the BCCI was “persuaded” by the other 5 boards that Howard was not “acceptable” Finally, I was at pains to deplore the BCCI’s past record and agree they have been opaque and compromised but this is not their decision alone.
Mini said | July 2nd 2010 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Just like India accept the umpires decisions (Sydney test anyone?). All they have to do is come out and say why howard wasn’t acepted and if the reasons are fair enough, well then good. But they haven’t which menas they probably got somthing to hide.
Brett McKay said | July 2nd 2010 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
Vinay, that doesn’t look to be the case though, that CA just “had a beer with the BCCI”. Malcolm Conn in The Australian today details preliminary agreement to Howard’s nomination was forthcoming from India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh, and that even Mugabe himself has delclared of Howard that “..what’s past is past…”
I care not for Howard’s political past, but for the future runnings of world cricket. What is most disturbing here, to me anyway, is that process has broken down for no obvious reason, and with no explanation.
Conn’s piece: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/howards-innings-turns-to-ashes/story-e6frg6z6-1225886879441
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Brett,as far as I am aware the assurances were given by Sharad Pawar to Morgan,the outgoing President ,and perhaps to Jack Clarke. But if current reports are to be believed Sharad Pawar is not enjoying the same support from the BCCI that he did in the past.
I can only surmise that the Boards of Sri Lanka, South Africa,Pakistan and the West Indies have had a change of heart..that is presuming if there was ever any iron clad assurance.
I did mention some months ago that the ICC is perhaps redundant in today’s bilateral world..where the strong boards play against each other .
I believe the reason is that they consider Howard a racist. Perception is reality.
Brett McKay said | July 2nd 2010 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Vinay, this sounds like you’re coming back around to my point yesterday, that this development raises more questions about the ICC than it does about John Howard. Quite obviously, there were no iron clad agreements, and so we then start questioning who said what to who to make these countries go back on their initial position about Howard’s nomination..
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
Brett, there has always been questions about the ICC. But one important point to remember is that the ICC is the voice of the most powerful constituent or as was the case prior to India constituents.
If we accept that Politics is about power and then that the ICC is a political entity,Like the IOC,FIFA, then the people with power will excercise it …and not always for the common good…in fact it is often self serving.
I would be delighted if the BCCI can take the lead and show good governance..it has not to date..but then I can think of so many instances of countries and bodies like IOC and FIFA being guilty of manipulation and hungry for power.
Another point I should make is that India is not necessarily the big bad wolf that many are quick to portray. The increased money in cricket is coming from India…All countries are sharing in this. And particularly Australia and South Africa with their partnership in the Champion’s League. I would say to the tune of 20 Million for austrtalia and 15 million for South Africa. In fact if anyone should feel hard done by it is the ECB.
I find it amusing that Indians were considered “nice” and polite when they were not an economic power. Now we, and I include myself as Indian and Australian, are sometimes considered manipulative and arrogant. I must add only by those with a narrow world view.
Brett McKay said | July 2nd 2010 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
and once again Vinay, we find ourselves back on common ground. Cannot disagree with anything you’ve said here, and while in this particular debate I’ve probably indirectly implied that India played a key role in rejecting Howard’s nomination, I don’t believe that to be the case. No doubt they were a key element, and even that other countries may have been swayed by their position, but I would be surprised if they were the first to state their position of inability to ratify.
Interesting though that sections of the Indian media are today leading the charge in laying the boot into Howard…
johnno42 said | July 2nd 2010 @ 9:08am | Report comment
very few people wanted howard as a PM (especially towards the bitter end) and he didnt like that, now very few want him as a guy in cricket and he doesnt like that either… he is just an inconsequential angry old man… lets move on shall we.
Ken said | July 2nd 2010 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
That’s rewriting history a bit isn’t it, he won 3 elections as the head of the government. If he was still around I reckon he would have given it a fair shake at the upcoming election just quietly – a lot of people looking for that assured stability that he provided.
Spencer said | July 2nd 2010 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
That’s nonsense – almost half the Australian electorate voted for Howard – 3 times. You are disingenuous in stating that “very few people…..”….tsh tsh tsh
Tony said | July 2nd 2010 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Four times.
The Way It Is said | July 3rd 2010 @ 7:19pm | Report comment
Agree totally Howard should live out his life in complete retirement. Go away Howard
Kersi Meher-Homji said | July 2nd 2010 @ 10:08am | Report comment
Vinay, I found your post too political for my liking. And wherever there is politics, I move away.
I was about to point out that the current chief of ICC is another politician, Sharad Pawar. But you yourself pointed it out in your comment, thus stealing my “thunder”.
Like you I would have preferred Mark Taylor, Border… and Harinath to Howard. But as no one came forward, Howard is not a bad choice.
He loves and understands cricket and is a superb administrator. If Mugagbe’s Zimbabwe object to him, this is an indication that Howard has a good character. And how Australia flourished when Howard was the PM and Costello the treasurer.
Too many “hollier than thou homilies” by politically-powered Cricket Boards.
Tony said | July 2nd 2010 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Jeez, Vinay, way to selectively quote!
Peter Roebuck did not blithely agree with your thrust via a definitive “Cricket Australia overplayed its hand” he actually wrote the markedly more speculative “Perhaps, too, Cricket Australia overplayed its hand.” As indeed they MIGHT have.
My turn to cherry pick: The rest of his article basically calls the current ICC a pack of corrupt, turf-protecting, booze quaffing, fat-cats and hacks.
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Hi Tony,without cherry picking the debate is whether Howard was a suitable person and if there was a need to rubber stamp his approval. I am arguing for the opposition. Just as Howard and Jack Clarke argued their case in Singapore and failed.
The debate is not whether the ICC is a paragon of virtue. We are agreed it is not
So was Howard considered suitable by the majority of the ICC. The Nos have it.
Ken said | July 2nd 2010 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
‘So was Howard considered suitable by the majority of the ICC. The Nos have it.’
Exactly, and the ‘why?’ is what people are clamouring for. The general feeling that I’m picking up is that they were scared, he would not have been a lap-dog and wouldn’t have rolled over for them.
I think the history angle is being overblown. Howard isn’t a racist and there’s no evidence that he is – it’s quite amusing to think that South Africa voted against him because he didn’t take a harder line against THEM back in the apartheid days. Any stance against Mugabe’s regime should be applauded. The more mixed up one I’ve seen (not directly referenced in your article) put out from a few Indian sources says that this is a strike back against the former colonial powers.. come again? Australia = big island at the bottom of Asia, England = small island on the side of Europe that formerly colonised both Australia and India a couple of centuries ago.
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 1:41pm | Report comment
Ken,The ICC has a President but as we all know Presidents are mostly ceremonial unless you happen to be a Castro or Tito. The ICC has representation of the the CEO’s of all the Test Playing Nations. Vaughn, Sutherland,and Giles Clark. They all attend these meetings and there has been ample opportunity for all of them to blow the whistle. And I would not think any of these people were lap-dogs.
As far as Howard being a racist I give you this from Neil Gillespie: I also enclose my media release on Howard. I think it is great the ICC members sent Mr Howard packing. Thanx foryour support in this matter. I thank you and I don’t think I am out ofplace in saying thanx on behalf of all Aboriginal people here inAustralia. We are a great country but the Howard years were dogged with illtreatment of Black Australians with his racist policies. Australia needs to improve its treatment of Aboriginal people otherwisethe UN itself will reject Australia’s desire to sit on the SecurityCouncil. Australia’s track record of ill treatment of Aboriginal peopledoes not stand well in the international community. I suggest manynations will be thinking if Australia can’t provide for basic humanrights and security for Black Australians, how can it possibly sit onthe UNSC and provide security for other nations. Warm regards from Australia and a very happy CEO of a Blackorganisation. Neil E GillespieChief Executive OfficerAboriginal Legal Rights Movement IncTele 08 8113 3702 Fax 08 8231 0616 Justice without Prejudice This was a media release put out today.
We have heard in the past that Zimbabwe’s books are cooked. I have read a report which says the Pakistan Cricket Board has still not audited the proceeds from the 1996 World Cup. Millions are involved.
If a representative of the Aboriginal people has such strong views then it is reasonable to expect similar views among predominantly “black” countries.
A South African said | July 2nd 2010 @ 4:42pm | Report comment
Anyone who doesn’t understand that this statement says everything that needs to be said about why John Howard will never become ICC president will never get it. When you are seen as a rascist everythinf else is irrelevant. The Germans had a competent administrator as leader during world war two, his good points were rendered irrelevant when weighed against his bad posts. I am not saying John Howard is like that German Leader but I am saying that I believe he is racist and most black Australians believe he was a racist and that alone is reason enough for him to be sent packing from where I sit.
Chop said | July 2nd 2010 @ 6:17pm | Report comment
Let me get this straight, you’re comparing Howard to Hitler???
The ICC and more specifically the BCCI were afraid of the questions Howard would ask about the financial incompetence of the current administration. Especially the financial enquiry into Zimbabwe that got buried when the Asian bloc booted Malcolm Speed out of the job.
I think it’s just another tactic of the BCCI to flex it’s muscle and say to Australia, England and New Zealand that they actually are in charge of cricket and the ICC is their puppet and only those who will mindlessly accept that will be allowed into the presidential role going forward.
Tom said | July 2nd 2010 @ 10:35am | Report comment
All of this article would be relevant if India and Pakistan applied these same standards to their appointments to the ICC. As it stands, their stance is just pure politicking. Whilst I disagree with the decision to appoint Howard over Sir John Anderson, the process was all above board, and there is no precedent nor valid reason for the other boards not to endorse Howard.
And as for your international relations theorising in the last part of the article, may I respectfully suggest you stick to cricket writing. Australia is a relatively small country with limited diplomatic resources. We don’t trade much with India, nor are they in our immediate geographic sphere of interest. Hence, we focus our resources on countries in the immediate region (PNG, Indonesia, Pacific Islands), and countries we trade with (China, Japan, Korea), and the USA (militarily and thru the shared sense of history). As bad as this sounds, there really isn’t much reason for Australia to greatly increase its engagement with India ahead of the aforementioned countries.
You also neglect to mention that the Howard government agreed to sell uranium to India in 2007, a decision overturned by Rudd.
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Tom,the ICC is politicised and as far as precedent goes there is nothing in the ICC constitution that makes it mandatory to accept a nomination. Howard’s nomination did not get the required numbers .This happens in politics. Rudd was a classic case.
I was not theorising about International Relations: Consider this from Stephen Smith our Foreign Minister; “India is Australia’s fastest-growing major two-way trading partner, with two-way trade growing more than 50% to nearly $22 billion in 2008-09.
It is soon to become Australia’s third largest export market after China and Japan.
India’s projected energy needs and resources requirements are enormous as the world’s sixth-largest energy consumer.
Australia is a key supplier of resources and energy to fuel India’s future economic growth.” This was a speech on the 7th of June 2010 at the Sheraton in Perth addressing a Energy Forum. It is presumptious of you,and a little patronising ,to ask me to stick to cricket writing.
THIRD LARGEST EXPORT MARKET, Tom..not PNG or Indonesia or USA.
Tom said | July 2nd 2010 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
There is no obligation on the other members to accept a nomination, but the precedent has been that nominated representatives are accepted. Australia and NZ have accepted some undeniably unsuitable nominees from other ICC members in the expectation that their nominee would be accepted likewise. Howard probably isn’t the best nominee, but considering some of the characters who have been given positions within the ICC, he is far from the worst.
On the second point, if you were not theorising about IR, what do you call “…Australia’s in general, engagement with India has been on a superficial level”, or “This is a time for Australia to engage India in a long-term and meaningful manner.” or “The French, the Italians, the Germans and Japanese have assiduously cultivated and for years strengthened their cultural and economic ties with India”. India may be a large export market, but it is not even in the top 10 2 way trading partners (source: http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/focus/081201_top10_twoway_exports.html). And as for PNG and Indonesia, I mentioned that we pay attention to them because they are in our immediate region, not because of trade. Instability in Indonesia or PNG is of much greater concern to us than instability in India, which is of course much further away.
Relations between nations and the attention paid to others are a complex combination of geography, economics and politics. The reason that India is not at the forefront of Australia’s diplomatic attentions is because it is considered to be relatively less important to us, all factors considered, than the countries I mentioned previously.
Vinay Verma said | July 2nd 2010 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Tom,on the second point first..Stephen Smith as the Trade Minister would have more knowledge than you or I and he states” India is Australia’s fastest growingtrade partner …soon TO BECOME AUSTRALIA’S THIRD LARGEST EXPORT MARKET BEHIND CHINA AND JAPAN” The reason this has not already happened is because in the past as I said ” the engagement was on a superficial level”
India and Australia are about to sign a free trade agreement. They already have Joint Military Excercises and the engagemet is proceeding on a more mature level now. I would say that Howard’s reign missed out on opportunities and in the end short changed the electorate. The foreign minister does not share your views on the “relative” importance of India. In fact India has been clamouring for a bigger share in Australia’s Imports…Australia sells 5 times more to India than india does to Australia.
Now back to the first point in your post about precedence. The logic you espouse that the ICC accepted previous “unsuitable nominees” and should therefore accept another unsuitable one suggests a perpetuation of folly.
Where I have no disagreement with you is that the ICC is inept and self serving. And I also accept that previous actual or perceived slights should not come into play. But Tom we are talking here about political animals. Pawar, Howard, Chingoka,Butt,….I have made the point that Politicians should be judged by the rules they play with..and these are based on numbers.
Tom said | July 2nd 2010 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
On the second last paragraph, I agree with what you are saying, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy of many of the representatives in voting down Howard for the reasons given, when they have in the past put forward far more unsuitable candidates. I’m not even sure that he is a particularly bad nominee. Regardless of his past indiscretions, he is unlikely to bow down in the face of subcontinental interests. Cricket desperately needs someone to clean out the ICC, and Howard could well do that.
And the reason Australia’s export market to India was small in the past was because its economy was small, not because of the lack of engagement diplomatically. As India’s economy grows, so does its demand for energy and raw material, and hence Australia is willing to sell it to them. I will maintain that India still does not command the same attention diplomatically compared to the other nations I mentioned, and nor should it. As India continues to grow, so will its relative importance to Australia. In the meantime, as I said we are a relatively small country with limited diplomatic resources, and we should focus on our more immediate sphere of interest.
And all that has happened on the FTA is that a feasibility study has been commissioned; that is a long way off signing off on it. And as I mentioned already, uranium sales are a significant impediment to closer relations between Australia and India – however, Howard actually agreed to sell uranium to India, which Rudd reneged upon.
Vinay Verma said | July 4th 2010 @ 7:40am | Report comment
Tom, I will grant you that the ICC in its various avatars, has not been a paragon of virtue.
And the point about the Trade is that Australia could have had a more meaningful relation with India if they had engaged deeper. India,too, has not sent a PM here till 1986. These two countries have a lot more in common than say China or Indonesia. They also share a common ocean. I would have thought they could do more with each other.
Tom, in the end talking something through leaves less scars then throwing grenades.It was good to engage with you even though we disagree on many fronts.
Tony said | July 2nd 2010 @ 11:23am | Report comment
Why, precisely, is John Anderson so highly esteemed? Surely it can’t simply be because he has a “Sir” in front of his name. Maybe the ICC prefer Anderson because he is “one of us”. That seems to be what Peter Chingoka is saying: Chingoka justifies Howard’s rejection. (Justifies? That’s a good one.) One wonders how much is known about Anderson by those outside the loop who reflexively brandish his name. Was he such a worthy candidate?
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