Deans’ last shuffle of his Wallabies cards
By Spiro Zavos, 9 Jul 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Since he became coach of the Wallabies, Robbie Deans has presided over a virtual clean-out of the failed 2007 Wallaby squad. He has created 27 new Wallabies, with four new players, Anthony Faingaa, Scott Higginbottom, Rob Simmons, and Ben McCalman in this latest selection for the 2010 Tri Nations tournament.
Aside from several players coming back from injury, like James Horwill and Cameron Shepherd, and the expected return of Dan Vickerman, the squad Deans selected on Thursday is the squad that the Wallabies will take to RWC 2011.
The 28 players named, with two more to come, are effectively Deans’ last shuffle of his Wallabies cards.
We can see with the newcomers where Deans is most concerned about the quality of his present Test players.
Anthony Faingaa is there to strengthen and toughen up the Wallabies mid-field by running more directly to set targets for his forwards to play off.
The implication here is that Matt Giteau’s days are numbered as the Wallabies inside centre. Although he is relatively young for a senior player, Giteau has played 81 Tests.
Many of these Tests have been played at inside centre, a crucial tackling and running position (think Tim Horan).
The small Giteau has been brave with his tackling of monsters like Ma’a Nonu and Jean de Villiers. But now his body is letting him down. He is showing his rugby age.
The spriteliness has gone. He tends to kick rather than run.
I believe that he is too valuable a player not to be in any Wallaby starting line-up, so I’m making my annual plea to Deans to give him a crack on the wing, playing the Shane Williams role.
A shift like this would enable Deans to play Will Genia, Quade Cooper and Anthony Faingaa, the inside back combination that did so well for the Queensland Reds.
The point here is that if the Wallabies are to be competitive in the Tri-Nations, it will have to be on the back of a total game as played by the Reds. The forwards, even with Rocky Elsom and Benn Robinson back, are an average pack lacking mongrel and fire-power in their running.
The backs, though, as they showed against England at Perth, are capable of ripping strong defensive sides to shreds, if they are on their game.
The key to being on their game is the inside back combination, starting at halfback with Cooper’s magic and some direct running from whoever is the inside centre.
In the Sydney Morning Herald on Wednesday, I wrote an article pointing out that the fundamental problem with the Wallabies is that the backs are too small and the forwards play small, even when they are reasonably big, like Dean Mumm.
You wouldn’t know it from the way they play that Mumm is taller and heavier than Brad Thorne. Thorne, though, plays big and Mumm plays small.
Deans clearly recognises that this gets to the heart of his problems for three of new players are big, mobile and aggressive forwards. It would not surprise me if at least two of these new forwards are in the squad to play the All Blacks at Sydney in a couple of weeks time.
Rugby is a game where tactics and strategies are forever being churned over.
There is a development, coming from South Africa, to have the roles of the second rowers becoming distinctive with a pushing/lifting/smash running second rower (Bakkies Botha and Brad Thorn) and a jumping/covering/ agile second rower (Victor Matfield, Anthony Boric).
The Wallabies lack a pushing second rower.
The player who should fill this role is Nathan Sharpe. But Sharpe, like his fellow second rowers, tends to play smaller than he is. So the Wallabies have used Mumm, who is a jumping second rower, in the shoving role.
Simmons (200 cm and 120kg), a rough and ready type of player, might be the pushing second rower Deans needs.
The backs, too, could do with some bigger players.
It struck me when I saw the Wallabies go down at Wellington to the All Blacks last year how much smaller the Wallabies were in the backs. And predictably, Nonu monstered his opponents.
I reckon that Deans will bring Cameron Shepherd (104kg and 189cm) into the squad when he gets through a club match unscathed.
In the SMH, too, I raised the possibility of Deans trying to turn Higginbottom into an outside centre. He has the pace, skills and defensive qualities needed for the position.
In the early days of rugby, players, especially in the forwards, did not have specific positions. The first players to the scrum, for instance, formed the front row, and so on.
The 1905 All Blacks created specific positions for the players in the forwards and backs. Over time, this has become the norm.
But the roles played in the various positions have changed.
I’m old enough, for instance, to have played when wingers threw the ball into the lineouts. There is nothing to stop any player from throwing the ball in, in fact.
Some French clubs have used the half back for this role.
My idea about Higginbottom is based on the notion that outside centre has become another loose forward position. Why not develop a loose forward to play there.
Players have in the past moved from the forwards to backs with success (think Jonah Lomu, Eric Rush). Why not Higginbottom?
In his term as Wallaby coach, Deans has coached 32 Tests for 18 wins at the disappointing success rate of 56 per cent.
There have been some notable victories.
Last season the Wallabies defeated the Springboks, something the All Blacks could not have achieved. There have been seven successive losses, after a first-up victory, to the All Blacks that has corrupted the record.
The bookmakers are suggesting that the Wallabies will come a long last in this year’s Tri-Nations, and their most likely victory will be against the All Blacks at Sydney.
I would think also that the Test in two weeks or so against the Springboks at Brisbane is also a strong candidate for a Wallabies victory.
You have to go back 30 years or so for the Springboks winning at Brisbane (and back to 1937 as a matter of interest for a Springboks victory against the All Blacks at Eden Park). The Reds mauled the Bulls at Brisbane this season and the perfect playing surface at Lang Park should help the high-octane game the Wallabies will want to play this season.
Right now, the prospects of other victories do not look good.
But things can turn around quickly in rugby, as the Reds showed this season. The cards have been shuffled, but they yet to be played.
And who knows what tricks Deans has in store for us to marvel at?
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Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:23am | Report comment
Interesting thoughts, Spiro.
‘The implication here is that Matt Giteau’s days are numbered as the Wallabies inside centre. Although he is relatively young for a senior player, Giteau has played 81 Tests.’
I think the more significant point is that Deans is basically rejecting his long held policy of fielding second playmakers at 12. IMO Faingaa represents a return to simplicity (if selected), which in itself is perhaps an admittance that the Australian backs/the coaching are unable to develop anything particularly progressive. The ironic thing is that most other sides, England, Ireland, SA and NZ are broadening their attacking horizons whilst Deans is (potentially) narrowing his.
‘The backs, though, as they showed against England at Perth, are capable of ripping strong defensive sides to shreds, if they are on their game.’
Realistically one can’t hold this up as an example of Australian backline excellence when a very callow England side missed over 30 tackles and had a pretty turgid day at the office. Really, if you think back during the tenure of Deans the only other games where the backline showed any real verve was against Wales during the Autumn Tests, and New Zealand two seasons ago. Beyond that the backs have lacked any cohesiveness, and as Brett McKay pointed out elsewhere, the way the back three played as a unit (or not) these pre-3N tests has been pretty informative, which is perhaps why Deans is going for a bosher at 12.
Mals said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
Mr Saunders – if the Wallabies play Cooper at 10, Beale at 15 & Faingaa at 12 I don’t agree that the Wallabies will have narrowed their attacking options compared to other top nations. Beale is a ball playing 15 which is rare in international rugby, so having a direct runner at 12 for the Wallabies makes sense & brings balance to the backline.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
But the point is that such a move has come two seasons into Deans’s reign, which indicates that he has either had a philosophical change of heart regarding the role of the 12, or he is admitting that the past two seasons of backplay have been a failure, or he is admitting that his coaching of the backs has been a failure. You’re also presuming that Beale will start, Mals (I don’t believe he will). To me, the inclusion of Faingaa (and he may not even start) indicates regression unless he can play the midfield bulwark role as well as other men like Nonu, Jauzion, Roberts and Tindall do, and that’s a big ask. Deans has coached Australia to kick, and starting Faingaa at 12 would remove a kicking option which, in turn, will alter the roles of the players around Faingaa. Personally I don’t think he;s good enough, big enough or clever enough to galvanise the Australian backline from 12 – Barnes for me all day of the week.
Hoy said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Whoa, whoa, whoa, why is it a regression to have a direct runner at 12 instead of a second 5/8?
I think that Australia has always played well with a direct runner at 12, and the regression for our backline at the moment is trying to play the damn second 5/8.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:26am | Report comment
Australia has played well when the direct runner has a reasonably broad range of talents, Hoy. There is no real comparison between Grey and Horan, for example. Australia played well with Flatley at 12, and Giteau has also had his moments of genius, so let’s not delve too deeply into stereotype. In any case, if the answer is so simple then surely you must be asking yourself why Deans hasn’t taken this option earlier?
Deans is a coach who has always played a second playmaker at 12, and he has done for two seasons with Australia, so for a coach to revert to an untried midfielder, and a player who clashes with a long held coaching philosophy, simply to ‘straighten the line’ when he is most under pressure from the media and fans alike does not smack of a long-term progressive plan, IMO. We’ve seen what happens with AAC at 12, so I can’t imagine what a less physical, less athletic and more inexperienced player could achieve in a pivotal position when so much is at stake?
Hoy said | July 9th 2010 @ 10:51am | Report comment
Horan is my favourite player. A more complete player I can’t think of. But he was a 12 through and through.
Flatley was also more of a 12 than a 10. He played a lot of 10, but like Barnes, he was more steady as she goes than a creative spark. To me that style of play suits 12. I was never that much of a fan of Flatley.
I agree Giteau is as close as we come to having a second 5/8, but even he showed he is not really the second 5/8 mould. He is more of a sniper, running off phase play into holes than a man who sets up his outside men.
Truth be told, AAC failed at 12, because he is not a 12. Despite what people think, 12 isn’t that simple to play either. AAC had not played 12 much prior to playing there for AUS, and I agree, he failed there badly.
We have all seen too, that AAC rarely passes in space, so he sure as hell isn’t going to pass in traffic as a 12 must.
Next argument about inexperience? I don’t agree. Back in the day, the young players were blooded against the big teams. June Internationals were not the softening up period we seem to think they are now. We threw young blokes to the wolves, and they swam. Faingaa was one of the form centres of the super 14. Should we be cotton wooling him because he is a rookie?
Second part to that argument is that what else do we do? Put up with mediocre performances from incumbants because people feel we should wait to blood young inexperienced players on the end of year tour?
AF hasn’t actually been picked yet either, he is just in the squad, so this is all just thoughts from arm chair critics.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:26pm | Report comment
The way I see it is this – in broad terms Deans is changing his philosophical stance (if, of course, Faingaa is selected at 12). Why now? This is the most pressure he has been under and so he is utilising a player who plays the game in a basic manner. Why now? It just seems very knee-jerk. Personally I am not a fan of Saingaa, and having seen what happend to his brother and Daley during the recent tests it seems like an unecessary risk. Really, what Deans would be saying with Faingaa at 12 is that he can’t get anything out of Barnes or Giteau. I just don’t see his potential selection as positive in any way, Hoy. We shall just have to wait a few weeks until SA land in Australia.
reds fan said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:46am | Report comment
Agreed Hoy. This is a step forward. And as for narrowing our attack, few teams have the luxury of someone like Genia at 9. At the Reds Genia and Cooper are the two playmakers. The Bok have played this way too, with Fourie du Preez and Morne Steyn. Using a second 5/8th isn’t strictly progressive, its just different. And its different in a way that suits the way the Wallabies have traditionally played.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:51am | Report comment
Genia is a totally different player to Du Preez, reds fan, and he plays in a totally different system at the Bulls compared to Genia at the Reds.
reds fan said | July 9th 2010 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
Mr S. did i same they were the same, or that the systems were the same? err…. no.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:20pm | Report comment
‘At the Reds Genia and Cooper are the two playmakers. The Bok have played this way too, with Fourie du Preez and Morne Steyn.’
You are making a comparison between two totally different units. What should one infer from the above statement?
Justin said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Can I ask what you think Barnes offers? Outside of a boot (an overrated one) and good defensive work?
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I think Barnes offers calm, an acurate boot, an accurate passing game and time on the ball. He is a classy player and an intelligent organiser, and I’d wager he’d be far more appreciated in NZ, SA or Europe than he is in Australia.
Justin said | July 9th 2010 @ 11:18am | Report comment
Fair enough. I actually think he panics at times and just hoofs the ball downfield without having properly assessed his options.
We will agree to disagree as I think his kicking is just above average (not in the Steyn or Carter class) and he has a slow passing game (it would want to be accurate with the time it takes for him to move the ball on).
Hoy said | July 9th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
I also think that Barnes first option these days seems to be put ball to boot. I was always a bit wary of Barnes as he seemed to like the drop goal as a first option rather than trying to attack the line for a try.
I will admit I didn’t see much of the Tah’s this year, however from all reports he did like the nudge.
Dexter William said | July 9th 2010 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
“Deans has coached Australia to kick, and starting Faingaa at 12 would remove a kicking option”
Please remember that the game of kicking has moved on a bit this season, with the new law interpretation of holding on to the ball.
Strategies need to be changed when the rules changed.
The problem all season for Barnes at Tahs and Test was that he kicked too much. Yes. Yes. He is a good defensive player that reads the game well, but ability wise on the attack is limited by his lack of pace off the mark.
With Genia and Cooper both showing play-making skills, having the 2nd 5/8 as a playmaker is not as critical.
Basically AF would give the attack more focus and sharpness that would keep the opposing team very cautious about having a rushing defence.
Mr Saunders said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:31pm | Report comment
‘Please remember that the game of kicking has moved on a bit this season, with the new law interpretation of holding on to the ball.’
I understand that, Dexter, but in broad terms the more kickers in your team the better, especially if the forward pack is likely to be under duress.
Buddha said | July 11th 2010 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
Cooper at ten. Defenetly. What can’t he do. OK. every now and then he can’t tackle. But he HAS improved.Beale at 15 defenetly not. He doesn’t do enough work. all he does is does is doges players. He can’t chip. He can’t grubber. He can’t tackle. And Faingaa at 12. No. I think he should be on the bench and James O’Connor at 12. He has the skill, some speed, the defence, but he can drop the ball some times.
Gussy said | July 12th 2010 @ 1:23am | Report comment
Really? Beale can’t chip? You can’t be serious… Did you watch the Super 14 at all?
taylorbridge said | July 12th 2010 @ 5:36pm | Report comment
I watched Cooper play the second half for Souths against the Gold Coast Breakers yesterday ( sunday) at Chipsy Wood oval. He was on fire. He totally changed the game to set up tries for Souths to win in the last seconds. He was AWESOME. Anthony Fainga was in the centres and played strongly but Cooper was at another level.
Jim McDonald said | July 10th 2010 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Spiro, You are right about Nathan Sharpe. I have it on good authority that he often does not push in the scrums. Good authority. Jim McDonald
McGee said | July 10th 2010 @ 9:06pm | Report comment
If they are going to choose Cooper at 10, then they need to look at the option of the running 12 (Who still has ball skills available). We have seen Giteau struggle outside of Cooper because of Cooper’s erratic style. Deans has the option to go one of two ways;
The two play maker option (Toouma and Giteau in my opinion),
or Cooper with two running centres.
As Cooper is playing extremely well at the moment the latter would be my option, however you need the right personal in the centres for this to be effective. I think they need to bring back a project that they gave up on a long time ago. Ashley Cooper playing inside centre. He had all the right skills and at the time I couldn’t work out why he wasn’t successful in this position. But, it all makes sense now… He wasn’t in a combination with the right 10. So this is what I am thinking for my Australian 22 (If there were no injuries).
1) Robinson 2) Poluta Nau 3) Alexander
Palu
4) Horwill 5)Vickerman
6) Elsom 7) Pocock
9) Genia 10) Cooper
11) Ioane 12) Ashley Cooper 13) Chambers 14) Giteau
15) Sheppherd
16) Moore 17) Blake 18) Sharpe 19) Higgimbotham 20) Kingi 21) O’Conner 22) Mitchell
stu said | July 11th 2010 @ 10:48am | Report comment
I Like AAC but not a 12 – give the guy a break and give him a wing – Faingaa deserves a shot at 12.
Hombre said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:28am | Report comment
More flakey ideas in this article than I’ve seen for a while … considering turning Higginbottom into a centre for the world cup is madness … centre is a tough position to master just ask numerous quality AB backs that have been shifted there by various coaches (Deans being one of them) … Lomu and Rush ended up on the wing with one changing (like a lot of players do) at school and the other after a re-inventing himself in the 7′s game …
Whilst the Reds were a revelation in the S14 – it’s a big call to pin all your hopes on them to provide not only the players but also the gameplan for the Wallabies … a Genia, Cooper, Faingaa inside back combination is far too raw for a tri nations test – if was to be used it should have been in the June tests … I’d expect to see Barnes in the #12 shirt for the Brisbane game
If I were a wallabies fan I’d be more intent on hoping to see some marked improvement in structure and gameplan this series rather than pin any hopes on winning anything – NZ and SA look light years ahead of Aussie at the moment and it’s conceivable that the wallabies could go 0-6 … Deans has shown zero indication of how he wants to play the game over the last 2 years and the wallabies have on more occasions than not looked aimless ..
cookee said | July 9th 2010 @ 10:41am | Report comment
HOMBRE,yes the signs of a bereft coach who doesnt know if he is coming or going.after a couple of years building,building;no cattle,no cattle and using every player in aust s14 he finds himself doing what jono suggests toughening up the cattle( like cramming for an exam)..is this really the behavior of a top coach or maybe one whose past successes mirror the background music and edge he had at chch.
are these the selections that spiro sought ;enthusiasm versus experience.54%—-56%—-38%.
these percentages wont impress the nzru job description after henry.bet theyre laughing
Red Rooster said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:34am | Report comment
Tricks? – Have we been saving them for 2 years? The prospect of two backrowers in the centres next year will be interesting (SBW v Higgers) The one point that is not addressed is whether we are actually playing the right game style – this just seems to be assumed – I think we need to play smarter so I hope there are plenty of tricks
Seiran said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:39am | Report comment
SBW was never a back rower in Union was he? I don’t think someone playing a forward or backrower in league can be used in the point Spiro was making.
Red Rooster said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:45am | Report comment
No he hasn’t (except when Toulon tried him there) but maybe he plays centre like a backrower, Have you seen him play much? You will understand when you do.
Seiran said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:55am | Report comment
I’ve watched him play live at a few Toulon matches and to be honest, it was in the beginning of his career there and he was a bit of a shocker.
I watched him again (on tv this time) in a recent semi final toulon played in and he was much better but I certainly didn’t think he played like a backrower; actually he reminded me a bit of Mortlock when he was much younger.
ohtani's jacket said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:36am | Report comment
And who knows what tricks Deans has in store for us to marvel at?
Me!
mother teresa said | July 9th 2010 @ 10:43am | Report comment
no me,kick and chase
Spencer said | July 9th 2010 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
You’re a legend Mr Jacket!
Get off the sushi train and take up coaching. I believe that tired-hack teachers are favoured for senior coaching positions in NZ.
ohtani's jacket said | July 9th 2010 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
I’d rather coach Australia. Easiest gig in the world. Let em suck, blame the cattle, watch the money roll in.
Hayden said | July 11th 2010 @ 8:38am | Report comment
Exactly OJ. And people think Deans is clueless. And it’s fleecing ARU dollars to boot.
Red Rooster said | July 9th 2010 @ 7:39am | Report comment
BTW – unless Deans and Giteau fall in love again there is little prospect of him “tackling monsters” on a regular basis. Do not underestimate the negative impact of an obvious “rift” in a camp
Short-Blind. said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Agree Rooster but it will come to nothing unless Deans actually plays AF at 12 and tells him he has a few tests to prove himself. This ‘unproven’ nonsense can only be settled by giving him a go and as Tim Horan showed if your good enough your old enough (not that I place AF in Tim’s class). Giteau needs to be placed outside the match 22 to sort himself out mentally/attitude wise and hopefully heal the ‘rift’ you talk about. If AF starts performing (and I think he can with Genia and Cooper inside him) then Gits could be the ultimate bench player- if his ego will accept this role. Deans must play the newly selected men with attitude ie Simmons for Mumm, Hbottom better at 8 because Rocky is not a good 8. etc. There is hope but really until we get Horwill and Palu and Pal Noa back it is unlikely we will win the ruck/gain line contest needed to defeat the Blacks and Saffers. I also agree about Deans settling on a game plan and sticking to it – the Wallabies have not appeared to be playing to a set formula of late and it just breeds confusion and lack of conviction. Whether this is a coach or player problem will only be known by the inner sanctum. The comment about Mitchell is very apt – he is an excellent ‘flat track bully’ but NEVER makes a difference in games against big opposition…..consistency and Defence his two problems. He can work on this and will maybe be back next year.
mother teresa said | July 9th 2010 @ 10:48am | Report comment
culture needs better man management;deans has been poorly advised.
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:34am | Report comment
I have to agree with Hombre up above, I’ll be very surprised to see Anthony Faingaa named at 12. He might even be in the squad just to fire Giteau up, and Barnes certainly can’t be forgotten either.
A question I posed yesterday afternoon though, I wonder if Faingaa might also be being considered at outside centre, even if only in the short-term while Horne is under a cloud, to then allow a Ioane/Hynes/Ashley-Cooper back three??
The Other Reds Fan. said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:35am | Report comment
I am pleased for Simmons but surprised that Van Humphries isn’t there. He is only one year older than Matfield and no-one ever says Victor is past it. Frankly, I think his maturity means he wouldn’t be imtimidated as he has demonstrated for Queensland which dominated the Bulls.
I hardly think that this is the last gamble. There is a whole Super 15 season to come with a new Australian team with some players who are returing because of the world cup e.g. Rodzilla, Rooney and the Manly rugby league winger guy. There will also be season ending injuries (like Horwill’s) next year.
Overall, I do agree with the attitude of bringing in some grunt and mongrel. The pretty boys like Mitchell and Turner had a fair go and didn’t deliver. Mumm is the same. It is a philosophy that worked for Queensland.
mungo maxtone graham said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Whats happened to Tuquiri’s cousin, the big winger? seems to have disappeared off the radar.
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
played off the bench for Fiji in Canberra, Mungo, and so is no longer eligible…
Bay35Pablo said | July 9th 2010 @ 3:45pm | Report comment
Also has gone to France
Red Rooster said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:46am | Report comment
TORF – Van is still injured – has had surgery but not too far away – so logically not in contention might suit the tour in Nov
meatsack said | July 9th 2010 @ 8:49am | Report comment
Who is this Higginbottom? If he’s half as good as Higginbotham he should do OK.
Spencer said | July 9th 2010 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
It’s actually Higgindragon! – that is the name they use for him in South Africa where he is highly rated.