Fairfax’s AFL troupe sour first Heart beat
By Davidde Corran, 15 Jul 2010 Davidde Corran is a Roar Expert
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For the last couple of days, I’d been looking forward to writing about how A-League fans in Melbourne will react to the emergence of the Heart and how torn I feel as an original Melbourne Victory supporter. That’ll have to wait though as, unfortunately, the coverage of Everton’s friendly with the A-League’s newest franchise has got under my skin.
In particular, I’m talking about The Age’s use of two, primarily, AFL writers to cover a “soccer” game.
This is not a football versus AFL article, though. As I’ve written before, I couldn’t care less for that tedious and ultimately pointless debate.
My concern here is with the reporting of the game in Australia, and the A-League in particular, by the general media.
Quite simply, it’s just not good enough.
Lets start with Greg Baum’s analysis of the game, “Melbourne finds a new Heart beat.”
The first edition of the article that ran on theage.com.au said the Everton Down Under organisers’ hopes for a 15,000 person crowd were “dashed”. A comment I found particularly surprising seeing as the official attendance figure was 19,621.
Right now, if you click through to Baum’s piece, you’ll read this instead:
“Ambitiously, organisers priced tickets from $49 to $142, slashing some to $19 when, unsurprisingly, they refused to move. Officially, the crowd was nearly 20,000, a creative reckoning. Across town, a new stadium built specifically for Heart and for soccer, lay in darkness. It was confounding.”
What made it a “creative reckoning”? Because one of The Age’s writers looked out across the stadium and thought, “Mate, I reckon there’s not even 15,000 people here?”
We’ve been through this made-up-numbers game before when The Daily Telegraph ran a shameless “exposé” on the attendance figure from a Sydney FC game based on looking at pictures.
So why take such a cheap shot Greg, if you’ve got no proof? And why did The Age’s sub-editors let it through?
“Confounding,” indeed.
Dan Silkstone’s match report for The Age has some equally worrying moments.
For example: “The Heart was born, not of demand for a second team but out of an FFA reluctance to cede the whole of Melbourne to the Victory. Lacking any natural constituency, it has gone about creating itself for footballing purists.”
It seems pretty obvious to me there was actually a need.
While there are plenty of “football purists” who follow the Victory, a huge swath of round ball lovers have felt isolated by Melbourne’s inaugural A-League club. Ernie Merrick’s men, with their Scottish theme song and kick and rush football, aren’t their team and never will be.
I could go on and on about all the other reasons for the Heart’s existence but there’s so much more to tackle in Silkestone’s article. Like why he thinks the Heart are “suddenly existent”!
Maybe I’m the only one, but I’ve known about the Heart for quite some time. In fact, they even ran, an admittedly tawdry, competition in Melbourne’s biggest selling newspaper to name the side. Weren’t you guys involved in that?
Oh.
Anyway, Dan, the Everton friendly wasn’t the Heart’s first game, just the only one you’d written about.
These might seem like minor points, and there’s plenty more of them within these two pieces but they are crucial.
It’s no longer okay for the Australian media to take such a blasé approach to reporting neither the A-League nor the Socceroos.
The game’s followers are highly educated and will just go elsewhere, while Fairfax’s other readers who are interested in finding out more about their city’s new A-League team miss out on a fair and balanced report.
While I doubt it, maybe those behind the Heart are simply happy to be getting two writers from one major newspaper to cover their glamour friendlies.
But I’m not.
Fairfax sent a team of 10 to South Africa to cover the Socceroos’ World Cup campaign. While they seem happy to lap up the increase in sales such a tournament brings with it, when it comes to the local game this sort of disregard isn’t acceptable.
Baum and Silkstone in particular are good, experienced writers and Fairfax has some wonderful football specialists like Sebastian Hassett so what’s gone wrong?
Its possible FFA’s recent decision to sue Fairfax hasn’t helped but I doubt that’s the main reason behind these latest articles. In fact, this actually isn’t new from The Age.
Greg Baum was similarly dismissive of Juventus’ friendly against Melbourne Victory back in 2008 calling it a “circus”.
At the time Baum misjudged the significance of a visit of such a team, even if almost all their biggest players were missing, and also what it meant to a large part of the Italian community in Australia.
This time, Fairfax are misjudging the whole thing.
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Towser said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Football in Australia is steadily improving. Pity the major media outlets are not keeping pace, with the standard of journalism & more importantly knowledge of the game still inadequate.
Even the old hands bring out old agendas that should have been put in the bin years ago.
I used to give excuses,but not anymore.
Either have people who understand the game & can report accordingly or make way for others who can.
Unfortunately the FFA can only control what happens on & off the field,but not how the game is reported.
Perhaps the game needs a “National Curriculum” to develop Football journalists.
AndyRoo said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:41am | Report comment
I would say the Age are probably better than Most in that their one full time football journo (Lynch) is quite solid and less polarising than Cockerill. Obviously he’s probably on post world cup holidays because you would expect him to be all over this one with previews and such.
James said | July 15th 2010 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
I would go so far as to say that there are journalists here Towser, just that there isn’t the football knowledge in key hiring positions to appreciate it.
Take this sites Tony Tannous, our best football writer by some way I reckon, or blogger Mike Salter, or even Dejan Kalinic on here during the World cup.
The talent is here.
Jay said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:29am | Report comment
I heard on the radio this morning that Thiery Henry is going to New York in the MSL, yet I was completely unaware of Everton playing the Heart (im in sydney mind you).
Where did they play? Presuming not a AAMI Park.
Davidde Corran said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Hi Jay, they played at Etihad Stadium (formerly Telstra Dome).
That’s really interesting that you hadn’t heard much about it. As I understand it, in terms of coverage it’s been one of the best run tours by a foreign club in recent years. Did you know about the game against Sydney last week? Just curious.
Bay35Pablo said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:46am | Report comment
It got soem limited coverage, but no live TV.
Jay said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Yeah knew about the Sydney FC game.. there was a billboard at pretty much at every CBD train station. Ads on busses, radio.. Ads on One HD.
It was very well promoted in Sydney. I thought it was a one-off. But arguable the match against Melbourne Heart takes on more significance given it is their first ever game. I would have thought that of itself would be worthy of some coverage in Sydney.
Rob Gremio said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:23am | Report comment
Jay, the thing is, it wasn’t the Heart’s first ever game. They’ve been playing friendlies for a little while now, including two against A-League opposition – first the Roar up in Toowoomba (which is not, as I saw someone on another football site say, “outback Queensland”, but just an hour and a half up the road from Brissie), and then against Newcastle. The fact that you didn’t know that shows the lack of info being spread around in the media, or your lack of attention to what is going on in the world of Aussie football. One of the two. TWG reported it, so did 442 Australia.
Bay35Pablo said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:47am | Report comment
try following the Australian rugby media some time. We get garbage from most, and that’s the dedicated journalists and TV blokes!!!!
zizou said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:49am | Report comment
“Ernie Merrick’s men, with their Scottish theme song and kick and rush football, aren’t their team and never will be.”
Contrary to popular belief and it appears yours as well, Melbourne Victory do not play kick and rush football. Whilst you have had a go at Fairfax for making baseless comments you go right ahead and make one of your own.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Well said zizou.
I’m not sure if Davidde watched any MVFC matches last season but I reckon 90% of MVFC’s goals came from neat interpassing from outside the box or a Carlos free-kick.
In my opinion, “Kick and rush” refers to the style of football that relies on the long ball hoofed out of defence into the opposition half, then headed on and a striker scores – a bit like the German opening goal against England or the Inter opening goal against Bayern in the UCL final.
MVFC scored 47 goals during the HAL, which is 35% more than the Champions/Premiers Sydney FC, and I can count on one hand the number of “kick and rush” goals last season.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Sadly, I agree Davidde.
I was at the game last night. I rate Dan as a writer but that was not his best work.
Greg Baum in my opinion, is an old school Melbourne sports writer, most of his pieces read like someone who sees the game through AFL glasses.
It was always going to be difficult for Heart’s with their first appearance in Melbourne.
It was like a nervous first date. But at the end of 90 minutes, general consensus was that Heart displayed a brand of football that should excite football fans in Melbourne.
Also, I don’t know where Dan was in the second half because he completely neglected to mention Eli Babalj.
The 18 year old who came on in the second half. The kid could have scored with the best move of the game – keeper saved well from his well taken volley. He also took out 2 defenders when he spun on a dime in another piece of play. He has load of potential, he’s like a tall, skinny Mark Viduka.
Encouragingly, there were loads of promising youngsters running around which suggests that this club, unlike their Melbourne rival will place an emphasis on developing talent.
To sum up, I don’t know what’s going on at Fairfax.
They do own 3AW – the anti-football station of Melbourne.
Maybe, they are going to put their eggs in the one basket.
Or maybe, they don’t like Heart because they are sponsored by the Herald Sun.
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
So Silkstone is AFL biased?
Wow heard it all.
I dont mind Silkstone, but I think you’ll find he writes about both sports and has on more than occasion stuck the boot into AFL and criticised sports fans for not embracing more than one sport.
Greg Baum would have an AFL bias, but does write about many sports and is not in the same corrosive class as say a Patrick Smith.
Methinks this article is a little too sensitive.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:19am | Report comment
Redb – Where did I say Dan’s AFL biased?? Get some glasses.
Dan’s a very good football writer.
Its just that his match report looks like it was written by a Victory supporter
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:34am | Report comment
It was a more general comment to the article, Art.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:39am | Report comment
redb – you should be more precise redb.
You directed it to me in and it was wrong.
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:44am | Report comment
Well I was thinking you should rebutt the assertion that Silkstone is AFL biased as you should know better, then it turned into a wider commentary. Gee sensitive types
AndyRoo said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:46am | Report comment
Poor Art, your getting him into a fight with another football journo redb.
I think Art has been around the Roar for yonks with barely a stir other than creating some good chukles but now has sparked two replies from non author journalists (Fink being the other) in a week.
I knew you were a trouble maker Art
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:48am | Report comment
AndyRoo,
Art has only one redeeming feature!… his fondness for the colours red and black.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Andyroo – don’t blame me for this one, my name is not Davidde
I read and comment respectfully on most of Dan’s blogs.
AndyRoo said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
Looking on the bright side I had never heard of the national times or dan’s blog before today. Just read his view fo the final and loved it, added the site to favorites.
One thing for sure after reading just a handful of comments you have to have a thick skin to be a football journo in Australia.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Wonderful column Davidde. You’ve expressed many of the thoughts I’ve wanted to get off my chest.
Quite simply, I don’t bother using the Melbourne Age or Herald Sun for my Football news and I’m glad MVFC has severed it’s relationship with the paper.
Greg Baum is a football illiterate as is Russ Hinds and the rest of the “sports team” at the Melbourne Age and, by putting up with garbage written about Football by his colleagues, I have no respect for Michael Lynch and can only assume he is just an obsequious lackey, who values his weekly salary more than his integrity as a football journalist.
And, of course, at the top of this ant-hill of football knowledge we have Fairfax’s “football expert” at the SMH- Michael Cockerill.
I don’t know if Mike has any Football credentials, but his articles demonstrate an truly unsophisticated grasp of the technical and tactical qualities required for playing Football.
PS: Just to prove I’m not an obsequious lackey myself (!) I cannot agree with you assessment of MVFC as “Ernie Merrick’s men, with their … kick and rush football” and, for all their neat passes out of defence and through the midfield, Heart either panicked or were lost when they got anywhere near the penalty box, and, from what I saw at the game last night, Heart will struggle to score a goal!
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Your joking on Michael Lynch. Lynch is undoubtably a soccer journo but on more than one occasion has shown he is not a zealout and often gets criticised by zealouts for not driving the hard line (like a Foster).
Lynch has far more crediblity as a journalist than half the journos of all codes out there.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
I never said Lynch is not credible.
Rather, I said that:
“by putting up with garbage written about Football by his (Melbourne Age) colleagues, I have no respect for Michael Lynch and can only assume he is just an obsequious lackey, who values his weekly salary more than his integrity as a football journalist.”
Cockerill, however, has no credibility – in my mind – as a Football jouro or analyst.
AndyRoo said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:29am | Report comment
I don’t what you expect Lynch to do other than try and write 3 pieces a day by himself?
Lynch should be rated on his articles not on his ability to run The Age.
Also just because he is a football writer doesn’t mean he has to be a mindless cheer leader, credit to Redb for sticking up for him
And the fact that Redb stuck up for him shows by acting responsibly he garners credibility and respect, surely that’s better for Football than another Foster?
Since the Back Page is in the news today I would say John Anderson is better for AFL than Brian Taylor.
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Yep and Lynch on more than one occasion has stated he is not a soccer-football cheerleader he will do his job and post all views whether they are complimentary or not.
Like I said more credibility than most and gets criticised by the zealouts like Fussball for it.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:46am | Report comment
AndyRoo –
I guess I just expect Lynch to “stick up for football” as Davidde has just done in this column today. I don’t expect Lynch to be emotional; simply use facts to refute the inaccuracies when they are stated by his colleagues.
If a Football analyst (Murray, Foster, Bosnich, Slater, Zelic, etc.) wrote garbage about AFL or NRL, I’d expect the AFL or NRL analysts to refute the rubbish that was written.
The thing is Football analysts simply have not time to comment about other sports – either because:
a) they have no interest in the other sports or
b) with a professional Football match being played virtually 24x7x365, there’s enough Football content to keep them busy.
Michael C said | July 15th 2010 @ 2:29pm | Report comment
funny -
messers Lynch and Cockerill often struggle with ‘facts’.
Baz35 said | July 16th 2010 @ 8:53am | Report comment
“football” “analysts” don’t comment about other sports in this country???? And you’ve gonna on to identify Murray and Foster!
now i have heard it all!!!
Atawhai Drive said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
Fussball, that’s a wonderful Freudian slip . . . Russ Hinds indeed!
I’m sure you meant to write Richard Hinds. I’m also sure you remember Russ Hinze, Queensland’s Minister for Everything in the Bjelke-Petersen era and possessor of the world’s biggest beer gut.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
ooops – my mistake!! You are absolutely right and thanks for the correction Atawhai Drive … the shame is that I’m not sure for which of the two gentleman I would have less respect!
Michael C said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:23am | Report comment
I think you’ll find that Dan Silkstone is a card carrying soccer follower – - – at very least, he’s had published about 5 soccer articles for every one ‘AFL related’ article and he certainly doesn’t cover ‘main stream’ AFL (i.e. match wraps, etc) – - his AFL content tends to be the left of field stuff such as AFL in South Africa and things like that. He’s not held back in potting the AFL (often quite factually incorrectly re stadiums etc around WC bids) and he (I’m not sure if he still does) was running a bit of a blog that was pretty well more soccer centric).
Seems to me you’re trying your darndest to be offended???
so, be careful about labelling very much soccer friendly authors like Silkstone as an AFL person.
btw – how about this as a perspective on it:
does it not seem apt that they throw both a soccer writer (Silkstone – - you can debate his credentials all you like), and a more general (AFL slant) writer at it – - as, that will provide article fodder for the broader demographic of readers to access the ‘event’ and Hearts.
Target audience my friend. You should be glad that Baum (the ‘branding’ of his name) is associated to a story about Heart as that alone does more to make non-soccer people read about Heart in the Age than a whole host of Lynch/Cockerill or whomever Pom pom pieces would.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Michael C -
After 2 consequtive World Cup appearances and the best football just a remote or mouse click away, if someone still needs to read articles by Baum, Hinds, Lynch or Cockerill to be convinced about the Beauty of Football, I reckon they are not, and never will be, True Football Believers.
In my opinion, there are enough True Believers in Australia that we don’t need to worry about appeasing “non-soccer people”.
I say the FFA should focus on regaining our existing customers – let’s get every REAL Football person to regularly attend HAL matches and then, I’d be surprised if there’s still room in the stadia for the “bandwagon event watchers” and those that are still “window shopping” and “kicking tyres” about accepting Football.
BigAl said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Exactly ! . . . so why do people (like the author) take offence so easily ???
– and lets face it, it WAS an overpriced micky mouse game!
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:05am | Report comment
I didn’t think the author is taking offence.
Rather, I felt the author is simply standing up and fighting back when he hears or reads garbage about Football and I say BRAVO and encourage all football fans to do the same.
For far too long, Football fans have quietly sat by when rubbish was written, or poor analysis was offered, about Football.
The evolution of the media through which opinions are disseminated means Football fans are now able to articulate our thoughts without being arbitrarily gagged.
AndyRoo said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:21am | Report comment
Michael C’s point is an AFL fan is more likely to read Baum than Lynch, and I see his point as Baum is better at writing for a broad base.
I actually think they got the mix right with the football journalist (Silkstone) doing the match report and the general sports reporter (Baum) doing the “event” coverage.
Idealy (and probably unrealistically) since it’s their first game in Melbourne and midweek you would also probably have a second “event” piece but on a different angle (probably made up of quote snippets from the fans in the Heart fan area, those who bought merchandise and some heart staff). Maybe that piece would come later in the week, i.e. stored away for the Sunday paper or such.
The broad base is important, you always need to appeal to both hard core and casuals because you always need to appeal to both. Even the BBC do so with their world cup coverage.
What I would like too see is the raising of the bar of Football journalism. I still think their is a hang over from the days when you had to write an “issues” article to get published in regards to football and I would love too see match reports that aren’t so dumbed down. I give Silkstones report a pass, Art has pointed out big flaws in it* but the bar is fairly low in Australia.
The dumbing down of coverage isn’t just a Football issue though and certainly doesn’t just effect Australia either. I would love to see more Tony Tannous style match reports and previews because firstly I enjoy them and secondly it opens people’s eyes to what footballs really about and lets them know there is another layer.
Take Rugby Union, I am sure plenty of people will get into the world cup next year based on Australia vs NZ, but the bandwagon will leave unfulfilled and none the wiser unless there is decent coverage that goes deeper than the jingoistic rubbish that 7 dish out.
* Hearing about a young player like Eli Babalj coming on and making an immression agaisnt Everton should be one of the stories of the night, it’s the type of thing that football fans love to hear about. Leaving it out is a monumental miss.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:47pm | Report comment
What an excellent post Andyroo.
By the way – Babalj better turn into a Socceroo or I am toast
Michael C said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
Art -
any credit flowing back a little further?????
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
Yes my – I should credit you as well Michael C.
The Roar is one big dialectic which is why I enjoy it so much
There is argument and counter-argument and from all that masses of carbon we can produce a little diamond like Andyroo’s effort
Baz35 said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:59am | Report comment
I agree that Silkstone is first and foremost a soccer man, which he was at the WC and why he is one of the most “briefed” by FFA sources when they want to have a crack at the AFL. He also wrote that analytically weak and misleading article about AFl memberships
As a victim though, I can vouch that DS has written at least one AFL match report – The Collingwood Hawthorn game from early in the year. It was dreadful.
Michael C said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:31am | Report comment
btw -
Baums article is not so much an anti soccer or anything like that – - however, is observational about a very key issue to several codes – - that of the ’2nd team’ in a market with a reasonably well established current one.
SFC and Sydney will be going through this process.
In the AFL we’ve seen relative success in Perth with Fremantle with a clearly distinct ‘identity’,
in Adelaide that clearly distinct identity seems to hamper Port Power
in NRL, they finally seemingly got it right with Gold Coast vs Broncos, meanwhile the HAL still waits to see how GCU will settle down and whether the Roar will indeed settle down.
The notion put by Baum around :
In truth, the making of Heart is also about the dividing of hearts, and perhaps their breaking, too. United behind Victory these past five years, Melburnians again must choose. It won’t be easy. The conundrum is personified by Tony Ising, one of Victory’s founders, seen yesterday in a red-and-white tie. It is half a defection: he now works for Westpac, Heart’s sponsor.
is fairly poignant,
again, in AFL circles, there’s much discussion around a potential similar occurrence with Sydney vs GWS, and Lions vs GCFC. The main difference there is that both new clubs have a 2 year ‘birthing’ process to move through a juvenile phase into full ‘adulthood’ – - – the Hearts however, first appeared a few days back in Morwell of all places and now, is here, blu-tacked together ready to fight out V6 of the HAL.
It IS actually an interesting general sports story – - especially in the context of not just soccer but ALL football codes in Australia……heck……we might even see a RU vs RL example of this dividing of hearts when the new Melb Super 15 side enters and perhaps Storm might suffer through a heart divisioning????
DB said | July 15th 2010 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Silkstone was the same reporter having a go at AFL memberships WRT 3 game memberships etc but making no mention of 17 game memberships, from what I’ve read he certainly has a soccer slant
Dan Silkstone said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:08am | Report comment
So I just got an email from the author of this piece inviting me to respond. Normally I wouldn’t bother, particularly being at home on the couch sweating out a nasty bout of bronchitis. But curiosity got the better of me, so I clicked on the link and read it. Given the ludicrous inaccuracy of some of the claims, I suppose I have to respond.
To begin with, then, I am not, in any way, “primarily an AFL writer”. My job title is Senior Sportswriter and my brief is to write about whatever sport I care about. I care very much about football.
I have covered the A-League for several years, have covered Australia’s bid for the 2022 World Cup extensively, covered the football tournament at the 2008 Olympcs and have just returned from South Africa where I covered the World Cup itself.
I have written about virtually every Socceroo match in Melbourne in recent years. I also have a regular blog at The National Times, which frequently discusses football matters. The latest one is at http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/blogs/balls/why-everyone-else-is-wrong-about-the-world-cup-final/20100713-108f7.html
For what it’s worth, and I can’t believe I’m even explaining this but here goes anyway, I have played football since I was five years of age, was a regular attendee of the old NSL and attended every single match of the Victory’s debut season — including all of the pre-season matches when there were barely a few hundred people at Olympic Park. I have seldom missed one since. I also cover athletics, Olympics, sports politics and — yes — AFL football.
It’s not my job to defend Greg Baum (he’s more than capable of that himself) but I can tell you that Etihad Stadium alone distributed 5000 complimentary tickets to this game, that others were also distributing them and that it was an open secret that Melbourne was awash with free tickets in the days leading up to the match, so concerned were organisers that they had sold VERY FEW. There was also deep discounting in a desperate attempt to move tickets. Tickets sales lagged miles behind even Brisbane, where Tim Cahill, the major drawcard, is not playing. It was regarded by most within the game as a planning disaster to have scheduled the match at Etihad and to have set ticket prices so high. I would imagine that the Heart’s small but committed fan base feels much the same way about being denied the opportunity to make a high-profile debut at their new home.
You mention Sebastian Hasset being an excellent football journo, indeed he is. I can confirm that I watched the entire match sitting next to him and that — again while I don’t speak for him — he certainly shared my view that it was a dour spectacle played before a virtually mute crowd of mostly Everton fans. His exact words may have been more colourful than that.
I am aware that this is not the Heart’s first game, nevertheless it was their unveiling in Melbourne, the city that they represent. You talk about The Age’s coverage, I’m not sure if you saw the paper the day before. The Heart was on the cover of the sport section and there were three lengthy pieces about the game, all written by me. A long interview with coach John Van’t Schip — which begins by talking about the friendly in Morwell (the one you suggest I am ignorant about) also ran in last Saturday’s paper.
You suggest we are blase in our coverage of the sport. I’d suggest to you that a front page story and two stories inside sport FOR A MEANINGLESS PRE-SEASON FRIENDLY is a fair amount of coverage. But once there our job is not to cheerlead, it is to report.
If you seriously believe that this club was created because of a clearcut demand for a second team in Melbourne — a demand that made the creation of such a club not only economically feasible but necessary — then, with all due respect, you do not know what you are talking about. Not even the FFA would suggest that.
This club is a punt, a hunch, a desire to grow a market that seems to have stabilised or even stalled in Melbourne. I hope it succeeds but that is not guaranteed. The Heart have been impressive in how they have gone about creating their image. But the battle they face is an uphill one.
To the person who commented that there was nothing about Babalj, there certainly was in the piece that I filed. Filing on the final whistle is a tricky business that means pieces are often necessarily structured in a certain way — effectively with the start of the game at the top and the end at the bottom. When the piece gets cut from the bottom in the subedting process you sometimes lose some things. But yes, it was a nice cameo.
I’ve never heard of you, Davidde, though I have at least taken the opportunity to ensure I spelled your name correctly (a courtesy you do not appear to have extended to me). In your email to me you say you have been away from Australia, have just returned and intend to establish yourself as a journalist. I wish you luck, hope you manage to find a paying job and ask only that you make sure you are informed before you speak. As much, at least, as any of us ever are.
And Roar readers, you should definitely check out my blog. It’s MUCH better written than this.
Art Sapphire said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Thanks for the explanation Dan, the match report read like you went home at half time because of your bronchitis.
I’ll have a word with those sub-editors if I were you.
Anyway, I’m pretty optimistic about Heart. All great footballing cities are built on rivalries.
Melbourne can choose the blue side or the red side. It will be great
General Ashnak said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Well done Dan, I think your response was well measured and I must extend a big thank you for your honesty and forthwritness. I look forward to my subscription to your blog.
BigAl said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:42am | Report comment
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Bingo !! – mr german – Football is our life – please verdauen this !
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:42am | Report comment
From the horses mouth so to speak.
I hope Davidde takes note as his article is overly sensitive, something that is too common from soccer journos who jump at shadows and can’t cop constructive criticism of their sport.
Melbourne Heart has a tough road ahead.
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
Redb-
I think Football fans are happy to cop “constructive criticism” from people, who have Football credentials.
So, when Johan Cruyff criticises the Dutch team for playing “anti-football in 2010″ Football fans don’t take offence, they take notice.
If “the Kaiser” before and during previous WCs (2002, 2006) has been scathing in his assessment of The German National Team, we don’t take offence, the world stops and reads further.
And, of course, if Maradonna suggests his critics in the media engage in acts that are still illegal between consenting adults in certain US States, the world doesn’t take offence because Diego is, perhaps, the best player that ever lived.
But, when Football-illiterates talk rubbish about Football, henceforth, we’ll fight back.
PS: How would you feel if Les Murray decided to write a weekly negative piece about the least competitive or most boring AFL match played that week-end?
Would you simply say:
a) “BRAVO! Les is entitled to his opinion and, at least his articles provide AFL exposure to the non-AFL demographic”; or
b) “Les has no AFL-knowledge/credentials and his opinions about AFL are ignorant and should be ignored”?
JamesP said | July 15th 2010 @ 5:25pm | Report comment
How can you possibly bring up Les Murray. Les is 100% soccer all the way. Dan is clearly 50/50 (if not more leaning towards soccer).
Stupid comparison
Fussball ist unser leben said | July 15th 2010 @ 5:47pm | Report comment
At the Melbourne Age: Baum is 100% AFL, Hinds is 100% AFL, Niall is 100% AFL
At the Daily Telegraph: R Wilson is 100% NRL
At the Herald Sun: Mike Sheehan is 100% AFL and Neil Mitchell is 100% AFL
All these Football-illiterates have, at some stage, felt the urge to write 1,000 word op-eds on the underlying issue of “why they think Football is a terrible sport”.
Baz35 said | July 16th 2010 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Neil mitchell is a talk back radio host.
Mick Sheehan write a load of shyte pretty much every day, and once every four years that might include a circa 1970 rubbishing of soccer.
I had to put up with Dan writing a rubbish match report earlier this year for my team which showed a sub-litereate understanding of the modern game (I missed the match as well which made it extra disappointing!). Than there was the amateurish membership figures article and on at least two occassion’s Dan has been the go to man for an “FFA source” trying to slander the AFL. I would prefer he never wrote about Australian football
ajb said | July 16th 2010 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
australian football. what is australian football? australian rules football or australian association football? neither can lay claim to the title in this context
Country Victoria said | July 16th 2010 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Football originated in England, records show as far back as the 13th century found in church records, receipt for the hire of church hall. And please correct me, the word soccer refers to ‘English’ football Association only or such?
Phil E Buster said | July 15th 2010 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Dan, thanks for taking the time to respond where you really didn’t have to. I have not read much of your stuff before (one or two articles), but having read your world cup summary I must say I was pleasantly surprised at the refreshing angle you took on it. Perhaps you could contribute a few articles to the Roar?
Midfielder said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Thanks Dan BTW have always like your stuff so will pop over and have a look at your blogg…
Nelson said | July 15th 2010 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Great response, Dan. Regular readers of your articles know where you are coming from. Get well soon.
Country Victoria said | July 15th 2010 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
Dan, there was a crowd of over 19,000. But are there complimentary tickets at AFL games or does this only happen in football.
And, The Age sports coverage on football is terrible its just Aussie Rules that keeps hits you in the face, we haven’t got anything else indeep to read about, it would be good to have SPORTS and not just Aussie Rules.
Even here (regional Victoria) with ABC radio Albury/Wondong they have a sports programe Mondays,Thurdays and Friday its just on Aussie Rules and nothing else, Ya they call it the Sports Report!!
There is more ‘SPORTS’ with THE ROAR this is good. Your linked article (Nationaltimes) got me bored from the start.
Redb said | July 15th 2010 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
CV,
I’ll give you a recent example to prove your comments are rubbish.
Fairfax papers – the AGE and SMH both carried major sports coverage on line of the recent World Cup, the AGE, the Melbourne based paper ran the World Cup news in front of anything AFL every day for the whole 4 weeks of the tournament (I dont have a problem with it just highlighting – the Olympics would get the same treatment) , the Sydney version kept the League stories first up.
You live in country Victoria, what about you move to country NSW where youl will get similiar coverage of the dominant sport. I dont think we’ll miss you
Country Victoria said | July 15th 2010 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Redb -
I am talking about sports reporting in Victoria in general of local and Newspaper reports are mostly on Aussie Rules – The only time there is decent football coverage is when the World Cup Football is on. You will see who is talking rubbish then redb – But you have to agree The Age is most all Aussie Rules with Football every 4 years!
I lived in NSW for over 12 years, But they wanted me back in Victoria, I was missed!
Beaver fever said | July 15th 2010 @ 6:50pm | Report comment
Plenty of decent football in country Victoria roman, attempted to stop any more facilities for Australian football being built in country towns roman ??.
Don said | July 15th 2010 @ 5:31pm | Report comment
Enjoy your Football writing Dan, keep it up. But…didn’t your article state that the Victory don’t play at AAMI Park?
whiskeymac said | July 15th 2010 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
cheers dan – great response and even though it’s in many ways a pity you felt you had to respond, i for one, am certainly glad you did. and yes, i will check out your blog. nice one.
and davidde – great article for the roar. bit of this bit of that and a good stoush in the middle. entertainment indeed!
another good story which i saw in that bastion of journalism today (MX) by News Limited – Ruka three years at Hertha Berlin….. as much coverage as Henry to red bulls (worst name for a football club?)