It’s time for the Wallabies to defeat the Boks
By Spiro Zavos, 19 Jul 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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The Springboks go to their hoodoo ground at Brisbane on Saturday night ready to be put to the sword by the Wallabies. The 2007 RWC champions are an aging, leaden-footed, lacking-in-ideas imitation of the great side of the last three years.
Without the genius of Fourie du Preez they play their kick-chase, force penalties game as if they are painting by numbers.
Beaten 31-17 and four tries to two, the Springboks sent out a side against the All Blacks that had 700 caps, the most experienced South African side of all time. The side has only one new 2010 cap, the impressive Francois Louw.
The senior forwards, particularly, have reached their used-by date.
John Smit looks to be massively over-weight. The huge back row are flat wicket bullies who do not front up when the going gets fast and furious. And their second row, especially 33 year-old Victor Matfield, provides nothing around the field except at lineout time.
It has been noticeable, for instance, that the Springboks have not been able to mount even one rolling maul (the staple of the Bulls dominance in 2009 and 2010) in two Tests.
There is no variety or cunning in the backs without du Preez, either.
Bryan Habana seems to have lost his eagerness to chase everything. The rest of the backs are solid but without the sort of skills and footwork of most of the All Blacks and the Wallabies backs.
The All Blacks run-on side had 596 caps. During the Test there were four new 2010 caps on the field, with Aaron Cruden, Sam Whitelock, Israel Dagg and Renee Ranger. Both Ranger and Dagg scored tries. Both played in a way, aside from Ranger’s occasional handling lapses, that suggests that will be super-stars in the future.
Dagg’s try was the sort of genius running effort that a young Habana or Christian Cullen would have been thrilled to have pulled off in their prime. It was try 152 by the All Blacks against the Springboks, and one of the best individual efforts in that tally.
I always believe that a well-selected side has growth built into it. The All Blacks have this.
The Springboks, however, remind me of Disraeli’s joke about Gladstone’s ageing front bench in his last administration that they were “a range of extinct volcanoes.”
Last Monday I suggested that the Springboks might resort to more thuggery to get their game plan working. The referee Alain Rolland, an Irishman and a splendid referee on the night, was obviously expecting something of the same thing when he reversed a penalty after three minutes of play and yellow-carded Danie Rossouw.
Initially it seemed like the yellow card was harsh. But replays on YouTube suggested that Rossouw had flicked his fingers across and into Richie McCaw’s eyes and then kneed him on the ground. This is reckless play by any standards and the yellow card was justified. The referee was standing virtually right beside Rossouw so he saw every part of the incident.
It will be interesting to see if the Springboks change their side significantly for the Test at Brisbane.
The odds are that they won’t. For right now the back-up players are very much in the same old mould of the starting side. Ruan Pienaar, for instance, didn’t bring much difference to the game plan when he came on for Ricky Januarie.
So the game the Wallabies will have to beat at Brisbane will be the kick-chase and pressure game of the last three years. The difference for the Springboks and the Wallabies is that the chase has gone out of this game, for the time being. Some of the venom in the forwards play has gone too.
And most importantly, the tackled ball rulings now favours the side with the ball in hand. This change was not refereed particularly well at Auckland by Alun Lewis who gave something like seven consecutive penalties to the out-played Springboks during the middle part of the Test. Rolland, though, did well and the penalty count was ten to New Zealand, and nine to South Africa.
The Springboks were lucky that on a foul Wellington night Daniel Carter missed six kicks, most of which he would normally kick.
The tackled ball ruling has been exploited by the All Blacks by keeping the ball in hand for long periods of time. The Wallabies will have to play a similar game. But with a difference. The All Blacks pack was too strong for the Springboks with the consequence that they won the advantage line battle easily.
It is doubtful if the Wallabies pack is at the same level of power and have the same technique of a low body height when charging into the opposition as the All Blacks. Most the ball running by the Wallabies will have to be done by the backs with the ball moved out wider more often than the All Blacks have done this season.
The effect of the different styles of keeping the ball in hand, though, is the same. The Springboks do not seem to have the aerobic fitness to last out this type of game, or to launch a similar type of ball-in-hand game themselves.
One other point, too. There has not been much discussion of the change in the All Blacks’ tackling style. They have given up the ball-and-all style of last season. Whenever they can, they tackle low. The Springboks runners toppled to the ground like felled logs.
As soon as the runner hit the ground with this type of tackle, the second tackler can make a play for the ball. This led to several important turnovers, including one by McCaw after the Springboks had driven from a 5m lineout.
According to an interesting article in the Sun Herald by Josh Rakic, Robbie Deans ran a backline at last Friday’s training session of Will Genia, Quade Cooper, Matt Giteau, Rob Horne, Adam Ashley Cooper, Drew Mitchell and James O’Connor.
If this is the backline then it suggests a wide game rather than hitting the middle of the field with Anthony Faingaa, the Reds inside centre. Although you’d expect Faingaa to feature some time in the Test.
There has also been talk, too, of a backrow of Scott Higginbottom and Rocky Elsom as flankers and David Pocock at number 8.
The idea here is to have two runners and a digger at number 8 coming in as the second tackler. Tim Horan has also suggested that Elsom should play wider from general play to give the Wallabies some sort of bulk in the middle of the field.
After the demolition job done on the Springboks by the All Blacks it is clear that now is the time for the Wallabies to do the same thing. Although the Springboks have played two Tri-Nations Tests and the Wallabies yet to start in this season’s series, both sides have the same number of competition points: none.
The only acceptable result next Saturday night is a Wallaby victory.
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July 19th 2010 @ 8:41am
TembaVJ said | July 19th 2010 @ 8:41am | Report comment
Good on the AB’s, they played a good game once again. Ill say this that the ref warned McCaw 3 times in the second half, Danie got none. I thinking Bakkies has cost the boks whilst not even playing. McCaw provoked Ressouw knowing that this would result in some points.
But in the end nothing would have given SA the win, not with the selection. SA is probably the only county in the world that would pick both their 5 and 6 place hookers in the country to play for the national squad. As too the half back, January did not even start for the stormers, he is probably ranked 6-8 in SA. Sure he made one tri possible but that is about it in 160 minutes of rugby.
Hougard has been Du PReez under study for a while now, he is a talented player and wont take 6 months to get to the break down, its time he gets his place and send fattie January home.
Very frustrating for a Boks fan, I am so disapointed, not in losing but in the way we are losing.
But AB’s have done what every team is expected to do, win their home games. Good on them they did that with bonus points.
July 19th 2010 @ 8:50am
darwin stubby said | July 19th 2010 @ 8:50am | Report comment
I believe it to be rather rare for a ref to warn a player who runs his fingers across an opponent’s face, near the eyes …. dumb action which was correctly dealt with
July 19th 2010 @ 9:00am
TembaVJ said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:00am | Report comment
No doubt about it DS I wonder though if the ref sent him off for that, what did the ref say when he yellowed him? Did the ref see the “contact to the eye region” I could remember McCaw striking too.
July 19th 2010 @ 8:58am
Ben S said | July 19th 2010 @ 8:58am | Report comment
‘McCaw provoked Ressouw knowing that this would result in some points.’
Rossouw tapped McCaw’s head whilst he was on the ground looking in the opposite direction, McCaw then pushed Rossouw away whilst still on the ground. Rossouw then kneed McCaw. No provocation came from McCaw. Rossouw foolishly initiated the scenario.
‘Ill say this that the ref warned McCaw 3 times in the second half’
I don’t think the referee did warn McCaw 3 times in the 2nd half.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:15am
TembaVJ said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:15am | Report comment
He did watch the game again, the ref spoke to him and then warned him twice after that. It s fine mate I don’t think the boks deserve to win just saying I cant help but feel they were a little hard done by. The SB got pinged every time they slowed the ball, Ab’s flying over the ruck all the time. But when the boks were in the AB’s 22 slowing of the ball was allowed. Look I am sure ill get scorned here for ref bashing and bad loser so ill say again the first game was spot on but this last game was I watched it twice now and just wonder what would have happened had we used southern refs.
Please don’t go on a rampage, I believe that the AB’s deserve to win they played awesome rugby.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:20am
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:20am | Report comment
Temba – McCaw was warned in the 43rd minute for his second penalty in the 22. Then in the 62nd minute, he was given a team warning for an offence by another player (Carter, I think). In the 72nd minute he was penalised for playing the ball off his feet, but that was in the Bok’s half.
After his warning not to commit another penalty in the 22, he didn’t concede another penalty for nearly half an hour and it was in the other team’s half.
And penalties were 10-9 to the AB’s, so they hardly got a free ride from the ref.
July 21st 2010 @ 8:45pm
Ai Rui Sheng said | July 21st 2010 @ 8:45pm | Report comment
But he should have given three more yellows to the Bokke and a red!
July 19th 2010 @ 9:19am
Ben S said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
I don’t think you’re being ungracious, Temba, I just disagree with what you’re saying re: Rossouw and McCaw. We can argue about whether Rossouw deserved a yellow card all day and all night, but at the end of the day what he did was unecessary. It was harmless, but unecessary… and silly.
Jerry has explained re: McCaw’s ‘warnings’.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:13am
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Temba – the ref didn’t warn McCaw 3 times, he warned him twice. And the second was a team warning given to him as captain, not for an offence he’d committed.
And as Ben has pointed out, it was Roussow who initiated the scuffle. His rub of Richie’s face wasn’t a serious gouge attempt, but it was obviously intended to niggle and provoke a reaction. If you think he’s the innocent here, you’re ridiculously one eyed to the point of parody.
July 19th 2010 @ 12:48pm
Justin said | July 19th 2010 @ 12:48pm | Report comment
Jerry McCaw was warned twice. Rolland infact said “7 that is the second time down here” or words to that effect. He should have been binned. Even Kiwi mates of mine were laughing that he didnt.
July 19th 2010 @ 1:29pm
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
Rolland did say that. That was his first warning, in the 42nd minute.
His second warning was a general team warning – Rolland made that very clear. The matter was confused as the commentators assumed McCaw had been penalised when Rolland called him over. He wasn’t the player penalised and the warning was given to him as captain rather than as a player.
God’s sake, this isn’t rocket science.
July 19th 2010 @ 1:33pm
Short-Blind. said | July 19th 2010 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
This is exactly my point in the other blog about this game and what McCaw (particularly) and others get away with. Why do pros who know the rules even need to be warned twice? Warn them once and then use yellow – make that a standard brief to all players and refs – behaviours will then change and sharks like McCaw who operate on the fence will be more reluctant to slow the oppo’s attacking ball when on a roll.
July 20th 2010 @ 5:12am
Franco Ozzie said | July 20th 2010 @ 5:12am | Report comment
Mate if that flick of the temple area is a card for ‘initiating’ theN Sean fitzpatrick would have half the Caps he got..
There was a home blow no doubts. Botha was carded for slowing up no warning in 12th minute, AB’s got all kinds of warnings, but were still better team result wise.. everyone was probably just denied a better contest Rossouw was subbed and whole plan changed as Rolland wld probably have ‘redded’ him later, its material effect..
Right team still won though.
July 19th 2010 @ 10:24am
Cotter said | July 19th 2010 @ 10:24am | Report comment
I’ve got an idea. Don’t deliberately put your fingers anywhere near an opposing players eyes. Especially when you are playing in a team where the bloke you’ve replaced has just been thrown out for head butting and another bloke in your team has previously been done for eye gouging. And especially when you are playing in a team whose coach has defended both of those actions. Having said that, I agree that Bakkies has cost the Boks and it is a pity it was Roussow because he is a player I admire. Fortunately I believe (hope) it was a one off act of stupidity and when the Boks are back, as they most certainly will be, I think Roussow will turn out to be one of their best.
July 20th 2010 @ 5:18am
Franco Ozzie said | July 20th 2010 @ 5:18am | Report comment
So many ‘keep hand away from face’ crowd forget that Thorn after the whistle had blown, picked JSmit up speared him end of his entire series.. caused massive fracas, Oz ref bottled card and was left to citing commission, also NZ soil.
How does that compare to what Rossouw did to McCaw?, McCaw played it up like a diving footballer as if something heinous happened and homer ref bought..
Once again still right result just poor contest for me and double standed officiating, Can Oz have Rolland too , for Brisbane?
July 20th 2010 @ 5:26am
Franco Ozzie said | July 20th 2010 @ 5:26am | Report comment
here is the link of Thorn after whistle effort for the ‘holy than thou’ we play clean others ‘dirty Bastrds Brigade’
July 19th 2010 @ 12:09pm
soapit said | July 19th 2010 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
yep, refs dont always get it right (compared to my opinion) but referreeing does have subjective elements and if ur mucking about with someones eyes you’re putting your fate in their hands.
July 19th 2010 @ 12:21pm
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
for goodness sake people – Danie was sent off for kicking, as in the use of the boot on the prone player. Although given the his contact in striking was a good as the English football teams world cup campaign you have to wonder if Mr Rolland was premeditated in cooling things down by carding the first offender
July 19th 2010 @ 8:55am
Redback said | July 19th 2010 @ 8:55am | Report comment
All blacks ran the ball the springboks kicked the ball.Simple.
July 19th 2010 @ 8:55am
stillmissit said | July 19th 2010 @ 8:55am | Report comment
Guys you need a brain scan if you think the Springboks will come here deflated and demoralised. They will see this as the only opportunity to go home with a substantial win and nothing less will appease the SA public.
I hope the boys go well against them but this is a big ask for our group if they don’t get their minds right in defence and use their opportunities with gusto then it could be a hard day. I am hoping to see Cameron Shepherd at full back at some stage as I thought he was outstanding prior to breaking his leg in 2008.
Our MO seems to be ‘they look like we can beat them’ and we lose easily.
July 19th 2010 @ 3:55pm
LeftArmSpinner said | July 19th 2010 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
SMI, so true
July 19th 2010 @ 9:08am
kingplaymaker said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Of course if the Wallabies want to have a hope in the Tri-nations they need to win here, however beating South Africa is not as easy at the All Blacks made it seem.
The backline Deans looks like using is worryingly light. It’s important to remember the Reds had Chambers and Faiingaa, two 100kg players, as well as speedy runners while the All Blacks had Nonu. I would be tempted to bring Shepherd in somewhere, ditch Horne who hasn’t looked great so far at international level anyway, replace him with the larger Faiingaa, and then there would be some big players knocking around.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:33am
GC said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:33am | Report comment
Faingaa may play like a 100kg player, but he’s nowhere near that weight. More like 90kg. As is Diggers. It’s not how much you weigh, it’s how you use your weight – which kind of negates your whole point.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:09am
Behind Enemy Lines said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:09am | Report comment
I’m pretty shocked to hear all this talk of the Springboks being done for. They were beaten by an outstanding All Blacks team in the first match and had 10 points put on them in the first 15 minutes while a man down. A little bit of discipline and a much less potent attacking team in the Wallabies would suggest that this weekends game is likely to be a lot closer than the hype is predicting. I really hope the Wallabies click this weekend and set up a good build up for the Bledisloe in Melbourne but don’t forget that the Wallabies often lapse in to the aimless kicking option with little or no follow through.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:10am
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
All hail the phoenix that is the mighty All Blacks. They have risen from the ashes of ’09 and reassumed thier mantle as the permier side in world rugby. Sensational performance.
As for my beloved Boks. Very very dissapointing – there was the odd moment but they were lucky to be close in the final quarter. A very jaded disjointed effort and I can see no way forward than shaking up the establishment a bit. As Spiro alludes to every week we are missing du Preez and for good reason, he IS our Carter. The visionary general on which most the play is based but like losing Carter last year the Boks like the ABs need to adapt. I would like to see a more Stormers aligned game plan in the Bok squad – the players are there they just need license to attack. Aplon and de Jongh to start and Pienaar to replace Januarie. Bekker to partner Rossouw in the second row. I would also like more fizz in the front row and maybe its time to get Liebenberg or G Botha in camp. Lastly Duane Vermuelen in for Kanko, Spies to the bench. We are at a point where we need less show ponies and more grafters to get some points in this comp or we might as well get a pot to use that wooden spoon.
lastly as no post would be complete without a bit of ref gripe. Rossouw, looked innocuos, not so much in slow mo but its hard to tell intention. Fine with a yellow if the ref wanted to keep a lid on the game but a penalised shoulder charge would then definitely have warranted one as well. With the game surprisingly in the balance at that point it would have changed everything. I have given up on the McCaw card teflon… anyways enough whinging. Well done to the All Balcks – your 2010 trinations champions in waiting
July 19th 2010 @ 9:16am
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
“Fine with a yellow if the ref wanted to keep a lid on the game but a penalised shoulder charge would then definitely have warranted one as well.”
It wasn’t penalised for a shoulder charge, it was penalised for being high. And obviously it was viewed as a pretty marginal high tackle (well you’d hope so, seeing as it wasn’t high at all) so a card wouldn’t be warranted.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:25am
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:25am | Report comment
hmmm I might have had a few beers by that point but I am pretty sure it was for a ‘high shoulder charge’
July 19th 2010 @ 1:31pm
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
It wasn’t. Lewis (the asst ref who flagged it ) didn’t mention the shoulder charge he said it was high. As it happens, it wasn’t either so it’s a bit lame to be complaining he wasn’t carded. Especially when De Villiers got away without even being penalised for a spear deemed worthy of suspension.
July 19th 2010 @ 1:54pm
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Im not that one eyed mate – as soon as JdV put that tackle in I though spear/lift but it wasnt cited till after and for that he got just desserts. However if you are telling me Ranger had his arms in use for that tackle then I would say he had a better chance of pickpocketing him as his hands were that low.
July 19th 2010 @ 2:44pm
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
I honestly didn’t think it was a shoulder charge. He didn’t wrap him up but Kirchner went down too fast so he couldn’t have anyway. His left arm was attempting to wrap Kirchner when the right shoulder hit, as you can see from these pics. They also show it was nowhere near high.
http://forum.planet-rugby.com/index.php?t=getfile&id=24344&private=0
http://forum.planet-rugby.com/index.php?t=getfile&id=24343&private=0
July 19th 2010 @ 3:48pm
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
Links dont work for me but whatever there is no point crying about it any more. The ABs were awesome the Boks woeful. I have nothing but respect for the former and fustration at the latter.
July 19th 2010 @ 3:51pm
Jerry said | July 19th 2010 @ 3:51pm | Report comment
Ah well, best leave it. I can see an argument for it being a shoulder charge, but don’t think it really was. I certainly don’t think Danie deserved a card, but reversing the penalty was probably in order.
July 19th 2010 @ 3:58pm
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
Kind of my point in a way – the only thing in terms of foul play I thought deserved a card wasnt even penalised and that was the JdV tackle on Ranger which was a clear lift/spear. Everything else was either just niggle or unintentional/poorly executed play. I mean we are talking about two giants of the game knocking the stuffing out of each other and it is at times going to get messy. I obviously dont want to see headbutts etc but a little niggle and big hits are part of the entertainment
July 20th 2010 @ 2:05pm
Karlos said | July 20th 2010 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
Oh it’s on!
July 21st 2010 @ 8:50pm
Ai Rui Sheng said | July 21st 2010 @ 8:50pm | Report comment
I thought that Smit’s shoulder charge should have got a red card. Why doesn’t P dah V get a look at the match that really was lost as soon as he was born!
July 19th 2010 @ 9:22am
Hayden said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Rusty, I agree that it must be tough for a Boks fan right now given that this is patently not the best side the Boks could put on the park. Any clue as to why? Politics? PDivvy sniffing the god given glue?
It is interesting to note that up in the NH, it’s the french fans that consistently complain about getting a rough deal with the refs. is this a chicken / egg thing, because they too have form (real or imagined ) when it comes to the rough stuff. The only constant is the perception that McCaw gets preferential treatment. I say Bollix – he’s just twice as good at what he does than the next guy. If I was PDivvy, I’d quit complaining and harvest some of his dna to grow a new one in a test tube. In fact, maybe that was Russouw’s plan – get some of his flesh under his fingernails, transfer it to the lab during his time in ther bin.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:31am
katzilla said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:31am | Report comment
“Well done to the All Balcks – your 2010 trinations champions in waiting”
The great coaching of Robbie Deans might have something to say about that!
July 19th 2010 @ 9:45am
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
chuckle but unless the Wallabies pull something amazing out the bag this weekend -which will of course be based on the Reds game plan as we all know that successful teams do, then I dont see them prising the silver fern wearing gorilla off their back just yet
July 19th 2010 @ 10:37am
Cotter said | July 19th 2010 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Hope you are right Katzilla. On McCaw, as a Wallaby supporter, I am sick of all the cheat calls on this bloke (and embarrassed when we do it). He is fantastic and we’d have him like a shot. IMO he has changed the way he plays this year, his back up and link play is, I believe, a huge key to the AB success. Find or develop someone like him and get on with it.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:28am
M.O.C. said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:28am | Report comment
I think that if the Boks sniff a weakness in the Aussie tight 5 they will bully and bash the Wallabies into the turf. Aussies only hope is to stay tight and tough up front because any frailty in that area will reignite the Boks belief that they can dominate physically. I don’t think the wallaby tight 5 look fit enough to cope with this for an entire game so they will want to get away with an early lead – should be a good one – the battle of the bellies between Smit (looks to have been in a pretty good paddock) and the chubby Aussie props! (ouch!)
July 19th 2010 @ 9:35am
TembaVJ said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Ok so Danie’s eye gouge got no siting but Jean DV got 2 weeks for a spear tackle???
What a joke.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:42am
Hayden said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:42am | Report comment
You’re right – Russouw should have been cited too, but then again, the Boks always get the rub of the green.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:45am
Rusty said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:45am | Report comment
I will pay that
July 19th 2010 @ 9:40am
Cameron said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:40am | Report comment
Also there was a nice piece of foot work by Richie when he was lying on the ground at a ruck (wrong side of course) and up came his feet to interfer with a player. If he was any other player (or from various countries) it would have been described as tripping. Nothing for Richie of course.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:52am
ohtani's jacket said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:52am | Report comment
For a guy everyone said was past his best, Richie can still annoy folks.
July 19th 2010 @ 10:00am
Hayden said | July 19th 2010 @ 10:00am | Report comment
Yawn. Have you ever heard the expression ‘clutching at straws’?
July 19th 2010 @ 10:49am
Cameron said | July 19th 2010 @ 10:49am | Report comment
Well if we can’t complain about Richie’s”cheating” what other excuse can we readily offer?? He is having a good season, but probably in a good thing for the AB’s this season (and going forward) he isn’t as much a dominant one-man-band this year. The AB’s seem a more balanced side than in the last few years.
July 20th 2010 @ 5:40am
Franco Ozzie said | July 20th 2010 @ 5:40am | Report comment
Heinrich Brussow played McCaw off the park last year and AB’s faced littany of pens for being second to the Breakdown ball, But NZ were 1st, 2nd & 3rd to ball over last 2 w/e’s by miles as boks had no on ground scrappers and all ball in hand runners, Louw & Burger, Spies, which is mad especially if you play without ball in hand and have January Kicking Duh!
SA miss him, Bizmark DuP for JS, and Francois Steyn at 15, de Jong deserves Wynands place.
July 19th 2010 @ 10:45am
Cotter said | July 19th 2010 @ 10:45am | Report comment
See above
July 19th 2010 @ 12:19pm
Sylvester said | July 19th 2010 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Actuallly, it did look a bit like a trip to me too. I’d need to see a replay see if McCaw already had his leg out and Januarie just tripped himself.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:44am
ohtani's jacket said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Considering how big a factor the All Black midfield was in both Tests, the Wallabies would be much n
better off without Giteau playing, unless he’s prepared to be cut out or to loop around.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:48am
katzilla said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I think he should be at 13 on offense.
Stand wide skip Horne to him and give him options either side.
He may not be great but his distribution out wide should be better then Horne.
July 19th 2010 @ 9:48am
Hayden said | July 19th 2010 @ 9:48am | Report comment
I agree. Giteau is flailing at the moment, and doesn’t have any chemistry with Cooper, who will probably be feeling pretty frisky now that he’s not going to jail.