Melbourne gets a touch of rugby fever
By Spiro Zavos, 30 Jul 2010 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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The Weary Dunlop club put on a superb rugby lunch on Thursday at the Crown Palladium on Melbourne’s Southbank. The lunch was a delight of great rugby talk, gawking at the famous rugby names mingling with the enthusiastic audience, and the sheer joy of seeing rugby fever hit Melbourne.
The lunch was intended, essentially, to show case the Melbourne Rebels and their preparation for Super 15 rugby in 2011.
There was also some animated discussion about Saturday night’s much-anticipated Bledisloe Cup Test, with the ARU’s John O’Neill suggesting that the All Blacks were world rugby’s ‘gold standard’ and Robbie Deans promising that his Wallabies were up for the contest.
We had a perceptive speech from the chairman of the Rebels consortium, Harold Mitchell.
He pointed out that last year’s lunch drew 800 suits and that this year the room was filled to its capacity of 1400 suits paying $200 each.
“Even an AFL club,” he claimed, “would be proud to get this sort of response.”
He announced that the State Government was giving $1.5m towards a state of the art training facility for the Rebels.
The Carlton Football Club was part of the venture and that it was ‘the Melbourne way’ for all the codes to work together to achieve success for the city and the state.
There were a number of AFL notables at the lunch and bearing in mind that the Rebels CEO is the former AFL administrator Ross Oakley the thought came to me that Melbourne is and will be more supportive of the Rebels than, say, Sydney is to a new AFL club.
We had a stirring rendition of the Rebels club song. In Melbourne this AFL tradition is mandatory for all sports clubs.
So 9 tenors belted out ‘The Song of Angry Men’ from Les Miserables. At the end of the song silver streamers burst from the ceiling, engulfing the singers in a moment of colour and drama.
A terrific video encouraging supporters to join up as members was shown.
The club has created a Rebels Pledge based around five key concepts: Respect, Excellence, Balance, Ethos, Leadership.
The concepts are stitched into the team’s jerseys which was revealed to be a Victorian dark blue shirt, white sleeves and a red collar. This is a distinctive and attractive uniform.
Rod Macqueen came on and talked about the spirit he is trying to create at the new club. They will ‘be competitive from day one,’ he promised. He told how filling the club’s roster was a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Some players he contacted told him they’d just made their Super 15 side and didn’t want to risk this security.
“Stay with your club,” Macqueen said he told these players. “We only want players who are prepared to take a risk.”
I chatted to Michael Lipman, the England player who was educated at St Joseph’s Hunters Hill. He told me he was really excited about next season and how he hoped that great performances by him might lead to a place in England’s RWC squad.
In my view, he is just the sort of dynamic loose forward that England needs, and the Rebels, of course.
And here’s an exclusive of sorts.
The Rebels first Super 15 match will be a Visy Stadium (“the best rugby stadium in the world,” according to Macqueen) on February 18 against the NSW Waratahs.
Then there was some discussion about the Bledisloe Cup Test from Greg Somerville (who got a big roar by predicting an All Blacks win), and Stirling Mortlock (‘The Wallabies can do it’) and Macqueen who insisted that win or lose the match will be a ‘litmus test’ for the Wallabies.
It will give them “a lot of information of just where they are” in the run-up to RWC 2011.
Greg Clarke, the MC for the lunch, offered the following intriguing information for Wallaby supporters.
The All Blacks have won seven successive Tests against the Wallabies, even though in five of these Tests the Wallabies were leading at half-time.
The last time the Wallabies beat an All Blacks’ 7-Test winning run was in 1998 at Melbourne, where Saturday night’s Test is being played.
As I was walking out into mild Melbourne afternoon, I heard someone call out my name. It was the referee for the Test, Craig Joubert.
We shook hands and chatted for a few minutes.
I asked him whether he thought the new tackled ball interpretations made his job easier or tougher. He said he liked them. They were clear and positive.
Teams that tackled around the legs could send their second digger in to contest possession and this was good for the game.
There had been some talk about the dire state of the surface of Etihad Stadium. “You’re not going to condemn the ground,” I teased him. He said he was just going out to inspect it and the game was going to be played.
He finished off by making this great point to me.
“For a South African referee, refereeing an Australian – New Zealand Test is a wonderful thrill, the highlight, it can’t get any better.”
So it’s game on between the Wallabies and the All Blacks as rugby fever takes hold in marvellous Melbourne.
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warrenexpatinnz said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:43am | Report comment
You get the feeling this game is building towards something special as both sides are wanting to make a statement, both coachings groups as well and it is pleasing to hear that Joubert has that positive vibe working as well.
I don’t think one side will dominate the other tomorrow night and because I am neither listening to my heart or head a $50 wager on the draw is my dabble for Saturday.
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:47am | Report comment
Two questions:
1) Weary Dunlop?
2) ‘Teams that tackled around the legs could send their second digger in to contest possession and this was good for the game.’
Couldn’t you just do that before?
Not much to add to the pre-match chat. It will be a litmus test, and for both sides. If Australia win then they will have beaten SA and NZ in consecutive matches – tangible proof of improvement, and if NZ win then they will maintain a strong record and be that much closer to a 3N title. I’m sure whoever wins the loser’s victory over SA will be derided as meaningless like it was when Australia beat SA and then SA beat NZ.
I’m not sure who’ll win. I wouldn’t be surprised were NZ to romp it for the simple reason that the tests v Fiji, England and Ireland showed little to crow about, and because the Australian victory over SA was nowhere near precise or intimidating as the NZ victory over SA. That said, Australia are at home, and they have to win sometime. All it takes is one big win to help that confidence flow, so maybe last week’s victory will facilitate that win? Maybe not. Australia will have to put in a committed and accurate 80 minute performance that we haven’t seen from them since… 2003 WC SF.
Rabbitz said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:35am | Report comment
Who is Weary Dunlop?
Are you kidding?
Sir Ernest Edward ‘Weary’ Dunlop is one of the extraordinary figures in Australia’s history. His name and deeds are associated with compassion, courage, steadfastness and hope.
Dunlop was a RMO (Doctor) in the Australian Army during WW2. He initially served in Jerusalem and Crete. Later he was moved to Java where he was captured by the Japanese and was intered along the Siam-Burma Railway.
Dunlop was responsible for saving countless lives, one example was Billy Griffiths, a British POW, is one of the survivors who owes his life to Sir Edward ‘Weary’ Dunlop. Because he had been blinded and had lost both hands in a booby trap explosion, the Japanese wanted to dispose of him. But Billy was Weary’s patient, whom Weary had operated on and saved. He stood in front of the flashing bayonets and refused to move, saying:
“You will need to put those bayonets through me first”
Billy’s life was spared; the Japanese commander was not prepared to take the consequences of killing the brave doctor.
Weary endured many beatings to protect his men. His courage and kindness was well respected by all, including the Japanese. On July 12th 1945, his 38th birthday, he received extraordinary gestures of affection from all sides, an example of the impact he had on those around him.
Weary Dunlop was a hero in the fullest sense of the word (much unlike the usage when referring to footy players).
Oh and Dunlop represented Australia in Rugby before WW2.
(Here endeth the lesson)
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:38am | Report comment
Thanks for the information – I’ll do some more investigating. You’ll have to excuse my ignorance of Australian history, I’m English.
Redb said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:01am | Report comment
If your in Melbourne, get yourself to St Kilda Rd (other side from Victoria Barracks) , their is a statue to the great man.
Gavin Norman said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:24am | Report comment
Most importantly his a Victorian. The only Victorian in the Wallaby Hall of Fame.
BigAl said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:14am | Report comment
Also the fact that he was a Victorian is very relevant, as Victorian historical links to Rugby are few and far between !
Who Needs Melon said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
Yeah you got off lightly there Ben S. Thanks to your admission to being English. I thoroughly concur with Rabbitz – Weary was a true hero in every sense of the word. Probably the most amazing person ever to come out of this country. His biography by Sue Ebury is well worth a read no matter where you’re from.
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:50pm | Report comment
I tell you all what: I’ll look up his biography on Amazon. Sounds an amazing guy. No disrespect intended of course.
sheek said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:41pm | Report comment
Ben S,
Dunlop played two tests for the Wallabies – one each in 1932 & 34 against the All Blacks, for a win & loss.
Apparently after the win in 1934, in which he suffered a broken nose, he self-administered chop sticks to straighten his nose! Dunlop would have played more Wallaby tests but for his determination to be a surgeon.
He was damned unlucky in WW2. His division arrived in Java just as the whole place was being overrun by the Japs. They were only there several days (I think) & it was a case of – down weapons.
His Christian name was Edward, but was nicknamed “Weary” because of his often tired demeanor.
As others have mentioned, he wrote his name in fame by saving the lives of so many POWs, especially on the infamous Burma-China railroad in upper Thailand. He was a true legend in every sense of the word!
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:23pm | Report comment
As I read this I’m watching a programme regarding the Allied defence Burma, sheek. Bit of a coincidence. Thanks for the information. Appreciated.
Timmuh said | August 1st 2010 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Don’t worry. I had a similar question about why the lunch had his name attached to it. I knew a little of his extraordinary efforts as a POW, but being an Australian Football person was completely unaware of his links to rugby.
Kurt said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:22am | Report comment
You missed a fairly important point, the fact that he was a Victorian – hence the connection with Victorian Rugby.
Stripes said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Saved my Grandfather also from a horrible disease, who managed to get home home and father 10 kids, one of which is my father.
Great man. True Legend.
Kidney said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Being a NZer I’ve also never heard of him. Afraid I thought was a worn out gym shoe.
Redb said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Nickname from his early uni days. More tyres than shoes though.
Dunlop – Tyres – Tired – Weary.
sheek said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:56pm | Report comment
Redb,
Good try, & there may be some truth in what you say, but my understanding is that the origin of the nickname ‘Weary’ cam from the fact he always looked tired, which might be quite appropriate being a surgeon.
But of course, it is a clever play on words nevertheless.
Wal The Hooker said | July 30th 2010 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
Wow Rabbitz That’s an extraordinary story and a valuable lesson in history. Here’s to a great game this Sat in honour of such a courageous and selfless hero. Being a Kiwi I’d never heard of him either. Thanks for a great story.
Seiran said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
2) ‘Teams that tackled around the legs could send their second digger in to contest possession and this was good for the game.’ Couldn’t you just do that before?’
Yes, you could have done this before, but the way the rules were being interpretted, it was better to take the tackle up high and hold on the tackled player. This way you could attack the ball straight away, and/or wrap the player and have him penalised for holding on.
With the new interpretations, the tackler must release the tacklee, so if he hits the player low and hard, the tackled player will topple over. The tackler then releases the tacklee, and the second defensive player (the Pocock’s or McCaw’s) can attack the ball without fear of being penalised.
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:18am | Report comment
I’m confused – if you go for a high tackle then the tackled player has greater opportunity to remain on his feet and continue moving or seek support. As far as I was aware the previous interpretations favoured snafflers, whereas the current laws favour bigger carriers, because the ruck cannt be contested immediately, and the tackled player has to be given an opportunity to release the ball. Surely it made more sense to hit players low last season because low tackles bring players down and then you could be straight into jackal the ball. I get what you’re saying, but going low to open the tackled player isn’t new news. I’m just confused by Spiro’s wording.
Nelson said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:11am | Report comment
Tackle high and you wrap up the ball. Tackling low means the ball-holder retains the ability to pass to another attacker.
mattamkII said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:44am | Report comment
point is, in the past you could make a ball and all tackle, bring him to ground, remain on your feet and never let the ball go.
soapit said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:49am | Report comment
the point is you tackle high but still take the player to ground where he has to basically release it straight to you giving the defensive side an automatic advantage at each tackle.
this also explains why the changed it.
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:52pm | Report comment
I see, I see. Thanks all.
formeropenside said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:03am | Report comment
I still dont understand why a Bledilsoe game is wasted on Melbourne when it should be in the rugby heartland of Queensland, or even NSW. You’d have this same response to a SA or England test, most likely. Thanks ARU for screwing your base.
Seiran said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:13am | Report comment
This is the wrong attitude, and is exactly why Rugby has been held back for so many years.
Lets not also forget that Melbourne has the record for the biggest rugby crowd in Australia. If they can muster such a large rugby crowd does this not make it worth the promotion with the lead up the launch of a new rugby team?
I’m all for Rugby in Melbourne. The more the better.
Besides, Melbourne is so close to Sydney, if people really want to see the match it is a quick flight between the two cities.
Redb said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:26am | Report comment
No it doesn’t. Before the Sydney Olympic stadium (ANZ) was reduced in capacity after the Olympics I’m pretty sure they got a crowd over 100,000 for a Bledisloe.
Gavin Norman said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:29am | Report comment
Had the record, in 1997, that was due to Sydney not having a big enough stadium. Broken in 2000 at ANZ.
That is a stupid mentality to have, something you’d find in League circles.
Norm said | July 30th 2010 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
-”That is a stupid mentality to have, something you’d find in League circles.” Only way to elevate Rugby Union is to denigrate League? It appears to have escaped your attention that the “mentality” you find so objectionable was expressed on a Union thread by a Union fan.
BigAl said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:27am | Report comment
Melbourne ? – probably for similar reasons that they’ve also held A Bledisloe in Tokyo !
mattamkII said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:46am | Report comment
blah blah…well when the blazer boys from Sydney trot out a pathetic 45k to the 2nd england test I say you’ve lost any rights to anything.
Winston said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:44pm | Report comment
I’m with you formeropenside, suncorp sells out in a couple hours. Bris and Syd should host a bled at least twice as often as Melbourne. They couldn’t even give the ABs a captains run. Thats a joke. AFL is so ingrained in the culture there so its worth having it there at times but is much more appreciated further north. Accept for Melbourne based kiwis of course.
darwin stubby said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:03am | Report comment
Unfortunately all I took out of this was a reminder of impending dread – that Greg Clark once again took an opportunity to spout out mind numbing and boring stats … it’s turned into his thing, his point of difference as a commentator – doesn’t he realise that it’s !@#$ing boring as hell ….
how I wish foxsports would just once listen to it’s viewers and give us the option of listening to the refs call and crowd and so some of it’s customers don’t have to put up with statsman meshed with the one-eyed babble of the other 2 foxsports clowns – without doubt the worst commentary team doing the rounds …
as for the game – over as a contest by the 60 min mark … kiwis far too good when matched up – if the pitch holds up another bonus point victory
Seiran said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:11am | Report comment
stash said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:34am | Report comment
That’s a very covert comment Seiran!
Jason said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
alternative rugby commentary. Google it.
Ben said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:09am | Report comment
I dont think this match is as Imprortant as some for the WC. I think Deans has us moving nicely and with the injuries we have we have a huge improvement in us. Dont forget this is the best 15 the ABs have. This is not our best 15 by a long shot….we have 6 first choice players out and we will still give it a really good shake……PALU,COOPER HORWILL,ALEXANDER,TATFU,IOANE.
be like teh ABS without…..CARTER,THORNE,REIDE,FRANKS,JOE,MEALAMU….they would be a differnet propostion.
Lets not get carried away…..it will be close and that should worry the AB”s if it is.
Sam Taulelei said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:19am | Report comment
So Ben
How do you then rate last years Wallabies in the 1st Bledisloe Cup when the following lineups took the field:
Australia – 15 AAC, 14 Lachlan Turner, 13 Stirling Mortlock, 12 Berrick Barnes, 11 Drew Mitchell, 10 Matt Giteau, 9 Luke Burgess, 8 Wycliff Palu, 7 George Smith, 6 Richard Brown, 5 Nathan Sharpe, 4 James Horwill, 3 Al Baxer, 2 Stephen Moore, 1 Benn Robinson.
NZ – 15 Mils Muliaina, 14 Corey Jane, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma’a Nonu, 11 Sitiveni Sivivatu, 10 Stephen Donald, 9 Jimmy Cowan, 8 Rodney So’oialo, 7 Richie McCaw, 6 Jerome Kaino, 5 Isaac Ross, 4 Brad Thorn, 3 Neemia Tialata, 2 Andrew Hore, 1 Tony Woodcock
Apart from the rise of Quade Cooper and Will Genia that is still a strong Wallaby lineup against a similarly strong All Black side. Last year the Wallabies had performed well in their June tests and the All Blacks lost to France and struggled to beat Italy. While the results last year read 4-0 to NZ, Australia were leading the All Blacks for most of the games apart from the test at Wellington. This year the laws have been interpreted differently and the All Blacks have been transformed and with essentially the same nucleus of the side from last year. The Wallabies have injuries and suspensions to contend with this year (and that can also happen next year) but a good side can ride those out and are showing signs of development. On past form NZ should win comfortably and with a bonus point but Australia are a different side to SA. Australia play with more width and will challenge the All Blacks line with more subtlety and speed than the Boks did.
Most of the optimism surrounding Australia is based on hometown advantage (which is a factor), previous history in Melbourne and a potential breakout team performance. However they will have to perform with a different level of precision and composure than they’ve shown to date. The All Blacks tend to bring out the best in their opposition and I’m confident the Wallabies will respond to the challenge, but this All Blacks side is on the verge of developing into a special side that can switch between a tight and open game as the situation requires, in that sense they are a much more balanced side than the All Blacks v.1 under Graham Henry.
formeropenside said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Melbourne is not exactly a home game.
Justin said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:43am | Report comment
Really, last time I checked it was in AUS and we also won the last time we played the ABs in Melbourne didnt we?
Wal The Hooker said | July 30th 2010 @ 4:30pm | Report comment
Touche! Bloody hillarious
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Sam, let’s just pretend Wellington never happened
Ben said | July 30th 2010 @ 12:00pm | Report comment
Sam very sensible well thought out response…however i dont buy this is a special All Blacks side…yet…..
The All Blacks have won 2 tests AT HOME….and please forget the june tests as we know they done mean much. They LOST 3 times in a row to the BOKS last year. I simply get frustrated at the talk of great sides when they havent won anything yet…if they go forward this year win the tri nations then the world cup then they are a special side. Special sides have to win the world cup…full stop..if you dont then you are not. At least in the last 20 years.
Wallabies 91, Boks 95, Wallabies 99, Poms 03 and Boks 07 were all special sides….the 07 Boks escpecially since they beat you guys 3 times in a row…….un heard of i would say.
Please stop the talk of special until they win 1 trophy at least.
Hayden said | July 30th 2010 @ 12:34pm | Report comment
The 87 ABs were a pretty special side also, or doesn’t that count? The 95 Boks were beaten at home 4 -0 I think by the ABs in 96. Not much special there. Boks 07 – that’s a stretch. When did they beat the ABs three times in a row in 07?
Willy said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:03pm | Report comment
I wouldn’t class the 95 Boks as a special side.
In fact, the 95 All Blacks are close to the best I’ve ever seen.
The great sides to have won the RWC include NZ 87, AUS 91, POM 03. The 07 Saffers have an argument given how good they went afterwards, but in the end they beat Fiji, Argentina, England to win it…
zhenry said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
RWC’s are just a bunch of one offs, 3 Tri-Nation games each are a much truer indication of form. That and the over all stats. There are too many variables that make one game an unreliable indicator. There is pressure in both forms and the AB’s for some reason don’t like RWC pressure, may have something to do with being treated too much like every other team. O’Neill does not like the fifa model and internationals are second rate affairs, that only occurs in rugby to a certain degree between hemispheres, and the IRB is working on it. I think Tests are still the highlight of rugby, but the RWC is not the indicator that it is for Soccer, it is more a marketing showcase exercise.
Sam Taulelei said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:20pm | Report comment
I don’t disagree with you Ben hence my original comment “this All Blacks side is on the verge of developing into a special side” that you’ve somehow interpreted to mean that they already are a special side.
They’ve won the Bledisloe Cup which is one trophy is it not?
Yes we’ve failed to win another world cup since 1987 and Australia and SA have earned their bragging rights for that trophy as they’ve won two.
You’ve mentioned our three defeats to SA last year inferring that the result places SA in the realm as a special side but how then do you explain their defeats last year to France, Ireland, Leicester and Saracens?
So let me ask you this, if NZ does win the world cup next year given their legacy of success since 1992 (when SA ended their sporting isolation) with Tri Nations titles, series win in SA, Bledisloe Cups, Lions series wins and Grand Slam tours. Where does that place NZ’s achievement in comparison to other world cup winners from the past? Because outside of the world cup our playing record is actually quite special.
ohtani's jacket said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:47pm | Report comment
What is wrong with you?
The game hasn’t even been played yet and you’re running around talking about how close it will be. The Wallabies LOST 4 times in a row to the BLACKS last year. They’ve LOST 7 times in a row since 2008 to the BLACKS. They’ve LOST 13 out of 16 since the WC to the BLACKS.
Get out of here with your special sides. You go win a trophy.
bennalong said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:04pm | Report comment
COCKY BUGGER!
Mikey said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:23am | Report comment
Ben – AB Best? Ali Williams, Andrew Hore, Sitiveni Stitvatu, SBW (joking!) .. not sure if :”the best” but pretty damn good.
ohtani's jacket said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:36am | Report comment
You’re a live one, aren’t you? Newsflash — the Wallabies are missing more players who always lose to the All Blacks.
Hayden said | July 30th 2010 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Mate, pretty sick of this kind of nonsense year after year. “If so and so was fit, and if so and so wasn’t suspended, and if so and so could actually play for eighty minutes then we’d beat you.” It all gets a bit tiresome.
Redb said | July 30th 2010 @ 7:59am | Report comment
The new Rebels jersey is a shocker! Colours are fine, but the design with the vertical 5 stars – WTF? How about the Southern Cross instead! Looks like a tunic from the 18th century, good for PJs.
As has been said many times on the Roar, Melbourne has some rugby heritage, the ‘touch’ of fever is about right.
Big weekend of sport in Melbourne – just the way we like it.
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:15am | Report comment
Redb, the five stars, all with a different number of points, represent the Rebels’ five key concepts: Respect, Excellence, Balance, Ethos, Leadership.
Or so they say.
I have to admit, I find the strip a bit of a letdown, especally after the ARC Rebels had the best strip in the competition….
Willy said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:05pm | Report comment
Agreed Brett – the Victorian RFU jersey of navy and white hoops is an instant classic.
It should have been retained.
I thought the same thing about the Force – WA RFU has always played in great jumpers.
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
G.Growden champagne comedy in R&M today, on the Rebels strip:
“The highlight of the blue jumper are five stars running down its front, making it appear a bit like one of those fake tuxedo T-shirts you can buy in a $2 shop.”
Who Needs Melon said | July 30th 2010 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
I like the bit about the officials looking for Nathan Sharpes tooth. They’ve done pretty well to find it really – a bit of a needle in a haystack. Makes me wonder if they didn’t just fake it and Sharpey is walking around with someone else’s tooth.
formeropenside said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Nothing wrong with blue and white hoops, or even a blue and white harlequin jersey (the harlequin jersey seems to have sadly disappeared along with real jerseys).
Mind you, I was not a fan of the Reds new 2010 kit, and that looked OK in the end.
darwin stubby said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:19am | Report comment
here’s an idea – why not try and commission an Oz super rugby jersey that isn’t blue … I know blue’s the colour of Victoria – but the opportunity was there as the team’s the Melbourne Rebels … we’ve now got 4 out of 5 teams that play in blue – given the increase in home games next season the away strips will become far more familiar to the average punter
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:35am | Report comment
DS, plus two more each in NZ and SA too…
darwin stubby said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:51am | Report comment
exactly – they had a real opportunity to put out something iconic (I’m not talking Stade Francais here) but they could easily look at say a Harlequins type jersey – something that would stand out – not the ho hum blue with 5 stars plastered down the front …
for me that’s what makes the NPC far more meaningful – the traditional jersey of say Hawkes Bay or Manawatu, the cambridge blue of Northland (great win last night by the way) – rather than something dreamt up by a nerd in a marketing dept – five stars, all with a different number of points, represent the Rebels’ five key concepts – FFS!
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 11:58am | Report comment
can’t argue at all DS. I knew navy blue would be prominent, I expected that, but I would have been just as happy if they buffed the edges of their old ARC strip – there’s plenty to like about hoops…
Anyway, that’s why we have marketing types, designers and focus groups…
sogippy said | July 30th 2010 @ 12:20pm | Report comment
DS – I think quartered jerseys are now reserved for commemorative games – centenaries and the like.
The Link said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
how does the away strip look?
Brett McKay said | July 30th 2010 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Link, it’s probably just a lighter blue..
Kidney said | July 30th 2010 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
I quite like it – reminds me of Speights Gold Medal Ale!
MarkR said | July 30th 2010 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Kidney – are you a Southerner ?
JAJI said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:06am | Report comment
C’mon Spiro lets get serious here. There may be 800 suits at yet another “Rah Rah” lunch and talk of ex St Josephs ex students – but thats why Rugby Union will always remain a niche sport – ex private school students and corporates and little other interest . Isnt Melbourne instead focusing on the big AFL game on the same day between Collingwood and Carlton and the only talk in mainstream press has been what the Rah Rahs are going to do to the much maligned surface at Etiihad Stadium?
Gavin Norman said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:34am | Report comment
You’re correct only in part. I was at the lunch, educated in the public school system and I’m certainly no “Rah Rah”. I’m there for the fans and also to have a good time. If you follow the Rebel Army on Twitter or Facebook, you would of seen our running commentary.
Good point about Carlton vs Collingwood. It’s interesting to note also, that yesterday the AFL announced GWS would get the 18th license, on the same day the Rebels unveiled the jersey etc… coincidence?
Mind you, the Herald Sun have had a full page of Rugby since Monday, even a 2 page spread today! Hell really has frozen over, more then the Etihad surface!
Redb said | July 30th 2010 @ 10:49am | Report comment
Not really. NSW Govt signed off on Showgrounds stadium, last impediment to GWS licence.
Coincidence is not the same as conspiracy.
Mike McLeod said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:41am | Report comment
Spot on JAJI. Spiro would you have mentioned Lipman’s school if he’d been educated at Rooty Hills High? The free lunch and grog with 800 suits has won you over, but it’ll have zero effect on the young, aspiring athletes of Melbourne. Sure, the game needs the money that corporate events provide, but please, let’s move on from lauding the products of the manicured playing fields of Hunters Hill. This is Australia 2010, not England 1910.
BUNCE
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:21am | Report comment
Just read this bit:
‘I chatted to Matt Lipman, the England player who was educated at St Joseph’s Hunters Hill. He told me he was really excited about next season and how he hoped that great performances by him might lead to a place in England’s RWC squad.
In my view, he is just the sort of dynamic loose forward that England needs, and the Rebels, of course.’
Eh? Based on what, Spiro? Your hours spent poring over old Bath games? Lipman was tried at Test level. He had neither the pace or the physicality to contend, however he was a very good club player and was highly thought of by Meehan. In any case, it’s not like you’ve just seen Moody and Croft play in Australia…
Marcel Proust said | July 30th 2010 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Is his first name “Matt”
I thought the Lipman character was called Michael.
Could be wrong.
Ben S said | July 30th 2010 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
You could also be right, which you are. The weekly name error trend continues. Personally I think it’s a joke, and all the Roar editors are in on it.
Tui said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:25am | Report comment
Heading to the game with a bunch of my Kiwi mates should be a cracker. AB’s by 13+
MarkR said | July 30th 2010 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
ABs by 15+ – If the ABs lose my Kiwi mates wil never let me attend an AB game in Melbourne again !
Justin said | July 30th 2010 @ 8:42am | Report comment
A slight correction – Ross Oakley is NOT the CEO of the Rebels but the Victorian Rugby Union two quite different beasts. Pat WIlson (former ARU staffer) is the CEO of the Rebels.