Cooper deal would open the door for change in NRL
By Luke Doherty, 16 Aug 2010 Luke Doherty is a Roar Expert
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Any move, however unlikely, by the NRL to provide Parramatta with a top-up payment to lure Quade Cooper away from the Queensland Reds and Wallabies would leave the salary cap clinging to whatever little credibility it has left.
Cooper, apparently, is genuine in his desire to play for the Eels, but only if the NRL provides an extra $200 thousand on-top of a reported $500 thousand a year offer from Parramatta.
Can you imagine the up-roar if David Gallop, although I’m sure he’d love to fire a cannon back across the bow of the ARU, said yes?
Tomorrow morning he’d have the chief executives of the other 15 clubs, lining up outside his office at Moore Park in Sydney, waiting for their bag of money as well.
Don’t get me wrong. The 22-year old playmaker would be worth every cent of the $700 thousand a year payment. He’s an amazing talent, but then when other clubs have made similar requests for a bit of help from the governing body in the past, they’ve been met with a “gee we’d really love to, but…..”.
What Cooper and his management have to understand is that the salary cap is designed to provide the code with a level playing field. If the NRL started handing out extra cash (after-all they already give the clubs a grant worth over $3.5 million every year) it would render the cap useless.
The only way this could possibly work was if the NRL built up a warchest that would be available for clubs to raid.
Here’s how I think it should work:
1. Club’s are allowed one payment by the NRL of $200 thousand to top-up one new player’s contract
2. That player must be signed from a rival code to be eligible for the payment
3. The club can only have one “cross-code” player on their roster with a contract that has been boosted by the warchest at a time
4. The “cross-code” player must have played at least 10 tests (for rugby) or 100 games (in the unlikely event an NRL side goes after an AFL player)
5. The player wouldn’t be eligible for extra money from the marquee portion of the cap
6. It must not be a player who has previously played rugby league for NSW, QLD or Australia
The publicity that Cooper’s switch would bring to the NRL would be enormous.
It would give the impression that the code is fighting back, after being trampled by its rivals over the past 12 months.
Greg Inglis said in an interview with Channel 9 recently that he believed the NRL was 25 to 30 years behind the AFL in terms of marketing and recruitment. Well here’s a chance for David Gallop and co. to reduce the gap slightly.
The sight of Matt Giteau in a Sharks jersey and Rocky Elsom running riot for the Cowboys would be a fantastic look for rugby league. Who knows? Nathan Sharpe, with his profile in Western Australia, could even help get fans through the gate when a team is placed in Perth.
So where will this extra money come from?
Had an independent commission been in place this year club officials were told the game could’ve saved at least $4.5 million.
Financial projections indicate the commission could save the game around $50 million over the next five years.
There’s some food for thought. The question remains, is the NRL hungry enough?
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allblackfan said | August 16th 2010 @ 5:34am | Report comment
More to the point: can the NRL find the money for it?
It’s my understanding that some years ago, the NRL changed the cap so that rugby union players who join the NRL fall outside the cap. But u will have the same problem that RU has had with NRL recruits; u may get them for a few years but eventually you will lose them (ie Saffy from the Dragons, du Plessis from the Roosters, Vuna from the Knights).
Not to mention the fact that joining RL will mean a hefty pay cut!
Ken said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:27am | Report comment
The NRL have never changed the cap so that RU cross-overs fall outside the cap hence why there are so few that come across. In the case of Cooper, this deal would represent double the reported offered contract from the ARU so no worries about a pay cut.
Your point about them going back seems to work both ways, many code-changers either direction seem to end up back in their original code. Remembering that none of the names you mentioned had achieved anything in Union when they left (2 of them aren’t even regular first graders now in the NRL) but they are being offered good dollars to go back to Union to likely be in the frame for representative spots – it’s hardly a shock that they are taking that option.
Jay said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:43am | Report comment
I think it was for rookie RU players under the age of 21 (dont know whether they implemented it, though)… but that definatley wont apply here
Billo said | August 16th 2010 @ 6:51am | Report comment
I think it’s very optimistic to believe that Cooper could make the sort of immediate impact he would need to make to justify a payment of that sort.
The NRL has improved its recruitment and retention of players considerably since rugby went open, and it would be incredibly stupid to reverse that policy now, just to stick two fingers up to the ARU.
I think a move like this would be a disaster for a club like Parramatta.
Ken said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Agreed on all points. While undoubtably talented he would be a very expensive and risky experiment. I’m not sure that the NRL really care about sticking it to the ARU anyway – there will always be some friction there but I think in the 100+ years of co-existence the relationship is probably about as mild now as it ever has been. Both of them are more concerned with not losing ground to the AFL and soccer.
p.Tah said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:56am | Report comment
I’m a Parra fan and a Wallabies supporter. The Eels needs some more good players, but Cooper’s worth to Parra is nothing compared to his worth to the Wallabies (and Aust RU in general). I think he’d have too much pressure on him in the NRL to justify his salary as the highest paid player and he would fall into his old habits of trying to overplay his hand.
Parra are in a bit of a mess at the moment. Who will coach them next year? A bunch of stars are leaving next year. Boardroom fighting and media leaks. Hardly an exciting enviroment to go to just because you became Twitter mates with Hayne! I’d prefer he stayed with RU, but given what the QRU, in particuar, have done for him in the last 18 months, his threat to leave makes me pretty sick.
I have no issue with players pushing up their price, but Cooper is getting a bit ahead of himself. He is yet to prove he is a world beater consistently. One good season doesn’t make you a great player.
Timmypig said | August 16th 2010 @ 7:20am | Report comment
My first reaction is to wonder about Luke’s impartiality as a journo. I’ll have nagging doubts in my mind whenever he reports on or discusses rugby in his Sky job.
Crosscoder said | August 16th 2010 @ 7:27am | Report comment
The NRL wouldn’t top up,it would create a dangerous precedent.judging by the breakup of the latest offr by the Eels ,there is no need for an NRL intervention.
The salary cap (and there will be a bigger offering in 2013 )and already amendments are being made,is keeping the code one of the most competitive of all sports one could mention.
Let me just comment on those ru players mentioned.Saffy was a tradesman like player in the 17 but rarely a run on one,but St george had no intention of wasting money by matching the Rebels offer.He wasn’t worth it .Du Plessis tried hard enough in the under 20s for the Roosters,but found the transition difficult ,especially for a player grounded in ru.Vuna was a loss for the Knights but he always wanted to go back to ru.
“”Joining the NRL will mean a hefty pay cut”.LOL not by the figures being quoted.Any case rl has a thingy going called development,which really negates the need to try untest ru players.Obviously the commenmator has not heard of the ESL.
.It is interesting to note now,that not only Quade Cooper is sniffing around the NRL,but the likes of Giteau wouldn’t rule it out,and even Berrick Barnes has noted someway down the track he would like to go back to the Broncos.And K Beale has not ruled out a return to the game he once played in his tender years.
Cooper has a rl background,yet the ARU was quite happy to throw money around at players such as Sailor and Tuqiri with little or no ru backgrounds.
Morgan said | August 19th 2010 @ 10:30pm | Report comment
just as inglis, haynes, folau and co said they will try rugby in the future. whats your point? its funny how you think saffy and vuna aren’t good nrl players because of their future rugby contracts. i can tell you now of hundreds of thousands and thousands of born and bread league players who wish they were in vuna or saffy’s shoes right now or wish they played one nrl game in their long long league careers.
Willy said | August 16th 2010 @ 7:59am | Report comment
Does anyone know the name of Quade Cooper’s agent?
Because he’s doing a hell of a job of driving up his client’s price with the ARU.
There is more chance of Parramatta signing me to play prop alongside FuiFui MoiMoi than Cooper changing codes next season.
Rockin Rod said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:10am | Report comment
He is managed by the leading sports management company in the world IMG. They manage Federer, Tiger Woods, Peyton Manning, Buddy Franklin, Garry Ablett Jnr, the roars David Pocock the list goes on. They wouldnt be going down this path if it wasnt a real option.
Willy said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:35am | Report comment
I reckon John O’Neill had it right when he commented that it was interesting to see these headlines appear on the same day the ARU was already scheduled to sit down with Cooper’s management.
Mate – it’s a ruse to push up Cooper’s price with the ARU. He committed to the QLD Reds months ago and will honour that contract.
Makes some nice headlines for the Daily NRL Newsletter…um, sorry I meant Daily Telegraph.
Harry said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:47am | Report comment
Ah Rockin Rod, our man with the inside knowledge on all this and, reading this missive above and other efforts, not unconnected to the wonderful world of agents. Care to break cover and give us more insight?
Anyway, I see Cooper in today’s SMH is “insulted” and “offended” by the ARU. When this sort of crap starts appearing, particuarly from a bloke like Cooper who had had a lot of people stand by him when he could have been hung out to dry, its pretty disappointing.
Another fallout will be to derail the Wallabies for their next 3 matches. Thats a real shame as the team is struggling to get it together and this sort of stuff just detracts from everyone focusing on playing the game.
Mushi said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Really? I struggle to believe that IMG doesn’t do a little bit of fly fishing when it comes to creating the illusion of competition when none really exists
At this point with a WC looming Cooper has that gold number 10 as his number #1 must have the ARU knows it, Cooper knows it and IMG knows it. If IMG can’t create the possibility of a deal that offsets the difference then cooper is screwed.
Brett McKay said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:33am | Report comment
my thoughts exactly Mushi. Just because IMG is involved doesn’t mean they don’t do whatever they have to do to get the best deal for their client (and by default, themselves). In fact, IMG probably do it better than anyone, that’s why they’re so big….
Luke Doherty said | August 16th 2010 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
The offer from the Eels is genuine. Can we all really blame his manager? After all, his job is to get Quade the best deal.
Corey said | August 16th 2010 @ 1:37pm | Report comment
I do think Managers need to be given a bit of caution. They seem to be ruining all codes in Australia (at least the oval ball codes).
I think Parramatta should see if they can find a 3rd Party that will sponsor them high enough. May be get Quade a job in radio or TV with Nova or Channel 7 (Matty Johns show). They can pay a pretty penny – if you get him on the Matty Johns show and the Nova Breakfast show then you get a fair bit of use out of him and he spreads the word of Parramatta and Rugby League.
p.Tah said | August 16th 2010 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
Have you heard Cooper speak?
JohnB said | August 16th 2010 @ 7:20pm | Report comment
Reading this late in the piece – word for word what I immediately thought. I guess 700K less commission buys some media training though.
Willy said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:00am | Report comment
“The sight of Matt Giteau in a Sharks jersey and Rocky Elsom running riot for the Cowboys would be a fantastic look for rugby league.”
Under your rules, Rocky Elsom wouldn’t be eligible for an NRL top up anyway.
He’s already played league – for the Bulldogs.
Luke Doherty said | August 16th 2010 @ 10:33am | Report comment
Hi Willy thanks for your comments. You’re 100 % right. He did play for the Bulldogs, but didn’t play for NSW, QLD or Australia so would still be eligible. I think that part was important so clubs couldn’t just go chasing guys like Wendell, Rogers and Lote but rather your Drew Mitchell, Cooper, Elsom, Giteau etc. Cheers mate.
oikee said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:03am | Report comment
Cooper has rugby league written all over him. Its up to him to realise his true calling. Like Hunt and Folau, the baby elephant and the lamp post, made for league. Simo whrestling might have been a better career option.
Reading todays paper, 1.5 million over 2 years is the offer. Take the money and run.
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | August 16th 2010 @ 4:55pm | Report comment
“Cooper has rugby league written all over him”
I take it you haven’t watched his tackling ability that closely then?
Doug said | August 16th 2010 @ 10:05pm | Report comment
Morgan said | August 19th 2010 @ 10:36pm | Report comment
should be right at home then. how many standoff can tackle in league? can’t be any worse than one of the best league players in league ever in darren lockyer.
sledgeross said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:03am | Report comment
Yeah, I remember Rocky running around in Flegg back in the late 90s.
Jammy said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:07am | Report comment
League is a great game, union is a great game, no need for a code war. One thing though – Rocky Elsom running riot for the cowboys? – I don’t think so.
Willy said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Agreed Jammy.
I feel lucky enough to love both codes – along with football, cricket, tennis, horse racing… whatever you can name!
I’ll never understand those people who feel the need to pick and choose one code or sport over the others. Crazy.
berra boy said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
hear hear
Jeff said | August 16th 2010 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
Hey Willy, we agree on something, Sport is to be watched, not fought about!!. I was brought up on Rugby League, Soccer and Union. I still love all those sports.
jus de couchon said | August 16th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
Jeez I wish I was 30 years younger and had an agent . I could have been a contender. Now look at me..
Brett McKay said | August 16th 2010 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Jus, nice…