NRL commentators aren’t up to scratch
By jdlives, 3 Sep 2010 jdlives is a Roar Rookie
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- Andrew Johns, Brad Fittler, Brett Kimmorley, Channel 9, Matthew Johns, NRL, Ray Warren, Rugby League
I’ve come to notice over the last year or so that many of the supposed best commentators in our game are, in my opinion, not doing their job. The main culprit I’m referring to is the Channel Nine rugby league commentary team.
The Nine team are supposedly the best analytical judges of the game and offer the average league fan extra insight to the game.
However, I often find myself muting the television to escape their painful mediocrity.
I have a particular issue with Ray Warren or ‘Rabs’. I understand that he is a great of the game and has given years of quality service to the TV audience, however some one really needs to give him a tap on the shoulder and let him know he should leave now instead of getting to the point where the names he calls out are more often wrong than right.
It’s become custom for a game with ‘Rabs’ to hear at least two or three names of players that either don’t exist or haven’t played the game in a considerable amount of time, such as Mark Horo (Rabs spent the entire game calling Justin Horo his Dad’s name).
However, the most ridiculous things I have noticed is that commentators such as the ‘Great Gus Gould’ (in his own mind) don’t seem to even bother to learn the players’ names nor what they look like.
One would think that this is a crucial factor to be able to commentate a game.
An example of this was when the Brisbane Broncos changed fullback after round five. Corey Norman was replaced by Josh Hoffman. Apparently no one told them that it was a different player despite the different name. To quote Gus, “I hear this kids an even better five-eighth” (that was Corey Norman).
This actually went on for a couple of rounds.
But the greatest issue I have with Channel 9 is its recruiting of Andrew Johns and Brad Fittler. One can only hope they are never allowed to commentate a whole game as they both fail to add anything interesting from their sideline quips. Sure they were both great players of the game, but their ability to articulate that to the masses in a coherent manner leaves a lot to be desired.
To highlight the ability of one Brad Fittler, one can YouTube to hear Fittler telling Rabs that he told the sick Cameron Ciraldo to “harden the ***k up!”
While that may be all good to say in a private conversation, when you’re being recorded on TV one has to know to choose their words better.
An example of a good sideline commentator I heard recently was Brett Kimmorely. In a sideline quip he actually added something of relevance to the game to give the viewer a better understanding of what was going on.
It is my belief Channel 9 needs to go away from recruiting the best retired players and instead recruit the best-articulated retired players.
An example of where they failed to do this was when they stuck by Andrew Johns and shafted his brother Matthew, while there is little doubt Andrew was the better player but Matthew was defiantly the better commentator.
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September 3rd 2010 @ 6:44am
oikee said | September 3rd 2010 @ 6:44am | Report comment
Yes, i have been making comments about those 2 for awhile now. Joey and Freddie. They are nothing short of knuckleheads during the calling of matches. Do we really want to go down this path. ? Rabs and Gus are the 2 muppets, i put up with them because i tell myself they are both now getting on abit in years.
Their is a caller on Fox sports who should be giving the job, maybe next year. He called a game the other nite and it was well done.
Calling players freaks is not doing them justice. Saying players are every good player rolled into one like Joey said the other nite is just pathetic. The players in question played the game at the top level for over 10 years or more. Yet the player he talks about is only been around for 2-3 seasons, if that.
Its bloody embarressing.
I will try to find out this weekend the name of that caller, he is not one of the ussual suspects. Jason Costigan is another caller i dont mind. He talks alot about where players come from, adds some insight into the game. Some people dont like him. His voice tones are good for the game.
The warriors games are wonderful, full of noise, Drums, Music, and passionate crowds, plus the kiwi commentators are great to listen to also. I never miss a warriors game from NZ. Its really entertaining. The under 20 warriors games are good as well.
September 3rd 2010 @ 8:05am
Willy said | September 3rd 2010 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Could be worse.
In the UK Super League they use former Parramatta great Tolson Tollett.
September 3rd 2010 @ 8:08am
Willy said | September 3rd 2010 @ 8:08am | Report comment
I also hate the way they heap praise on certain players regardless of how they’re actually playing.
Jarryd Hayne is the main beneficiary. No matter how badly he’s going, Gould et al seem convinced he’s the second coming of Jesus Christ.
Against the Tigers he had a SHOCKER. Did nothing. But Gould kept praising him – apparently Hayne was waiting for exactly the right moment to inject himself into the game. Which apparently shows maturity…
Farce.
September 3rd 2010 @ 8:48am
mona said | September 3rd 2010 @ 8:48am | Report comment
yep. I remember watching the Brisbane v Parramatta game a few weeks ago and Gus Gould was like that about bloody Jarryd Hayne.
He was biding his time or something stupid like that.
No Gus, he was just being lazy.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:25am
Bay35Pablo said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:25am | Report comment
You mean all the impartiality of Danny Weidler ….?
Pushing blokes they like or who are their mates, irrespective of reality?
September 3rd 2010 @ 8:21am
Jammy said | September 3rd 2010 @ 8:21am | Report comment
Phil Gould is absolutely terrible, I mute the TV when he is on his one of his rants. Its noticable that Rab’s calls are a lot better when he’s not commentating with gould. Like Rabs, Voss is good when gould isn’t there. Johns adds nothing, It is almost unbelievable that a player as great as he was has so little insight into the game. Fittler isn’t too bad, just needs a few hundred hours of elocution lessons. The real stinker is Wally Lewis. A great champion and seems like a really nice and knowledgeable bloke but he is just not suited for TV. All I can say is thank (insert favourite god) for Sterlo, the best sports commentator in the country.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:39am
Willy said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:39am | Report comment
Agree 100% on Wally Lewis.
Honestly, they’d be better off just wheeling out that statue of him from Lang Park. At least then you’d get some intelligent analysis.
(He should also be locked up for the crime of spawning Lincoln Lewis… but that’s another matter entirely.)
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:01am
Springs said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Channel Nine is far easier to listen to, and their presentation is much better, than the damned fox sports monday night team. If Nine is so bad, than how bad is Daley…
And yeah, Fittler actually told Vossy about the Ciraldo thing, not Rabs, I guess you aren’t perfect either.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:28am
Bay35Pablo said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:28am | Report comment
Warren is useless. Rabs is an appropriate nick name, as he rabbits on about garbage irrespective of what is going on in the game.
I have lost count of the number of times he has continued cr@pping on about something with complete disregard for what is going on in the game, as if he’s stopped watching it. I have seen dropped balls, turnovers, fights occur and if you were just listening to Warren’s commentary you wouldn’t know if was happening, in fact you’d think he was on a 30 second delay.
Time to move him into the retirement home … or Wide World of Sprts. Much the same.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:36am
M.O.C. said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Obviously this is a bad case of “jobs for the boys”. Just as great players don’t necesarily make great coaches, the same applies for commentry. Johns and Fittler’s comments are simply the result of low IQ and Gould’s commentry reeks of a god-complex. Stirling is a shining light and can even remain impartial when commenting on Parramatta games, Voss and Rabs are passable ans show that a background as a player is not required to commentate. I still find it amazing that Nine allows its self to be represented by confessed drug users and drunken louts (read Johns and Fittler) – perhaps Matthew Newton would offer better PR next season?.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:54am
Mark said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:54am | Report comment
NRL also has the best caller, Ray Hadley from 2GB.
September 3rd 2010 @ 9:59am
Stormin Red said | September 3rd 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
In the past their jobs involved calling the plays (obviously) and to also offer insight on the players, tactics and the game in general. In the last couple of years though the commentators seem to be trying to find a good sound bite at every possible opportunity. The “great” Gus Gould is the worst for it. He will watch a video replay, see it is going to be called no try and he pounces on his opportunity to shine. “Surely they won’t rule this out”, then the inevitable red light whirls on screen. “NO, NO, NO, NO, NO”. I am watching the game to watch the game, not to hear him spout his little catch phrases.
September 3rd 2010 @ 1:35pm
oikee said | September 3rd 2010 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
I like that one the other nite, Gould, ” its alright rabs, they have it all under control, no try, it’s alright, he’s looking at it again, it’s ok rabs, no try, you wait and see” .
In the meantime i had a shower, get tea ready and made love to the mrs, just got back in time to see “NoTRY”.
Yeah baby, and we had to wait for Finch to stand down so we could move on. Gee this game is run by dinosaurs.
Hey toomoorow, hopefully we get a blog about the commish up and running soon. Its taken 3 years, but we got there. No seriously, i want to comment on who will be on the board.
September 3rd 2010 @ 10:06am
David Moloney said | September 3rd 2010 @ 10:06am | Report comment
I thought I was the only one that thought Ray Warren was a terrible commentator, the other people refer to him as the great Ray Warren.
As for retired players , they do the same with the rugby games in NZ fortunately only when the good guys are busy. I wonder how they decided to employ Fittler he not only mumblles but waht he says he says is normally of little value. He is so inarticulate I wonder how he gets through his normal days. – Sluggo