Tanner tells it like it is
By Michael Turner, 11 Oct 2010 Michael Turner is a Roar Pro
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Football player agent Chris Tanner is a real footballing entrepreneur. His strong views and opinions on the game are often taken not on perception, yet more on his actual experience within the organisation and the grassroots level.
With his expertise ranging from event management, to the development of the many youth internationals all around the world, he is one person who you can trust to have the correct facts on the problems that plight the local game.
Despite his support for the rival Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, it’s hard to find anything to hold against Mr Tanner, as his views on the A-League and his ideas for improvement herald missed opportunities made by the FFA. It’s something football fans have to admit; mistakes have been made, and Tanner makes note of them, and knows how to fix them in this exclusive interview.
Michael Turner: Let’s start with the A-League. We have commenced the dubbed ‘6th Edition’ of the competition in clouds of controversy. Do you think that it has become better as the years progress?
Chris Tanner: No I don’t. The original model was flawed from day one. The bar was set too high and most clubs have not reached it. There was not enough clubs, and not enough markets. The Crawford Report was ignored. Talented players were forced back to state league as clubs paid top money for some players who didn’t deserve it, leaving little money to fill up the rest of their rosters with average players who are now gone from the league. The NYL is ineffective as far as development goes – we need a reserve grade as a bridge between A-League and NYL, playing in the state leagues … just like in most European countries.
Michael Turner: It is known that you disagree with some of the administration aspects of the league in relation to the FFA. What do you believe is the problem with the way the league is run?
Chris Tanner: The needs of the participating clubs and the overall needs of the game are ignored. A-League clubs struggle to engage the community because they aren’t shown how. I believe the Mariners are the best at this.
Michael Turner: If you were put in charge of the A-League taskforce, what ideas and approaches would you propose to your team?
Chris Tanner: Rebuild it with as little disruption as possible. It has to be driven from the ground up, with broad-based membership strategies combined with the commercial drive of majority shareholders.
Michael Turner: Your Western Sydney A-League entity was trumped by one that was less than one month old, whereas your bid was far more advanced in organisation. What was the reasoning given by the FFA for its snub?
Chris Tanner: Who knows? It’s the biggest scandal to befall the current organisation. Now, a former senior FFA staffer says that “the licence did not go to the most deserving” … we all knew that. Now, Sydney Rovers are reported to be struggling. Our model was the best, and is still active. We hope to speak to Mr. Lowy soon, to see if we can pick up where we left off.
Michael Turner: You were involved with bringing major English Premier League club Everton FC to Australia. What exactly was your role in this tour?
Chris Tanner: Not a major role really. We consulted on a number of things that had to be done. I understand the tour promoters suffered heavy losses. We proposed a number of exciting strategies, which they ignored.
Michael Turner: Do you think that tours like this are important to the growth of football in Australia, and do you think that more like this will occur in the future?
Chris Tanner: They can be … if they are done properly, that’s the key. It’s not about relying on big names and brands to sell tickets … like A-League clubs, you still have to engage the community … it’s called marketing.
Michael Turner: The view has been shared that the game would have been better received at the Sydney Football Stadium, with a capacity crowd. What is your view on that issue?
Chris Tanner: Rubbish. ANZ Stadium is the best facility in the country by a long way. The Everton game should have had a crowd of 50,000 plus … you can’t do that anywhere else in Sydney. The fact that the potential of the event was not realised on that occasion is not a reason to go to the tired old SFS.
Michael Turner: Back in 2003, controversial player agent Bernie Mandic released a small slur against you in an interview to ‘The Age’. “He’s very proud of the fact that he’s a licensed players’ agent and I’m not. He’s on the Soccer Australia Licensed Agents website and the FIFA website.” This is a long past issue, but what is your stance on unlicensed player agents?
Chris Tanner: Ah yes … the Mandic debate. You can represent players without a licence as long as FIFA regulations are observed. In most instances they are not. The unlicensed guys that ignore FIFA regulations are putting their clients’ careers at risk. They cannot help them through legal channels.
Michael Turner: Are you and Mandic back on level terms?
Chris Tanner: We liaise on issues occasionally. I have no problem with Bernie, and I think at the time he was misinformed about issues concerning he and I.
Michael Turner: Your Company, ‘Zenith Sports and Event Management’ deals with events, however it also states you deal with players as their agent. As a licensed player agent by FIFA, how many players have you sent in to the system? Any high achievers?
Chris Tanner: Mate, truly I have lost count. We do a lot for young players who are prepared to listen, work hard, and be patient. These days, young players are focussing on the far distant future and their Wembley appearances, and not tomorrow’s training session. The high achievers are the ones who want to follow the correct path … like our client Steven Lustica for example. Steven is one of many youth internationals on our books. We have Aussie, Belgian, Emirati, English, Saudi Arabian and numerous African youth internationals on our books.
Michael Turner: What are your thoughts on Football NSW’s Project 22?
Chris Tanner: Great move. Football NSW is the country’s leader in football management innovation. They leave FFA for dead.
Michael Turner: Do you think it makes it easier for a player to enter the system, so-to-speak?
Chris Tanner: No. But it makes it easier for the system to identify them.
Michael Turner: It is now known that you are working with the Qatari Bid Team for the 2022 World Cup. Since you are bidding against the Australian bid, what is your view on local bid?
Chris Tanner: We are not working with them … just supporting them as we believe the Qatar bid is the best for football in Asia, and globally as well. The local bid is unfortunately tarnished with controversy. We are a racist nation and I don’t think that will go over with football as easy as it did with the Olympics. We also don’t have the infrastructure for a tournament of that size, nor do we need a 40,000 seat stadium in Newcastle.
Michael Turner: Do you believe that the issues the Australian bid has come against have sufficiently jeopardised the bid, to rule it out? (The AFL, the bribe controversy)
Chris Tanner: I hope so.
Michael Turner: The Qatari bid team has taken in the basic idea that ‘if South Africa can do it, so can we’. Do you believe that the Qataris have a strong bid assembled?
Chris Tanner: What we saw of it on my recent trip tells me they can host a sensational World Cup. Their bid will be a glowing example of stadia technology.
Michael Turner: Sepp Blatter officially endorsed the Qatari bid, “The Arabic world deserves a World Cup. They have 22 countries and have not had any opportunity to organise the tournament” before going on to praise the country’s progress. As Blatter has also endorsed many of the other 2022 and 2018 bids, what is the credibility of his statement?
Chris Tanner: He’s 110% correct regarding the Arab world. Football has the opportunity to build bridges between our societies, and I believe FIFA should look at this.
Michael Turner: Footballing pundits have previously stated that the issues of Israel and alcohol will render the bid obsolete; however the obvious enthusiasm shown by the Qatari government has been shown by its ability to overlook these issues in order to host the competition. Do you believe things like these will be some of the major stumbling blocks?
Chris Tanner: No, I had plenty to drink in Dubai last month. Our ignorance makes us presume that our Arab brothers are intolerant. It is not the case.
Michael Turner: One other issue that will cause the bid team some problems is the weather in Qatar. In order to overcome this, it has been stated that a Qatari World Cup would be ambitiously staged indoors, with huge, high tech state of the art air conditioned stadia, to emulate the conditions of a European spring. Is this the approach the bid team will be taking?
Chris Tanner: I have seen plans for magnificent stadia. I sincerely hope they get the nod.
Michael Turner: Slightly off topic now, almost 20 years ago, you were the Marketing Manager of the now defunct NRL entity the ‘North Sydney Bears’. Do you think that it is great that the side will possibly be re-entering the competition as the ‘Central Coast Bears’?
Chris Tanner: We all live in hope on this one, as you are always a Bears fan, and I was lucky enough to work there, as my brother and father were players there. It’s about tradition … FFA please note.
Michael Turner: Mr Tanner, Thank you for your time.
Chris Tanner: You are welcome.
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October 11th 2010 @ 7:59am
Cpaaa said | October 11th 2010 @ 7:59am | Report comment
Chris Tanner on we are a racist country…interesting. Has he watched any of the commonwealth games and seen the number of new Australians representing the Green and Gold. I don’t think so. Australia the land of pretty much do what ever you want, say what you want, drink, eat, and sleep with whom ever you want and yet this guy supports a bid in a country that is anything but.
Newcastle dosnt need a 40k stadium and he thinks some part of Qatar does? Hmmm….
I would have liked more if you dug deeper on the west Sydney bid and Tanners involvement there. His plan of community engagement and type of business structure they proposed.
Otherwise mate you’re a legend for producing articles like these. I look forward to your next one.
October 11th 2010 @ 8:40am
Andyroo said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Newcastle doesn’t need a 40k stadium and he thinks some part of Qatar does?
Yes I laughed too. Add comedian to Tanners list of jobs
October 11th 2010 @ 11:05am
Wotdoo said | October 11th 2010 @ 11:05am | Report comment
Qater with a population of approx 1.7 mill (Wiki) if they were to have say 10 stadium with Say approx 500, 000 seats (The same range as South Africa) would mean that there is one seat for every 3.4 people, now i would say that that is overkill. Talk about a heard of white elephants.
October 16th 2010 @ 8:50am
CT said | October 16th 2010 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Qatar’s stadia will be used by the entire GCC.
I am sure NZ or Indonesia won’t use Townsville Stadium … but they may visit as an “away team”
October 11th 2010 @ 8:10am
Fussball ist unser leben said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:10am | Report comment
Michael Turner – that was pure G-O-L-D!
Thank you so much. I have no doubt every football fan just craves this type of real, fact-based football story – no spin, no misquotes or quoting out of context to generate controversy – just a one-on-one interview that covers so many of the important issues confronting football in Australia.
I’m still buzzing after reading that and will have to re-read; since I’m sure I’ve missed a few gems and insights.
This is definitely an article that I will save in my “football archive” – hope you can provide more such stories!?
October 11th 2010 @ 8:28am
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
“No spin”?
This bloke is a player agent and a promoter – you don’t reckon he has some vested interests in certain outcomes??
Who on Earth puts his faith in what a player agent has to say??
October 11th 2010 @ 8:39am
Andyroo said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Wide eyed young players
October 11th 2010 @ 8:44am
Mister Football said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:44am | Report comment
heh, heh – yes – true!!
October 11th 2010 @ 8:43am
Fussball ist unser leben said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:43am | Report comment
When I refer to “spin” in the media, I am referring to stories or answers that are embellished, or simply false statements that are written, to further the agenda of a particular reporter and/or his editor.
So, when I say Michael Turner’s wonderful article is devoid of “spin”, I am referring to the fact that Turner has not embellished Tanner’s answers.
Turner has provided a verbatim account of a good, old-fashioned, one-on-one interview.
Turner has not put his “spin” on the answers; nor has Turner resorted to the cheap journalistic trick of “quoting out of context” to further an agenda.
Turner has done his job superbly – he has provided us with “what was said”.
It’s now up to the reader to decide how much weight is given to “what was said”.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:08pm
Ben said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:08pm | Report comment
So how do you know that the author has provided “a verbatim account” of this interview?
I’m not saying Michael has done anything other than give us “what was said”, but I’m intrigued as to how you know this to be the case and why the text that’s printed here is any different or more valid that the text from the agenda driven reporters/editors that your paranoia seems to be railing against?
October 11th 2010 @ 2:14pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
Ben-
Based on the way the article is presented – specifically in a dialogue “he said/he replied” format, I formed the view that it was a verbatim account of what was said by Tanner to Turner “on the record”.
If it is not a verbatim account, then I will be as disappointed with Michael Turner as I am with any other journalist, who cherry-picks quotes and doesn’t inform the reader that this is just part of an interview.
The difference is that Michael Turner has gone to the primary source for his quotes. He hasn’t relied on gossip and “chinese whispers” for his article.
October 11th 2010 @ 7:28pm
Michael Turner said | October 11th 2010 @ 7:28pm | Report comment
In a reply to all.
I am an aspiring journalist who doesn’t like the idea of spinning the article, or taking out the controversial points. This is an no holds back interview entailing all that went on during the talks.
Chris Tanner is one individual with strong views, and that is exactly what the football in our country needs.
This has not been edited at all by me, or the editor of The Roar.
I aim to create debates on this website, it is very important to create civilized discussions in order to help us understand different opinions.
October 12th 2010 @ 9:55am
Mick said | October 12th 2010 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Mate, here’s some advice. Never agree/show sympathy to your interviewer when asking the questions….big no-no.
October 16th 2010 @ 9:14am
Sam said | October 16th 2010 @ 9:14am | Report comment
You mean interviewee, or subject, Michael Turner was the ‘interviewer’.
October 11th 2010 @ 8:31am
Art Sapphire said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Thanks Michael for confirming that aspiring football agents have the same integrity as used car salesmen.
October 11th 2010 @ 8:51am
MartyW said | October 11th 2010 @ 8:51am | Report comment
Right about the part where he said ANZ stadium is the best is where he lost me, i’m sure the rest is equally brilliant.
October 11th 2010 @ 10:41am
Ben of Phnom Penh said | October 11th 2010 @ 10:41am | Report comment
I’ve been to Qatar, indeed have watched football in Doha ………. it’s not World Cup material.
If a pan-Gulf bid had been put together… say 4 stadiums in UAE, 2 in Oman, 2 in Qatar, 1 in Bahrain and 1 in Kuwait with a mini-tournament to determine the host team then I think the bid would have been strong indeed. If a single visa accompanied tickets allowing holders to travel to all countries unhindered, it would have been irresistable. The problem is that the region’s countries don’t like each other that much.
Qatar’s bids for events is primarily driven by a desire to diversify its economy by making it an events centre, much the same as Dubai. Hence its successful hosting of the Asian games and its impending hosting of the Asian Cup. This diversification away from natural gas towards a service based economy is a sound strategy. Just by bidding Qatar is raising the awareness it is seeking to market itself as a “can do” and “innovative” place. Hence in many ways the World Cup bid is already a success for Qatar, regardless of the result of the December vote.
October 11th 2010 @ 10:54am
oz 2022 said | October 11th 2010 @ 10:54am | Report comment
Guys, why do we have to get all worked up just because we dont like what one individual has to say. whether you like it or not or how biased you are towards our bid, the man has a few correct points here.
“we believe the Qatar bid is the best for football in Asia, and globally as well. The local bid is unfortunately tarnished with controversy. We are a racist nation and I don’t think that will go over with football as easy as it did with the Olympics. We also don’t have the infrastructure for a tournament of that size, nor do we need a 40,000 seat stadium in Newcastle.”
appart from the racist nation comment which is totally untrue, Qatar would be the best country to spread and grow football throughout the whole asian confederation, not us.
newcastle does need a 40k stadium, but please remove the blacktown stadium of the bid gee that is stupid idea if ive ever seen one.
i like Qatars idea of donating their stadiums to other surrounding 3rd world asian nations that need this infastructure, you have to admit it is pretty impressive, thats if they actually go ahead with that.
October 11th 2010 @ 9:16pm
jimbo said | October 11th 2010 @ 9:16pm | Report comment
The Australian bid is similar to Qatar’s in that we will build demountable stadiums.
The 45K Blacktown and Campbelltown stadiums will be demounted after the WC to be 25K specialty sports grounds for Cricket, Rugby league, rugby and football – no white elephants here either.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/london-olympic-flatpack-stadium.php
October 11th 2010 @ 11:23am
Realfootball said | October 11th 2010 @ 11:23am | Report comment
I think in many respects a WC in Qatar is a good idea, and it was good to hear from our culture speaking from experience, even if he is spruiking their bid and thus can hardly be considered unbiased. However, I agree with Ben – a Pan Arab bid might have been doable, but I really cannot see how a tiny country like Qatar can pull it off. That, however, does not take into account the political aspect of the bid’s chances, which will be very significant. Personally, I think it will go to the United States, even though I would love the event to come here.
If these guys can pick up the ball on West Sydney, I hope FFA talks to them very, very soon.
October 11th 2010 @ 11:32am
Mick said | October 11th 2010 @ 11:32am | Report comment
Biased interview if I ever read one, and I’m a journo. Tanner seems like he’s got a grudge against nothing really. Australia racist? Yeah sure, and pigs fly.
October 11th 2010 @ 2:55pm
Realfootball said | October 11th 2010 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
There is racism in every country – the question is how bad is it? I think overall Australia is an admirably tolerant society and that someone times the exceptions get a lot of publicity. But to characterise Australia as a racist country per se, I agree, is ridiculous.
October 11th 2010 @ 3:15pm
Eamonn Flanagan said | October 11th 2010 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
With that ringing endorsement of the Australian World Cup bid from Chris, I expect Frank Lowy and co to be desperate to ring Chris re-his marketing skills for Western Sydney FC, why Frank will surely want to give the Western Sydney bid to Chris asap.
Very very strange interview.
October 12th 2010 @ 9:12am
Wendy said | October 12th 2010 @ 9:12am | Report comment
I undestand he is off to see them today Eamonn … Chris Tanner is a friend of mine, so you can take what I say with a grain of salt I guess.
HE IS however, successful in football administration, and one of the best people to take the game forward.
Why do you think other A-League clubs are talking to him and his bid partners about their A-League model ?
Why is his football-driven business growing rapidly in other countries ?
Why do overseas FAs consult on issues ?
Yes, he is outspoken … because he can be, and he doesn’t brown-nose to anyone. You ask his opinion, you get HIS opinion.
I asked him about the “racist” comments, and he answered with “Hanson, Cronulla, and count the Asians in the A-League”
You don’t have to agree, but you can respect his opinions, like he respects all others.
October 12th 2010 @ 10:25am
dasilva said | October 12th 2010 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Australia is a racist country is an absolute joke and I say that as an ethnic minority in this country. Hanson is not in parliament and not a single member of one nation party is in parliament. Contrast that to England where we have the British National Parties winning council elections. There are also many countries in Europe where far right parties win many MP seats in Government and have a significant voice.
What about Italy where the fans at their own club openly abused black players in their own team. in Russia where Dick Advocaat said that he couldn’t sign black players in his team as the fans would have revolted against the team.
If Australia is a racist country then every country in the world is racist. Does Australia has a problem with racism? Yes it does but people who say we are a racist country never compares Australia race relations with other countries and I ensure that Australia is pretty high up there in terms of tolerance of other cultures.
There are Asians in the A-league so I have no idea what he is talking about. How many Asians does he want for the A-league to be no longer racist?
October 12th 2010 @ 12:12pm
Wendy said | October 12th 2010 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
what crap Bruce
October 12th 2010 @ 12:58pm
Realfootball said | October 12th 2010 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
Well said Bruce. Wendy, you have to do better than “what crap”. What a low calibre response.
Tanner is way off the mark in his comments, and betrays a striking lack of thought. If anything, Hanson demonstrated that we aren’t a racist country, because she couldn’t get elected and has now left for England; Cronulla was years ago and over complex and very specific local issues, and the lack of Asians in the A League is more due to the fact that we can’t afford the kind of players the League needs. What are you suggesting? That we should recruit low calibre Asian players to prove we aren’t racist?
Think before you hit the keyboard next time, and I suggest that Tanner thinks before he broadcasts more ill informed and plainly incorrect assertions. Memo to Chris Tanner: always engage brain before mouth.
October 12th 2010 @ 9:58pm
Midfielder said | October 12th 2010 @ 9:58pm | Report comment
Has Bruce’s post gone… or am I missing something ? ?
October 12th 2010 @ 10:04pm
Mister Football said | October 12th 2010 @ 10:04pm | Report comment
Now I’m curious – what was Bruce’s post?