Help design the future A-League (Part 1)
By Michael Turner, 27 Oct 2010 Michael Turner is a Roar Pro
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2022. It is a year that can cap off the beginning of an era for Australian Football. But it can also spell the end to football as we currently know it.
The FIFA World Cup, should we be granted the hosting rights, is a double edged sword. It is all dependant on how the FFA conducts changes and the forward advances to decide the sport’s fate.
This whole idea got me thinking.
With the advent of the FFA Cup, I couldn’t honestly say I trusted the FFA to get it correct. So how about we let the fans and the community put forward ideas on how we see the sport in the country by 2022.
The Roar of the Crowd.
Below is my opinion on the organisation of the sport by 2022 (with help from Chris Tanner). To agree, disagree, or put forward ideas, comment below, and in a week I will compile the most requested ideas in “The Roar’s Master Plan for 2022”.
2022:
We now have to ask the question of how many clubs will be in the A-League competition in the year 2022. There are many different variables to put into account; however the idea of 20 teams is one that seems quite well rounded.
The main logic behind the placement of these 20 clubs is a tricky challenge. The introduction of teams and the placement are all major factors in the successful implementation of a sporting club in the competitive Australian sport landscape.
Sydney will ideally have three teams in the competition. These will be spread out amongst the city to cover the major demographics. Sydney FC of course maintains the inner city and eastern suburbs. A team covering the Western Sydney demographic, much like the Sydney Rovers bid is attempting, however basing it even more as a Western Sydney team, playing ideally out of Parramatta Stadium and not Homebush.
The third team will be ideally located in the South of Sydney, basing itself out of the Sutherland area (Toyota Park), aiming at the southern demographic to as far as the south city.
Melbourne will preferably be graced with three clubs, the two current clubs, Melbourne Victory and Melbourne Heart in their current positions, and another club possibly aimed more at the other reaches of Melbourne. Some ideas have even suggested Ballarat as a possible base for the club, aiming at the large district/region around it.
Adelaide’s strong support for the Reds has made it easily viable to base two clubs out of the city. Another club to be located out of the outer reaches of the city, although another idea could be basing the club in the same demographic as Adelaide United, forming a type of Inter Milan/AC Milan style rivalry. Both will ideally play in the same football stadium which will be constructed for the 2022 World Cup.
Even the idea of ascension of the Adelaide City club will be an idea for the local rivalry.
Perth is also a potential spot for two clubs, with the original Perth Glory and another club once again possibly forming the same rivalry as Adelaide. The club could also possibly be located more to the east forming the ‘barrier’ rivalry so-to-speak, or basing the club as far north as Fremantle, which ash once been noted as a possible area to base a football club.
Brisbane is an area that also warrants two football clubs, with the original Brisbane Roar, and another one possibly located on the north side districts of the city, or possibly to the west. The key demographic is appealing to the local football fans that support the local league sides, and those who may be keen on other codes of football.
Providing the marketing is done correctly, it can survive as football is in a summer time slot professionally.
North Queensland is another area that is good for a football side. The current North Queensland Fury is the club that will be located up in the far north, and should be kept in strong hands.
The key with the northern-most club is attempting to appeal to supporters in the rugby league heartland, and provide interesting and strong football to bring in the crowds. Appealing to the youth of the local community is also imperative to secure a fan base in the future.
Similarly to North Queensland, the Gold Coast is another area that warrants an A-League club, and similar strategies should be implemented by the Gold Coast United club as the ones in North Queensland.
This is because both areas are based in arguably rugby league heartlands, and the key is to embrace the youth, and secure a future fan base for the club.
Newcastle is an area steeped in football history, dating back to the strong migrant influence during its strong migrant days. The area has yet to connect with the local Jets; however a key is definitely strong marketing techniques. Nathan Tinkler has definitely taken the bullet, providing marketing strategies and ideas to help connect with the local footballing market.
Central Coast is another team that is strong in the A-League and will be as strong in 2022. Connecting with the local community is something that the Central Coast Mariners have done well compared to all the clubs at the present time.
Their fan base even stretches down to the North West of Sydney, which shows their connection with the local youth sides, examples being their connection with Gladesville-Hornsby Spirit FC (Former Northern Spirit).
New Zealand is an area that can support two clubs. There has been much debate onto whether the cross Tasman nation should be included in our national competitions; however the answer is definitely a yes. They provide a potentially different kind of football, and as close yet rival nations, we should embrace the nation in football growth.
Teams can be based out of Wellington (Phoenix) and Auckland.
Canberra is an area that has yearned for a Football side almost since the beginning of the competition, and by 2022, Canberra will be an area that is almost a no-brainer for a football club. Its ‘Capital Punishment’ group has garnered the support of the local community, state support and that of several local celebrities.
Finally, the Wollongong area is an area with strong footballing ties, with the successful Wollongong Wolves. Many of our current and former Socceroos were born and bred in the Illawarra area, and the club is one that is deserving of a football club.
The fan base is already there, the FFA just needs to implement the correct strategies to connect with the local community.
The key with all these clubs is marketing strategies. Without correct marketing or connecting with the community, the A-League will isolate itself from potential supporters. Connecting with the youth, offering promotions, ticket offers, and advertisements are all imperative in the success of the Hyundai A-League in 2022.
An FA Cup style competition will be in full effect by 2022, with all state level sides and some from New Zealand.
They will face opponents in the local regions first, before the next ‘tier’ of the competition, where the A-League teams will enter.
The idea of 20 teams can also be expanded into two divisions of 10; however with the idea of teams shutting down upon relegation, a conference style division of clubs could be devised, similar to that of the MLS back in 2004, where it was implemented with relative success.
Clubs should have their own strip sponsor, control over advertisements, and the growth of club identity, to help with the community connection and legacy growth. The club model will be taken on a team by team basis, and will be based around the community in which the club is being planted.
An Independent authority should be in control of the A-League, and not directly the FFA. The authority will be in control of all except major league decisions, and finances, which are to be controlled by the FFA.
There is no salary cap, with club wage budgets accompanied by a bank guarantee, with the FFA to pay player wages and invoice the clubs. Clubs that get behind in payments to the FFA receive no competition points until the bills are under control.
This, however, shouldn’t happen due to the bank guarantee.
The A-League in 2022 we would all hope to be a competition that will be on par with the majority of leagues in Asia, let alone others such as the MLS. It will be strengthen with the legacy of the World Cup in 2022.
The above is the opinion of me, Michael Turner, with ideas presented by Player-Agent Chris Tanner.
These are by no means perfect, and I now ask those of you who took the time to read this article to present your ideal A-League for 2022 in the comments section below, or even just simple ideas that nobody has mentioned before.
In a couple of weeks, I will compile the best of these ideas into The Roar’s A-League.
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October 27th 2010 @ 5:37am
Midfielder said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:37am | Report comment
So teams
North Queensland
2 in Brisbane
Gold Coast
Newcastle
Central Coast
3 in Sydney
Woolonong
Canberra
3 In Melbourne
2 in Adelaide
2 New Zealand Teams
2 in Perth
What about Darwin….
Also very ambitious … currently we have 11 team … that means 9 new teams in 11 years almost one a year… like that means 38 home and away matches plus FIFA breaks and other competitions or a 45 to 46 week season…. within 11 years …
Love the passion but creating such huge benchmarks failure is the only result and more importantly you left Darwin off … arguably the city with the biggest growth potential … as it has heaps of water and is close to major Asian countries…
Also that we could get access to stadiums… the players needed to run a 20 team competition …. and that Australia is ready for a 45 or 46 week competition … the AFL & NRL cannot be wished away…
October 27th 2010 @ 8:26am
DS said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:26am | Report comment
2 in Melb and 1 in Geelong based out of Skilled Stadium which will have been upgraded as a result of hosting the World Cup
October 27th 2010 @ 5:18pm
TCunbeliever said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:18pm | Report comment
I’m not sure the locals would like that too much…
Bendigo or even Albury/Wodonga would be better locations.. And they don’t have any high-profile clubs to compete with, with lots of support from other rural centers in the area.
October 27th 2010 @ 5:54am
Chuq said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:54am | Report comment
I don’t know what’s worse – the fact that you don’t see a spot for a Tasmanian team – which already has a bid more progressed than at least 6 of the other teams here – or that the first comment to point out a missing location suggests Darwin (pop 100k) over Tassie (pop 500k)!
October 27th 2010 @ 5:20pm
TCunbeliever said | October 27th 2010 @ 5:20pm | Report comment
I was thinking the same thing..
I know this isn’t “code wars” but a A-League team in Tassie would be a bit of a blow to Australian Football, who consider they have absolute control over that state.
October 27th 2010 @ 6:09am
Chris said | October 27th 2010 @ 6:09am | Report comment
michael this makes my drool thinking about this. but i think 20 teams is going to happen i dont think. im not sure about a third team being in sydney or melbourne being sustainable for a very long time. targeting more regional areas like wollongong and canberra seem to be a good way forward. also geelong and tassy look pretty keen to get a team of their own. and auckland was already tried and it failed, look at christchurch instead. and i reckon if the celery cap was ditched all the teams are gonna go screw themselves with high wage bills
October 27th 2010 @ 6:26am
Midfielder said | October 27th 2010 @ 6:26am | Report comment
Chuq
I was responding to the article…I would have a Tassie team in … I simply listed the teams from the article… for me 2 Perth teams will not work nor 2 teams in Adelaide … but for me the glaring omission is Darwin…
October 27th 2010 @ 7:07am
thinker said | October 27th 2010 @ 7:07am | Report comment
The A League of the future looks like this… in 2012-13
current 11 + TOP 3 NSWPL(2011-12)
-Qualification process -1 season licenses for “new” clubs
-1 season extension if they make finals and pass an off field bench marks
by 2020 all clubs will need to go through the same process of NSWPL “P&R”
-The summer NSWPL will expand to 16 (2012-13) with the FFA’s Blessing
The Expansion teams for the NSWPL are Canberra FC, Sth Melbourne, Melbourne Knights, Sunshine CoastFC and Brisbane Strikers
October 27th 2010 @ 8:17am
djsinnema said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:17am | Report comment
I am surprised that you had suggested that both Perth and Adelaide should have a 2nd Team each. I always thought of those two city’s as being lucky to support the current clubs that they have.
Another Suggestion that will be found questionable is the idea of a Bendigo team. Victorians are generally under the impression that any 3rd Victorian team will be located in Geelong. Upon getting the World cup, Geelong’s Kadinia Park will get a massive upgrade, making it the largest stadium outside of Melbourne in Victoria.It would be a shame for there not being a local team in the A-league to host games there.
I always thought that Tasmania should get a side. They are dying to have a team in any national comp, and will likely play out of two stadiums. Darwin is another city that should have representative in a national league, It surely would have a larger population in its Metropolitan area than Gosford and Newcastle. Canberra is also another city in desperate need of representation in the A-league, it too will receive a fancy new stadium.
Last question, why Auckland, the last team based there failed dismally, i thought you would rather have a team in the south island, possibly Christchurch or Dunedin.
October 27th 2010 @ 11:27am
Whites said | October 27th 2010 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Population of the following areas-
Newcastle: 288,732 (2006)
Greater Newcastle: 540,796 (2006)
Central Coast: 297,956 (2006)
Wollongong: 202,000 (2009)
Illawarra/Shoalhaven/Southern Highlands: 430,000 (2009)
ACT: 351,000 (2009)
Darwin: 124,800 (2009)
Northern Territory: 227,025 (2009)
Hobart: 212,019 (2009)
Tasmania: 502,600 (2009)
Even in 2022 Darwin would come behind Wollongong, Canberra and Tasmania in consideration of new teams.
October 27th 2010 @ 8:21am
King of the Gorgonites said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:21am | Report comment
How about the FFA stop wasting tax payers dollars. scrap the A league.
Bring back the NSL!
October 27th 2010 @ 8:32am
DS said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:32am | Report comment
Yeah the good old days where Chileans, Scots, Maltese, Thais, Poles, Germans, Brazilians, Spanish, Portguese, Aussies etc had no team to follow.
October 30th 2010 @ 2:51pm
Syd Oly said | October 30th 2010 @ 2:51pm | Report comment
Melita and sunshine georgies were both maltese and in the nsl. What poles germans spanish portuguese and thais
October 27th 2010 @ 11:56am
Midfielder said | October 27th 2010 @ 11:56am | Report comment
King
What taxpayers money… no Commonwealth Gov money goes to A-League.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:03pm
p.Tah said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
yes it does, indirectly of course… the A-League owners use their losses as a tax right off to offset the profits they achieve elsewhere in business
October 27th 2010 @ 12:14pm
True Tah said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
Midfielder
doesnt the FFA get a fair amount of government funding?
And isnt the FFA currently supporting a number of A-League clubs?
I dont have access to the bank accounts of the FFA or any HAL clubs, but given the above two facts (if true that is), it is quite possible that government funds have been forwarded to HAL clubs?
October 27th 2010 @ 3:10pm
Midfielder said | October 27th 2010 @ 3:10pm | Report comment
TT
Yes and No…
Thw womens league gets 4 million …. the youth league gets I think 4 million…. the Olympic teams get whatever the long standing payment is made for team sports … like the rugby 7′s will receive….
Other than that none… both the Women & Youth leagues were seed capital and have a 4 year life…
As far as I a aware there is no governemnt funding for any other part of football…
October 27th 2010 @ 8:57am
Chris said | October 27th 2010 @ 8:57am | Report comment
I’m concerned that this is an awfully optimistic model for the A-League. I say keep all the current clubs including West Sydney Rovers.
In terms of the expansions:
A second team for Perth or Adelaide are poor ideas. These are areas without the substantial populations that already exist in Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Extra teams in Sydney and Brisbane make sense, particularly in the areas you have suggested. However, I would suggest that a team based in Geelong rather than Melbourne would make more sense.
Additional expansions should be in Canberra, Wollongong and Tasmania. An additional team in New Zealand also makes sense, but on the basis that New Zealand or Oceania as a whole becomes part of the AFC. That makes 19 teams in total and a good starting point.
October 27th 2010 @ 4:18pm
VootballKid said | October 27th 2010 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
“A second team for Perth or Adelaide are poor ideas.”
Agreed.
I would also like to see Oceania become a sub group of Asia so that the domestic competitions can be merged. In order to go from two to four Champions League spots we need a second tier with promotion/relegation. I would like to see the NZ comp (initially) form part of that second tier. And I would like to see an FA-style Cup encompassing all of Oceania and maybe Singapore as well.
As for Tassie — it may have 500k all up but how far are they from Hobart and Launceston? Don’t think it will work there.
October 27th 2010 @ 4:25pm
Chuq said | October 27th 2010 @ 4:25pm | Report comment
Approx 240k in and around Hobart
2 hours drive away – Launceston – Approx 120k in and around the area
Continuing on, another 1-1.5 hours drive away – the north west coast – a string of cities and towns including Devonport and Burnie, total another 60-70k.
The 2 hour drive is close enough that the die hard fans will still be able to go to most matches, but far enough that all the matches in one city would dis-enfranchise half the state.
The TUFC taskforce plans to play half the matches in Hobart and half in Launceston. From they very start they have been of the opinion that the team must be a statewide team. Pre-season, youth league etc. matches can be in other parts including the north west.
October 27th 2010 @ 9:03am
Andyroo said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:03am | Report comment
16 teams 30 rounds sounds good to me.
October 28th 2010 @ 1:46pm
Badger said | October 28th 2010 @ 1:46pm | Report comment
I agree have the current 12 teams + 4 new teams before 2018.
What i believe should happen is have the the current 12 teams Play in the a-league and then have a 2nd tier competition with 7 or 8 or so teams maybe.
1. Fremantle
2. a second Adelaide team
3. Tasmania
4. Geelong
5. Southern Sydney/cronulla/sutherland
6. Christchurch NZL
7. Darwin/ NT team
After Each end of season finishing, the winning club advances to the A-League until we have 16 teams
October 27th 2010 @ 9:52am
Chris said | October 27th 2010 @ 9:52am | Report comment
nz expansion would cause a whole new wave of problems with the afc.
October 27th 2010 @ 12:44pm
Whites said | October 27th 2010 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
By 2022 the OFC might have been moved into the AFC. Considering it only has 1 country with any hope in the next 100 years of making a world cup I don’t see why it is needed. If that does happen the AFC might be split into a West Asian Confederation and an East Asian Confederation. Although an issue there is that no west asian teams made the last world cup.
October 27th 2010 @ 3:06pm
Gibbo said | October 27th 2010 @ 3:06pm | Report comment
well not doing something cos THE MAN says not too isnt very cool