Will it be all blue for France this Autumn?
By Ben S, 13 Nov 2010 Ben S is a Roar Guru
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A few weeks ago, I was informed by somebody that Marc Lievremont had expressed an intention to mimic the brand of rugby played by the All Blacks. It was therefore with great excitement that I awaited the unleashing of Lievremont’s first side for the Autumn series versus Fiji.
Unsurprisingly, I was most unsurprised with the Lievremont brand of conservatism.
I’ve long been of the opinion that French rugby under Lievremont has more in common with South African rugby of the 2009 era, and I think this first selection confirms that. Granted the side has been hit with a raft of injuries (Trinh-Duc, Servat, Servat, Szarzewski and Wisniewski, himself an injury replacement), but with there being 14 domestic teams there should always be an alternative, and I don’t feel Lievremont has fully exercised the alternate options.
Significantly, I also feel that he is not embracing the effects of the current law interpretations.
The odd thing is that France has some wonderfully talented players to call upon, and yet it seems that Lievremont is still so attached to the equally conservative Laporte era.
Jerome Schuster gets a debut start at loosehead, and Luc Ducalon starts at tighthead (his second cap but first start). Guilhem Guirado holds down the middle. The positive news is that Guirado is a combative, fiesty and mobile hooker who has, on occasion, played in the back row.
He also forms a club partnership with Schuster.
The bad news is that Schuster and Ducalcon are basically meatheads, to coin an unpleasant phase. Ducalcon, a strong scrummager, makes John Smit look svelte. Neither are notably bad handlers of the ball, but then neither seem equipped to make the necessary athletic impact at Test level.
All front rows have that balance, but this front row seems too err too strongly on the side of the set-piece.
The locks are equally heavy duty as the props: Romain Millo-Chluski has been an inconsistent selection during Leivremont’s reign, but he and Jerome Thion, a late injury call-up, are much of a muchness. Both are big men, both are basically 4 locks and both are set-piece merchants.
If you examine most tight fives currently playing Test rugby, they seem selected to carry the ball, hit rucks and support other ball carriers.
This tight five seems set to rumble from one set-piece to another.
The back row looks vibrant, dynamic and powerful. Imanol Harinordoquy captains the side, and with his clubmate Thion playing at 5, and with his other team mates Yachvili and Traille playing at 9 and 10 there is a strong Basque spine to the club. With Harinordoquy and Ouedraogo, packing down on the blindside (but really the openside) the lineout should be offensively fluid and defensively challenging.
The youthful Alexander Lapandry finalises the trio.
The back row is the one truly strong unit of the France 22. Although none of the starters are over the ball players they have all played in different positions in the back row, and are all very athletic and excellent support players. Harinordoquy and Ouedraogo also carry the ball well, and run good lines.
They are technically very competent.
Lapandry isn’t a regular for his team, Clermont, but he has long been perceived as the coming man. Lapandry is slightly willowy, and is another solid lineout player, but he doesn’t offer a huge presence on the field, in terms of his tackling, slowing down the ball or carrying the ball.
To that extent the back row lacks a real big man in the mould of Picamoles.
All three are slightly too similar.
The 9-10 channel looks one-dimensional with the selection of the French Frans Steyn at 10, Damien Traille. Traille has a massive boot, an occasional fear of tackling, and a good off-load.
However, he is not a 10, just like he was never a 15, although I suppose this is less of an issue given that Yachvili likes to play at first receiver and control a side. To that extent we may see Traille taking the ball to the line more. Conversely, we may see Yachvili and Traille putting up huge punts for the pack to rumble on to.
Either way, repeated crash balls or big kicks aren’t currently in sync with contemporary Test rugby.
The centre pairing is interesting: David Marty retains his place and Fabrice Estebanez debuts. Estebanez is gathering media interest in France due to the fact that he played XIII (or rugby league). He is a big physical man and can off-load, but he isn’t in the same class as Traille as a 12, and his club, Brive, isn’t performing particularly well in the league.
His selection hints at an all too predictable attack – big pack, big kickers and big 10 and 12, however if Marty can play off Estabanez then France should find they make good ground. That said, the passing ability of Estebanez and Marty is not spectacularly high, which makes me wonder how much ball the back three will receive?
The back three picks itself to an extent; Rougerie is playing more and more rugby at 13 these days, and Malzieu hasn’t improved his technical faults since his debut Test season. Maxime Medard is top scorer in the Top 14 (by a whole 2 tries) and Julian Arias is playing well in an energised Stade Francais side.
Jerome Porical isn’t the most exciting of full backs, but he is a sharp shooter kicker – but then so is Yachvili. It is also worth noting that the French back three is comparatively slight in stature, and whilst Medard and Arias will want to attack the opposition Porical is generally more reluctant.
The bench looks more imposing, with Domingo, Pierre and Chabal able to come on and inject some aggression and urgency into proceedings, with Morgan Parra also able to provide nous and direction at either 9 or 10.
All things considered I find it a shame that Lievremont has opted for this side. France has some excellent rugby players who could flourish under the new law interpretations, and yet we have a mix-mash of big, stodgy forwards, a slow 10-12 channel and a back three that also seems to lack balance.
Lievremont has often been accused of being a confused leader, and I think this selection highlights his faults. Granted there are injuries, but then why revert to this sort of line-up when most other Test sides are leaning toward dynamic and all-inclusive rugby?
Perhaps Lievremont thinks the pack will pummel the Fijians, and the big midfield will wear down the inside Fijian defence, but where is the long-term thinking in that?
Whatever happens these coming weeks are very, very significant for French rugby, and how they respond from the summer humiliation.
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November 13th 2010 @ 10:37am
stuff happens said | November 13th 2010 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Thanks Ben,I don’t know enough about French club rugby to comment but French team selections often seem bizarre to us lesser mortals! And then as we all know they are capable of winning games that really matter ( as the AB’s know only too well) .
My interest in this match centres on Fiji . I think six of their squad plays in NZ ,nine play in France & about four in England. They amazed a few people in the last RWC and it will be interesting to see if they look capable of playing as well next year.Their best players get together so infrequently it’s difficult to judge them so these matches will be interesting.
Good on the French for hosting them .
November 13th 2010 @ 9:03pm
Ben S said | November 13th 2010 @ 9:03pm | Report comment
FYI SH, the Fiji 22 is, which has been listed as ‘probable’ (?) is:
Fiji (Probable):15 Norman Ligairi, 14 Sereli Nakelevuqi, 13 Albert Vulivuli, 12 Seru Rabeni, 11 Napolioni Nalaga, 10 Seremaia Baï, 9 Nemia Kenatale, 8 Sisa Koyamaibole, 7 Akapusi Qera, 6 Semisi Naevo, 5 Jone Qovu, 4 Wame Lewaravu, 3 Deacon Manu (cap), 2 Tuapati Talemaitoga, 1 Graham Dewes
Replacements: 16 Setefano Somoca, 17 Viliame Veikoso, 18 Sekonaia Kalou, 19 Malakai Ravulo, 20 Seveci Taka, 21 Josh Matavesi, 22 Gabriele Lovobalavu
Off the top of my head Nakelevuqi, Koyamaibole, Lewaravu and Qera play in England – with Qera and Koyaimabole proving themselves as very, very good players, and Vulivuli, Rabeni, Nalaga, Bai, Qovu and Lovobalavu play in France. Rabeni has long been one of the better centres in Europe (big, direct and physical) and Nalaga is one of the best wingers in Europe (big, direct, physical and fast). The backline certainly has size, but with Bai at 10, who is more of a 12, they again suffer from the Pacific fly-half syndrome. When have we last seen a Pacific fly half able to marshal the side around and dictate matters, as opposed to the fly-half looking to run and not being the greatest kicker? You might recall Deacon Manu from NZ Maori duty. He’s been brought in to captain the side and steady the scrum, which shows the paucity of Fijian tight forwards. This Fiji side has some great ball carriers and a very mobile forward back five, but again no dominating scrum, and no fly half able to guide them out of a tough corner.
November 13th 2010 @ 11:42pm
Colin N said | November 13th 2010 @ 11:42pm | Report comment
Good to see Wame Lewaravu and Sisa Koyamaibole in there. Wame’s been a bit of a revelation since moving from London Welsh and I think Koyamaibole has finally got the hint and lost a bit of weight over the last month.
However, the team simply looks like a team of crash merchants. At the moment, Samoa look to have the strongest squad out of the Pacific Island nations. The backline they’ve put out againt Ireland looks pretty awesome – the classy Paul Williams at full-back, a mixture of pace, balance and power on the wings in Lemi (who’s been a bit of a disappointment this season IMO) and Alex Tuilagi.
In the centres, there’s the excellent Mapasua, but I’ve not seen a lot of Pisi myself. Again, I’ve not seen a lot of Lavea, but Fotualii had an excellent Super 14 season.
As for the French, that team looks incredibly uninspiring. I presume (or hope) that they’re just trying out new combinations.
November 16th 2010 @ 9:15pm
Ben S said | November 16th 2010 @ 9:15pm | Report comment
I backed Williams to be the Sale top try scorer at Paddy Power. He’s letting me down badly, Colin.
November 18th 2010 @ 11:14am
Colin N said | November 18th 2010 @ 11:14am | Report comment
He is! But he’s still playing very well. He takes good lines, but he seems more of a creator than a scorer.
Also, how many full-backs end as top try scorers?
Foden, for all the good he does, he doesn’t score a lot of tries.
November 18th 2010 @ 8:03pm
Ben S said | November 18th 2010 @ 8:03pm | Report comment
That’s a fair point, but a) I always thought he was a clever footballer, and b) it was down to him, Ormsby or Kayaimabole. I looked to Scott Hamilton as an example of a clever footballer being able to unlock the defences over here – although whilst we’re on the topic I’m certainly not as big a fan of Hamilton as Stuart Barnes is.
November 20th 2010 @ 10:20pm
Colin N said | November 20th 2010 @ 10:20pm | Report comment
Why Ormsby and Koyamaibole just out of interest?
Also, Cohen had a great game last night.
November 23rd 2010 @ 7:26am
Ben S said | November 23rd 2010 @ 7:26am | Report comment
‘Why Ormsby and Koyamaibole just out of interest?’
I wasn’t overwhelmed by the pre-season signings Brewer made, and Koyamaibole and Ormsby scored a reasonable amount of tries last season.
November 16th 2010 @ 9:19pm
Ben S said | November 16th 2010 @ 9:19pm | Report comment
And so it goes… The French fatties rumble about, kick some ball, kick some goals and score a pushover try. Thank you so much, Mr Lievremont. And who said France would adapt best of the European sides to the new law interpretations? Wow.
For interest – the 22 versus Argentina:
France: 15 Alexis Palisson, 14 Yoann Huget, 13 Aurelien Rougerie, 12 Yannick Jauzion, 11 Marc Andreu, 10 Damien Traille, 9 Morgan Parra, 8 Sebastien Chabal, 7 Julien Bonnaire, 6 Thierry Dusautoir (capt), 5 Lionel Nallet, 4 Julien Pierre, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 William Servat, 1 Thomas Domingo.
Replacements: 16 Guilhem Guirado, 17 Luc Ducalcon, 18 Jerome Thion, 19 Imanol Harinordoquy, 20 Dimitri Yachvili, 21 Fabrice Estebanez, 22 Jerome Porical.
Interesting back three selection, but given Rougerie can’t throw a ball sideways or backwards I suspect we’re looking at another kick and forwards rumble. Nothing wrong with that I say, but it is 2010. It can’t be bad to have some different plans up your sleeve! Marc, Marc, Marc… Why are you doing this to us?
November 16th 2010 @ 9:50pm
Katipo said | November 16th 2010 @ 9:50pm | Report comment
The heavy rain made it difficult to draw to much from the French victory.
The team picked to face Argentina looks stronger – Argentina appear to have gone backwards based on their performance against Italy. France by 15+
November 16th 2010 @ 10:50pm
Ben S said | November 16th 2010 @ 10:50pm | Report comment
I still think this selection is far too conservative. Take the back row as an example, where is the link man? Dusautoir is a tackler, Bonnaire a line-out player and Chabal a hit man. I really think Lievremont’s game plan is wrong – big pack, big set piece, big kicker, big backline, little invention. Where have we seen this before?