FIFA disgraces game with farcical decision on Qatar
By Adrian Musolino, 3 Dec 2010 Adrian Musolino is a Roar Expert
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Going against its own technical committee’s report that said Qatar was not a suitable place to host a World Cup, FIFA exposed its seedy underbelly to the world by awarding the tournament to the tiny Middle Eastern nation.
Qatar is a nation of just 1.6 million people, spanning just 11,437 km2 (ranked the 163rd largest country in the world – behind the Falkland Islands), with only one major city (Doha), one airport, a questionable human rights record, and incredibly strict laws relating to alcohol consumption.
To think it is suitable place to host the largest sporting event in the world, over the United States of America, Japan, South Korea and Australia, is laughable. And it made their rise to favouritism and subsequent victory in the 2022 World Cup bidding race almost farcical as we watched it unfold.
FIFA’s independent technical team, which inspected all bidding countries, reported serious flaws in the Qatari bid; namely the heat of June/July and the size of the country and close proximity of stadiums – 10 of its 12 stadiums are within a 25-kilometre area.
“The fact that ten out of the 12 stadiums are located within a 25-30 kilometre radius could represent an operational and logistical challenge,” said FIFA’s report.
“The fact that the competition is planned in June/July, the two hottest months of the year in this region, has to be considered as a potential health risk for players, officials, the FIFA family and spectators, and requires precautions to be taken,” it continued.
Qatar will need to spend an enormous amount on its promised air-conditioned stadiums and the like, while making some concessions on its strict alcohol laws.
It’s said construction of the stadiums will cost around $3 billion, but that figure will skyrocket when the reality of how it is to overcome its shortcomings hits home.
So considering these deficiencies, we are left with the obvious question of why Qatar.
Well, their political muscle lead, undoubtedly, by Asian Football Confederation President Mohamed Bin Hammam obviously was a decisive factor, and the rest of the committee was cajoled into voting for them given they scored 11 votes in the first round (nearest rival Korea Republic had four, Australia just one) of 2022 voting.
We can never know the wheeling and dealings that went on behind closed doors, but it obviously went against any logical decision on the suitability of hosting a World Cup.
This isn’t to totally discount Qatar’s bid.
Their presentation in Zurich was strong (one of the strongest) and showed there is more to their bid than dollars.
Like Australia and Russia, the Middle East is uncharted water for the World Cup, so President Sepp Blatter had some justification to play up that message (although none of us really believed him). And hopefully the decision brings about a closer and more open relationship between the Middle East/Islamic world and the rest of the world.
But in going against their technical committee’s report and showing once and for all that the political games and deals is what counts in such decisions, FIFA have done serious damage to its own reputation.
There can be no other reason why Qatar won the bid aside from this geopolitical game, making future bids irrelevant. No matter their suitability and strength, if you don’t have the political backing you have no shot, seems to be the message. Just look at England’s 2018 bid – strong technical report, strong football heritage and the strongest presentation in Zurich, yet they walk away with two votes and a first round exit.
FIFA exposed its seedy underbelly, once reserved for the backrooms, to a global audience – and the damage of that decision and the subsequent fallout will have huge consequences for the governing body and the game. One wonders if the financial windfall from a Qatari World Cup is worth that damage.
Thankfully the 2018 and 2022 farcical bidding process is over – although the recriminations will continue unabated.
How fitting that on the day two World Cups were announced at once, one of the countries allegedly found to have colluded with a bidder in the other race should win (Qatar), while the other missed out by six votes (Spain-Portugal, defeated by Russia in the final round of voting for 2018).
It was certainly a dark day for the game.
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December 3rd 2010 @ 3:58am
Peter said | December 3rd 2010 @ 3:58am | Report comment
Truly disappointed about only getting one vote . . .
If the current rotational policy where a continent cannot host again until 3 world cups later continues, then this will mean Australia (as part of Asia) can’t bid again until 2034- which China will win. Then that would mean 2046 would be the next chance- which is when India will win. So realistically, Australia have no chance until 2058! and that is not including other Asian nations breaking through!
So the options are:
1) get rid of the continental rotation policy, say that a country cannot host again for another 30 years and the best technical bid should win
2) change the rotation policy to be “issues based”. For example, new frontier one cup, football traditional powerhouse another cup, highest revenue raising another cup, etc. I know, could be hard to define, but say FIFA want a new host to win, then a country like England or USA who have already hosted it, don’t have to bother bidding.
3) Australia go back to Oceania and then we can bid for every World Cup until we get one! (Unless PNG or NZ become significant players in the next 20 years, which I highly doubt)
hmmm, that’s my out of square thinking at this time of the day . . .
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:05am
Fez's are cool said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:05am | Report comment
Go back to oceania and get 1 guarenteed WC spot for oceania. Then bid every 4 years…
Thats a big win for coruption at FIFA.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:26am
Scott Adams said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:26am | Report comment
They’ve already scrapped the rotation policy.
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:43am
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:43am | Report comment
Today’s announcement was as dissapointing and as hard to swallow as when the referee award Italy a penalty in the dying minutes of the 2006 FIFA WC ’round of 16′ game against Australia!
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:46am
apaway said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:46am | Report comment
PNG and NZ are both bigger than Qatar.
December 8th 2010 @ 9:14pm
sydboz said | December 8th 2010 @ 9:14pm | Report comment
maldives have more of a real population
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:03am
Marsh said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:03am | Report comment
Qatar has no business hosting a World Cup.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:38am
EP - Rugbywits said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:38am | Report comment
Qatar shouldnt get the world cup. Its obviously not the best equipped bid.
If they want to just award the world cup to whoever they feel like awarding it to then they should just do that, dont pretend there is such thing as a bidding process.
Although, that would mean there is less opportunity for the old mates that run FIFA to be paid out. So maybe a bidding process is in everyones best interest if you want to leave a ‘legacy’ anyway. (legacy for his kids more like.)
Have a look at the Australian press and in summary they say, “Surely if we didnt win the USA should have won. Qatar winning is a victory for corruption.” And then look at the USA press in summary, “Surely if we didnt win then Australia should have won. Qatar winning is a victory for corruption.
The problem with football is that half the nations involved are just resigned to the corruption occuring and there being nothing they can do about it. Less traditional soccer nations like USA and Australia look at the process and see it for what it is, a load of bull.
I obviously know more about rugby (and cricket, less obviously) than soccer, and want rugby to grow.
The main problem with that is how to grow it without it being more and more corrupt like FIFA.
I’ve followed soccer for a long time, many late nights watching LFC (YNWA) but this makes me wonder whether the international side of soccer is worth the effort at all.
I mean half the problem with our bid was that there was only meant to be 2 stadiums per city and we had to work out a way to get enough stadiums in different cities to the standard required. Then they lump their stadiums together next to each other like its the olympics. What a farce.
Caveat, I dont think Australia is the best country in the world to host this event, but out of the ones presented, we were easily in the top 2 best bids. Possibly 3 if you include Japan, they would do a good job even by themselves I’m sure, but its not the Japanese International Bi-Decade Cup.
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:10am
Simmo said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:10am | Report comment
“Qatar has no business hosting a World Cup.”
Qatar couldn’t host a super bowl. Let alone the equivalent 63 SBs that is the World Cup.
Nothing short of a disgrace.
December 6th 2010 @ 1:33pm
mahony said | December 6th 2010 @ 1:33pm | Report comment
By 2022 the 32 nations competing could be 48 I read somewhere?
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:11am
thom_canberra said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:11am | Report comment
I could see it in the eyes of both Sepp Blater and the Qatari guy that they couldn’t believe Qatar had actually got it.
Did anyone hear the voice of the Qatari guy when he said ‘we will deliver’ or ‘we will not dissapoint’ I bet he is thinking; ‘Sh*t, now we actually have to make this thing work, how is this possible’
They are as shocked as we are, or maybe not…
No matter how much money they throw at it, the 2022 World Cup if hosted in Qatar is destined to failure.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:26am
CT said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:26am | Report comment
CRAP
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:10am
BigAl said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:10am | Report comment
All I can say, it’s going to be very interesting to see what they actually come up with ?
December 3rd 2010 @ 2:48pm
Ned said | December 3rd 2010 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
What happens if there is a full blown war happening over there in the build up?
Will they move the WC to another safer country????
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:45pm
Nic Belardo said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
Yes. This is what happened in 1986. Mexico were awarded their second hosting of the FIFA World Cup (first in 1970) because Colombia went into a financial crisis, and resigned their rights in 1982.
I believe a separate bidding process was held to host the 1986 World Cup, between Canada, USA, and Mexico
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:08pm
Steve said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:08pm | Report comment
What if North Korea take over the pacific rim and invades Australia…….please remove yourself from the population
December 4th 2010 @ 4:05am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 4:05am | Report comment
BigAl
It must be big……BIG Disappoinment for sure.
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:19am
Qatar 2022 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:19am | Report comment
Adrian,
is my post going to get deleted for disagreeing with you?
why is Qatar 2022 a fracial decision? Please watch Qatar’s presentation video and then watch Australia video, what are the main differences?
with all due respect the two videos are light years appart. with all due respect the australian video is comical and just shows off australia without any football culture, australian football history, you didnt even include johnny warren in there! an australian legend!
the stadiums in Qatar are amazing and will be donated to poor nations after the world cup, australias stadiums were being donated to AFL!
the technical report is just a giude of what needs to be repaired if that country wins the bid and Qatar has alot of work to do, but you will an amazing world cup.
there are 400 million people living in the middle east who are in raptures. please consider that.
the legacy of the middle east is far greater than any legacy that australia would have to offer
sorry australia
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:30am
Mad said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:30am | Report comment
It’s not about Australia versus Qatar, it’s about the suitability of Qatar over the other bids. It’s too small for a World Cup.
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:36am
Qatar 2022 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:36am | Report comment
Every Country deserves a chance, regardless of its size (which is out of its control)
the decision doesnt take size into account because it is looking at the bigger picture, i wont go into them but if you see the video presentation you will see how Qatar made themselves look bigger than all the other bidders when in fact they were the smallest in size and population.
this one is for the middle east
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:39am
Mad said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:39am | Report comment
Yes but the fact they “made themselves look bigger than all the other bidders” isn’t going to overcome the size issues. Agree Middle East deserved a World Cup, but should have been co-hosted with someone else, Dubai or someone, for their own good cause reality is going to catch up with Qatar.
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:49am
Qatar 2022 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:49am | Report comment
there is 12 years to work on all that,
I feel for australia, if Qatar didnt win i was hoping Australia would win, but you cant imagine the changes this is going to make in the middle east.
Middle east have been begging for a world cup in 92 years,
and you can see the trend fifa are doing, nth america 1994, sth korea japan 2002, sth africa 2010, middle east 2022, oceania 2034.
believe, it will happen.
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:44am
SideShowBob said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:44am | Report comment
Couldn’t agree more. The WC in Qatar will be region changing, perhaps even with definining issues such as womens rights and freedom of the press/religion/open expression of opposition to the ruling class.
But the question is: will the money stay at the top or siphon down the clear class divides that exist there so that every Qatari has an opportunity to benefit?
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:28am
Jeb said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:28am | Report comment
in response to sideshowbob,
the argument of region changing is interesting. The qatari pitch was a lot about the uniting power of football. Whilst part of me can see the potential for this, the fact is that it is just that – potential. Same with the air-conditioned stadia. It is all about what qatar is gunna do.
On the other hand, Australia actually has freedom of press, religion, women etc, security, track record etc. None of these things are potential.
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:09am
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:09am | Report comment
I personally believe that Qatar should’ve had a joint bid with another Middle-Eastern country like the UAE! Spread the game, spread the love and share the load of the football world cup with another Middle-Eastern nation! That way, the stadia would’ve been spread out a lot better instead of being in a 30km radius from eachother. Had it been a joint bid, and a successful one, it would’ve made a lot more sense…to me…
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:41am
Whites said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:41am | Report comment
No. Not every country can host a world cup on it’s own. There is a certain minimum population and number of major cities. I will be very generous and say that this is a minimum population of 10 million plus 5 cities over 500,000. Qatar does not and never will meet this standard. Qatar should have only ever hosted a world cup as part of a combined Gulf States bid. The only reason Qatar won is because of the corruption of a few old men.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:35am
Jason said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:35am | Report comment
And the reasoning for these numbers you’ve plucked out of the ether?
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:15am
Simmo said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:15am | Report comment
Common sense for anyone who’s attended or even thought through what it takes to host a WC. Only multiple large cities can support the infrastructure required to host a WC.
Even Germany (of all countries) struggled to find enough accomodation for fans. And transport wasn’t crash hot either.
Qatar’s WC will be a joke. Make no mistake.
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:59am
Phutbol said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Simmo, the WC will be fine for accomodation. No one will go…
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:02am
MyLeftFoot said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:02am | Report comment
Look at the positive, it will be a fantastic time zone for Australia.
It’s win win!
They cough up the dollars, and we watch on TV for free!
December 4th 2010 @ 6:49pm
Whites said | December 4th 2010 @ 6:49pm | Report comment
Thank you Simmo. That’s why I used the word generous. A more realistic population for a country to host a world cup is 20m+. Why do you think Spain/Portugal and Netherlands/Belgium had joint bids?
CCM 4:0 Sydney
December 6th 2010 @ 1:48pm
mahony said | December 6th 2010 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
Either you need to spread of big cities to cope with the scale of the thing (and it will be a lot bigger by 2022 than most people reasliswe with a likely shift to 48 finalists) – or you need a ‘blank canvas’ to build a compact ;green field’ city and the associated suporting infrastructure. Qatar is the ‘blank canvas’ approach….
December 4th 2010 @ 4:12am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 4:12am | Report comment
Qatar 2022
Cut the crap.A fictitious win from the very beggining will be an enivitable disaster in the end.Call it getting even.
December 3rd 2010 @ 6:40am
oikee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 6:40am | Report comment
Qatar must really be a amazing country. I am not only impressed by their Air-con Stadiums, but the simple fact that Alcohol is not allowed. How pleasent is that for being able to enjoy the game without all the drunken stupidity for once. Congratulations Qatar, humble thrilled from a fair dinkum aussie.
Now, back to Australia, a country without shame, shameless. I am sickened more and more each day to see this country gloat, knock, winge and mock other countries, not to mention the way we act when we travel overseas. We are a country divided with-in ourselves. We also are void of ideas, and most of the poeple who do make a name for themselves quickly leave the country, only to return for visits.
I think it’s time Australia grew up, and stop trying to compete against other wonderful countries, but started to make our own small minded little nation a better place.
I also would like to congratulate Russia, they have a beautiful country unappreciated by most. They were a world power and i also think they were smart to go up against England with their bid. I have always liked Russia, but somehow with this winning bid i have found myself liking them even more.
Australia, you got 1 vote, i think we were lucky to get one. We have a long way to go before we are ever so humble to win a world cup, on or off the field.
Until we stop competing and start working together, i cant see much change. Not long ago i posted on here that rugby league and soccer in this country should work together, hopefully now this means more than my humble words. I honestly believe all sports need to grow closer, not further apart. Like our cities, it’s our only chance for this country to become united.
Until this happens, resign yourselves to this country being backward and void of ideas.
Again, Qatar, what a refreshing change, to me they are the clever country, not us. Once we can admit this, we have ticked one box, their are many more to tick.
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:16am
Simmo said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Obvious Troll is Obvious
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:27pm
Millster said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:27pm | Report comment
Oikee – this is a brilliant post and I totally agree. I love Australia but I also often ask myself ‘who do we think we are’ both in terms of the positions we think we should have in the world, and the way we look at and talk about other countries with different structures and cultures.
As you know I currently live in Paris, and the more time I spend up here thinking about Australia from the outside, the more I find myself having exactly the same thoughts as you have written above.
Finally I think there needs to be an honest look at values. It is ironic to me that the people coming on here saying that we can now go back to the ‘real Australia’ with its ‘real sports’ are in fact showing the behaviour of kicking their fellow countrymen while they are down. Thats certainly not the kind of ‘real Australia’ that I sign up to or want to return to in a few years.
December 3rd 2010 @ 6:56am
Willy said | December 3rd 2010 @ 6:56am | Report comment
I’ve never been to Qatar mate, but I have visited Dubai in the middle of summer.
My experience was that the heat is so overwhelming that it’s virtually impossible to go outside during the day and, indeed, at night.
The Qatar bid claims that it can regulate the temperature in the stadiums (a massive achievement if possible) but what about outside the stadiums?
What about spectators travelling to and from games, or around the country?
What about teams trying to train.
Honestly… my experiences would suggest that this is virtually impossible, and Qatar 2022 is an abject farce in the making.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:09am
oikee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:09am | Report comment
They might have air-con footpaths by then. I would not put it past them. They are so advanced, have brilliant forward thiking ideas that they put in place, not just talk about.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:29am
Willy said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Maybe Oikee. Maybe.
The designs and concepts for the stadiums are mind-blowing.
But it does bring home the fact that this is a bid based on ideas and concepts, not bricks and mortar.
The stadiums are not built, the cooling technology is untested, the country has never hosted a major sporting event of any description…
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:31am
oikee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:31am | Report comment
Willy, go have alook at the tread i posted below about Qatar, have alook, all projects either in place or already done. Golf courses that water themselves, worldclass buildings, roads winning world awards. This is a country so far advanced, i would put nothing impossible for them to do.
We sit here smugly knocking, while we know nothing. Their “can-do” attitude is amazing. Not stunning, amazing.
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:53pm
Fivehole said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
Yeah but they’re crap at your true passion (league) oiks….
December 3rd 2010 @ 2:54pm
Jeb said | December 3rd 2010 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
@ oikee – a lot of what you call advanced is built by ring-in knowledge from the west. It’s easy to do if you have bucket-loads of money and no democracy to stand in the way of “nation building”. Advanced my ….
I know this is way, way off track but how many immigrants from the sub-continent working for nothing will it take to build these great carbon neutral stadia? Will the world demand better labour conditions for foreign workers in Qatar? Or will pakistanis continue to be slaves on their building sites so they can look advanced?
December 4th 2010 @ 2:19am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 2:19am | Report comment
oikee
you have to experienced it first.don’t believe on what you just saw on t.v.you will be surprised,how backwards the country is.in all aspect of your so called life and living.
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:57am
Big Kev said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:57am | Report comment
advanced? what is advanced about Qatar? The slavery? The treatment of women? What “advancements” we have seen in the world in medicine, science or technology come out of Qatar? Big fat zero
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:00am
MyLeftFoot said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Big Kev
you have it wrong.
We lost the WC bid because we aren’t citizens of the world in the manner that Qatar is.
It is the Qataris we should be aspriing to emulate.
To reach their standards of education. Reach their standards of income distribution. Reach their standards of social policy and awareness. Reach their standards of governance and democratic principles.
It is us who are stuck in the dark ages!
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:06am
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:06am | Report comment
You did well to hide the sarcasm there!
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:49pm
Australian Football said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
You may be right there, if you had a look at Qatar’s final presentation—it was delivered in three languages French, Arabic, and English.. Ours was delivered in one pretentious English model by the Governor General ending up with the Mad Max bogon style of Crocodile Dundee.. We were out sophisticated…
December 4th 2010 @ 2:27am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 2:27am | Report comment
Yourleftfoot.
FYI there’s no human rights yet here in qatar,in fact theres no labor organization here.I know that for a fact, co’z im working here.NO Judicial process and this is not a democratic nor republic state.Common people here doesn’t have the basic human rights, unlike in other civilized society.
December 3rd 2010 @ 3:41pm
JohnB said | December 3rd 2010 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
They were world beaters at albegra and astronomy in that part of the world – admittedly a bit of a while ago and they’ve been in a bit of a quiet patch since.
I didn’t see all of the presentation, but hard to believe (having had her as a lecturer at Uni many years ago) that Quentin Bryce would have been the least bit impressive, and Frank Lowy and Elle Macpherson who I did see were very ordinary indeed. Whether those last minute presentations mean anything is debatable of course.
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:36pm
cruyff turn said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:36pm | Report comment
Great! Let’s go and spend the whole time indoors! Oh joy!
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:37am
andrew said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:37am | Report comment
I have watched plenty of baseball games in Phoenix, in the US. 115 degrees outside, beautiful inside. Much bigger stadium than required for football.
Some places are hot. Not a fatal flaw.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:02am
Big Kev said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:02am | Report comment
the video was an inconsequential 30 minutes of fluff after years of campaigning. Guaranteed it had no relevance to a corrupt and illogical process.
Qatar will not be able to stage a half decent world cup for too many reasons to list. The Asian Games there was pretty ordinary and the World Cup is a bigger event by a factor of 1 million. No chance.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:07am
Fez's are cool said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:07am | Report comment
You do have a point about our “legacy” component. It was farcical that there were so many AFL venues in our bid.
December 6th 2010 @ 1:45pm
mahony said | December 6th 2010 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
I agree. It was the only INHERANT waekness in the bid IMO (apart from FIFA politics). Other issues such as the ‘pitch’ wtc are entirely subjective and I am happy to take the advice of the consultants ahead of the warriors on this websitte.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:05am
AGO74 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Qatar is as representative of the Middle East as Mosman, Vaucluse or Toorak are representative of Australia. Actually, I’m being unfair on the Mosman’s of Australia because at least their homes and developments aren’t built on the back of virtual slave labour imported from impoverished nations.
If you want to give it to the middle east/Arab nation, not a problem, but give it to a deserving nation and its people – Egypt, Morocco, Iran etc.
Qatar 2022 is going to be an ultra rich man’s plaything and Qatar/FIFA has shown that money can indeed buy anything.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:08am
True Tah said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:08am | Report comment
Iran would be a fantastic choice, but unfortunately the political situation would make it unlikely.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:19am
AGO74 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Because we get natural resources from Qatar and they are bedfellows with USA etc, they are ok and we can forget about their abuse of human rights etc and give them a World Cup. Agree though that Iran because they have a loony leader would not work even though its people and its football history (MCG ’97 – aaah!!) would be far more deserving of it than Qatar.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:42am
EP - Rugbywits said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Qatar will be a rich mans plaything of an event.
I watch the Formula 1 abandon some of its tradition to bend to the Arab Emirates money, and while I do admit that expanding and watching the sport move there is interesting after that it seems hollow.
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:44am
TCunbeliever said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:44am | Report comment
Egypt is an African nation…
Africa hosted the 2010 World cup.
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:37am
OneJayBee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:37am | Report comment
I’m not going to sledge Qatar congratulations on the win… I can’t agree with it though.
But please don’t claim – ‘Australia has no football culture’ – check the FIFA rankings and appearances in the world cup. Also the number of foreign born players in each team…..
Having said that I do recall seeing Qatar play West Germany at the SCG in the final of the Youth World Cup in 80 or 81 (Germany won 4-0) where Qatar certainly surprised everyone….not sure if they’ve done anything since…
And as for donating stadiums to poor countries – that has as much credibility as their claim they support womens football (because the association head is ‘now’ considering starting a league…)
Can’t see too many people wanting to go to a dry world cup…. (literally and metaphorically given the climate and alcohol laws…
Not often Aussies and Poms can cry on each others shoulders but two first round eliminations is pretty remarkable!!
Harrummpphhhh…
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:51am
duncan74 said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:51am | Report comment
I understand the touchy feely outcomes and that many reactions are western centric as if the world game is ours alone – your point regards the number of football fans in the middle east is a fair one. I wonder how many fans from arabic countries would have attended a world cup in Australia? What the likely barriers would be to their attendance other than distance and financial costs.
But beyond that I can’t get pass the technical assessment – it will be a significant logistical challenge and whatever the arrangements, they will come at the expense of the fans.
December 3rd 2010 @ 11:50am
apaway said | December 3rd 2010 @ 11:50am | Report comment
Errant rubbish. “The stadiums in Qatar are amazing.” They don’t even exist yet! It is clear to all that Qatar won this bid because they spread the most money around the FIFA Ex-Co, the most corrupt group of execs on the face of the planet.
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:36pm
eric said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:36pm | Report comment
December 3rd 2010 @ 6:05pm
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | December 3rd 2010 @ 6:05pm | Report comment
Why has no one asked the obvious question? How will these third world countries afford the maintenance and upkeep of these new stadia? Answer they wont…..its all pie in the sky. Money talks; Bulls**t walks. Not saying we should have won it, but Qatar over USA, you have to be joking.
December 4th 2010 @ 12:05am
qatar2022isajoke said | December 4th 2010 @ 12:05am | Report comment
Fellow Sports Fans,
Im still in a state of shock over the farcial decision to award the greatest event in the world to a tiny nation that will be an impressive 45 degrees (some days actually get close to 50!!!) for the duration of the tournament.
One aspect that seems to be lost on Qatar winning the ‘vote’ is that the average fan attends a world cup for more reasons than just the football- ie the people (and parties!!!), the culture, scenery, wildlife, visiting different cities etc. I recently went to the SA world cup and a big highlight of the experience was seeing the country and what it has to offer (of which SA has plenty of!!!)
My question-
WHAT THE F%&# IS EVERYONE GOING TO DO WHEN THEY ARENT IN THE AIR CONDITIONED STADIUMS?? WHAT SITES ARE THERE TO VISIT IN QATAR?? AND WILL ANYONE REALLY BE INTERESTED IN SIGHT SEEING IN 45 DEGREE HEAT??
Be serious, i’ve visited the county and there isnt much to do, actually you can see and do everything the place has to offer in about half a day!!! I live in the middle east and the temperature in June/July makes it near impossible to enjoy any outdoor activities. Im sorry, but the average sports fan isnt contempt to sit in a hotel/shopping mall for a month and drink $10 beers in a sterile bar. I wouldnt go if someone game me a free ticket. Shame, FIFA, shame.
December 4th 2010 @ 1:45am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 1:45am | Report comment
Thank god you mentioned it.Thats the point they presented a virtual plan.Let’s be real on this you can’t just stand
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its an insane decision.No matter how small the state of qatar is.You just can’t airconditoned the whole state.Yes they can influence FIFA officials but i doubt if they could do that to climate.Just imagine 40-50C on those months of june and july.
December 4th 2010 @ 6:43pm
Whites said | December 4th 2010 @ 6:43pm | Report comment
And with the global warming caused by Qatar’s oil and gas industry it will be more like 50-60 degrees in 2022.
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:31am
Mark said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:31am | Report comment
Congratulations to Qatar
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:23am
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Congatulations to Qatar for what? Being ultra-rich enabling them to not only buy their votes, but also pay enough that Australia (their biggest threat) do not get any votes in the first round? Thank you to the ONE member who voted honestly!
Or congratulations because their first ever likely world cup appearance will be in 2022…because they get automatic qualification as the host nation?
Yes, congratulations Qatar…and good luck!!
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:39am
andrew g said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Why are people being so negative towards Qatear, they won clearly. We received 1 Vote. Get over it
Australia A league is a Joke
We clearly got thrashed, wanted a whole lot of tax payer money when we had no chance.
A league is a joke, the crowd numbers are disastrous and going backwards.
Why did we really deserve the would cup.
The FFA needs to get its head out the sky and fix the A league.
Stop being bitter it was a vote and we were considered the worst of all applicants. And that is the facts.
Stop being sore loosers!
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:56am
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Mate you are a joke, not the A-League! How can you say “Why are people being so negative towards Qatear” (Qatear?) and then follow up with the A-League being a joke? That’s not negative? You are obviously so football illiterate and ignorant to the fact that FIFA want to grow the game in new and/or strugling frontiers…Australia being one of them, as you said yourself!!
The A-League is alive and well and if you are so concerned about it, why don’t you attend a game or two, you twat? In fact, why do you think Qatar was awarded the 2022 FIFA WC? It’s to grow the game in the region…if football in Australia is struggling don’t you think that exactly why we would need it and why FIFA would’ve/should’ve/could’ve awarded it to us?
I think you are a sore looser and a loser after that last post!
P.S. Your hard-earned tax money used for the bid would’ve been returned to Australia 100 times over if we go the 2022 WC. Just shows how much you know! Please go find that rock you crawled out under from and get back under it until the AFL season kicks off!
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:01pm
andrew g said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
To start with I do not follow AFL. I am not about being football literate it is about being realistic.
RedOrDead do you consider football in Australia is being well managed by the FFA?
Secondly, I do follow the A league, and I consider it a tragedy that the standard of the competition has gone backwards in the last 2 to 3 seasons. The quality of some of the games is pretty bad, it is a bad state of affairs.
Look at the crowds, do you want o sit in a 3/4 empty stadium, to watch a substandard product.
My point is the FFA put so much effort into the World Cup bid when there was very little chance of use ever winning. And this I have said in other posts before the announcement. (see my posts in Whatever the result, kudos to Frank Lowy and co.)
Is not the most important thing to get the top-level game in this country working properly before we go off dreaming about the world cup.
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:11pm
RedOrDead said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:11pm | Report comment
Are you reading what you are writing? Don’t you think the FIFA World Cup would’ve helped the A-League? It would’ve increased the quality and the attendances! Don’t you think that the same enthusiasm and resources we put into the 2022 bid would’ve gone into the A-League straight after winning it? What do you think now will happen that we didn’t get the 2022 WC? All the resources which were used at the A-League’s expense will be returned to the A-League and with more money spent on advertising, attendances and quality of the game should improve.
The only thing I’m concerned about is that now that Townsville aren’t getting their 40,000+ stadium and extra money not going to be spent in the region for the world cup, what’s going to happen to Nth QLD Fury??? If the Fury become defunct, I think it’ll be terrible for the A-League and football in Northern Queensland. I don’t know why they don’t share some home games with Cairns – maybe they’ll go to a few games!?!
December 3rd 2010 @ 2:22pm
Antony_Monteleone said | December 3rd 2010 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
The standard has gone backwards over the last 3-2 seasons? Ummmmm Brisbane??? Have you been mistakening them for an EPL team or what? Seriously, do not talk about what you do not know.
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:44pm
dasilva said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:44pm | Report comment
haha
A-league is a joke
So what makes the Qatar league then?
I’m quite sure the average crowds in the A-league is higher then the qatari league and I’m quite sure the a-league standard is of a higher standard then the Qatari league.
December 3rd 2010 @ 9:56pm
Whites said | December 3rd 2010 @ 9:56pm | Report comment
A Gold Coast United home game has a larger crowd then a round of the Qatari League combined.
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:37am
Arnil mintiro said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:37am | Report comment
jealous!!
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:43am
Roger Rational said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:43am | Report comment
It’s absolutely comical. But to all the rugby and league fans who love writing articles on the Roar about how to “spread the game” – beware: this is what happens when creepy banana republic sleazeballs get their mitts on your sport!
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:51am
amused said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:51am | Report comment
in the words of one infamous australian, “please explain” that comment about rugby league and union posters on this board.
I am unsure as to what you are saying.
Also, I would say this highlights not only the farcical nature of the game on field, but off field as well. to my mind, it’s the equivalent of hosting the AFL/NRL finals in launceston, because they have more political pull than the respective cities where it should be played.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:14am
LK said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:14am | Report comment
“creepy banana republic sleazeballs…” Bwahaha. Love it.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:31am
Klinger said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:31am | Report comment
As a cricket lover your comments resonate with me!!
February 25th 2011 @ 1:05am
Matt Smith said | February 25th 2011 @ 1:05am | Report comment
brilliant comment! Watch out league and union fans! It’s happening in cricket already!
December 3rd 2010 @ 4:48am
Ian Noble said | December 3rd 2010 @ 4:48am | Report comment
Both Russia and Qatar had the poorest rating by the technical committee on the quality of their presentation documents. It surely raises the question why carry out the bid process as Blatter indicated in the early stages of the process that he was keen to move the WC to new parts of the world.
Putin obviously knew which way the cookie was crumbling and stayed away because he knew the deal was done and dusted. Everybody else was wasting their time.Too many vested interests for change at FIFA where money and the brown envelope is alive and kicking.
December 3rd 2010 @ 2:59pm
Jeb said | December 3rd 2010 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
you got to start wondering when putin starts making allegations of corruption. i thought similar to you though that he knew which way it was going and stayed out of the way.
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:02am
Dublin Dave said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:02am | Report comment
As I said elesewhere, there ain’t going to be a lot of people travelling to Qatar. It’s 12 years away. What sort of wonderful viewing “experiences” will the technologists have dreamed up for us by then?
Virtual reality crowds complete with realistic but synthesised chanting!
Viewing pods in a variety of sizes from family size to classroom size to exhibition centre size where you all congregate and watch the live feed piped in over the Internet making you fell like you are really present.
Oderama, Sounderama, urine trickling down the leg orama—-al the wonderful simulations of the “authentic match going experience”
All that and you’ll be able to have a beer as well. Sound mad?
Not half as mad as trying to get a hotel room in Qatar, never mind any liquid refreshment, in the summer of ’22.
Just say no, kids. Stay at home. Or better still: watch something else.
December 3rd 2010 @ 2:17pm
Michael said | December 3rd 2010 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
Love it. You’re right.
December 4th 2010 @ 4:28am
Will-See said | December 4th 2010 @ 4:28am | Report comment
dublin dave
You’ve just nailed it right.
December 3rd 2010 @ 5:02am
mickh said | December 3rd 2010 @ 5:02am | Report comment
“Win with honour, lose with dignity”
Let’s try that and say congratulations to Qatar who will no doubt put on a wonderful show.
Perhaps the marketers in Australia will now see that substance over comic relief will impress more.
With Australia’s falling tourism numbers and campaigns like “Where the bloody hell are you?” and the now infamous cartoon Kangaroo and Hogan show last night, can we now sell ourselves to the world a little differently?
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:01am
oikee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:01am | Report comment
Yes, hopefully now Australia can grow up. Qatar will be fantastic i think. Really the 1st time i would love to go to a football world cup, even Russia would be fun.
Qatar showed the world a new place, Australia showed the world nothing new, we still only have 2 cities, one still running old trams, the other still with nothing to show but a bridge and Opera house built 4 decades ago.
Dont even start me on Matilda, like i said yesterday, the video looked like it was made in 2 weeks, and if you had run that on T/V in Queensland before the bid, it would have been shouted down. It’s a cringeworthy past that most of us like to think we have moved on. But thank you for dragging us back there. You might even ask what am i talking about, in which you wont understand which proves my point, we are divided.
Our nation is divided, and that video has done more harm than good. We are strangers in our own country. We are happy to see others get dragged down, i even heard mockery with England losing their bid, that proves my point again.
December 3rd 2010 @ 8:55am
Roger said | December 3rd 2010 @ 8:55am | Report comment
“Hopefully Australia can grow up now.”
Hopefully you can stop peddling your propaganda. We know what your biased opinion is, and we also know our opinions are biased. But don’t presume that we need to grow up thank you.
We have legitimate points that have not been addressed. Qatar and Russia scored the lowest on the FIFA technical reports, with Australia scoring an almost flawless score. Stop pretending like that didn’t happen.
December 3rd 2010 @ 10:46am
mushi said | December 3rd 2010 @ 10:46am | Report comment
And Austrlaia scored lowest on the actual return.
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:09pm
oikee said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
Sorry Roger, time i grew up, you just stay the same. Fair enough.
December 3rd 2010 @ 12:24pm
Roger said | December 3rd 2010 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Nice how you avoided the point yet again.
December 3rd 2010 @ 7:06am
Big Kev said | December 3rd 2010 @ 7:06am | Report comment
no doubt you have never been to a World Cup – nothing more certain than that Qatar will certainly not “put on a wonderful show”