Get it White! Cameron should replace Ricky
By Geoff Lemon, 16 Dec 2010 Geoff Lemon is a Roar Expert
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As the WACA Test starts today, Ricky Ponting’s captaincy career is at its crossroads. Should England withhold the Ashes from him in Perth, he will become the only Australian captain to fail at this ancient contest for a third time. Should he engineer an unlikely comeback, his status could reach the legendary.
At present though, the latter option looks unlikely.
His team’s fortune has been steadily in decline, matched by his own batting. Were the Ashes being lost despite Ponting heroics, we would make allowance for the quality of his squad. That his twin failures at Adelaide were the key dismissals in that defeat is far more cause for concern.
Ponting has stated a desire to play on for another two years, to embark on another trip to England and make amends. It will require a Tendulkar-like late-innings revival for that to remain a possibility. He will last out this series, and perhaps even the World Cup. But if form and results don’t pick up, even this stodgy selection panel will have to signal the end of the road.
The question is, what would happen from there? Part of the reason there has been little pressure on Ponting – compared, for instance, to the unholy flame-grilling of Steve Waugh during the corresponding tour of 2002-03 – is that there is no successor beating down the door.
Michael Clarke has been the anointed one since soon after his debut, with no apparent qualification aside from being the youngster in a team of veterans. Yet Clarke leaves many people unconvinced.
Not that he’s not visible. Waiting for a bus on Eddy Street outside Sydney’s Central Station a few weeks ago, Michael Clarke was all around me. Apparently he’s taken over the side of every bus shelter in the metropolitan area.
There he was, on the cover of Sport & Style, calling back the 80s in a sports coat and t-shirt. There he was, in a whole series of Bonds ads, with a stick insect model draped over him, or showing off his tatts and his guns.
In a lot of ways it seemed to expose the root of public ambivalence towards Clarke. It may be old-fashioned and unenlightened, but to a lot of Australians a bloke appearing in fashion shoots could be seen to have tickets on himself. The Aston Martins and Lara Bingles of this world don’t help either.
Whether it’s fair or not, there is a perception that this aspect of Clarke’s life affects his life on the field. Cricket is the ultimate team game, and suggestions of self-interest are not received warmly. It is also a game of grit and tenacity, and the question is whether he has enough of either.
Clarke has been 13 innings without a hundred now, the longest stretch of his career aside from the lead-up to his being dropped in 2005. He has made some useful scores in that time, but not quite stamped his authority on games. To be a leader, a batsman must play like one.
Adelaide was the perfect microcosm of the Clarke career.
Here was an opportunity for him to tough out a game, bat a long innings, show leadership, save his team from defeat. Instead he played an eye-catching cameo before falling to a soft dismissal in the final over of the day. His team crumbled quickly.
Clarke is a good enough player to turn all this around, but whether he will is another question. Should his form continue to suffer along with Ponting’s, Australia will find itself in a tenuous position regarding leadership.
Mike Hussey is resurgent, but too advanced in years to be anything but a stop-gap. Simon Katich’s career sadly came to an end with that brave one-legged effort in Adelaide. Shane Watson is hardly the brains of the operation.
The bowlers rotate like rotisserie chooks. Steve Smith and Phil Hughes are as green as the WACA pitch.
S o why not get Cameron White into the team? Blooding him now would provide a reassuring option if and when Ponting finally gives the game away.
In terms of leadership, White is unequalled.
Why he’s not already the national Twenty20 and one-day captain beggars belief. He assumed the captaincy of Victoria at just 20 years of age, and has performed with distinction for seven years, widely praised as an imaginative, cheerful, determined skipper who leads from the front.
In that seven years his sides have reached five Shield finals, winning three; the last four consecutive domestic one-day finals; and all five domestic Twenty20 finals, winning four. It’s an astonishing record.
Yet every time his name comes up, someone declares that White’s batting isn’t up to Test standard. It’s like a John Howard election strategy: repeat the same thing over and over and people start to believe it.
That other mob will make interest rates go up. White doesn’t have the technique. Everyone accepts that it’s true. Then a global financial crisis hits and suddenly your online savings account is paying two percent.
White’s batting is about as destructive as the GFC when he turns it on, which is apparently what makes him unsuitable. Critics point to his average of 41.9 as being below par. It’s actually highly impressive for a guy who started his career purely as a leg spinner at the age of 17, batting at No. 9, and averaging less than 20 in his first three seasons.
As White moved up the order after his 2000 debut, so did his stats. In the 2006/07 Sheffield Shield, he averaged a tick under 40. The next season, just under 50. The next, nearly 58. And last season, 47. In between were prolific 50-plus seasons in country cricket.
Then there was his recent gritty century against the touring English side in the Australia A game in Hobart, when the more fancied challengers failed. There is more to his ability than as a limited-overs power hitter. 16 first-class hundreds don’t speak of a lower-order cudgelman having a lucky flail.
Criticising his Test batting record is also a popular tack, though senseless, given he’s never had the chance to fail.
In White’s four Tests in India in 2008, he was played as a spinner and forced to bat at No. 8. Genuine batsmen generally struggle that low down, distracted by the change in their role and unable to build an innings as they normally might.
Still, White’s seven innings ended up with two not outs, a 44, and a 46, mostly while batting without top-order support. There’s nothing to suggest that the backing of a top-order spot wouldn’t give a far greater yield.
In fact White’s case is reminiscent of Steve Waugh’s.
Waugh started out as a bits and pieces player: handy bowler, handy bat. He took four years to get his first Test hundred, and averaged 36 after 46 Test matches. Yet by hard work and sheer determination, Waugh rose to become the pre-eminent batsman of his day, and despite the handicap of his early career, ended with a Test average of over 51. For several years there, if there was a guy batting for your life, you wanted S.R. Waugh at the crease.
Then there was Andrew Symonds, a one-day smasher with greater potential. Again, the selectors gave him time and top-six backing. Though it tested the patience of some, the investment paid off. Symonds showed the world and himself that he had what it took, as a valuable Test batsman, a useful bowler, and an outstanding fieldsman.
White could be very much in the same mould. His attacking play makes him a potential game-breaker, of the sort Australia has lacked in recent years. His much-maligned bowling could still prove a handy option: 172 first-class wickets at 40 isn’t terrible, and the man dismissed Tendulkar twice in Tests.
And for what it’s worth, he’s also an outstanding slip fieldsman, something missing since Shane Warne and Mark Waugh rode off into the sunset. Ponting is very good, but his athleticism and ability to throw down stumps are wasted in that position.
In every facet of the game, White would bring something to the team, but leadership is the most important. Australia’s future would be looking far more stable if he had already notched a dozen Tests.
At present, Ponting’s legacy looks likely to be that of a great player and an average leader. Depending how the next five days go by, it may be time to see whether a great leader is what Australia needs.
Geoff Lemon is a writer and radio broadcaster. He joined The Roar as an expert columnist in 2010, writes the satirical blog Heathen Scripture, and tweets from @GeoffLemonSport.
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December 16th 2010 @ 5:56am
Fisher Price said | December 16th 2010 @ 5:56am | Report comment
I do agree White’s worth a look at in the No.6 role, and he clearly has leadership credentials. We won’t know if he’s capable of consistent runs (unlike North) at Test level until/unless he’s given the chance.
Don’t agree on Symonds, but White’s a far better batsman as evidenced by his Shield record.
December 16th 2010 @ 6:15am
Lolly said | December 16th 2010 @ 6:15am | Report comment
That Adelaide innings felt like a Clarke special, doing not quite enough as you say, it was such a huge opportunity for him to nail the leadership role that he appears to crave. It didn’t surprise me. I’ve never thought him as someone who can put in a really fine rescue job. You always feel like he could probably nearly do it but not quite.
Of course he did in Edgbaston, but that is the only time I’ve ever thought of him as really toughing it out. I’m probably being harsh on him though.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:04am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:04am | Report comment
Sometimes I wonder if we all are. Then sometimes I think he makes it easy to be harsh on him. It’s a tricky question – mob mentality or an accurate instinctive reaction? – that I still haven’t quite figured out.
December 16th 2010 @ 8:01am
formeropenside said | December 16th 2010 @ 8:01am | Report comment
I don’t think White is a test-class batsman, your arguments to the contrary notwithstanding. Given that, I can’t see how he can captain Australia. I know Victorians are dying to have a Test captain again, but you have the PM, and that has to count for something.
December 16th 2010 @ 8:20am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 8:20am | Report comment
This is exactly the attitude I’m talking about though – a bland statement that he’s not good enough, without anything to actually back that up. As though merely stating something makes it true. The numbers don’t back up that assertion, nor does the history. The only way you can say he’s not Test-class is if he plays a decent number and fails. And while I don’t imagine he’d be the sort of player to slot right in, he’d be a project player in the mould of Waugh and Symonds who could blossom if given enough time to settle. What he would then offer would be an outstanding all-round package.
Also the headline to this piece is misleading. I’m not saying he should unequivocally captain. I’m just saying he should be got into the team, because at present the options are few and far between.
As for Victorian pride, we all know the role of PM comes a distant second to Test skipper.
January 25th 2011 @ 6:15pm
sam said | January 25th 2011 @ 6:15pm | Report comment
i agree totally , there is nothing wrong with white technique , any person with an idea about cricket can tell you that , steve smith and phil hughes on the other hand its amazing they were able to make it in first class cricket both have a series of glarringly obvious flaws. however the most telling sign to me of whites ability is his performance in the one day team in the last england series when promoted to three , from memory he averaged over 50 , there is no doubt in my mind he will captain test cricket in australia , he is a real leader and it will only take a couple of one day scores and the public opinion toward toward him as captain will change
December 17th 2010 @ 9:25am
Tone said | December 17th 2010 @ 9:25am | Report comment
Gillard is an Adelaide girl..she only has an electoral seat down here in Victoria and dons a Western Bulldogs scalf at election time..
Please, dont claim her as one of our own..
December 16th 2010 @ 8:24am
whiteline said | December 16th 2010 @ 8:24am | Report comment
Whilst not being a massive White fan, he cannot be discounted because of his technique. The two newest members of the batting lineup – ie/ Hughes and Smith are hardly classical batsmen and on technique alone would not get a look in.
December 17th 2010 @ 12:47am
Lolly said | December 17th 2010 @ 12:47am | Report comment
And don’t they show it? I like Smith and think he is worth persisting with but neither of them are anywhere near orthodox enough to be long-term successes without some serious help in the technique department if we are talking about them batting in the top 6.
December 16th 2010 @ 9:11am
Vinay Verma said | December 16th 2010 @ 9:11am | Report comment
Geoff,the modern way into the test team is increasingly through the ODI’s. Raina from india and Morgan from England come instantly to mind as does Duminy.
Cam White is an integral part of the ODI side and could be one of the stars of the World cup. Ponting will relinquish the ODI captaincy after the world Cup and thewre is every opportunity for White to further his credentials.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:20am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Yes, and Symonds was another. But it seems worryingly likely that the ODI captaincy will be handed to Clarke as a fait accompli, despite his captaincy CV being blank compared to White’s outstanding credentials.
December 16th 2010 @ 9:26am
Brett McKay said | December 16th 2010 @ 9:26am | Report comment
Geoff, prior to the Ashes starting I had White alongside Ferguson and Khawaja as the guys most likely to pressure Marcus North, and while Smith has trumped them all, I can still see White in the Test side before too long. That he captained Aust A suggests his leadership ability is well known, and on the radar.
Wonder what is the lowest number of Tests someone has played before taking the captaincy??
December 16th 2010 @ 9:57am
DingoBob said | December 16th 2010 @ 9:57am | Report comment
I hate to be “Mr State the Bleeding Obvious” Brett but I believe that the answer would be zero because the first Captain of an Australian test team would not have played any Tests prior to Captaining for the first time.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:12am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Snap. If I may dip into this crazy lingo the kids are using, I think you just got pwned, Brett.
December 16th 2010 @ 11:57am
Brett McKay said | December 16th 2010 @ 11:57am | Report comment
yeah, I’ve just administered the forehead slap guys….
So…..
Apart for the first ever Australian captain (and I’m embarrassed not to know who it was), I wonder what is the lowest number of Tests someone has played before taking the captaincy?? (you know in recent-ish/not ancient times)
December 16th 2010 @ 2:40pm
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 2:40pm | Report comment
Sigh. Guess I’m spending another hour in Statsguru then.
David Gregory was the first-ever Test captain, though the status of Test match was only designated some years later.
December 16th 2010 @ 6:46pm
Rhys said | December 16th 2010 @ 6:46pm | Report comment
I know it’s not an example of an Australian ascending to Test captaincy without much experience, but Graeme Smith is a prime example of recent memory. He was just 22 and had 8 Tests under his belt when he took charge of South Africa.
December 16th 2010 @ 6:51pm
Brett McKay said | December 16th 2010 @ 6:51pm | Report comment
good one Rhys, I knew there was a recent one to fit my question….
December 16th 2010 @ 4:13pm
JohnB said | December 16th 2010 @ 4:13pm | Report comment
Ian Craig would be my guess for Australia, if we discount the 19th century.
December 16th 2010 @ 9:59am
EP - Rugbywits said | December 16th 2010 @ 9:59am | Report comment
I agree with you that he should get a look in.
Was also good to hear your caveat re the title. He definitely shouldn’t be anointed like Clarke.
I think White and Clarke should be in the same side for a year before either on of them is picked.
If they don’t think White is the answer for these ashes dont put him in until the next series, but don’t make either one of Clarke of White capt. Anoint a clear caretaker captain (or maybe leave Ponting in as my immediate choice, Katich is out) and then give them both time to adapt before chosing one for the long term.
And dear God, let it be White who wins out! – Not the soft Clarke.
Also Brett, I agree I think Ferguson, Khawaja and White are more long term prospects to play many tests. I think the Smith selection is based upon the current vein of form he is in and the hope that he is the impact player we have been missing for some time.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:22am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:22am | Report comment
Spot on regarding Smith. Though I do think he’s an exciting prospect for the long-term as well. But there’s something nicely ready-made about him now. And agreed on keeping Clarke and White in a side captained by someone else. That’s why I wish White had been in for some time already, letting them both serve under Ponting. If Ponting goes soon, I suppose Hussey would be ideally placed for a caretaker role, given he probably only has another year at top level, two years at most.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:03am
jameswm said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:03am | Report comment
Geoff – the reason White is not the ODI captain is that Ricky is a good one day captain.
I can’t tell you why he isn’t the T20 captain though. Clarke shouldn’t be within a Steve Waugh slog-sweep of that T20 side, and White is the obvious skipper. The selectors obviously thought it a good chance to give the anointed one some practice as captain, despite a place in the team not being warranted on merit.
As for the tests – sorry but I don’t think White is a good enough batsman. We are not England – we pick the team first, and the captain 2nd. We do not pick a batsman over others who are better qualified, just because we think he might make a good skipper. Without question Khawaja and Ferguson are the best qualified to come in now – on technique and performance. In the Shield this season, White scored 1 and 7 v NSW and 23 and 23no v Qld – I think he missed the others because of the Aust A game and the ODIs in October. He did get a ton in the 2nd innings for Aust A against England, but he was out for 5 in the 1st dig – that’s one first class score over 23 this season in 6 attempts. And he is the one you’d be bringing in as a batsman, when the other two are scoring more consistently and look more likely to do so?
The other point is how you discarded Katich’s credentials. I think White has the 2nd best captaincy credentials of those who could take over from Punter – and Katich is no.1. Katich has a track record of moulding a young team into a winning team, and doing it with toughness, flair and fairness. He is intelligent, fiercely patriotic, and respected in the dressing room – AND, most importantly, warrants selection as a batsman on merit.
I think Katich should be given the job for 18-24 months, during the transition period while Ponting, Hussey and Haddin are phased out of the team. Katich is already in the team (when fit), so you then don’t need to bring a batsman in just so he can captain.
The long term captain can come from Paine, Ferguson, Khawaja and Clarke – whoever in 18-24 months seems the best option.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:26am
The Bush said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:26am | Report comment
I agree with everything you have just said… I believe you could entice Katich to return and stay on as captain for an 18-24 month timeline.
This would then free up the captaincy in both ODI’s and T20′s to be given to a player that makes these teams on merit, unlike Clarke, but would include White, as Clarke would no longer quire the ‘practice’ as he is no longer the successor in waiting.
December 16th 2010 @ 10:38am
Geoff Lemon said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:38am | Report comment
Jameswm, I agree with you about Katich’s qualifications – if you go back a few articles, he was initially my pick to take over from Ponting – but his injury will keep him out for the rest of this series at least, and at nearly 36, his chances of making a comeback are nil. Kat’s Test career is over, sadly – we’ve seen him bat for the last time.
The gist of this article wasn’t that White should be brought in because of his captaincy potential. It’s that he should be brought in as a project player who can offer a lot. As an all-round package – batting, bowling, fielding, and leadership – he offers more than Ferguson or Khawaja. They will inevitably make their way into the team soon anyway as the likes of Ponting and Hussey depart.
In any case, White is just as qualified as either of them. Looking at the last two of three Shield games is hardly very instructive compared to looking at an entire career. As I pointed out above, his numbers stack up.
As for picking the team first and the captain second, explain how Michael Clarke is in charge of the national Twenty20 side when he can’t muster a strike rate over a hundred? And explain why he’s the next in line in ODIs, when the likes of Brad Hodge, David Hussey, and Dan Christian can’t make the side?
December 16th 2010 @ 11:10am
jameswm said | December 16th 2010 @ 11:10am | Report comment
Geoff – no, I don’t think White’s numbers do stack up and I don’t agree he’s as qualified as the other two. It’d be odd to take no account of form this season, in any case.
White’s bowling is almost non-existent. He’s a good fielder and offers character, but so will the others. And I think you have to go with batting ability first.
Well – I meant Australia don’t traditionally pick the captain first. I agree with the absurdity of picking Clarke as T20 captain (as I said), but two wrongs don’t make a right.
December 16th 2010 @ 9:12pm
Oracle said | December 16th 2010 @ 9:12pm | Report comment
This is a great and timely article.
Cameron White has one huge intangible that both Ponting and Clarke cannot be accused of, and that his that Cameron White can actually read the game.
Something that you cannot put a stat on, and that is why he should be captain of the T20 and ODI sides, and he is certainly good enough to play Test cricket and should be fast tracked as our next Captain.
Fair dinkum, he would play Marcus North on a brake, and how many chances did he get?
December 16th 2010 @ 10:24am
MrKistic said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:24am | Report comment
Good piece Geoff. I too am surprised by the automatic reactions I get whenever I mention White’s suitability to the test squad on here. Like you said, and just like the wonderful example formeropenside provided above, there’s a lot of thinking done on White’s test batting credentials without anything at all to justify it.
I was just saying on another article that White was the best performed batsman against England in the Aus A match, not Khwaja, not Ferguson, not Smith and yet for whatever reason he just doesn’t get a look in. When you stack up his recent numbers, they add up, both for Victoria and in the counties. His history adds up. His Aus T20 and ODI numbers add up. But for whatever reason, people don’t rate him. Strange.
Did I mention he’s a Victorian? Don’t need to, everyone seems to remember *that*. It’s even used in arguments against him around here, like because Victoria haven’t had any decent test batsman lately, how could White possibly be one? Ridiculous.
December 16th 2010 @ 11:16am
jameswm said | December 16th 2010 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Mr K sounds like you have a Mexican chip on your shoulder!
White got one score against England, but was he the best performed batsman or was O’Keefe, if you want to take it on one game? White has otherwise barely scored a 1st class run this season, and did fail in the 1st innings of that game.
Can you point out how strong his recent form has been, before this season? Beacuase if it has been as strong as you say, why was Khawaja sent over as the batting replacement last tour?
I wouldn’t have him far off the test team, but Khawaja and Ferguson are almost irresistable forces right now. He’d be close to next, with DHussey and even Shaun Marsh.
By the way I would have Katich as test captain, Ponting as ODI captain and White as T20 captain! Three captains!
December 16th 2010 @ 11:36am
MrKistic said | December 16th 2010 @ 11:36am | Report comment
A corn chip then? In that case it’s only a little one but in fairness, I was just pointing out that commenters have used his Victorian-ness as a reason for not being selected, which is crazy.
I totally agree that his Shield form this season hasn’t been awesome, but nor has Ferguson’s. I’m not sure why Ferguson is given so much attention to be honest but there it is. Perhaps because his one day form is strong. For mine, Khawaja is by far and away next in line. Like you say though, White shouldn’t be that far away. As a long term player, you wouldn’t do badly by selecting him at some stage soon.
Poor Hussey, D. His cards are clearly already marked. T20? Tick. That’s it. Of course Hodgey came out in his favour again t’other day which won’t help his cause.
I also mentioned in my other comment the oddness of not picking O’Keefe when he did so well in the Aus A game. They’re currently obsessed with lefties, thus the Beer selection, so why not pick a good one? At least it means he won’t get burned and may have time to get better established before being picked.
And three capn’s doesn’t sound like so bad an idea at all.
December 17th 2010 @ 10:02am
jameswm said | December 17th 2010 @ 10:02am | Report comment
yes I was thinking a corn chip too!
I can’t work out that choice of Beer. SOK’s problem is he couldn’t be fitted into the NSW Shield side that played that week. He has the record, albeit in only 10 games, that makes you sit up and take notice. He’s our first spinner in ages to come into 1st class cricket and do well immediately.
Agree DHussey is unlucky – he can play all forms of the game.
As for Ferguson’s Shield form this season, he has scored:
v WA – 129
v Tas – 12 and 36
v NSW – 14 and 131
I think Ferguson has done exceptionally well for Australia in the one-dayers. He has shown he is of int’l class, and that he has the head for it. A lot of the time he’s been digging us out of a hole.
I’d happily rank Khawaja 1 and Ferguson 2 in terms of the next-in-lines.
I wouldn’t have had Hughes close – but the selectors were under the mistaken impression that you need to select a specialist opener. They didn’t when Watson, katick and Langer were picked to open.
And has Hilditch really said he wants his contract extended? He must live in a bubble.
December 17th 2010 @ 11:15am
MrKistic said | December 17th 2010 @ 11:15am | Report comment
Fair enough, I think I missed one of Ferguson’s centuries when looking at his numbers this season. It looks a bit better that way and agreed, he’s shown he can cut it in the ODIs, much like White.
Hilditch does live in a bubble. The giant CA bubble which protects the lot of them from the real world. I’ve heard that the only thing that can pop it is an Ashes series loss at home. Lots of long term pain for those of us that work with a Pom (oh man), but long term it’s the only thing that may save us so I’ll happily suck it up for the greater good.
December 17th 2010 @ 9:39pm
Geoff Lemon said | December 17th 2010 @ 9:39pm | Report comment
It’ll be a happy day when Hilditch gets back to chasing ambulances and leaves the cricketers alone. That home loss may indeed be the only thing that gets through. We’ve had twenty-odd years of wins, so we can wear one reversal, I’m sure. Brave of you to put your hand up to wear it, though.
Good bowling today, though it’ll be interesting to see if they can back it up in the second dig. The batting is overdue for a clean-out though. Good that North is gone at last, but it’s Ponting and Clarke who keep putting the pressure on the others with terrible shot selection. Hussey can’t keep digging them out of holes forever…
December 16th 2010 @ 10:33am
jay said | December 16th 2010 @ 10:33am | Report comment
white shouldnt be captain the same reason tubby got the axe.
wasnt a good enough batsman despite being a good captain. to be honest ricky should of been dropped a captain after the first ashes loss.
i would like to see katich as captain or watson (but as a 6). i think australia need to get its bloody balance of the team back in order. its been stuffed since andrew simons was picked over katich as an all rounder. get watson down the order as an all rounder. get 2 openers who can score big centuries and the pick the best batsmen and bowlers in the country who achieve a purpose. weather taking wickets, bowling to a feild or building pressure. this jack of all trades stuff is what makes New zealand crap at test cricket…. cant post consistantly big scores and take enough wickets.
ps. if johnsons in the team give him the new ball while its swinging. we need to stop protecting him and get him as a strike bowler or get rid of him. his a confidence bowler and if get wickets he get a truck load. lets give him the best chance possible instead of a dead rock latter.