With AFL scandals, don’t hate the player or the game
By Michael DiFabrizio, 12 Jan 2011 Michael DiFabrizio is a Roar Expert
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Brendan Fevola of Brisbane looks on after a loss in the AFL Round 12 match between the Western Bulldogs and the Brisbane Lions at Etihad Stadium, Melbourne. Slattery Images
On the back of a certain nude photo scandal and yet another Brendan Fevola incident, not to mention countless other big stories last year, it’s easy right now to attack the AFL and other bodies that oversee players for “not doing enough”. Surely they can do more to educate and guide players, you may say.
But there are two simple truths that don’t get much of a mention whenever a big story breaks.
Firstly, it’s that the players are indeed given plenty of education and guidance and warnings and advice. And secondly, before you start thinking indiscretions are all just the fault of the player involved, it’s that there are many, many potential pitfalls not just for AFL footballers, but for young men in general.
I spent Monday at the AFL Players Association induction, a camp which wrapped up yesterday and involved all the first-time draftees from every club.
While a lot of media reporting on the day focussed on the AFLPA schooling the new boys on the dangers of social media, in truth the focus was on the myriad of other issues that can confront players. Like drugs, alcohol and even road safety.
Nathan Thompson got on stage to talk about his battle with depression. Mark Eustice talked about his post-career battle with drug use.
Thompson delivered one of the more memorable quotes of the day when he said, “The only way you can control what people say about you is with your actions.”
The education continued on the second day of the camp, run largely by the AFL, where there were sessions on anti-doping, illicit drugs and gambling, and respect and responsibility.
There was a lot for the kids to take in, but it’s important to keep in mind this was just one event. When you factor in all that the AFL, individual clubs and AFLPA staff that visit every club do, it’s obvious that the game does not rest on its laurels when it comes to the welfare of its players.
It’s easy to blame an entire code for the misdemeanours of a select few of its players. But maybe it isn’t always fair to do so.
Likewise, it’s easy to put all the blame on the players, or join the “footballers need to grow up” crowd. But maybe this isn’t so wise, either.
Issues with gambling, drugs, alcohol and the like catch out many young men, but for whatever reason, our standards for AFL footballers are higher. It’s almost as if the fact they are in the so-called “public eye” means they should be perfect, upstanding citizens 100 per cent of the time. Which is crazy.
That’s not to say players don’t need to take responsibility for their own actions. Or that the clubs, the league or even the AFLPA shouldn’t be held accountable.
It’s just that sometimes, more appreciation of what is being done and a greater understanding of the risks that exist are needed. The urge to heap all the blame on either the code or the player, meanwhile, doesn’t seem so smart.
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January 12th 2011 @ 6:18am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 12th 2011 @ 6:18am | Report comment
Of course you are right 100%. It is a balanced way to look at it.
However as a NRL fan it is difficult to be sympathetic to the AFL players if the NRL players and community had received the same treatment suggested here during their 2009 season. They weren’t and plenty of the criticism came from the AFL media and fans about rugby league culture.
It’s noticeable that despite the AFL atrocities of recent months the reverse has not happened and there has been no attack on AFL culture by rugby league media and most fans.
January 12th 2011 @ 6:52am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 6:52am | Report comment
Many NRL fans are dining out on this, they’re right at the front of the queue trying to stick the boot in. NRL fans bleat about how their code is pillored but are very quick to take a stick to the AFL. They are desperate to mud rake as much as possible.
The labelling of AFL ‘atrocities’ is a prime example.
Worry about your own code.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:28am
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:28am | Report comment
Wow Redb another insightful posting. You are clearly living in La La land if you think the exposure has been anywhere close to that of the NRL regarding player misdemeanours.
Unfortunately people like yourself Redb were first to run the line in the opposite direction at the NRL so I find it highly amusing that you would sit here and defend your code.
Oh and Redb, a smiley face for you
January 12th 2011 @ 8:42am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:42am | Report comment
No doubt Brendan your one of the NRL fans who cant see the double standard of whining about ‘scandal’ exposure then happy to fan the flames with other codes. your a dolt!
January 12th 2011 @ 9:41am
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:41am | Report comment
As usual wrong again. Happy to see all codes prosper mate!
Do you want the NRL to prosper?? Me thinks not!
January 12th 2011 @ 9:49am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:49am | Report comment
is that what the article is about? “wanting the NRL to prosper” sorry wrong tab.
If your happy to see the AFL prosper then you would agree with the article.
January 12th 2011 @ 9:57pm
db swannie said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:57pm | Report comment
Come on RedB ..Show me where the hush money was paid in the NRL…
You said it happened ….Source please.
January 13th 2011 @ 10:12am
captain nemo said | January 13th 2011 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Redb, you didn’t answer Brendans question, are you happy for rugby league to prosper???? this time no smiley face
January 13th 2011 @ 10:15am
MyLeftFoot said | January 13th 2011 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Nothing would make AFL fans happier than to see the NRL prosper.
January 12th 2011 @ 9:46am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:46am | Report comment
You’ve mentioned NRL fans Redb. I referred to NRL media.
Please cite one link to a NRL story bagging the AFL over their 2010 season of atrocities.
Something comparable to Martin Flanagan’s piece here will do fine.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/the-global-shame-of-footballers-dog-prank-20101112-17r2z.html
January 12th 2011 @ 10:36am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 10:36am | Report comment
Straight out of the handbook.
You really want to equate what Monaghan did with say Gilbert?
Do you want to go there?
Do you think NRL players past or present have not had young girls as groupies and have never got a girl in trouble before? Please! The NRL media I bet have been privy to some stories.
Lets just say the dog act was perhaps on another scale.
NRL media are too busy trying to drum up other stuff about the AFL. if you want a tit or tat, show me any AFL journo who has expunged more ink on the NRL than Roy Masters has on the AFL.
January 12th 2011 @ 11:31am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 12th 2011 @ 11:31am | Report comment
“You really want to equate what Monaghan did with say Gilbert?”
Yes. I do. Mongaghan created a prank meant to given the impression (but not actually doing) that he was engaging with a dog.
The St Kilda photo shows three adult men photographed by a fourth man in a scene that most people in society find difficult to accept as normal decent behaviour.
Both photos are equally vile.
January 12th 2011 @ 11:53am
db swannie said | January 12th 2011 @ 11:53am | Report comment
Redb ..Did Monaghan have to pay the dog $200,000 hush money..
He got what he deserved..he is out of the NRL.
What happened to Mr hush money…nothing…..oh wait on the AFL gave him an award for outstanding service….
What a great human being.& i will say it again..the difference in punishments by the respective codes is about af far apart as an AFL star can fumble a ball.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:03pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:03pm | Report comment
db swannie,
you cant even BS well.
So the NSWRL or NRL has never paid ‘hush’ money as you call it to a female in its history.
waiting… this should be good.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:07pm
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Redb: “So the NSWRL or NRL has never paid ‘hush’ money as you call it to a female in its history.”
Are serious? There’s never been an inkling of that having happened. Where’s YOUR evidence Redb???
January 12th 2011 @ 12:17pm
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
Warning Redb other people opinions are on the internet and you cant tell me where to post them! Dont get so upset everytime someone doesnt agree with you. How old are you seriously?
January 12th 2011 @ 12:28pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
by the looks of your posts, several years older.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:31pm
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Wow keyboard warrior! Im so impressed!
January 12th 2011 @ 12:40pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
Do you feel threatened?
January 12th 2011 @ 12:43pm
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
By what exactly?
January 12th 2011 @ 4:31pm
DB said | January 12th 2011 @ 4:31pm | Report comment
And Brendan you clearly live in Qld or NSW if you think that the exposure of NRL players bad behaviour is anywhere that near of an AFL player in Melbourne
January 12th 2011 @ 4:36pm
DB said | January 12th 2011 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
So posing nude for a photo is the same as shoving your penis in a dogs mouth.
Okay
January 12th 2011 @ 4:54pm
Clipper said | January 12th 2011 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
Yes, I think in Dantes nine levels of hell, bestiality would be on one of the lower levels
January 12th 2011 @ 5:49pm
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 5:49pm | Report comment
Well said DB. I wasnt bragging by the way…
January 13th 2011 @ 10:10am
captain nemo said | January 13th 2011 @ 10:10am | Report comment
let me post a smiley face too Brendan
and again
feels good
January 12th 2011 @ 8:26pm
John Ryan said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
Maybe you should try the same mate
January 12th 2011 @ 6:40am
Sammy22 said | January 12th 2011 @ 6:40am | Report comment
Dosen’t matter what football or sporting code, Business or community club, wherever a culture exists for guys in their twenties to take 16 year old school girl bounce her around as a sex toy till she is pregnant then toss her away …. its not acceptable.
She then releases photos of these guys (taken by the father of the pregnancy) of fellow players playing with themselves as a reaction to the way she was treated.
The photos are the side story and the curtain the code and players chose to hide behind. ( Apparently though these photos of players seemingly enjoying themselves are offensive yet a year ago naked shots of an ex-girlfriend in a shower obviously not wanting the attention were just a laugh)
“When you factor in all that the AFL, individual clubs and AFLPA staff that visit every club do, it’s obvious that the game does not rest on its laurels when it comes to the welfare of its players.”
And here in lies the problem, its all about the welfare of the players and the game unfortunately not the school girls or the general public. Its very hard to be appreciative of what’s being done when its very obviously not helping the community.
January 12th 2011 @ 7:02am
punter said | January 12th 2011 @ 7:02am | Report comment
I totally agree. This is not having a go at the AFL or the AFL players. This happens in every football code, every sport around the world where the players have a high profile. This sort of culture where women are degraded by sports stars is just not acceptable. It is not acceptable in society, so why should it be acceptable because you have some fame playing sport.
January 12th 2011 @ 7:16am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 7:16am | Report comment
Its not just sport either. Anywhere groupies exist, every rock band you can think of, many high profile TV personalities, even Elvis Presley who started ‘dating’ Priscilla when she was 14.
Having been on the sidelines of the TV industry for awhile people would be shocked at how groupie type girls/women throw themselves at so called celebrities. Some take advantage some dont. There are however very few without the odd skeleton.
This does not condone the actions of the individual. They have to take responsibility.
January 12th 2011 @ 7:55am
punter said | January 12th 2011 @ 7:55am | Report comment
Yes, I suppose it very difficult for us mere mortals to judge a young fit 22 year old with adoring fans on how he should or should not act in situations like this.
Shosh, never bag the ‘King’.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:17am
Richard said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:17am | Report comment
Yes and I think it’s important to keep it all in perspective. When young women offer sex to their heroes, who may be in sport, politics, entertainment or business, they are free to do so. It is no judgement on them for wanting to experience the excitement of a sexual encounter with a powerful personality. And if young men who have sex waived in their faces succumb to it, then providing it is consensual, there is no problem with that either. However powerful people, including sporting personalities, do need to ask themselves whether they would be proud if they saw their photos on the front page of The Age the following morning reporting the event. If the answer to the latter is “no”, then they are better advised to seek out a more meaningful relationship. Hard to do, though, isn’t it. You guys were young once too, so you will know what I mean. But if you’re serious about a role in the public eye, you’ve got to accept that you automatically get the blame when things go pear shaped.
January 18th 2011 @ 4:07pm
Parkridge Panther said | January 18th 2011 @ 4:07pm | Report comment
Well said Sammy.
What worries me is how the AFL try to sweep things under the carpet and fails do deal with the problems. Joel Monaghan, Canberra Raiders, did one silly thing (albeit disgusting to many) but even though it was only simulated (play acting he was immedialtly sacked and de regiseted from the NRL.
Here in Brisbane we have Fevolva always in the news for all the wrong reasons and Lions players assaulting women and the action from the AFL is to protect the players. St Kilda is a case where there is a culture of abuse towards women and the AFL standsbye and allows this to happen.
All football codes have their incidents, some minor and some serious. The mesaure of a club and a code is how they approach the issues and resolve issues and prevent the same issue arising again. It appears that the AFL have a code of tolerance and protection of its players as to be the paramount criterion.
January 12th 2011 @ 6:54am
Ken said | January 12th 2011 @ 6:54am | Report comment
Good article and a reasonable point of view. As a League supporter though who has seen his sport trashed much harder in the media for these types of incidents it’s hard to have much sympathy for the bit of flack the AFL is getting.
January 12th 2011 @ 6:59am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 6:59am | Report comment
From all reports the AFL induction program for draftees is excellent. I bet it never happened even 10 years ago. The AFL should be congratulated on its efforts to educate on life outside of football. There are many quality football people behind the scenes and within the AFLPA.
Haters are gunna hate, off field incidents merely given them an excuse to vent, they were never fans anway. No great loss.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:44am
Michael DiFabrizio said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:44am | Report comment
Redb, you are correct, I was told that the induction has been happening for the last 8 or so years.
January 12th 2011 @ 7:46am
Hooplah said | January 12th 2011 @ 7:46am | Report comment
Fev has now learn’t his lesson. Bring him back to Carlton. It will bring a tear to all football lovers eyes.
Not as if he stole the crown jewels or slept with a 17 year old girl. Who has not had a few too many and lashed out at a copper? Only you can cast the first stone. Why do you think the plod get paid so much? They can handle it!
January 12th 2011 @ 8:01am
Mark Young said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:01am | Report comment
The inductee camp is a very good idea and may work very well, only time will tell.
The reason I am particularly upset with the AFL and the entire St Kilda incident is that they haven’t cleared up if the players met the girl at school when they were invited in. It is just totally inappropriate to make an initial contact with a sexual partner while you are an adult they are a school child. Schools need to be confident that if they invite footballers from any code into their grounds, it won’t end up with one of the kids getting pregnant.
During my many years working in School Camps, we had it drilled into our heads literally hundreds of time, that any sort of physical or romatic relationship with a young person cannot have its roots with them being a schoolkid and us being an adult. Regardless of how young you are, how forward they are, how old they look etc etc etc.
The AFL needs to clear that up and then kick out of the game anyone who crosses this line.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:53am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:53am | Report comment
The school visit is disputed.
I would agree you in this case if the girl’s story is to be beleived. The girl also said she took the photos of Reiwoldt,etc. She lied. I’m not taking sides here, as one party says they met post Sydney game, the other suggested otherwise. This is a disputed fact and should be treated as such.
I agree if any player crossed that line they should be booted.
I’ve said from the outset Sam Gilbert has a lot to answer for on many levels, no matter how they met.
January 12th 2011 @ 9:50am
MyLeftFoot said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Whether the two Saints players ended up meeting her for the first time after a game in Sydney, or not, doesn’t matter to me, it was inappropriate behaviour for two players in their 20s to take advantage of a 16 year old school girl.
It’s now clear to me that the club, and/or AFL, should have come down heavy on the two players involved, regardless of whether what happened was legal or not.
On top of that, one of the players has been involved in a massive breach of trust that has brought embarassment to his captain and club, and I honestly can’t see how he can remain at the club.
Either way, various incidents over the past two years indicate that St Kilda as a club has plenty of issues, and they need to get on top of that.
January 12th 2011 @ 10:04am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 10:04am | Report comment
MLF,
Gilbert’s position at the Saints has to be untenable. He has let everyone down.
January 12th 2011 @ 1:10pm
Richard said | January 12th 2011 @ 1:10pm | Report comment
I listened to Luke Ball speak at the CFC’s Copeland Trophy night last year, in which he came fifth. He is an impressive young man, a credit to himself and to his sport. He is a real leader and one I’m proud to say is a Collingwood player. Of course he was a St Kilda player until a year or so ago and he still obviously has great loyalty to the Saints. Fair enough. There are some tremendous young men over at Moorabbin, not least of all Nick Riewoldt the current captain. If I was a Saints supporter, the biggest issue in the last few years, imo, is how the hell they let a player of the quality of Luke Ball just walk out the door.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:06am
Richard said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:06am | Report comment
You are right. The occasional scandal in the AFL is not surprising, given that you are dealing with young men who have a penchant in the community for reckless behaviour. The surprising thing is that the scandals are so few. That is a testimony to the education and preparation given to the players, as well as to the quality of young men selected for participation at the highest level these days. No-one can rest on their laurels, but the AFL is to be congratulated for doing a fine job in this area in my view.
January 12th 2011 @ 8:16am
db swannie said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:16am | Report comment
As a RL fan ,it is the blantant difference in treatment by the media that upsets people .especially when the NRL at least punishes the idiots who do wrong.
I have given examples before of the differences in treatment by the repective codes …
I would also like to add with regards to the ST KIlda scandal..
What good are any of these clinics/classes etc for young players if when players are caught BREACHING the AFL’s own code of conduct(with regards to a person un/18 ).they are cleared of any wrongdoing..
You will never change the behaviour of people if you do not punish them……sends a clear message that they can break the rules but that is OK.
With the AFL its all about the image,,,,,,showing the public what a female/family friendly game it is,how they educate their players,etc,when in reality the most important thing is the IMAGE.everthing else is window dressing…
January 12th 2011 @ 9:49am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:49am | Report comment
If it happens in rugby league it is evidence of a vile culture at the very core of the code.
If it happens in AFL it is evidence of the actions of the individual and merely just one example of what happens with young men across the globe.
January 12th 2011 @ 10:55am
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Yes the persecution complex.
Why is rugby league persecuted? Was it a culture problem? Was it of the NRL’s own doing that it destroyed its image?, smoke, fire, lack of action in early days by clubs, etc.
The NRL went from doing nothing about off field incidents, 2004 Coffs harbour did a lot of harm, to the 2009 calamitous year when major sponsors were going to walk, to 2010 where it had a less scandal ridden year but that does not wipe the image away so quickly. That may take years of scandal free effort.
The AFL is not the demon you NRL fans like to betray it as, each time you mud rake about the AFL it only betrays a persecution complex of RL’s own making.
Over riding all that I’ll give you some reasons why I think RL is perhaps an easy target:
1. Working class game followed by working class people (generally). Rugby union in a class war has controlled the high end of town (Sydney), the media, opinion makers, the ‘better’ class.
2. Most RL players can barely string a sentence together. They look like no neck big blokes with no brains. Thus an easy target due to their appearance.
The AFL has never had a class war, is followed by all strata in society in Melbourne. Has its share of drongos, but many players can speak quite well, built like ‘normal’ athletes,etc.
Past Carlton players include the current AFL Chairman and Rhodes Scholar Mike Fitzpatrick, but also Brendan Fevola. Go figure.
January 12th 2011 @ 11:39am
The Answer said | January 12th 2011 @ 11:39am | Report comment
“Most RL players can barely string a sentence together”.
One of your best Redb. You must have spent hours and hours of your life watching interviews with rugby league players or speaking with them personally to make such a statement.
“They look like no neck big blokes with no brains”
Sorry Redb, we’ll get them all to trim down and wear tight shorts.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:09pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
truth hurts.
January 12th 2011 @ 2:15pm
Chris K said | January 12th 2011 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
Especially when it comes to the Bombers performances in recent years
January 12th 2011 @ 5:26pm
The Answer said | January 12th 2011 @ 5:26pm | Report comment
What’s the truth? The bit about how sad your life is?
January 12th 2011 @ 12:07pm
Bruce said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
A comment of mind numbing banality.
January 12th 2011 @ 2:56pm
clipper said | January 12th 2011 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
Redb, what you say in point 1 is correct, but just because someone is not working class, does not necessarily make them a better class. Point two has an element of truth in in, but you shouldn’t have a go at what they look like – not everyone can be a model!
January 12th 2011 @ 8:34pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 8:34pm | Report comment
Clipper,
the ‘better’ class was emphasised.
Re point 2 exactly, I was talking about perception.
January 13th 2011 @ 5:10am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 13th 2011 @ 5:10am | Report comment
Rubbish Redb. You never said anything about pereception. You are trying to backtrack. You wrote “Most RL players can barely string a sentence together. They look like no neck big blokes with no brains. Thus an easy target due to their appearance.”
January 13th 2011 @ 7:16am
Redb said | January 13th 2011 @ 7:16am | Report comment
That is my perception of how RL players are perceived by the general public and by the looks of it according to Clipper, there is some truth in it.
Dan, your so busy feeling persecuted your not able to look objectively at the comment and realise there is some truth in that perception.
January 14th 2011 @ 12:30pm
Clipper said | January 14th 2011 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Redb, I just wanted to highlight how hard it is to emphasise how, generally speaking, League is very working class without sounding a bit pretentious or snobby.
January 13th 2011 @ 10:20am
captain nemo said | January 13th 2011 @ 10:20am | Report comment
Redb says “2. Most RL players can barely string a sentence together. They look like no neck big blokes with no brains. Thus an easy target due to their appearance.”
Actually mate, most pro mungo players are alot trimmer than a forward pack of rugby players. Sounds to me like your description would better fit a Springbok or Welsh front row, and for being not able to string a few sentences together, these guys are probably studying medcine or law at Cambridge or Edinburugh uni, but hey, they look stupid. You need to travel and stop being preached to by the brainwashed!!! There is a big world outside of Victoria Redb
January 13th 2011 @ 11:24am
Redb said | January 13th 2011 @ 11:24am | Report comment
You need to get over your hangup with the AFL and Victoria.
I bet I’ve been to more towns in NSW and QLD than you. Shall we do a Slim Dusty, better get your Shell Road Atlas out.
January 13th 2011 @ 11:28am
Dan of Sans Souci said | January 13th 2011 @ 11:28am | Report comment
Merely responding and contradicting one of your posted falsehoods Redb doesn’t make one guilty of having a hang up.
January 14th 2011 @ 8:14am
captain nemo said | January 14th 2011 @ 8:14am | Report comment
not getting into contest Redb but my few years at Hazeltons before coming to Honky “got me around” the bush plenty mate.
January 14th 2011 @ 8:52am
Redb said | January 14th 2011 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Good move Nemo, I wouldn’t get into a contest on that score.
January 12th 2011 @ 10:46am
OzFootballSherrin said | January 12th 2011 @ 10:46am | Report comment
You are aware that the contact was not made at the school clinic.
That was a mis representation on the very first day that was clarified and no one else is going on about it.
btw – if you were in Melbourne you’d be aware at least that if it happens at StKilda it is evidence of a vile culture at the very core of the club.
January 12th 2011 @ 10:23am
OzFootballSherrin said | January 12th 2011 @ 10:23am | Report comment
In NSW, the Daily Telegraph goes real hard at the NRL, and in Vic the Herald Sun goes real hard at the AFL. There’s been actually pretty little coverage in the paper editions of the H-S about NRL players in recent years. On line can be very different.
However, I heard a call from a fellow from Bairnsdale to a radio sports program wondering why there was no AFL story in the Herald Sun on Monday – - – well, not in the sports section, there was about Fev on page 2, and the StKilda story had re-ignited and would capture the Tuesday edition.
The issue I reckon isn’t nearly as much about fans of other codes sticking the boot in – - the regulars on the forums will do that no matter what – - however, I’m more concerned with the ‘local’ newspapers and their sensationalist reporting of these stories, giving oxygen where it shouldn’t whilst the natural course of justice is compromised. And the ability of a loose cannon (or driven individual) with a grudge (valid or otherwise) to impart damage to reputations as broadly as can be done these days is scary.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:24pm
Brendan said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Thats a good balanced view of whats been happening over the recent years.. Its more about selling papers then anything else. The day it blew my mind is when I started reading newspapers & online articles that quoted online forums as its main lead source. There is no integrity in the media anymore…
January 12th 2011 @ 11:10am
db swannie said | January 12th 2011 @ 11:10am | Report comment
What good is a code of conduct when the players can breach it & no punishment is handed down.
At least Gallop for all his failings has the gonads to punish players.
Whereas Vlad would not do that with the St Kilda boys,because that might damage The Image .
it would be an admittance that the angels who play this sport have done wrong.
January 12th 2011 @ 12:33pm
Redb said | January 12th 2011 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
No Gallop has been forced by sponsor pressure on a hair trigger from 2009 to act expunge any player that threatens its sponsorship arrangements. Mind you knowing the player can come back to the NRL after a 2 year stint in the ESL or Euro rugby makes it a lot easier to shoot first ask questions later.
Gallop is image managing as well, dont worry about that.
January 12th 2011 @ 9:17pm
Crosscoder said | January 12th 2011 @ 9:17pm | Report comment
Nonsense.
Players have been given the heave ho at Cronulla ,before any so called sponsor pressure to Gallop.Gallop was under pressure from other incidents.Aussie John was one and he eventually pulled the plug as his organisation was involved in SOO. L & G pulled the plug at Cronulla no doubt due to the M johns incident which occurred for heavens sake in 2003.
Yet you can get to coach a footy side ,after a club incident,captured on CCTV .
How many times does it take for a sponsor to pull the plug at the Lions.There have been incidents alleged re Fevola ,then the incident with the skynews guy,then Fevola again.Pressure from A.D. perhaps.The guy gets recycled more than a pet bottle.
The guy has had more chances ,than anyone I know with his record.Was there any sponsorship pressure when the dramas happened at the Weagles.
sky New s,ch10 and ch 7 sydney took a day before they were ‘brave’enough to announce the alleged incident involving the sky news guy and a couple of Lions players.its supposed to be a national game,therefore incidents as such should be reported nationally.
I find your comments re the NRL and nothing being done bemusing,when Elliot made some serious accusations re his time at Carlton,and the term hush money cropped out.Sort of died a quick death with his worship not wanting to go on with it.Ï believe even Caroline Wilson wanted to delve deeper.
ch2 4corners had no problems with the Johns incident,but appeared to steer clear of the Carlton allegations.hmmmm !
Lets not forget Dipper keeping his job. after his less than bright efforts.
I suggest no one gets on the holier than thou bandwaggon from either code.The incidents are due to a minority of players repeat minority.the overwhelming majority do the right thing,get on with playing,studying for uni or trades or other courses,as happens in the NRL(which is an under 20 requirement)
I think what was summed up by a writer in the Australian “Whenever there is a drama in the AFL ,all the protagonists
and main players rally together for the good of the code,arguing that one isolated incident should not be allowed to bismirch this great game.
While the blood letting runs unchecked in Sydney,in Melbourne everyone is holding hands and saying its time to move on,often before the fight was even started..
Maybe the NRL should learn something.
January 13th 2011 @ 7:36am
Redb said | January 13th 2011 @ 7:36am | Report comment
Sorry CC, but its not nonsense. Sponsor pressure at times of off-field incidents is immense.
It’s also not nonsense that the NRL went very close in 2009 to losing major sponsorship and that Gallop was in crisis. At a post season meeting he even brought in an NFL expect to talk about how to deal with off field incidents as the code was on the brink of losing big sponsors.
I beleive the Lions have come close to losing sponsors over Fevola. One of the majors threatened to walk when it was alleged he flashed himself at some woman.
Prior to 2009, the NRL and clubs record was appalling in dealing with these issues. They have had a major wake up call but it will take a few years of a clean record to come back from the crisis trigger position.
The writer in the Australian is not far off the mark. As I’ve commented in other posts, the AFL does not have not a class divide it has the big end & small end of town as support in Melbourne. Most people know the majority of AFL players are good people.
Like the NFL, EPL the AFL as a high profile sport will have individual players doing stupid things.
Sydney media are more tabloid like than Melbourne. This is fact. You only need to look at the DT compared to the HS to see that. The NRL is the victim of the tabloid Sydne media.
That said, the Melbourne papers cover every aspect of the AFL good and bad. The Wayne Carey scandal a few years ago had like a 18 page special section. I think it even bumped a major world story off the front page, which was considered ove the top.
Just because the Melbourne media do not predict the death of footy every time an off field incident occurs does not mean its covering things up! Nor should it follow the Sydney media’s lead and treatment of the NRL.