Plenty of interest in A-League Grand Final
Roar Guru By Moonface, 10 Mar 2011 Moonface is a Roar Guru
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I lost a good friend recently. No, not to cancer, but to the United Kingdom. We hadn’t known each other for very long, but we had become the best of mates.
He had moved down from Brisbane and I’d moved up from Melbourne to live on the magnificent North Coast of NSW. We got to know each other from our kids playing football together in one of the local teams.
We made lots of friends through the football club, it’s a great bunch of people, mainly volunteers who do a great job or running the teams, especially when you have to travel a fair bit during the season.
But strangely enough, most of them were Broncos fans and not Brisbane Roar fans.
They hardly knew the rules of football and the conversations over the years and over the beers and barbies were more about Wendell Sailor or Darren Lockyer or Carmichael going to AFL, rather than Frankie Farina or Matt McKay.
We did go along to the occasional Roar game in Brisbane, but the interest seemed to die down in the last year or two.
But this year it’s come back on and they’re the topic of conversation again. A big group of us are going up for the A-League Grand Final on Sunday.
Funnily enough, my good mate won’t be coming with us and it’ll be strange that he won’t be there in the Suncorp stands with us.
He works in the entertainment industry and has appeared in clubs and on the TV a little bit, but he is by no means a household name.
He went over to the UK to pursue his entertainment business.
However, it wasn’t for himself, it was for his lovely teenage daughter, who’s got a voice like Barbara Streisand.
It was a brave call, but he upped his family and moved to the UK last October and is now settled in Oxford.
She recently appeared in a UK open song contest, and although she didn’t win it, she made the final and attracted enough attention to get her first professional entertainment contract to sing in clubs across Europe.
We’re all thrilled for her and their family.
My mate, of course, still follows the news in Australia and Australian sport. It’s going to be a big weekend this weekend; Broncos on Friday and the Roar on Sunday.
Sky Sports in the UK are showing the A-League Grand Final on Sunday morning UK time.
In fact, we had a Google of the Sky Sports TV guide and apart from Sunday, the A-League Grand Final is going to be repeated on Sky Sports six times throughout the day on Monday.
The betting shops across the UK are all showing it live with Roar the favourites at 1.77 and the Mariners at 3.00 to win in 90 minutes of play.
There seems to be plenty of interest in it.
Through Skype and emails I’ve also found out that he has already organised an A-League Grand Final breakfast at his place with a few Aussie expats and some of his Oxford mates.
True to form, he has already made friends over there and organised a few social events for the locals.
The temperature overnight in Oxford on Sunday will be about zero degrees with light rain forecast, so it won’t be an outdoor BBQ brekkie.
The forecast for Brisbane on Sunday is for a few showers in the morning clearing to a sunny day, but pretty warm and very humid and about 28 degrees. Might be even hotter than that for the Mariners fans.
I read that ticket sales for the A-League Grand Final had already reached about 44,000 by midday today and they look like breaking the 50,000 mark by the weekend. Should be a great atmosphere.
Broncos tickets for Friday night are selling very well too.
I’m looking forward to the game and having a good time at Suncorp and I know my mate and his new found friends will be having a good time watching the A-League Grand Final from Oxford.
Win, lose or draw we’ll be having a good discussion/Skype about it all on Sunday night, hopefully about the Roar’s first A-League Grand Final win.
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March 10th 2011 @ 7:26am
UK Steve said | March 10th 2011 @ 7:26am | Report comment
Yeah, the interest in the A League final over here in the UK is massive. I wanted to discuss the Barca v Arsenal game at work but all anyone wanted to talk about was Roar v the other team.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:08am
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:08am | Report comment
UK Sceptic,
I’m surprised.
I would have thought the big buzz in the UK right now would be the pies v bombers NAB Cup final.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:37am
ItsCalledFootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:37am | Report comment
March 10th 2011 @ 7:14pm
UK Steve said | March 10th 2011 @ 7:14pm | Report comment
Unfortunately, it seems like my comment has been taken the wrong way. Having the match replayed 6 times on Sky Sports is pretty impressive and it’s something that all Aussies should take great pride in. The NAB Cup final is not on TV but ESPN do show three AFL games live every weekend, which is proof that there is a real interest in the sport.
March 10th 2011 @ 9:33pm
CleanMatch said | March 10th 2011 @ 9:33pm | Report comment
The AFL is often shown on Eurosports too.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:38pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:38pm | Report comment
How much did they buy that content for?
March 10th 2011 @ 10:49pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:49pm | Report comment
Never heard any figures, but as you insinuate, I very much doubt there is anything substantial though for the AFL’s coffers.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:57pm
UK Steve said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:57pm | Report comment
Does it matter what the amount is? The fact is that they are showing it.
March 10th 2011 @ 9:49pm
punter said | March 10th 2011 @ 9:49pm | Report comment
Major interest, people from Uzbekistan to the US of A, the people of Uruguay & Uganda are all talking about the PIES v the DONS.
March 14th 2011 @ 8:55pm
Moonface said | March 14th 2011 @ 8:55pm | Report comment
Did you watch the A-League grand final UK Steve?
March 15th 2011 @ 3:54pm
Mahony said | March 15th 2011 @ 3:54pm | Report comment
LOL!
March 10th 2011 @ 9:44am
Fussball ist unser leben said | March 10th 2011 @ 9:44am | Report comment
Nice one, Moonface.
I, too, just downloaded the SkySports TV Guide and it’s quite amazing to realise our 6-year old Football league is attracting such extensive coverage in the “home of football” – particularly, when you consider, how much Football content is available for SkySports in the UK & Europe.
And it is not just football fans, who are watching our A-League.
Football scouts, representing the biggest clubs from the biggest football leagues in Europe, Asia & the Americas, are already analysing and signing A-League players, which indicates how quickly the A-League has developed in such a short period.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:19am
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:19am | Report comment
Mixed feelings there Fussball.
I know the A-League gets good exposure but its also sad to see so many good players moving overseas. The best in the league in fact.
I know overseas clubs are showing interest already in players like Matt McKay, Thomas Brioch, Matt Ryan and others.
Ah well, then again it gives young players like ours the breaks that they need to get noticed and play professional football anywhere in the world.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:30am
Fussball ist unser leben said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Moonface
As Hannibal Lecter said to the lovely Officer Clarice Starling in that Jonathan Demme classic “The Silence of the Lambs” … quid pro quo.
I would rather have our A-League producing footballers, who are highly-valued on the global football market than produce mediocre players.
And, alas, football is a truly global market and, in the absence of government constraints (e.g. working visas), we have to expect players to be drawn to the highest-paying jobs.
Whilst I’m not going to say the A-League will ever compete with the major leagues of Europe, I have every confidence that, by 2020, the A-League will be able to pay wages that makes us competitive with the J-League and K-League and able to attract and retain the best football talent within the Asian region.
March 10th 2011 @ 12:44pm
Axelv said | March 10th 2011 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
“I would rather have our A-League producing footballers, who are highly-valued on the global football market than produce mediocre players.” Yep! Hit the nail on the head. May there be many more promising young players to be produced out of the A-League, and may they have highly successful careers!
March 15th 2011 @ 3:57pm
Mahony said | March 15th 2011 @ 3:57pm | Report comment
Fus – I take you point, but I think we will find a ‘equlibrium stste’ in the next 5 or 6 years. The rewards of staying at home are better than ever (financial and technical) and the return to the national team of the very best going OS are worth it also. There are plenty of great leagues around the world that are selling leagues. We will be the next one…
March 10th 2011 @ 1:54pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Moonface ,
Mate the A league gets rubbish exposure. Example,, The Roar won the so called Minor premiership( should be called major premiership) and that night on channel nine they got 25 seconds of news coverage. They gave Darren Lockyer some 50 seconds coverage on how it was his 17 th season of football.
Yep that is good coverage…
Channel 7 gave more coverage to Carmichael Hunt not playing a game of Aussie rules than the Roar winning the premiership,, yep good coverage.
Channel 10 gave exactly the same ratio of time as well.
The only channels that gave balance were ABC and SBS. Funny that , no commercial benefit or motives.
Take out your watch ( but don’t borrow Australian Football’s watch because it does not work) and time the exposure given to Rugby league on channel 9 when the Broncos play their 1st game and the time given to the A league final. I think you will then realise that the exposure given to the real Football is Crap.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:31pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:31pm | Report comment
Look – it works both ways and in some ways football has to earn some respect from the media.
A week ago the Courier Mail ran its usual anti-soccer scare campaign – they said the grand final tickets were overpriced, a rip off and no one would go to the game.
This week they are running stories about OUR Brisbane soccer team and how the grand final was going to be a sellout. They are even running competitions to give away grand final tickets.
News limited papers are gutless like that and have no principles. If it sells papers they will run with it.
If people support soccer in droves, News Limited media will change their tune.
If next season the A-League turns around and the numbers go up again, then we should get better coverage for soccer.
In a lot of ways things have improved, but in some ways media outlets are still with their heads in the sand.
We are all adults and we understand why the Daily Rugby League Telegraph has 16 pages of rugby league today and only one quarter of a page on soccer.
If News Limited owned the Roar or were 50% owners of the Mariners it would be a different scenario.
That’s what the Australian media is all about – making money.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:54pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:54pm | Report comment
Ah, Vultures Ltd… I don’t pay any attention to journalists claims to being heroes. It’s a cold world and everyone is looking for their crust
especially journos competing with all the social media out there,
March 10th 2011 @ 11:09pm
NF said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:09pm | Report comment
I’m all for better coverage of football in the media but once again this it one of those ‘conspiracy theories’ because of News LTD. Look i hate news ltd for what they done to league but you do know RL is No 1 watched sport in QLD so of course it would get majority coverage same thing will happen in Europe with football getting majority of the coverage while union, basketball,etc get push back.
The media runs what print papers football is the number one sport in the world as far as I’m concerned fans have no right to complain considering majority of the world’s media is fixated on it just because Aussie media ain’t the best in football media doesn’t mean it’s the end of football in Australia.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:04pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:04pm | Report comment
It is interesting that the match is being replayed so often…
I guess with England being the football centre of the world, maybe managers and agents from Pomgolia have lobbied hard for it to be shown so they can see what talent is out there in the wider world.
It’s all a scam, I tells ya, to pinch players from us.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:17pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
More likely, the people running SkySports Uk Division understand the UK sports market and give their customers what they want.
Rob, surely, you can find something positive to say about the A-League in the lead up to the GF rather attempt to have a(nother) cheap shot at our Game?
March 10th 2011 @ 10:12pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:12pm | Report comment
Fuss, you misinterpret me. I was having a laugh.
I have posted many a positive thing about the local competition.
Amazingly, after all of this time you see me as an enemy of the A-League.
The only reason I have pay TV is so I can watch the A-League.
Sorry, I should have added a smilie.
March 10th 2011 @ 9:35pm
CleanMatch said | March 10th 2011 @ 9:35pm | Report comment
How much did they buy that content for though? It has been on Sky for a number of years now.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:09am
Australian Football said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:09am | Report comment
Moonface—-that was a delightful read and well done. I love to read stories like yours—it shows how far football has come. A full house at Suncorp—of coarse I would have preferred a derby Grand Final with the Roar v GCU FC. However, this will still be a great occasion.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:33am
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:33am | Report comment
But you’re not going, even though you live just 1 hour and 5 minutes on a free express train. And that is how long it takes – check the timetable – and there’s free bus from the city station that takes you right into the Stadium. A great occasion, but one that you won’t make the effort to attend.
March 10th 2011 @ 12:46pm
Axelv said | March 10th 2011 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
Have I missed something? Where does he state that he isn’t going?
I live in Melbourne, have already made arrangements to be at a house that has Fox Sports on Sunday afternoon
March 10th 2011 @ 1:15pm
Australian Football said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:15pm | Report comment
No I will not travel 2hrs, both ways by train—by you own calculations from Helensvale. Roar supporters have not been supportive of GCU and like you have called for us to be dropped from the HAL. I am not about to support them while they have been so vocal against us. I shall save my $53 for Robina next year. I will watch the GF at my local Football Club on Fox for nought with friends and family.. Enjoy the game while they are in the HAL.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:31pm
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:31pm | Report comment
AF
Your attitude is exactly what is holding back the A-League. You have the A-League Grand Final just up the road and you aren’t bothering to go. I would go no matter who was playing.
You have no excuse. It is simply poor form. Are you a football supporter or not?
March 10th 2011 @ 11:53pm
BrisbaneBhoy said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:53pm | Report comment
Pfft, so what if he doesn’t show up to the Grand Final. He supporters Gold Coast, not Brisbane nor Central Coast. If anything you should congratulate him for turning up during the season for GCU matches and not just the Final Series. If you are to have a go at anyone, why not the 35k-40k who will be at Suncorp come Sunday, but will be nowhere to be seen come next season regular season fixtures?
Then again, why should they bother turning up/spending money during the season when it doesn’t mean anything to Australians. It’s the Final Series/play-offs are what is deemed important in this country after all, so to have ago at those who only show interest in the team/league come the Final Series isn’t really fair as hey are just doing the normal/accepted thing here.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:34pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
I think Australian Football must need to buy a new watch, the trip is 1 hour from Helensvale. I am glad your not a ref mate.
People who fail to invest into the game are usually the ones who cry out the loudest when things fail.
The $53 investment to help Aust football and have a great day/night out is a cheap price to pay.
I have been to both GCU and Roar games and have found the GCU fans to be lacking in passion. This really is mirroring the attitude of alot of people on the Gold Coast, generally they lack community spirit.
Funny that when Clive opens the gates they turn up in there thousands but when they have to pay a few bucks they do not turn up and support their team. Yep that sounds to me like a passionless supporter.
Anyway I am glad GCU never made the final because fans like you add nothing to the atmosphere of such a great day. Enjoy your TV watching I a glad that my Dad took me to the football and did not tell me to watch it in front of the TV. And they wonder why Australian kids are getting fatter,,,,, thank god I was not your son
March 10th 2011 @ 1:47pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
That’s a bit tough.
AF has been a stout supporter of the game and GCU the whole time and he goes along to the GCU games as well.
GCU has got its problems and its not only the local GC residents fault – start at the top and work your way down.
From here GC is closer than Brissie, but not too many travel to a GC game, even for the Titans.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:05pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
yep I agree I was probably a little tough. It just never amazes me just how non- community minded alot of people on the GC are.
I remember running all over Stuggart in 2006 to get a world cup ticket for the game between Italy and Aust. I ran with back pack on some 10 km in 35 degrees heat and lined up for 4 hours in the hope of a ticket.
To the day that I die that was one of the greatest and most emotional experiences of my life and I would like everyone to experience that same feeling.
To have 50,000 people watching this great great game will be a buzz and if he is passionate about this great game he should join the party and soak up the atmosphere of Football blooded people in a country where for so many years it was denegrated and put down.This is Footballs time to be exposed and we should all enjoy this amazing day and night. So grab your mate and get along to the game and you then will not have regrets.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:10pm
Australian Football said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:10pm | Report comment
Ian—-as a Senior and not so steady on my feet these days 2hrs on a train (Realfootball’s calculations not mine—he lives in Helensvale just going with his flow on the transport situation
)..
I’m not a wealthy senior, as much as I would like to attend a GF; GCU FC can do with my support($53) more than the Roar—-whose supporters have done all they could to help crush GCU FC out of existence.
I have only missed two home United games in our short history. I won’t be rushing up to any Roar home matches—they don’t need me and I don’t need them—I need GCU and GCU need me at Robina. besides I don’t control household finances.. TC&K does end of story
Btw Thanks again Moonface
March 10th 2011 @ 3:58pm
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
RF, enough! You can gently encourage our friend AF to the GF. But there’s encouraging, and there’s persecution. Thanks mate, Roar Mods.
March 10th 2011 @ 5:01pm
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
fair enough
March 10th 2011 @ 1:18pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:18pm | Report comment
There is truly no global future in three of the football codes that exist in this country. The only football code that has a future on a truly international level is that of Football ( often referred to as soccer by the poorly educated media and corrupted media) This is the only Football code that has a true World Cup . As soon as people realise this, maybe we may have the real possibility of challenging for this truly number 1 world trophy.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:25pm
Australian Football said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
Amen to that…
March 10th 2011 @ 1:27pm
kovana said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
I disagree with your opinion.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:43pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
And I agree with everything ian said.
What exactly don’t you agree with kovana – let’s discuss.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:54pm
kovana said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
“There is truly no global future in three of the football codes that exist in this country.”
I disagree with this comment.
“The only football code that has a future on a truly international level is that of Football.”
There is no future…… BECAUSE Football is already a Truly international game and so is the Fifa WC at this time.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:29pm
Australian Football said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
You have totally missed Ian’s point—he is referring to Australian Football on the world stage (sokkah to you I guess). Its undeniably true that Australian Football has an amazing opportunity to advance its stocks and be first, a dominate power in Asia, and secondly on the world stage, that is the future Ian is referring to. At present we are the 20th best nation in the world out of 208 nations—we are striving, or should be striving to be number one. Whether we reach that goal is another matter, but that should be our goal.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:53pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:53pm | Report comment
Totally agree with you Aust Football are you going to the game on Sunday?
March 10th 2011 @ 3:55pm
kovana said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
Thanks for clearing that up.
Im sure Australia can get to the Number one ranking in Football if given ample enough time. Australia already has good players of international calibre.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:14pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:14pm | Report comment
You refer to the poorly educated, but then make a statement that cannot be backed up with some key metrics.
This business report in the WA paper (also reported in the SMH), doesn’t not really back up your opinion (which you are fully entitled to have, even if it is way off beam):
http://www.watoday.com.au/business/afls-success-in-black-and-white-20110308-1bmk6.html
Some key points:
“The AFL was the most-watched football competition on Australian television last year, with an average of 14.64 million viewers per club. That compares with 13.81 million viewers per club for the NRL.
With free-to-air television dominated by the AFL and NRL, rivals are left to the limited audience of pay-TV. As a result, A-League soccer clubs average 1.5 million viewers per season, and SuperRugby clubs just 958,000. ”
“The point is demonstrated by Collingwood, among the most-watched and reported clubs of any code in the country.
Almost 28 million viewers tuned in to Collingwood matches on TV last season.
That’s more than the total Australian audience of every A-League and SuperRugby match combined.
No other AFL or NRL club can make such a boast. ”
That last one is significant, Collingwood on its own, is watched by more Australians than the A-League and Super Rugby combined.
Are you able to appreciate the scale of that?
If one club on its own is many times bigger that all A-League clubs combined – how do you propose that soccer can match the two bigger codes in this country?
Please note – this report was an independent report, it was not commissioned by the AFL.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:26pm
Fussball ist unser leben said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:26pm | Report comment
This article is about about the A-League GF.
Why is an ARF fan posting irrelevant ARF news on this thread?
I have been warned not to post Football statements on the ARF tab, so it’s disappointing to see an ARF-fan posting more irrelevant nonsense about ARF on a Football tab.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:30pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
Fussball
someone has written that there is no future for the other codes – why did he write that? You will need to ask him – but I’m giving very objective information, with full references, for people to be assured that there is indeed a future for the other codes.
March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
March 10th 2011 @ 2:32pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
I should also point out that the link is about all forms of football – it’s general economic information about all the football codes – it should be of interest to all footballing fans.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:36pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
Myleft foot ,
Absolute garbage, where did you get these figures? How can anyone determine how many viewers watch a particular game accurately?
You must compare apples with apples .Your comparison is based on the figures from a West Australian news paper who is owned by whom ? What are the interests of the owners of this newspaper??? Would it be the AFL?
Look at the big picture not the one through your microscope.
Manchester United takes in more money in one month than the complete AFL has in total budget for an entire year.
The World Cup has a global “estimated ” ( a word that you fail to use) audience of some 1000 times more than the AFL final.
Just because a particular sport is on TV does not mean that viewers are watching it .
Aust rules football is played in one country and has NO international game based on these rules.
Yep I can see a family in germany , China , Indonesia or the US sitting down and watching the entire final or even 5 minutes of the AFL final, yep you got a winner there.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:53pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:53pm | Report comment
WA Today is the Fairfax paper. The figures are listed as coming from Repucon, which has partnerships with AFL, NRL, ARL, FFA, CA and others.
Typically viewership ratings are from polling companies that track a ‘representative group’ of viewers with an appliance attached to their TVs to extrapolate figures.
Also, not true on the Man Utd/AFL financial comparison, the 2009 AFL Annual Report lists $303m turnover for the year (independant of all clubs), whilst Forbes lists Man Utd as $519m annual turnover for 2009 (dropping to $459 this year). Suffice to say, your assertion is wrong.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:30pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
Wrong wrong wrong .
If you had an understanding fo how Man UTd runs its buisness you would understand what I said is right. Man utd has buisness bases in several other international cities which is not included in the figures you state. Eg Japan, New york, and South Korea. The financial turnover in South Korea alone is some 200 million per year. So a little more attention to detail would be appreciated.
Man utd and the Yankees are they not owned under the same umbrella???
March 10th 2011 @ 6:21pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 6:21pm | Report comment
You shun an independent report (which is easily verifiable with the known ratings numbers), but then pull some silly numbers off the top of your head about a foreign club.
Real credible.
By the way, as I said, the SMH ran the same article. So I a putting up independent info that has been published by at least two broadsheets.
Honestly, some of the arguments soccer fans run on this forum, it’s like they have a mental block about taking in information that shows how massive the AFL is in relation to the A-League.
Mate, there are only 3 or 4 soccer in clubs in the world that can boast an average attendance larger than Collingwood’s.
Why are soccer fans unwilling to accept something big happening in their own backyard – they always want to point overseas, as if something is only acceptable and valid if it is happening overseas, anything Australian is not good enough by virtue of the fact that it is Australian.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:46pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:46pm | Report comment
What can I say if Forbes and Deloitte’s figures won’t sway you? These are companies whose jobs are to provide accurate figures of value and revenue for prospective sponsors and advertisers. You are not reasonable.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:56pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
I wonder why Fairfax shares have fallen by 60% over the past few years and there readers have also fallen by more .
They write crap like most papers .
March 10th 2011 @ 7:36pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 7:36pm | Report comment
Enough AFL spruiking Leftie.
How can 28 million people watch Collingwood when there are only 21 million Australians in total?
These are fantasy figures made up by the AFL marketing department before the start of another very heavily promoted AFL season.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:03pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:03pm | Report comment
Moonface ,
You said it so well my Grandma who has been dead for 20 years was apparently watching the Collingwho game, I expect up there they can get a good view.
These AFL convirts are in need of a good dose of reality.
After the “so called 150 “years the game has grown so much they are thinking of having a World Cup, how about we get together 40 guys( i think that’s about how many turn up to play and each guy gets a run for 5 mins and then takes a break) and go live in Togo for a few weeks and call ourselves the Togo national team and go to the world cup for Aust Rules or should I call it international rules.
Mate they just make me laugh.
March 12th 2011 @ 12:04am
MyLeftFoot said | March 12th 2011 @ 12:04am | Report comment
Moonface
it’s an independent report.
The 28 million comes about because a touch over 1 mill (on average) watch Collingwood on TV every week. That’s what it means.
Adrian has referred to the same report in his most recent article.
March 12th 2011 @ 10:58am
ian said | March 12th 2011 @ 10:58am | Report comment
MyleftFoot
You never cease to amaze me. Harry, according to a third or fourth party could not kick a Sherrin football.
Firstly, why would he?
Secondly, at the time he was doing a commercial for a clothing line dressed in a suit and wearing dress shoes.
He earns more than most AFL team sheets earn. He is a world name. He is Harry Kewell.
Do you see him involved in naked exploits with teenage girls,drugs,getting pissed in public and causing criminal damage like many AFL players and then protected by the governing body like that of the AFL admin?
Secondly, after working for the AIS and having a University Qual in Exercise Phys.I have a pretty good knowledge of the specificity of sporting skills and fitness for each sport.
When several players from other football codes can”jump” across to play this game at the elite level it shows the lack of sport specific skill acquisition that is required in this game.( Australian Rules Football).
Here in Aust, AFL teams play once per week, in Europe Football teams(real football) play 2-3 games per week if involved in Champions League.
The present fitness coach of the Australian Football team ( who use to be the fitness coach of an Adelaide AFL team ,stated to me personally in Brisbane just prior to the Aust V Iraq game that Kewell is by far the most impressive athlete he has anything to do with.
If you do not like the biggest and the most popular sport in the world why do you persist in this forum, PO to your local forum and talk handball.
You being on this specific sport site shows just how good this sport is.
Good bye.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:35pm
The Bush said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
“There is truly no global future in three of the football codes that exist in this country.”
That must be why Rugby Union has been admitted to the Olympics…
Or why the Rugby League World Cup is expanding to fourteen (14) teams in 2013…
“As soon as people realise this, maybe we may have the real possibility of challenging for this truly number 1 world trophy.”
Yeah right. I love the National Team and wish them all the best, but if you think a small country of just twenty (20) million people tucked away in the Asian Confederation can compete with nations like Brazil and Germany, who dwarf it in terms of available talent pool, and in Germany’s case money, you’re dreaming. England, France, Argentina, Spain, these are all countries with twice the population or “talent pool” to call on.
The Netherlands is a great example of a comparable nation in terms of population and scale of economy (they are a little smaller in both accounts), who, despite making finals, have never won a World Cup. I’d love if we could even achieve what they have, but not at the detriment of all our other sporting “strengths”.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:21pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
the Bush ,
Oh how short your memory is .
Whilst Population base is one of the factors in determining how good a sporting team you will have, that is not accurate in many cases. Otherwise China or India would have won World Cups in Football.
It is more so the history of the game and the culture established in that particular country( particularly coaching) and the will to win that determines where you will sit on the world level.
You talk about Pop base of countries, why then was Hungary so powerful during the 1950′s in football and if you had a good history knowledge know that it was only through Russian interference that they did not win the world cup during this time. A very interesting story in itself. Why then did Uruguay do so well. Why as you said have the Netherlands done so well with a population well less than Aust ( you are wrong on this note) You are also wrong as far as the economic greatness of our country compared with them, per head of pop they are far more wealthier than us as far as per capita wealth after currencies are balanced.
Why have Hungrary won more world Cups in water polo than any other nation, the US have 300 million and Hungrary less than 6 million yet have beaten the US in most encounters ( some 70%). That equates to a 50 times pop base.
We are a small country in real terms but have a look at the many world champions we have had, Croatia is a very small country but are extremely good in the area of sport. Tennis , Basketball, Water polo and Football. A population of less than 6 million people. It is in the fabric of the people , like here in Australia.
Serbia beat Germany in the last world cup, NZ were not beaten even by one of the teams you mentioned Italy.
People from other places in the world and a majority of Australians have no interest in Rugby League in fact people OS think the game is ridiculous. Although they do have an interest in Football.
Didn’t New Zeland win the past couple of world cups in Rugby league?? What is the pop diff there??
As for world cup comparison with Rugby league which you mention , ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
A friend of mine was 42 years of age and lived OS he was asked to play for the country he had lived and worked in for 3 years in the World Cup for Rugby League. He and two team mates stayed with us during the last World cup in League. Yep you can compare that with Football where some countries who have been trying to qualify for the world cup with Professional players have not done so in over 70 years.
Could you imagine just walking up to Harry Kewell and saying hey mate let me play tonight i will mark Schweinsteiger in the middle of the park at the world cup.
March 10th 2011 @ 6:24pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 6:24pm | Report comment
Yeh, but can Harry kick a footy??
March 10th 2011 @ 8:07pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 8:07pm | Report comment
Myleftfoot,
Maybe you could tell me when the next international in Aust rules is.
Just 4-5 clubs bigger than Collingwho in the world, Are you related to Charlie Sheen?
You are a blubbering fool.
There is 10 football clubs in Brazil that have more fans than people in the state of Victoria you moron. I lived in Brazil for 2 years and you have NO idea.
Go OS and try to buy a Collingwho jersey in Brazil, the US, Germany, Italy China or India. But you will find any one of 20 football club jersays any where in the world.
You need to travel and get out of your closet.
In mexico City I was there for a local derby where the ground held 125,000 people and 100,000 were outside the gate . Munich Fan fest 2006 Aust V Brazil 175,000 people in fan fest , 300,000 in various other places around Munich fan centre San Paulo had some 600,000 fans when Aust played brazil and that was at a very unsociable hour of the early hours of the morning.
You are trying to compare your intelligence with that of Pauline Hanson.
I can see it now the Mexicans and Brazilians in there thousands watching the Grand Final in AFL.
Charlie Sheen could do with some like minded people like you at the moment, don’t waste my time and why are you on this forum if you want to knock the game of Football. Go back to your AFL mates and talk some monosyllabic talk.
I will not waste my time on your lunatic rantings and BS stats and figures.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:37pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:37pm | Report comment
As I said, there are only 4 soccer clubs in the whole world who boast a higher average attenance than Collingwood:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_club_attendances_(2010)
Have a look through the list. Can’t see any Brazilian clubs, nope.
Interesting that the mods would allow you to call me a blubbering fool when I’m the only one putting verifiable facts and figures, with full sources, and you appear to be the one making up your own facts and figures.
March 11th 2011 @ 3:04am
The_Wookie said | March 11th 2011 @ 3:04am | Report comment
I bet you cant get an official Adelaide United Jersey in the US, Germany, Italy, China or India either. i wonder how many thousands of people watched the A-league final in mexico in the early hours of the morning.
You are comparing Australian sport to that in other countries. Seriously.
This comment on the Aleague bought to you by the previous posters AFL related remark.
March 11th 2011 @ 12:06pm
Moonface said | March 11th 2011 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
Woosie.
When Brazil legend Romario played for Adelaide United they sold more Adelaide United shirts in South America than they did in Adelaide.
Get your facts right before you embark on more anti-soccer ranting.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:06pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:06pm | Report comment
He sure can Leftfoot with his left foot real well and pretty good with his right and beat any AFL player over a 10 m sprint.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:38pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:38pm | Report comment
One time when the Socceroos were training at the MCG,Farina brought out the Sherrins for a bit of a lark, and eye witness accounts report that Harry couldn’t kick the footy over a jam tin.
March 11th 2011 @ 1:51pm
The_Wookie said | March 11th 2011 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
Oddly enough I never mentioned South America.
March 12th 2011 @ 12:02pm
Moonface said | March 12th 2011 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Sometimes Wookie I don’t even think you yourself know what you are agruing about – you just seem to want to argue anti-soccer things.
South America is overseas and the point you were trying to make was that Adelaide United was unknown overseas. In fact it is.
The point that AFL supporters consistently fail to grasp is that soccer is a world game played all over the world and the A-League is a soccer competition that is watched all round the world.
It is not a parochial Melbourne game only popular in southern Australia.
Please refer to Roar contributors by their handle. Tristan. The Roar.
March 11th 2011 @ 1:33am
Jason said | March 11th 2011 @ 1:33am | Report comment
How is calling the sport soccer uneducated or corrupted? If you haven’t noticed the vast majority of the populace call the sport soccer. What’s so bad about that? It’s just a name for god’s sake to diifferentiate it from the 3 other footballs in this country.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:37am
ian said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:37am | Report comment
Jason,
Do you call your piece of steak , mince? The sport is called Football , the other football codes are called Rugby League, Rugby Union and Australian Rules Football. Simple not involving too many neurons or too much of your cerebrum.
As for your use of the word ” populace” , have not heard of such a word, checked the dictionary to ensure that this word does not exist and I was right , it does not.
Vast majority of people call it ” soccer” . Mate you need to go back to year 3 and do some math.
Last time I read the demographics of just one country, Brazil they had roughly 250-300 million people who all call it Football. China 1.2 biilion they call it Football, India 1.1 billion people they call it football, Germany 80 million they call it football and the list goes on..actually another 201 countries that are with FIFA.. The only countries where it is not ALWAYS called football are USA , New Zealand and some places here by people who are not sporting literate.The only reason you call it Soccer is because it has 2 syllables , saves you having to pronounce three words ” Australian Rules Football”.
Enjoy
March 11th 2011 @ 9:48am
Tristan Rayner said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:48am | Report comment
Ian. Your attitude towards other posters needs work. The Roar is a place for respectful sporting debate, not flaming, abusive or offensive. remarks,
Please be respectful of this – your posts will not be published if this persists.
Thanks,
Tristan (Ed.)
March 11th 2011 @ 10:52am
ian said | March 11th 2011 @ 10:52am | Report comment
See updated version, which I have modified for you.
March 11th 2011 @ 2:09pm
Jason said | March 11th 2011 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Well your opinion just lost what was left of its legitimacy with that comment. First of all I suggest you invest in a better dictionary, or learn how to use one, as the word “populace” does exist and I think the fact that you have never heard of the word reflects on your CEREBRUM- A word I’m sure you have heard before. Maybe I should of been more specific but I assumed being an Australian website you would have understood my comment to be in the context of Australia but clearly not. So I willl re-iterate. The vast, vast majority of Australia’s population (as well as Canada’s, America’s, Japan’s, New Zealand’s, the Pacific Isle’s and Ireland’s if you insist on taking this global) call the sport soccer. This doesn’t make these countries “sporting illiterate” but reflects the diversity of the world. We are not all one homogenous block and this includes football. To answer your question no I don’t call steak mince that’s just absurd. And the full names of the sports you listed above are actually Rugby League FOOTBALL, Rugby Union FOOTBALL, and Australian FOOTBALL (the rules part was droppped).
Enjoy….http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/populace
March 12th 2011 @ 10:11am
ian said | March 12th 2011 @ 10:11am | Report comment
Jason,
Firstly, your use of grammar is appauling.
Second, my 5 yr old son picked up that there is no such word as” re-iterate” the word is ‘reiterate’ .It has no hyphen ,as it is not a compound word.
I do not wish to converse with you anymore as you are boring me.
Maybe( no use of hyphen here) sometime spent using a dictionary would help you .
Just remember this, Football is the number one sport in the world and if you think differently you are deluded.
I have nothing more to say to you on this matter.
March 12th 2011 @ 8:24pm
Rob McLean said | March 12th 2011 @ 8:24pm | Report comment
appauling, Ian?
March 15th 2011 @ 3:58pm
Mahony said | March 15th 2011 @ 3:58pm | Report comment
Hear, hear!
March 10th 2011 @ 1:42pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
hey Australian Football
That price you pay for your football ticket to the final includes your Train trip so in reality it is a very cheap day out .
If Gold Coast United had of made the final I still would have gone and I would have shouted you a beer.
Do yourself a favour, buy one of the few tickets left and I will buy you a beer.
When you are on your death bed you do not want to have regrets.
Go the Mighty Roar.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:30pm
The Bush said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
“That price you pay for your football ticket to the final includes your Train trip so in reality it is a very cheap day out .”
Have you seen the price of food and drink at Suncorp? Also the price of tickets for the Grand Final are not “cheap” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s actually a little insulting, and I’ve paid for one.
“If Gold Coast United had of made the final I still would have gone and I would have shouted you a beer.”
At the price’s Suncorp charge, I won’t be shouting anyone a drink come Grand Final Afternoon…
“Go the Mighty Roar.”
Agree on that one though!
March 10th 2011 @ 3:09pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:09pm | Report comment
The Bush: “Have you seen the price of food and drink at Suncorp? Also the price of tickets for the Grand Final are not “cheap” by any stretch of the imagination. It’s actually a little insulting, and I’ve paid for one.”
See, that’s how much Ian loves the game and wants to see it grow. He will actually spend his whole beer allowance on one frothy just to get AF to the game!
March 10th 2011 @ 4:02pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
Rob,
After 2 beers i have had enough( I could even be cheering for the Mariners after these 2 beers) not likely .
How much is a beer at Suncorp ? must admit I have always been with my wife and have not had a drink.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:16pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:16pm | Report comment
I’ve got no idea but, generally, whereever you go, it’s overpriced.
That would be interesting though, someone should give you a second beer
March 10th 2011 @ 3:41pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
The Bush ,
Yep your right as far as the beer price goes but it is buisness, your choice at the end of the day.
But i would still shout him a beer.
Mate your memory is a liitle off, the great thing about sport is that you may be the best but you are still beatable, at the end of the day it comes down to heart and the will to win.
Look at Tiger Woods, he has not won in the last 2 years because his mind is somewhere else as well as other parts of his body.
That’s why this sunday the last 27 games means absolutely NOTHING. It comes down to the team that wants it most and a little luck and some good or bad refs decisions.
We should have a beer and discuss in person before the game at the Caxton, cheaper there for a pint
March 10th 2011 @ 9:52pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
The price of food and drinks will be the same at the Broncos game on Friday night – this is not the FFA’s fault and has nothing to do with them.
Ticket prices for the GF are below the AFL and NRL grand final prices of last year and not much more than what the NRL charge for a Broncos regular season game at Suncorp.
And . . . in 160 years of Australian sport this is the first time Brisbane Roar has made the grand final of the A-League so its worth every cent to be there on this historic occasion.
If you live in Brisbane and want to watch an AFL or NRL grand final add the cost of return airfares to Sydney or Melbourne and at least 2 nights accomodation to the price of the tickets.
March 10th 2011 @ 1:47pm
Mals said | March 10th 2011 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
Enjoyed reading that Moonface, thanks. However….
Go Mariners!!! 3rd GF appearance & hopefully 3rd time lucky!
March 10th 2011 @ 7:45pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 7:45pm | Report comment
The Mariners have done an excellent job his year and are not without a chance.
They need to score early and often if they are going to stop the Roar storming home.
Will be a great game and will give the Mariners a warm round of boos if they manage to score.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:15pm
TomC said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
‘However, it wasn’t for himself, it was for his lovely teenage daughter, who’s got a voice like Barbara Streisand.’
Poor thing. I hope they can find a good speech therapist in the UK.
March 10th 2011 @ 3:10pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:10pm | Report comment
At least she doesn’t have a nose like Babs!
March 10th 2011 @ 3:48pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 3:48pm | Report comment
Crap that’s funny, hope your going to the game at Suncorp on Sunday we need a few more laughs after the rain and floods.
The atmosphere will be great that’s worth my 78 bucks.
The NRL final was worth more than this and they never have that here do they.
So when you throw in the airfares of $300 and hotel dinner , breakfast , lunch, taxi and hooker= $ 600 ( only joking wife) the price to attend a home final is cheap.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:17pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:17pm | Report comment
A grand final is a grand final, it doesn’t matter what the cost is
March 10th 2011 @ 2:21pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
I probably am too passionate about this great game , but it truly is the only football code in this country that has a true international future.
My old school mates and football mates were called poofs, wogs and pussies for playing this great game by those more intelligent and learnard guys that played League . The same ones that were up for the things we see in the media today.
And I am sure , that if you played football ( soocer) you faced the same.
In this country we have so many people who play rugby league, aust rules and less so rugby union denegrating our football code. As to why they do that , I have my ideas but am not sure as to why they do denegrate it.
Maybe small man syndrome or the threat it posses.
But we should all stand together to make this game what it should be in this great country where we can stand together with people from other Asian countries and cheer for out teams as they play each other in a football game. By competing with other countries and having a sport and communication in common we are less likely to have wars and hostilities.
As I know it will never happen in rugby league, union and most definitely not in that Australian Rules game.
March 10th 2011 @ 2:58pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
“I probably am too passionate about this great game”
Yes.
March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm
kovana said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
Some pretty poor comments Ian.
March 10th 2011 @ 4:06pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:06pm | Report comment
what’s poor about what I said. If I have offended you I apologise.
Buti do not think what i said was poor, what does the word poor mean. I think that was what I was like when I was at Uni some 30 years ago.
March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm
Nick the second said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:00pm | Report comment
By competing with other countries and having a sport and communication in common we are less likely to have wars and hostilities
Didnt Iraq and the US just have one?
March 10th 2011 @ 4:09pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:09pm | Report comment
Well I think the war was pretty one sided here.
Not much to compare with the force of the US miltary.
March 15th 2011 @ 4:08pm
Mahony said | March 15th 2011 @ 4:08pm | Report comment
The days of Australia swanning around with the Mother Country and the 4 other Dominions kicking the living crap out of the colonies are over. We have never been a great sporting nation in global terms. It is a myth. That all changes if the Socceroos win something. This should be the nations sporting ‘lunar mission’. I say”we should go win the World Cup, not becasue it is easy but becasue it is hard”…… Alternatively we could invest hevily in the AFL ‘All Australian Team’ where we don’t need to fear failure. That is the Australian way after all……
March 10th 2011 @ 2:58pm
Nathan said | March 10th 2011 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Should have been Perth Glory’s year >:
Ah well, wasn’t to be, wasn’t to be.
Astounding work Brisbane Roar, only one more hurdle to go.
March 10th 2011 @ 4:57pm
NF said | March 10th 2011 @ 4:57pm | Report comment
I’m honestly sick of football fans who think it’s a media conspiracy against them please stop playing victim and fight the media for once get the promotion out there even if you have to buy time. I’m sick of the ‘poor me’ attitude go out there and do something rather than sitting on your hands and do something about it, send emails to the FFA get them to do something instead of nothing. Fight the good fight so stop complaining and start doing it’s the only way forward.
Also, here’s a hypothetical if football was the number 1 code I be certain that the 3 other codes would be push 6 pages back while football gets constant coverage I’m sure fans of those codes would be screaming ‘media conspiracy’ too if that was to happen and claim it was unfair. Well life is unfair deal with it football is already the number 1 code in the world that should be satisfactory enough.
Internationally this example can be apply to the European countries where football is number 1, with constant news throughout the season equivalent to the coverage NRL/AFL gets here why rugby union,basketball,etc would be push 6 pages it why because of demand and popularity of football exceeds the other codes.
Be thankful football in a better place it was than back in the ‘dark ages’.
P.S: Depending on how the Broncos go and if the Roars win then the A-League will get the back page.
Rant over.
March 10th 2011 @ 6:28pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 10th 2011 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
Yes, it’s all a conspiracy.
There out to get us.
If we can get the fixturing right, if it’s not too hot, not too cold,not raining, if there are absolutely no other events on, if we don’t play on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday or Sunday, if we start earlier,or start later, by god, watch us go then!!
March 10th 2011 @ 11:10pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:10pm | Report comment
hope to see you there Rob , it will be a blast, I wish I could convirt My mate Australian football to come with us .
March 10th 2011 @ 11:23pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:23pm | Report comment
yep we Football lovers who have the largest participation sport in the world, the largest sporting event in nthe world ( larger than the Olympics) and the largest sporting buisness in the world are out to get that little old game that was used to keep cricketers fit . The game that has NO international game using the Australian rules .
Yep your so so right , watch out tonight and check under your bed before going to sleep.
maybe you might find a communist hiding there as well.
March 10th 2011 @ 7:48pm
Moonface said | March 10th 2011 @ 7:48pm | Report comment
Its not a conspiracy, its a bias.
March 10th 2011 @ 10:19pm
Rob McLean said | March 10th 2011 @ 10:19pm | Report comment
You’re right Moonface, a conspiracy towards $$$$.
Sorry, I love the A-League but that is a reality.
March 11th 2011 @ 5:14pm
Moonface said | March 11th 2011 @ 5:14pm | Report comment
Rob,
no need to apologise, you can still love the A-League, even if it gets no media attention at all.
I can’t help thinking what the A-League would be like if it got the same publicity [or even more publicity] than the AFL or NRL gets.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:29pm
Rob McLean said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:29pm | Report comment
Moonface, in SA, Adelaide United get very good coverage, considering the comparative interest. There’s at least a page of soccer every day, there were several times last week it was on the back wrapper.
Heck, I even gave the grand final a mention in the sportswrap on my (admittedly country based, with a small audience) radio program.
I think some people misunderestimate the coverage the sport actually receives. However, I can’t really talk about what happens interstate.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:16pm
ian said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:16pm | Report comment
hey NF, Maybe I have had too many beers ,but I could not understand your words. It did not make sense , maybe you have had a carton of beers.
Anyway good luck to you, go the mighty Roar and tell the Collingwho to play a real sport not a pretend one.
March 10th 2011 @ 11:24pm
Realfootball said | March 10th 2011 @ 11:24pm | Report comment
Hard to argue with this. There does seem to be a culture of the whinge creeping in. Rather too much of “the dog ate my homework”, the worst example of which recently has been the constant complaints by Mariners fans that the disgraceful 7,500 to the prelim final at Bluetongue was somehow really 13,000 (not the first time for CCM fans either). Nonsense, CCM people, that stadium was easily less than 1/2 full – even on the tele you could see that. I’m with NF. Man up. When an ostrich sticks its head in the sand, the lion does not go away. It eats the ostrich. Which is all rather Kwai Chang Cain, but you see what I mean.
To somehow blame a bogyman for scaling down your attendance figures is not just absurd, it is flat out embarrassing. Ask yourselves why the attendance figure was so pitiful for such an important game. You have to ask the question to find the answer. And don’t blame the FFA, please. Not this time. Look in the mirror instead.
March 15th 2011 @ 4:11pm
Mahony said | March 15th 2011 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
One ‘back page’ for the Roar after that incredible win out of the 14 ‘metro’ dailies available to cover it from both major stables………..