How journalists are setting sports stars up for a fall
By itsuckstobeyou, 11 Mar 2011 itsuckstobeyou is a Roar Pro
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- Andrew Johns, Brendan Fevola, football media, footballers, Joel Monaghan, Lote Tuqiri, media, peter costello, role models
You can feel it coming: the assault charges, drink driving charges, nude photo scandals, spot betting scandals, public urination, public defecation, public fornication, racism, Marxism, drinking, smoking gambling, and so on.
Yep, the footy is upon us and the journos have had a gruelling pre-season.
While you and your kids are tucked into your beds, dreaming of unicorns and rainbows, your friendly neighbourhood journalist has been rummaging through Shane Warne’s garbage bins, staking out back alleys behind clinically depressed teenager’s hotel rooms, and desperately trying to justify to themselves that your kid’s heroes don’t deserve privacy (journalists can’t sleep at night, so they are compelled to do such things).
The justification is, and has always been, that athletes are role models.
Well so-bloody-what.
In his recent column in The Age, Peter Costello said: “Footballers are not chosen for their principles.
They do not go into a national draft for budding philanthropists. They can run and catch and kick a ball.”
The day I let a politician school me on sporting issues will be the day I let a footballer babysit my kids. However, the sentiment is true.
Athletes are role models only in an athletic sense.
The endless pressure put on athletes to behave like choir boys is a trap, set by media outlets, to ensure they have a back page story until the end of days.
The media have created a self-sustaining news mine. They tell us that our athletes have to be perfect. When they inevitably aren’t, they and their club are put under the microscope.
Every negative thing done and said by the player and club is brought to light. The media holds the club accountable for failing to prevent the player from being themselves, and the club is forced to sack or discipline the player. This raises the expectations on players to even more impossible levels of perfection.
More scandals. More sackings. More headlines.
If we continue to sack sport-stars for their off-field misdemeanours, such as Brendan Fevola, Joel Monaghan or Lote Tuqiri, we will, quite frankly, run out of talent. Based on recent reports, rugby league’s 2010 Dally M medallist would have been gone years ago along with the Australian captain in the early 00’s and the NZ captain this week.
Half-back of the century, Andrew Johns, would have had his career cut in half.
Yes, these men are role models. But what they do off the field is none of your business. Why is it in the “public interest” that Sonny Bill got a shag in a toilet cubicle, unless, of course, he pulls his hammy and is sidelined for two weeks.
What is your business, though, is what these journos are doing in their spare time.
You rely on journalists to bring you the truth.
Unlike the footballers Costello mentioned, they are chosen, in part, for their principles. So wouldn’t it be in the “public interest” to know what these principles are?
In a snippet in his column on the SMH site, Nine reporter Danny Weidler criticised journalists who were heavy drinkers themselves, and for their criticism of Todd Carney.
He also made mention of a journo who has said very little of the affair. She herself has had her license suspended and was labelled by Weidler as a “serial drink-driver”.
I applaud Danny for making a very important point.
Journalists aren’t angels and it can impact on how they present the truth. The only problem with Danny’s swipe is that he didn’t name names.
Knowing which journalists we can and can’t trust with our news is infinitely more important than what athletes do in their spare time. Had it have been a sportsperson who had lost their license, it would have been on the front page and the back three pages. Yet the people we trust with the truth are not held accountable, either publicly or privately, for their actions.
An athlete should be judged on their performance as an athlete. It is the journalist who should be judged on their integrity and principles.
A journalist who will cash in on a man’s career and reputation would appear to have nought of either.
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March 11th 2011 @ 9:11am
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:11am | Report comment
It reminds me of the set up job Tracey Grimshaw did on Matty Johns. She described him as a ‘friend’ and then did the biggest hachet job on his career, or the journo on 4 Corners for the same affair where vital witness accounts were not even mentioned.
Grimshaw’s career had just about stalled at that time and she literally sold her soul to the devil. Makes you think what journalists are capable of.
Funny how the AFL mob put the knife into John’s yet find no sympathy for the current 17 y.o. The similarities apart from age are close.
I didn’t think the journo’s name Weidler mentioned is any secret- ‘bourban Beck’ (Rebecca Wilson) has quite a rep but surprise surprise she sleeps with the boss!
March 11th 2011 @ 9:30am
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:30am | Report comment
Glass houses there Matt S. The NRL ‘mob’ havent been shy in commenting and sticking the boot in on Carey, Cousins, Fevola.
Cant have it all your own way.
March 11th 2011 @ 11:14am
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:14am | Report comment
Got a link?
March 11th 2011 @ 11:30am
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:30am | Report comment
To what?
Has Matt S?
March 11th 2011 @ 12:41pm
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 12:41pm | Report comment
@ Redb. You said “The NRL ‘mob’ havent been shy in commenting and sticking the boot in on Carey, Cousins, Fevola”. Please give for us all a link to prove this assertion that you made.
March 11th 2011 @ 10:16am
clipper said | March 11th 2011 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Matt S, even if we may never get to the truth re Matty Johns, the fact that he was captain, married and representing his side should be more that enough to justify what he went through – the whole episode was sordid and disgusting and he should’ve known better, and of course thought he had got away with it. Tracy was only doing her job, not trying to be on his side. I still think they should’ve made more of why Sam Gilbert kept those pictures on his hard drive – there’s a story to investigate.
March 11th 2011 @ 11:38am
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:38am | Report comment
The Sam Gilbert thing as with the Victorian police losing evidence are indeed big stories but as an opion piece in the Courier Mail states, Costello was ‘hounded down’ by the AFL and journos alike for his opinion on AFL players.
There seems to be a pandora’s box no one is willing to open. But it’s a different story if they are NRL players.
Did anyone see the 7.30 report with David Gallop? The host actually brought the Peter Costello article into question and aligned it with the NRL but no mention of the AFL. David Gallop is a gentleman and accepts these loaded interviews, especially by the ABC but I don’t see Vlad afforded the same drilling.
March 11th 2011 @ 11:46am
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:46am | Report comment
“Costello was ‘hounded down’ by the AFL and journos alike for his opinion on AFL players.”
Really.
The AFL commented Costello is entitled to his opinion. you are precious.
The AGE (vic media) published his column and then published a second column.
Costello generalised.
March 11th 2011 @ 12:44pm
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 12:44pm | Report comment
Just stick Costello & AFL into a google search. In two seconds I found the AFL website “Costello, what are you thinking?” http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=107924
March 11th 2011 @ 1:47pm
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
So Costello’s comments are above criticism?
We have free speech for and against in this country.
March 11th 2011 @ 2:37pm
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
@ Redb. First you claimed against the suggestion that AFL hounded down Costello and then when confronted with evidence that shows it to be so you then suggest posts here are against free speech. You’ve got a good sidestep going there.
March 11th 2011 @ 2:44pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 11th 2011 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
Costello’s argument was ridiculous, both the AFL and the AFLPA (especially the latter) responded.
What’s your point?
March 11th 2011 @ 2:48pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 11th 2011 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
The AFLPA was right to resile against this quote from Costello:
“Any right-thinking parent would quake with fear to think footballers were coming to their daughter’s school to give a little bit of inspiration.”
It’s completely out of whack with the hundreds upon hundreds of school visits AFL players do on an annual basis.
Furthermore, the “fact” that this quote is likely to be alluding to in fact turned out to be false and a complete fabrication (along with subsequent “facts”).
Once we establish that the central “fact” giving rise to the observation is a fabrication – what are we left with?
March 11th 2011 @ 2:54pm
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 2:54pm | Report comment
One or two articles opposing his view is not hounded. The fact is Costello made some poor generalisations which deserved to be challenged.
You are yet to provide evidence of hounding.
March 11th 2011 @ 4:12pm
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
Sure Redb. One of two stories condemning Costello. How about all of these http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1436&bih=699&q=costello+afl&aq=f&aqi=g5g-s1g1g-s2g1&aql=&oq=
Redb also said “The NRL ‘mob’ havent been shy in commenting and sticking the boot in on Carey, Cousins, Fevola”.
Please give for us all Redb a link to prove this assertion that you made.
March 11th 2011 @ 4:27pm
Geoff Lemon said | March 11th 2011 @ 4:27pm | Report comment
Jake – first, what on earth does “hounded down” mean?
Second, how is it inappropriate for the AFL or the players’ association to disagree when a (high-profile, eminent) person says that parents should be afraid of all footballers? Should they say nothing at all? It was a pretty poorly thought-out generalisation.
Third, if we live in a society where providing ‘a link’ is the only evidence required to support any argument, we’re in strife.
Re the general tone of this thread, most of the journos putting the boot into AFL players are AFL journos. Most of the NRL critics are league journos. They know that’s what pulls viewers and sells papers. Feeling aggrieved that the other code is somehow behind the criticism is ridiculous.
March 11th 2011 @ 5:12pm
cenrebet said | March 11th 2011 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
“Most NRL critics are league journos…”
How many league articles has Patrick Smith written when there is no current controversy in rugby league? Zip. And I would have thought a an internet link in the age of the internet is the best form of evidence …on an internet forum
March 11th 2011 @ 5:38pm
Jake said | March 11th 2011 @ 5:38pm | Report comment
Geoff it was Matt S who used ‘hounded down’ but it obviously was a reference to the AFL industry reacting strongly to Costello. Redb denied that the AFL industry had responded with that level of angst against Costello when it is obvious that wasn’t right.
March 11th 2011 @ 5:38pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 5:38pm | Report comment
One only has to look at the number of AFL journos on ABC’s Offsiders who make sure NRL scandals are at the forefront of public ‘disgust’. Add, Patrick Smith, there are enough AFL journos who put the boot into the NRL.
I will comment that Patrick Smith has mellowed toward rugby league in the last year or two and I think he had an epitome when he realised that the AFL was not as sanctimonious as he or others had portrayed.
March 11th 2011 @ 5:43pm
Koops said | March 11th 2011 @ 5:43pm | Report comment
I find all this talk of anti-NRL journos amusing, how about posting a recent anti-NRL article.
March 11th 2011 @ 6:11pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:11pm | Report comment
Well unfortunately transcripts aren’t too easy to obtain from TV programs but surely you have watched Offsiders?
March 11th 2011 @ 6:12pm
Geoff Lemon said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:12pm | Report comment
Cenrebet, I could post links that tell you the universe revolves around the earth, or that Obama isn’t really a secret Muslim because he’s actually in league with the Jews. (Not rugby league, obviously, although I hear he’s a Raiders fan.) Just because it’s online doesn’t make it true. And there is still some information out there in the world that isn’t on the internet. Just saying.
And more generally, this curious perception that NRL gets a harder time than AFL is not based in reality. The papers down south are all over AFL players – Tom Scully farts in a lift and it’ll be back page of the Herald-Sun. They’ve nothing else to write about. Even the occasional league ‘scandal’ rates far less of a mention than it does in the Telegraph, where I recently read about six pages of content on Todd Carney’s drinking charge in one Sunday paper.
March 11th 2011 @ 6:17pm
Koops said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:17pm | Report comment
@ Matt S, I have to say, i have only watched a couple of episodes (offsiders) , and TBH did not find it one way or the other.
But if you have any recent anti-NRL articles (press) put them up, because i have not read any lately, and i am talking a couple of years, i think this anti-NRL bias from AFL journos is way out of proportion to reality, the way some RL fans go on, means there must be one every day coming off the press.
I will stand corrected, please post them if you can find them.
March 11th 2011 @ 6:22pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:22pm | Report comment
Though Caroline Wilson does have her regular anti NRL rants on her blogs:
Twitter / Caroline Wilson: This contemptible #NRL bet …
This contemptible #NRL betting scandal is another nail in the coffin for the increasingly irrelevant sport.
twitter.com/CarolineWilson_/status/43144570875297792
So can you explain why a Melbourne based AFL journo would describe rugby league as an “increasingly irrelevant sport” ? As I am a subscriber to The Australian, you just have to trust me on Patrick Smith’s extreme anti rugby league articles (though he has mellowed of late, as previously mentioned)
March 11th 2011 @ 6:30pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:30pm | Report comment
Interesting most of Smith’s The Australian articles are no longer available but this was one of his most anti league famous quotes:
“Anybody who dares suggest that rugby league is not a culture to despise, then they are just as stupid and boorish as the offending players” – Patrick Smith …
This was only in the last couple of years. Find me one league journo that has questioned the AFL’s very existence or culture?
March 11th 2011 @ 6:35pm
Koops said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
@Matt S, links and context please, and of course the age of the articles.
Not having a go, but the DM from Sydney has declared war on the AFL about 15 times in the last 2 years.
Swings and round-a-bouts ?.
March 11th 2011 @ 6:52pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:52pm | Report comment
Koops I’ve tried to get the articles but links not working anymore. Just google Patrick Smith or Caroline Wilson + NRL and you will atleast see these highlighted quotes as you go along.
Added, these declarations of war with the AFL in Western Sydney, please show me an article attacking AFL’s culture, irrevelance etc. I think you will find these articles are pre-occupied by the AFL’s war chest etc but no attack on the game itself, its rules, its culture etc. However, you will find these elements when written about rugby league. FACT.
March 12th 2011 @ 10:10am
Redb said | March 12th 2011 @ 10:10am | Report comment
Matt S, I suggest you read the bio of any twitter account first. Its a fake Caro Wilson account designed to elicit the exact response it has. Come in spinner.
Thanks to Geoff Lemon for making the point far better than I could.
March 11th 2011 @ 11:42pm
Fake ex-AFL fan said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:42pm | Report comment
Matt
FYI, that Caroline Wilson twitter account you are quoting is fake, someone’s idea of a joke at the real Caro’s expense. Read the full list of tweets and this will become clear.
The bio for the account even reads “Not really Caroline Wilson or AFL’s First Lady but the twitter account we wish she had”.
So I think it’s fair to say your use of Internet-based research has let you down in this instance.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:17am
DB said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:17am | Report comment
Marxism?
March 11th 2011 @ 9:23am
Art Sapphire said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Read all about it. Chris Judd caught reading “Das Kapital”.
AFL to hold urgent meeting to decide punishment.
March 11th 2011 @ 3:14pm
Rob McLean said | March 11th 2011 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
I heard they sentenced him to watching 20 hours of Good News Week, with Paul McDermott.
June 7th 2011 @ 10:41am
merry said | June 7th 2011 @ 10:41am | Report comment
hi hows it going!
March 11th 2011 @ 11:11am
PaddyBoy said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:11am | Report comment
The whole AFL and many NRL teams are owned by member communally. I smell a Soviet plot.
March 11th 2011 @ 12:08pm
itsuckstobeyou said | March 11th 2011 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
I you’re asking which incident Marxism refers to, I’m referring to the player revolt at the Brumbies. If you’re asking what Marxism is…. you’re asking the wrong dude.
March 11th 2011 @ 4:19pm
jmo said | March 11th 2011 @ 4:19pm | Report comment
if the players start staying back late to plough the training paddock look out coach!
March 11th 2011 @ 6:28pm
NF said | March 11th 2011 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
I find it hilarious when Caroline Wilson talks about ‘irrelevant’ sport to some sports fan they see AFL as the irrelevant sport only played in Australia and nowhere else. Just saying.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:36am
Redb said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Good article.
Ch 9 and the Herald Sun exploited Fevola’s Crown expedition to the max.
The Herald Sun headline screamed “Fevola booted from Crown” – the story then explains he was politely asked to leave and he quietly left the casino. Hardly ‘booted’ or thrown out.
March 11th 2011 @ 10:04am
betamax said | March 11th 2011 @ 10:04am | Report comment
So the players have nothing to do with their own downfall? It’s all the fault of those sneaky jobsworth pencil-necked journos?
Danny Weidler, one of the few RL journos I respect, has a point. I suppose the difference is people like Carney are propped up by their clubs as role models, whereas the journos have a long history of being layabout drunks and merchants of double standards.
March 11th 2011 @ 4:11pm
peeeko said | March 11th 2011 @ 4:11pm | Report comment
good point but i am worried that you think that Weidler is worthy of respect. his “column” in the sun herald is generally just puff pieces about his mates mundine,SBW, matt rogers etc
March 11th 2011 @ 11:26am
Rob McLean said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:26am | Report comment
“journalists can’t sleep at night, so they are compelled to do such things”
Classic.
I’ve been mulling over this role model thing for a few weeks. When exactly does a sportsman become a role model?
March 11th 2011 @ 12:31pm
cenrebet said | March 11th 2011 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
When they make money from playing a game? When they come to your school and tell you to study hard? When a kid puts a poster of them on their wall?
No real answer to that question is there Rob ha ha ha.
My feeling is that anyone can essentially be a role model, and if I was a coach/C.E.O that’s what I would tell my players.
Everyone has a choice to be a good role model, or a bad role model, based on the things you do. Being a good role model might be important to some players, not at all important to others, but players can be assured of one thing…people will be watching. It’s their choice I guess.
March 11th 2011 @ 8:47pm
jamesb said | March 11th 2011 @ 8:47pm | Report comment
then again Centrebet, kids have posters on the wall of rock or pop stars.
Do you think those rock, or pop stars along with movie stars be role models?
March 11th 2011 @ 7:26pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 7:26pm | Report comment
Code wars, in the context of a rugby league supporter, has been around for a century when rugby union orchestrated a calculated attack of the sport from denigrating the people who follow or play it to minimalizing its expansion via bans etc.
Unfortunately, in hand with the expansion of AFL, we have seen a similar phenononem occur again here in QLD & NSW. The AFL has come up against a resilient beast in league/NRL, thus it is beneficial to attack a scandal and blame the very heart of the game. This opens the hypocrisy of the rival sport but with a compliant media, it has got away with it so far. Above examples in previous posts highlight just two of many AFL journalists who have attacked the very being of a sport. I clearly remember when living in Melbourne, the Green TV guide in The Age (Warriors v Roosters 04 GF) stating “if you have nothing better to watch or desperate then there is the Neanderthal GF of the NRL” .
AFL has also followed the union book of blocking a rival by ensuring every fiber of that sport’s old boy networks is used to keep the NRL off commercial TV.
As Caroline Wilson quotes rugby league is an “increasingly irrelevant sport” then why was the Storm’s salary cap scandal, for example, made front page news of both Melbourne papers? Again, the specter of code war is at play. A dirty one at that.
Anyway, I am thankful the rugby league media do not stoop to name calling, questioning a sport’s culture etc. For a sport that has suffered that indignation for too long, we can rise above that. Rugby league has prospered not by having the biggest private school old boy network nor trying to protect one’s turf through low acts but having a game that simply appeals. Unfortunately money is coming more into play for one’s survival and this is something rugby league simply needs to get into and compete.
But league people have been apart of communities that are very varied and that has been in the sport’s favour. AFL haven’t.
A good example is Matt Astill, owner of The Australian Bar in New York and president of the New York Rugby League club is seen today with Julia Gillard and surprise surprise, she is signing AFL jumpers (again) in his bar raising funds for local AFL USA clubs.
Coincidently, after the 7.30 report with David Gallop the poor bloke is now on the 6pm news on Ten being grilled about scandals as if this is a rugby league only responsibility.
March 11th 2011 @ 7:44pm
NF said | March 11th 2011 @ 7:44pm | Report comment
It is getting annoying that fact the people perceive scandal=rugby league only while dismissing majority of the scandals that has happen in the afl, and other sports. Personally, League gets a greater grilling whenever a scandal happens compare to AFL who can smartly distance themselves from the situation and say it’s the individual problem yet it is perceived as a ‘culture’ problem whenever a league one occurs. Double standards as far as I’m concerned both need to be grilled equally whenever one occurs the imbalance is not on.
March 12th 2011 @ 10:19am
Redb said | March 12th 2011 @ 10:19am | Report comment
NF,
I suggest you read Geoff Lemon’s comment above.
AFL players get pillored in the Melb press just as much, the differemce may lie in how they Sydney media choose to spike interest by relying on the defensive siege mentality of rugby league fans.
News Ltd know how this works, RL fans will rally for the game when it is being attacked, sells papers, drives interest.
AFL fans dont have the same siege mentality so its no good telling us the game is stuffed or going to die becuase we would see it as the over reaction it is. Or that people recognise that Peter Costello and his generalisations are not correct.
The crowds at AFL games an obvious point of strength and support. Try telling Collingwood fans the game is dying or all AFL players are scum just as they sign up their 60,000th member. There are bad eggs in AFL but people know the majority are good people.
March 12th 2011 @ 10:55am
betamax said | March 12th 2011 @ 10:55am | Report comment
Redb. I think you will find this so called “siege mentality” exists largely in the pages of the Terrorgraph and a small percentage of its less mentality stable readership. The majority of the RL supporting public don’t buy it. It’s easy to form this perception from afar, but the reality is quite different.
March 11th 2011 @ 8:12pm
itsuckstobeyou said | March 11th 2011 @ 8:12pm | Report comment
The point of the article was to stop grilling athletes about their personal lives all together. I can’t believe you’re arguing about which code is the least fairly treated. You all sound like absolute twirps, defending your state’s journalists over the others.
The journalists are the scandal. Not the bloke who spent 5 minutes in a casino. Not the bloke who wasn’t in a gang bang in NZ.
And no, I’m not providing a bloody link to support my case.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:22pm
Rob McLean said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:22pm | Report comment
Itsucks, I love your post.
March 11th 2011 @ 11:43pm
Sylvester Hyde said | March 11th 2011 @ 11:43pm | Report comment
My views are:
1. People read the stories, which justifies them being written from the media’s point of view. I liken it to the outrage from people about the paparazzi hounding Princess Di to her death – the same people who buy the gossip mags in which those photos are printed.
2. Sports stars, and all other “famous” people, know the deal that comes along with the big bucks and adulation. If they preferred to be unknown, they’d be taxi drivers, bricklayers or office workers. I’m not saying it’s right, but it’s reality.
3. They become “role models” when people to buy into their image through the pedalling of sports drinks, clothing, video games etc.
4. They can choose to keep out of trouble if they want. No-one forces them to assault people , drink-drive, etc.
March 12th 2011 @ 1:14am
itsuckstobeyou said | March 12th 2011 @ 1:14am | Report comment
1. So it’s ok to publish stories based completely on lies so long as people read it? Fan-bloody-tastic! My Gillard-Abbott-Hanson Love Triangle piece can finally be published!
2. You’re right, it is a reality and it’s not right. And it is a reality because people swallow everything the media feed you completely whole, without chewing it and without even lookin at it. When you’ve finished ogling the St Kilda photos, I want you to think about whether they were really published in the public interest, or just published to sell papers.
3. My daughter’s role model is her teacher and she has no corporate affilliations. Try again.
4. Yes they can choose to keep out of trouble and let’s hope they all do. But when they don’t make that choice, or that choice is made for them, it’s none of your business. I got laid in a toilet cubicle once and I didn’t even make the gossip pages. If I play football, it is your business?
5. Yep, I created an extra point. Look mate, I’m sure you’re a nice bloke but you appear to accept everything you’re told without question. You accept that these intrusive reports are your business because the media tells you it’s in your interest; because that’s in their interest. Forget everything you’ve heard from the journos and the team from The Back Page, take a step back and think; is all this trash really in the public interest? Should these guys really lose their career over 10 minutes at a casino?
No they shouldn’t. And given we now have blokes slitting their wrists, I think it’s time we change the way we do things with regards to the amount of pressure we are putting on these boys.
March 11th 2011 @ 8:16pm
Twatter said | March 11th 2011 @ 8:16pm | Report comment
This article raises some valid points do i need to know about a trist in a toilet.
But every sport nowadays and their respective media’s proclaim this is the sport for you’re child to play and no other sport comes close ,i may be missing the boat but shouldn’t high profile sports people who are going to walk away from their respective sports at say 34 with no mortgage (at least $500,000 for ten years) give something back to their sport in that i meen a certain level of social respectability.
Should players be out drinking after a game till 2-3 am what good can come of that, some will say their just doing what other people their age are doing, but other people pay of a mortgage at 45-55 years of age.
I just think players should give the game something in return instead of nothing but constant angst for there governing bodies.
That the jist of this story is the media are sleasy well the sunrises in the east it’s something we already no.
March 11th 2011 @ 8:39pm
itsuckstobeyou said | March 11th 2011 @ 8:39pm | Report comment
So if you have a mortgage, you can stay out all night, but if you’ve paid it before your 45 you must be home by midnight?
Dynamite point there champ.
March 11th 2011 @ 10:14pm
Twatter said | March 11th 2011 @ 10:14pm | Report comment
itsuckstobeyou.
You’ve missed my point sporting bodies and the media work hand in glove , a sportsmen doesn’t matter what code, on one hand cant go and clean the mouth of a geriatric (that magic photo op) then shoot off too a local public school to teach the kids how to resuscitate a person with a mannequin.
Then the sportsperson then complains about being caught with banned substances , involved in a late night incident involving alcohol , promiscuity, family breakdowns and so on .
Perhaps this article should have been about how sporting bodies and the media both portray and image that young men can simply not sustain in todays world.
March 12th 2011 @ 12:38am
itsuckstobeyou said | March 12th 2011 @ 12:38am | Report comment
Yes mate, I did miss your point, because you didn’t make it. I read your first comment and your second one and they have nothing in common.
With regards to your advice about what my article should have been about, how about:
“The media have created a self-sustaining news mine. They tell us that our athletes have to be perfect. When they inevitably aren’t, they and their club are put under the microscope.”
or:
“This raises the expectations on players to even more impossible levels of perfection.”
Mate, what did you think this article was about?
In fact, don’t answer that. Just go to bed. You’re an idiot.
March 12th 2011 @ 1:10am
The Bush said | March 12th 2011 @ 1:10am | Report comment
Abusing people who’ve taken the time to read and respond to your article, dynamite attitude there champ…
I agree that athletes shouldn’t be held up as role models, and I agree that we don’t need to hear about consensual sex in a toilet (or even a gang bang). Journalist and their editors (and their bosses) certainly contribute to the hysteria.
However, as Old Mate above has pointed out, surely these blokes, earning that much money, and with opportunities the rest of us can old dream about could fork out for a cab and thus not drink drive. Is that really to much to expect from someone well into their 20′s?
March 12th 2011 @ 1:15am
Twatter said | March 12th 2011 @ 1:15am | Report comment
itsuckstobeyou.
I’ve just gone back and read you’re first paragraph and to quote you,the assualt charges, the drink driving,spot betting, public urination, public defacation, racism i’ll leave it at that, though these sporting bodies and clubs want the media there in the childrens cancer ward to collect those special memories dont they , son you cant have it both ways ,you cant have the media in when you feel it’s appropriate and out when somebody gets done for drink driving or assault or alleged rape. Thats the point of your column you want the media out when it doesn’t start looking good for a sportsmen publicly. Youre looking at an unrealistic approach to profesisonal sport, thats what it is isn’t it professional .Mate i’ve read the bloggers comments here 80% of people agree with me.You’re not a player agent are you.You’re a di##head.
March 12th 2011 @ 1:21am
itsuckstobeyou said | March 12th 2011 @ 1:21am | Report comment
Gents, excuse me if I was abusive, my Brumbies got belted tonight.
March 11th 2011 @ 8:59pm
Matt S said | March 11th 2011 @ 8:59pm | Report comment
King Wally mentions the A-league final on Sunday smack bang in the Broncos v Cowboys coverage on Nine now. No hang ups just a proud QLDer cheering for a QLD team no matter what code! See that at the AFL?
March 11th 2011 @ 9:24pm
Rob McLean said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:24pm | Report comment
Apples and pears Matt…do league commentators champion the Lions’ cause? I’m not sure but why would they?
The A League would be the lesser of two evils as far as King Wally is concerned.
March 12th 2011 @ 7:16pm
punter said | March 12th 2011 @ 7:16pm | Report comment
The AFL is a niche sport in Queensland. I don’t think King Wally would be too concerned.
March 12th 2011 @ 7:33pm
Koops said | March 12th 2011 @ 7:33pm | Report comment
Very healthy niche, a sport such as la crosse, badminton or even volleyball would be what i term niche.
Across Brisbane/GC this year, there will be 93 senior mens teams across 7 divisions, 5 will have reserves, include another 35 to 40 under 18 teams, and you have a very healthy Australian football niche.
March 13th 2011 @ 12:57am
punter said | March 13th 2011 @ 12:57am | Report comment
Football (the world game) has 10 times this amount & it would be regarded a niche sport in Queensland.
March 11th 2011 @ 9:27pm
MyLeftFoot said | March 11th 2011 @ 9:27pm | Report comment
Probably.
Let me say that no one did more to assist the FFA in trying to bring the World Cup to Australia than the AFL.
March 11th 2011 @ 10:00pm
jamesb said | March 11th 2011 @ 10:00pm | Report comment
That world cup bid was soooooooooooo 2010. Move on!
Rock on as David Essex would say to 2011.