An uneven AFL season or more of the same?
By Andrew Leonard, 18 Mar 2011 Andrew Leonard is a Roar Pro
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Darren Jolly of Collingwood celebrates a goal during the 2010 Toyota AFL Grand Final replay between the Collingwood Magpies and the St Kilda Saints at the MCG, Melbourne. Slattery Images
This coming 2011 AFL season has an uneven look about it in more ways than one. With at least one team not having a game most weeks, and more than half the competition to miss out on finals for the first time since 1993, there are elements of the unknown that make predictions a challenge.
The interesting question was asked by Mick Malthouse after Collingwood won the replayed grand final against St Kilda last year; if the ball had bounced into Stephen Milne’s path and he kicked a goal, would the Saints be favourites this year?
There has to be some truth in that, although only recently the favourites going into 2009 were Geelong, who had lost to Hawthorn the year before.
Despite this Collingwood are my favourites to go back-to-back for the first time since 1935-36 and be premiers in 2011, beating the success starved Western Bulldogs in the big dance.
Picking a wooden spoon winner with a new team in the competition should be straightforward, although poor form in the pre-season from the neighbour’s of the debutant Gold Coast Suns has many pundits suggesting that Brisbane Lions are set to claim the dreaded wooden spoon.
I disagree, however.
Brisbane should win more games than the Gold Coast this year. The spoon will be a tight battle, though, and unfortunately for the AFL the bottom four will all originate from outside of Victoria.
The Suns are still very young and will tire throughout a long season, but I think that Port Adelaide might challenge them for the spoon.
The Brownlow medalist will come from the premier’s, although it won’t be Dane Swan. Scott Pendlebury will beat Gary Ablett.
The makeup of the finals is tricky. Invariably a team or two will drop out as teams that have missed in recent years put it all together.
I have tipped Sydney, under a new coach (John Longmire), to be the ones to take time to adjust.
Normally one to ignore pre-season form, we must acknowledge Essendon, who did beat some good sides last year including two of the top four. They can’t be as bad as they were at times last season, and if James Hird does more than provide the inspiration of a club legend and manages to tighten the Bomber defence, then I can see them sneaking into the eight. It’s a big punt.
North Melbourne showed more than the Bombers last year and I have them delivering about the same as 2010, a ninth place finish, just missing out on eighth to Essendon.
We forgot how quickly the fall can be sometimes for top sides when they have run high for so long – think Brisbane, West Coast and Port Adelaide this past decade and even Hawthorn in 2009 after a premiership the year before.
Whilst I don’t see Geelong or St Kilda missing the finals, I don’t feel they are the sure things for the top four like many other pundits have them. Geelong will be worst hit and take seventh, with St Kilda dropping to fifth.
Geelong won’t have to travel far in their first final and I have them playing a side that has troubled them in recent years in week one of the finals. Carlton will earn a home final this year and are a big chance to get the finals win that Brett Ratten needs to ensure a contract for 2012.
That leaves Fremantle as the sole non-Victorian club in the finals of a national competition. Only five seasons ago we witnessed all the non-Victorian clubs in the finals.
Despite their poor preseason form, I think Freo can sneak into the four. If that happens then second spot and the potential of two home finals with one the preliminary is not out of the question.
However, the obvious scenario for the Dockers is a first up final against the Pies at the ‘G. The resurgence of Hawthorn that many are expecting is the unknown.
But, let’s face it, the Hawks have match-winners everywhere. A third place finish will scare a few, none more so than Collingwood.
Beating them to second, however, will be the Western Bulldogs. I have tipped them to make the grand final and to do this second spot seems the most likely launching pad.
The Magpies are favourites for the flag and whilst it’s easy to pick the favourites to finish on top, they showed last year with a first minor premiership since 1979, that they perform enough over the season to claim top spot after 22 games again.
The dangers for me are Adelaide and Sydney, who for no reason other than a change of coach and losses of older star veterans, have not come into consideration.
So, here is my ladder with the odds for a finals berth in brackets next to the team. Let me know your thoughts.
1. Collingwood [Top 8 – $1.05]
2. Western Bulldogs [$1.30]
3. Hawthorn [$1.25]
4. Fremantle [$1.65]
5. St Kilda [$1.22]
6. Carlton [$1.65]
7. Geelong [$1.33]
8. Essendon [$2.60]
9. North Melbourne [$3.25]
10. Adelaide [$1.80]
11. Sydney [$1.95]
12. Melbourne [$1.80]
13. West Coast [$5.25]
14. Richmond [$3.50]
15. Brisbane[$5.00]
16. Gold Coast [$7.50]
17. Port Adelaide [$5.50]
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March 18th 2011 @ 10:18am
MyLeftFoot said | March 18th 2011 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Many pundits have picked the bullies to not even make the eight.
I don’t know, but I’ll say what everyone else is saying: Collingwood is the team to beat.
March 18th 2011 @ 12:21pm
GrantS said | March 18th 2011 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
I have to agree with MLF. Now that Collingwood have Krakouer and Dawes I think they are a 6 goal better team than last year. That doesn’t mean they will have six more shots at goal just that six of their shots will be goals instead of points. (A terrible thought for we supporters of other teams.)
My Top 8.
1. Collingwood
2. St. Kilda
3. Hawthorn
4. Geelong
5. Western Bulldogs
6. Fremantle
7. Swans
8. Essendon
March 18th 2011 @ 1:49pm
Andrew Leonard said | March 18th 2011 @ 1:49pm | Report comment
GrantS – almost the same 8 teams. only difference I almost had the swans for Essendon and not Carlton.
No Carlton in the 8 , doe that leave Ratten to be sacked before the end of the year?
March 18th 2011 @ 6:41pm
GrantS said | March 18th 2011 @ 6:41pm | Report comment
Andrew I would say that if Carlton do not make the eight they will be looking for a new coach.
To my way of thinking there could be a few clubs looking for new coaches at the end of this season. (And Mick Malthouse is going to play marbles on his own ?…. I don’t think so!)
March 18th 2011 @ 3:30pm
Redb said | March 18th 2011 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
That is my Top 8 as well, not necessarily in the same order, but those 8 teams.
March 18th 2011 @ 4:38pm
KickIt2Duck said | March 18th 2011 @ 4:38pm | Report comment
Collingwood
Hawthorn
St Kilda
Geelong
Doggies
North
Adelaide
Fremantle
granted, Kirk gone, the Swans may gain an extra half a midfielder with someone in there who can run and kick. I have them just missing.
Essendon will struggle to see out the full season.
Adelaide began a re-invention last year. Jacobs will be a big boost.
North will surprise with no Hale stuffing up the forward structures, and Petrie and Liam Anthony back. Goldstein starting the year as number 1 ruck will actually be beneficial.
March 18th 2011 @ 5:36pm
APOC said | March 18th 2011 @ 5:36pm | Report comment
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March 18th 2011 @ 7:34pm
Trev said | March 18th 2011 @ 7:34pm | Report comment
1. Pies
2. Dogs
3. St.K
4. Swans
5. Gee
6. Hawks
7. Freo
8. Dees
March 18th 2011 @ 8:30pm
TCunbeliever said | March 18th 2011 @ 8:30pm | Report comment
Collingwood
Fremantle
Bulldogs
Hawks
Geelong
Sydney
Adelaide
St Kilda
Essendon
Carlton
Kangaroos
Brisbane
Richmond
Port
Melbourne
Eagles
Suns
June 24th 2011 @ 1:48pm
Jesse Welsh said | June 24th 2011 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
get lost WCE will finish fitfh mate….
March 18th 2011 @ 10:21pm
woodsman said | March 18th 2011 @ 10:21pm | Report comment
I made the same ‘what if’ arguement about Collingwood last year when people were suggesting they had no stand-out talent or elite players (around round 16-20 as they suddenly seemed to develop a favourites tag)- had the 2007 preliminary final not included an immaculate smother on Dale Thomas as he was streaming to goal 1 point up, Collingwood would have been the favourites over several seasons since then.. Steven Milne bounce blah blah- had he been rightly pinged for both hands in the back of Harry O’Brien before his goal five minutes before the Saints wouldn’t have been within cooey. Theres a thousand ‘what ifs’ in any season. Riedwoldts knee, Hawthorn’s injuries, Adelaide’s pre-season, Geelong not having a captain/coach crisis.. I don’t want to take anything away from the Saints, they had a great season. Thoroughly deserved their Grand Final showing but did not play like a Premier team in either final. That more than anything else is why they arent favourites now and neither should Hawthorn be considered until they prove themselves on the field in a match that means something.
March 18th 2011 @ 11:00pm
Australian Football: Central Coast Represent said | March 18th 2011 @ 11:00pm | Report comment
Everyone is underestimating the mighty swannies but i’d prefer it that way anyway.
i seem to recore both grand finals going into them underdogs, going into the 05′ season tipped for the woodern spoon???
its alright the swans are prehaps the most consisted team of the last 10 years, and we aint stopping there, we’re only just warming up, my tip top 4 or definately top 8, if you got the swannies out of the 8 this year your mad.
1st – Collingwood
2nd – St. Kilda
3rd – Hawthorn
4th – Sydney
5th – Fremantle
6th – Bulldogs
7th – Geelong
8th – Carlton
9th – Melbourne
10th – Adelaide
11th – Port Adelaide
12th – Essendon
13th – North Melbourne
14th – Richmond
15th – Gold Coast
16th – Brisbane
17th – West Coast
June 24th 2011 @ 1:47pm
Jesse Welsh said | June 24th 2011 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
okk for a start everyone is underestimating WCE here, We have shuey, cox, naitunui, Glass, Hurn, Kerr, Kennedy, Darling and Lecras…. I think Stkildas time has come and im predicting them to finish 11th… Heres My Ladder..
1st – Geelong
2nd – Collingwood
3rd – Carlton
4th – Hawthorn
5th- Sydney
6th- Wce
7th- Essendon
8th – North
9th- Bulldogs
10th – Melbourne
11th – Saints
12th – Port Adelaide
13th – Adelaide
14th – Gold Coast
15th – Brisbane
16th – Richmond…