Determined to find positives amongst Super Rugby woes
By Brett McKay, 29 Mar 2011 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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I understand the need to let off steam on these forums from time to time, and I’ve certainly been guilty of spleen venting myself. Generally speaking, however, I find constant negative press and commentary to be a tad depressing.
So for this weekend just gone, I set myself a challenge: I am only going to talk about the positive from the Aussies, and I’ll challenge the discussion following to follow suit.
Fortunately, my timing for such a challenge was pretty good
The Rebels kicked off my love-in weekend on Friday night, and as the Hurricanes raced out to a 17-0 lead, I was genuinely concerned that my sum total of positive notes for the new boys was going to be “scrum strong and holding shape very well,” and “Nick Phipps’ passing is crisp, flat, and generally quick.”
Twenty minutes into the game though, something clicked. The Rebels’ multi-national backrow of Welshman Gareth Delve, Englishman Michael Lipman and South African Jarrod Saffy began working the breakdown and the tackle area as a unit, and this in turn began producing the odd turnover, and with it came momentum.
Some vintage Stirling Mortlock tackle-busting and a free arm saw Lipman cross for the Rebels’ third try, and then right on the half, Danny Cipriani slotted a magnificent penalty from halfway, which he faded beautifully inside the right-hand upright.
Come the second half, the Rebels kicked up a gear and rolled on.
Phipps, Cipriani and scrumhalf cum fullback Richard Kingi sparked the attack, before more excellent ruck phase work saw lock Al Campbell snare his second try. Cooper Vuna unleashed an old fashioned ‘Maori sidestep’ to score after a great break from Phipps and Mortlock. A boilover was well and truly on, and my tip was gone.
Most impressively though, the Rebels’ scrambling defence was excellent as the ‘Canes staged a belated fightback late in the game, only for a late Phipps try after Kingi made the break chiming into the backline from a scrum feed.
The Rebels were home, and in the process proved they’ll be a handful for all teams visiting the Victorian capital.
Saturday afternoon saw the Reds hosting the giant-killing Cheetahs, and wasn’t it brilliant to see rugby played in radiant sunshine again. May there be more of it, though visiting teams might argue about playing in the early-season Brisbane warmth.
From the outset, the Reds looked in control and it was really just a matter of when the Cheetahs opened up. Whenever the first tackle was broken, the ball carrier was blessed with options, as red-jerseyed bodies in motion popped up everywhere.
The Reds defence was impressive too, and former Waratah Beau Robinson was all over the breakdown contest. Robinson’s off-season gamble to relocate to Brisbane has quickly become the feel-good story of the year, and it’s hard to see anyone else wearing the red no.7 in 2011.
However, the Reds had also learnt from the mistakes of the Waratahs the week before, and it was obvious that they had a plan to attack by first going wide, and then bringing the wide runners back on the inside.
Digby Ioane was a regular benefactor, and whenever Quade Cooper drifted left, you could see the gap Ioane was about to motor through open up inside.
The best part about this plan though, was that it somewhat removed the Cheetahs head pilferer Heinrich Brussow from the equation, and he wasn’t able to inflict on the Reds anywhere near the breakdown carnage he dished out on the Tahs. It was smart coaching, and even better execution.
The positives for Queensland were everywhere, and it’s hard to think of anyone who didn’t play well. James Horwill was strong in his 60-minute comeback, and James Slipper was very good around the park too. The Reds are a deserved Australian conference leader, and scarily, they still have some room for improvement.
Saturday night saw the return bout of one of last year’s least interesting games, where the Brumbies and Waratahs played out a local derby snooze fest.
Happily, this year’s first encounter of these teams was nothing like the 2010 version, though I couldn’t help notice descriptions over the weekend describing the match as “uninspiring”, and even the great David Lord had Wallaby coach Robbie Deans frowning as the Brumbies and ‘Tahs failed to play “the attacking rugby that makes them a joy to watch.”
Maybe it was my positive motivation over the weekend, but I found the game quite entertaining actually, even one of the better derbies played between these teams in recent years. And though the execution wasn’t always brilliant, both teams chanced their arms more as the game went on.
That was certainly a positive.
The Brumbies, finally, looked more like a rugby team and less like 15 blokes awkwardly wearing the same outfit. From kick returns and in broken play especially, the Brumbies looked quite dangerous, and it was this unstructured play that troubled the Waratahs impressive defence the most.
Matt Giteau and Christian Lealiifano combined well as a 10-12 pairing, and both were able to make the most of the straight running of Andrew Smith, who admirably filled the understudy role to the injured Pat McCabe.
Most impressively though, the Brumbies were able to make the most of their possession when it counted, and the timely late try to Ben Alexander was the sort that went missing in recent weeks.
Giteau’s pressure conversion, too, was exactly the sort of kick he’s previously been prone to spraying left or right.
But the Tahs got the chocolates, and it was just reward for patience.
Though they went through the game for long periods with little or no ball, they stayed in touch thanks the Kurtley Beale’s goal kicking, and made the most of their opportunities to jag the two tries they did.
Their defence was outstanding all night, highlighted no better than the ten minutes Tom carter spent in the sin bin, where they Waratahs conceded just the one penalty goal.
It’s clear the Tahs are employing a dual flyhalfs attacking system – not to be confused with the New Zealand first- and second-five eighths setup – where Berrick Barnes provides the direction, and Beale the spark and spontaneity while slotting into the backline between the two centres.
In the end, the Waratahs did what they had to do win the game, and that was something that was lacking the week before against the Cheetahs, where they seemed to play as if they just had to turn up to win.
The Cheetahs debacle was obviously just a hiccup; the Tahs will still be there or thereabouts come finals time.
The final Australian game of the weekend had the Western Force taking on the Stormers in Cape Town, and unfortunately for my positive outlook weekend, not to mention Nathan Sharpe’s record-breaking efforts, they found themselves on the end of a NSW election-esque thrashing.
There was still one positive though (two if we acknowledge Sharpe’s record) and that is the continued excellent form of James O’Connor at flyhalf. Perhaps inspired by Stormer Peter Grant’s recent sole-scorer run, his cracking try, conversion, and three penalties would be all his side would post for the night.
I never imagined saying this previously, but it seems O’Connor is mounting a pretty irresistible case for higher honours at No.10. It’s certainly nice to know the Wallabies have another option if Quade Cooper was hit by a bus.
So there you have it Roarers, the positives were out there thick and fast over the weekend, and I’ve managed to keep up my end of the bargain.
Question is, can you guys also keep it positive? I do wonder who’ll be the first to crack.
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March 29th 2011 @ 6:27am
sheek said | March 29th 2011 @ 6:27am | Report comment
Good luck Brett!
The “Demetriou calls the kettle black” post has had 400 hits so far, of which about 398 I haven’t read!!!
But it just goes to show that Roarers love controversy & heated verbal jousting above all else…..
I’m in a hurry elsewhere, so it will be interesting to see how Roarers respond to your calls for positiveness.
March 29th 2011 @ 6:47am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 6:47am | Report comment
Sheek, you wouldn’t have missed much, the other 398 would have said something similar to the two you read..
Anyway, onto this topic, I thought it was a good weekend for the Aussie sides, even the Force had their moments, and I just think it’s worth taking the time to discuss what was good for a change.
And so this is at least two comments to tow the line!!
March 29th 2011 @ 1:29pm
JohnB said | March 29th 2011 @ 1:29pm | Report comment
Sorry mate, toe the line. Does that count as negative?!
March 29th 2011 @ 1:36pm
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
probably JB, but I could perhaps dismiss it away as a typo and we’d be fine…
March 29th 2011 @ 2:05pm
JohnB said | March 29th 2011 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
So then careless rather than incompetent? Fair enough! Given that tongue in cheek comments are inherently positive, I think we’ve got away with it.
It’s certainly a worthwhile exercise to try to look at the positive for a change. Positives this season – Reds winning, and more players looking worthy Wallaby contenders. Negatives – Australia Television showed the S14 in SE Asia, where I am, last year (as well as the NRL and AFL). This year – it’s wall to wall AFL, no rugby, no NRL.
March 29th 2011 @ 6:49am
P.Tah said | March 29th 2011 @ 6:49am | Report comment
I agree Brett. I’m tired of the negativity in many of the comments (for all sports). I thoroughly enjoyed the rugby on the weekend, so much so it moved me to start writing an article on in. I may post it but it’s actually been cathartic. It reinforced why I enjoy this game so much.
Yours is a great article. Definitely highlights how good the rugby was on the weekend.
March 29th 2011 @ 9:21am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:21am | Report comment
Look forward to reading it PT, don’t hold out on us…
March 29th 2011 @ 7:31am
stillmissit said | March 29th 2011 @ 7:31am | Report comment
I agree we need to look at the positives and stop being negative but Christ! guys the RWC is just around the corner. Is this the time to be calling for patience and wisdom whilst the ship is taking on water,
Oh! was that really an iceberg? Didn’t it look lovely.
March 29th 2011 @ 8:40am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:40am | Report comment
SMI, that’s bordeline, that’s getting close…
March 29th 2011 @ 8:16am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:16am | Report comment
These days, especially where I live, people are far too often failing to see the truth because all they want to hear about is ‘the positives’. People that mention the truth get labelled as being negative.
After a time I can’t stand around listening to the useless chat anymore because I actually need to get on and do something about what needs to be done.
IMHO life is about balance. Good & Bad, Wet & Dy, Happy times & Sad times. So simply adjust, cope with it, don’t look for praise, don’t let criticism get you down, don’t look for excuses and get on with life.
March 29th 2011 @ 8:42am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:42am | Report comment
Blinky skirts around the positives, in the name of truth, but you do make a good point too. And that’s not to say that I don’t know what the truth is, is just that the positives were/are overlooked all too quickly, imho…
March 29th 2011 @ 4:43pm
sheek said | March 29th 2011 @ 4:43pm | Report comment
Brett,
I’m with Blinky & Stillmissit on this.
I know exactly where you’re coming from – you want to talk about positives for a change, because usually there’s too much negativity on The Roar.
But I also believe in calling it like it is. Life isn’t a ‘gimme’, nobody owes us other than treating us with the respect of fellow human beings.
We should all accept personal responsibility for our behaviour – our failures as well as our successes.
March 29th 2011 @ 8:17am
Jack said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:17am | Report comment
The NSW v Briumies game was woeful to watch. Slow ball and offside backs killed the game as entertainment. There were 12 penalties in the first half within kickable range and no yellow cards. NSW were penalised twice early in the second half and then warned, penalised again and then a yellow. That’s nine penalties in the attaching half before a yellow. No wonder there was only 18000 paying customsers (and from the ground it did not look lile 18K). Both teams kicked for goal at every opportunity bar one. I took a a league mate to the game and he asked at the end, “you pay how much for these season tickets?” and he’s a Warrtahs supporter. At one stage Barnes was nading out high fives for a scrum penalty. $55 a ticket Berieck. x 4 for my kids. The refs and the coaches are killing the game. Get the teams onside, yellow cards for slowing the play in attacking positions. Note to Australian coaching brains trust – if you play conservatively against the All Blacks, if you kiick the ball back to them, you lose. Conservative Rugby is a losers plan. Proven over the last 5 years. Super 12 and tests.
March 29th 2011 @ 8:43am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:43am | Report comment
there it is, 6 comments in. Well done Jack…
March 29th 2011 @ 8:37am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:37am | Report comment
I was going to try and take the p!ss and go on about Genia obviously being unfit (cramps) and hungover (porcelain yawn) but it looks like Jack beat me to it with the negativity…only he wasn’t joking.
I’m OS at the moment so I’ve missed a lot of the S15 this year (The Roar has been keeping me sane so thanks to all and sundry) but I did manage to find a pub playing the reds game. And what a game it was. I went to the last couple of games last year and it was like I was watching the same team go round again and I didn’t have the painful first 3 rounds of 2011 to endure. I was really impressed with Genia and Cooper (saw him make some tackles) and especially Ioane. He always looks like a pinball to me. Awesome. I wasn’t quite as impressed with Robinson as others have been, great game sure but I reckon Pocock does that (and better) week in week out. See the positiviy there Brett? Pocock, legend. I also thought Daly did pretty well, despite a couple of scrum penalties against. I thought the Cheetahs’ restarts were particularly good, for QLD.
I was also really impressed with the quick hands that Faingaa showed when Davies went over for his second (I think).
I tell you what after a dismal 8+ years, it still gives me a boost to watch the reds win and to see them playing such enjoyable rugby, I grin from ear to ear.
The night took a bad turn at one point when after the game I looked over to the coat hook and saw my jacket had been stolen….not a big deal except incredibly stupidly I’d left my wife’s and my passports in it. Idiot!! So I did a couple of laps around the inside and outside of the pub looking to see if maybe the thiefl had chucked them (or the jacket itself cos there was no money in any pocket). Nothin. Then I looked up and saw the 7-11 across the road and had a brainwave…dodgy b@stards hang out at 7-11s at midnight on a Friday. So I wandered over, walked up to the kid wearing my jacket, told him he’d just stolen it from the k**** pub and I knew because in this pocket (as I reached into the pocket) is my passport. Fortunately he took it off and handed it to me without a word. His mate then apologised.
So back to the pub for another drink to calm down and celebrate the Reds mighty victory over competition heavyweights, the Cheetahs! Well done boys!
March 29th 2011 @ 8:49am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:49am | Report comment
Nice one BennO, you’ve got us back on track. Your brief negativity was non-rugby related, so I’ll allow it
Glad you got your stuff back too…
If the Reds-Cheetahs was the first game you’ve seen this year, then you sir have impeccable timing. The Reds are certainly re-finding that vein of attacking form that thrilled us all last season, and right at this point in time, they’re a deserving conference leader. How they go in the Republic over the next few weeks will quite possibly decide their season..
March 29th 2011 @ 9:01am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:01am | Report comment
I reckon so Brett. First up is the Lions I think so I reckon they’ll go ok there, can’t remember who after that.
Looking forward to catching a couple more tho. Even though it was probably the shortest in history it seemed like a long off season.
March 29th 2011 @ 9:14am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:14am | Report comment
Lions then Stormers, and then Bulls on return to Brisbane, according to the draw. Tough little period coming up, but they should be eyeing off at least 2 wins there, if they want to be taken seriously..
March 29th 2011 @ 9:23am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Yep for sure. But the Bulls at Lang Park, the reds will be a chance, especially if it’s the last game of the Bulls’ tour, they never win that.
March 29th 2011 @ 9:30am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:30am | Report comment
I thought it was the Bulls last tour game BennO, but they play the Force in Perth on the way home. Tough tour actually, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Reds, Force, and then straight up against the Chiefs when they get home. Season defining month ahead??
March 29th 2011 @ 9:49am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:49am | Report comment
Yeah that is a tough tour, with the reds and all.
Oh and the ‘Saders.
I spose.
March 29th 2011 @ 10:16am
Rusty said | March 29th 2011 @ 10:16am | Report comment
The Bulls are definitely in a spot of bother – they needed to leverage their home record to give them momentum and a points buffer for their tour. Which is on the face of it a tough one – but then which aret nowadays?
March 29th 2011 @ 10:46am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 10:46am | Report comment
Rusty, the South African teams are definitely at a disadvantage when it comes to the inter-confernce games, having/trying to bunch all their games together (considering the Aus and NZ teams just jump the ditch as and when required). That run of the Bulls coming up is nearly as bad as that five-game stretch the Sharks had last year…
Of course, I say this in a positive way
March 29th 2011 @ 10:54am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 10:54am | Report comment
But it is positive, all that travel for tough tours strenghtens them mentally. So really in the long term, which is the term that matters, it’s an advantage.
March 29th 2011 @ 12:07pm
Rusty said | March 29th 2011 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Its always been this way so but in *postive* light the tours are now only 4 games where we used have 5 every other year.
Sharks wont be unhappy with their tour with wins and 4 BP = 12 points from 4 games
Cheetahs Im sure are just damned thrilled to get a win and in Sydney nog al! Given they are 8 starting players down Im sure we will be seeng the U16 2nds by the time they hit Dunedin.
Lions have yet to tour but games to Brumbies, Tahs, Higlander and Canes toward the end of the season will be veruy hard unless they get a few more wins and confidence
Bulls start a difficult tour to the wounded Canes, dominating Saders, Red-hot Reds and the Force. Given their form a win and some BPs would be good going.
Stormers get the Chiefs, Blues, Brumbies and Rebels. Probably the easier of the lot
March 29th 2011 @ 6:09pm
PeterK said | March 29th 2011 @ 6:09pm | Report comment
I hate hearing how a prop is good around the park, and only gave a few penaltys away in the scrums.
That says to me the prop is no good, he cant do his main job. It is FAR worse than a scrumhalf who cant pass but is good around the park.
Alexander and Daley are good rugby players but poor props.
Thankfully, and here is the positive, Slipper, Palmer and Blake went really well in the scrums. Blake is picked on for not being fit enough, who cares he smashed the Canes scrum and helped them dominate the mauls, eat more pies I say.
March 29th 2011 @ 8:48am
johnny-boy said | March 29th 2011 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Nicely put BBoB. Sugar coating everything never got the All Blacks anywhere – in fact quite the reverse and likewise it wont get the Wallabies anywhere. I’m reminded of Jack Nicholson’s “you cant handle the truth”. But here’s a go – Dean Mumm tries really hard.
March 29th 2011 @ 9:10am
PastHisBest said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:10am | Report comment
Maybe that’s it JB…here’s my Mumm report card – “tries really hard to the best of his ability”. Sorry Brett, that’s as positive as I can get on that particular subject.
Otherwise pretty decent weekend of Rugby with perhaps the only exception being the blues chiefs match. Intensity was OK but the weather made it a bit of a lottery.
March 29th 2011 @ 9:16am
Brett McKay said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:16am | Report comment
JB, PHB, there was a reason I didn’t mention Mumm you know……
March 29th 2011 @ 9:13am
johnny-boy said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Here’s another – Al Baxter and Ben Alexander would be really good at holding scrums up, if only the other props werent so naughty
March 29th 2011 @ 9:33am
Rusty said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:33am | Report comment
haha
March 29th 2011 @ 12:21pm
eNJay said | March 29th 2011 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
I think that’s harsh on Ben Alexander, he’s a decent prop. I went overly positive in my other post because with the Brumbies I had nothing else. Besides, he scores tries which is essential to a prop’s job description. Haha
March 29th 2011 @ 9:30am
Brendon said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:30am | Report comment
While I do enjoy watching the reds play a style of rugby that is so entertaining, I have my doubts about them. They haven’t even played a team inside the top 9 other than the Tahs who gave them a spanking and show that a strong in your face defence with good work at the breakdown completely outplays their style of rugby. I hope they do keep winning to make the finals but the way they are being talked up is a little over the top just yet.. Let’s hope the Tahs can get back to the first rounds kind of rugby and have these two in the top 4…
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March 29th 2011 @ 9:49am
BennO said | March 29th 2011 @ 9:49am | Report comment
Good point Brendon.