The future of online poker: life after Full Tilt
By Matt Bungard, 5 Jul 2011 Matt Bungard is a Roar Guru
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- poker, Texas Hold'Em Poker, World Series of Poker
There’s only been a few times in my life where something completely remote to my loved ones and surroundings has left me extremely disappointed. To name a couple; Futurama being cancelled, the Rabbitohs being kicked out of the NRL and when my favourite online poker site ceased to exist.
Halfway through the last week of both June and the 2010-11 Financial Year, Full Tilt Poker (FTP) closed its doors – probably for good.
I appreciate that it seems somewhat frivolous in mourning the demise of what was ultimately just another online poker website, but bear with me.
Since midway through 2009, I’ve been a regular user on FTP.
By no means a high roller, but there were times when winning a small amount of money came at just the perfect time for me; If I wasn’t getting enough hours at work, or I had to splash some money out on an out of the ordinary cost (Football registration fees, a new Xbox…the important things), I could usually rely on poker to supplement my income, at least a little bit.
Through the past two and a half years I made a tidy profit of around a few thousand.
Not enough to retire on but hey, a broke uni student can use all the help they can get.
Particularly in the summer months when there was no university, I found little greater pleasure than getting up on Monday/Tuesday mornings, going for a run and then coming home to watch the NFL and play poker.
Of course, I had a life outside of my computer but typically, I’d schedule my social life around these two mornings because a) I love the NFL and b) I loved Full Tilt Poker.
It wasn’t the first online poker website I’d sampled and thanks to the U.S Attorney General, it won’t be the last. But for whatever reason, FTP was my drink of choice in the poker world.
I’m not sure if it was the glitzy display and interface, the array of my favourite players that played exclusively on FTP (Tom Dwan, Phil Ivey and Gus Hansen to name a few) or the fact that I had the option to choose a cute little turtle as my online avatar when I played.
My girlfriend seemed to love the feature that you could change its little face depending on your mood (…so did I).
Whatever the reason, with Full Tilt out of the equation I’ll either have to return to pastures less-greener at PokerStars, or sample something new and hope it takes my interest.
For the non-poker savvy reading this, you could compare Stars and Tilt to the Old Firm in the SPL. You either choose Celtic or Rangers, that’s it.
I could go out and try PartyPoker (Hearts) or Cake (Motherwell) but I can guarantee the lack of tournaments and big money prize pools in comparison to the two big boys would leave me and the hundreds of thousands of other FTP users looking for something different in no time.
But enough about me – I was fortunate enough to not get caught in the eye of the storm which currently sees thousands of players unable to access the money they still had in their Full Tilt accounts.
One of my friends worked hard enough to grind his bankroll up from $10 to $500…which he now can’t get to because the site has been shut down.
You would like to think that there’s a solution around the corner, and that all the players that have been affected will be able to claim the money that is rightfully theirs.
There are plenty of people who look to online poker as their primary or only source of income. If their account remains frozen out they’ll be without a livelihood for an indefinite amount of time.
A prime example is Phil Ivey, who is the most popular and probably best poker player in the world. He has over $5Million USD tied up in his account which he can’t access.
He, along with dozens of other pros, is in the process of filing a class-action suit against the owners of FTP.
In addition, Ivey boycotted this year’s World Series of Poker as a result. Surely a situation that nobody ever saw coming.
There is no denying the amount of luck involved in poker is significant. Of course, you can play a hand perfectly and lose. You can play a hand downright horribly and win.
That’s the nature of the beast – but this doesn’t put poker in the same category as slot machines, roulette or any other table game. There is a skill factor to poker that cannot be understated.
That’s the reason that professional poker players exist, but professional roulette players don’t. And despite what your average problem gambler or pensioner at the local RSL will tell you, professional poker machine players are also a non-entity.
Poker pro Mike Matusow once sited Ivey as evidence that poker is a game of skill. A man who has won 8 World Series of Poker Bracelets (Usually outlasting fields of hundreds or thousands of players) as well as making it into the top 25 at the WSOP Main Event four times in the last nine years. The size of the playing field in each of those tournaments? 631 in 2002, 839 in 2003, 5,619 in 2005 and 6,494 in 2009.
All of this at the age of 35. Such feats cannot be put down to sheer luck (if you want the other side of the coin, Google an online player who plays under the name ‘tomastomast’)
But who’s to blame for all of this? The short answer is the United States government, who have made online poker a target for all of their ire in the past few months.
Online gambling is illegal in the United States and despite it being impossible to argue that poker is a game of skill, U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York. Preet Bharara. has taken it upon himself to be the white knight against the evil empire of online gaming.
For whatever reason, Bharara, a man who had been commended in the past for his handlings of an array of white collar crimes in the United States, turned his attention to the poker world.
Known as “Black Friday” to poker players, the case of United States v. Scheinberg was officially launched on the 15th of April, 2011. Drawing upon an archaic anti-gaming statute in New York State Law, PokerStars and Full Tilt were both closed down temporarily (along with other websites of less significance).
Both were later reopened but for many, the writing was on the wall as players nervously began to withdraw their hard-earned bankrolls.
Last week, a gambling commission in Britain’s Channel Islands visited the offices of Pocket Kings Ltd.; the Dublin based software developers for Full Tilt, and made it clear that the gaming license for FTP had been revoked for the time being.
All software support, marketing and maintenance for the site were revoked, and as a result, Full Tilt Poker ceases to exist at this point in time.
So yesterday evening when I sat down and played PokerStars for the first time in three years, and dealt with an unfriendly and cluttered interface, a less responsive table setup and an overall product that just felt sloppy and half-baked, all I and thousands of others, can do, is hope that when an appeal on behalf of FTP to regain its gaming license takes place on July 26, that all parties involved can reach an amicable solution.
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July 5th 2011 @ 2:00pm
Nick said | July 5th 2011 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
Big shame isnt it..
I had no idea about the whole black friday…
I withdrew a cheque and it was approved on the 23rd…12 days ago and still havnt revieved anything…once its been approved does that mean it has been sent??? or if it has been sent will it bounce?
July 5th 2011 @ 2:19pm
Matt Bungard said | July 5th 2011 @ 2:19pm | Report comment
Is this with Tilt or Stars? It usually takes about two weeks for cheques to arrive. I had a weird incident once where I recieved a cheque from PartyPoker and took it to my bank to cash (commonwealth) and they couldn’t do it because “This cheque is in U.S Dollars but the bank that we’re withdrawing from is based in London”. :S
It’s been about two years since that happened and I still don’t understand what the problem with that was. But good luck getting your cash, if it’s with Stars I wouldn’t worry about it, you’ll probably be fine. If it’s with Tilt then…I just hope it wasn’t too much money
July 5th 2011 @ 2:46pm
Nick said | July 5th 2011 @ 2:46pm | Report comment
Thanks for the reply mate…
Yea its with Full Tilt….I got a email on the 23rd saying it was approved…which i think usually means its clear to be sent??? with pokerstars my first cheque i got within 6 days…
but maybe im just impatient and it just hasnt got here…but the next thing i have to worry about is wether it will bounce lol
July 5th 2011 @ 3:21pm
Matt Bungard said | July 5th 2011 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
I hope that it works out for you – I googled your plight a bit and found this:
http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/how-long-have-non-us-players-been-waiting-for-withdrawals-t118762.html
So perhaps you’ll just have to wait a few weeks….or FTP can win their appeal and we can all be back playing by August. But sadly I don’t see that happening
July 5th 2011 @ 2:15pm
Jon said | July 5th 2011 @ 2:15pm | Report comment
Full tilt was by far one of the most user friendly and aesthetically pleasing poker sites. I hope it comes back on.
July 5th 2011 @ 2:57pm
D said | July 5th 2011 @ 2:57pm | Report comment
I feel the same as you do about Full Tilt – it was part of my routine – loved the Monday tournies and worked life around them. No other site compares to the set up they had going on. Poker Stars is so different to use and not nearly as good.
I have 4k in pending withdrawals I am waiting for – I have been asking for the cash for nearly a month before they were gone and have seen nothing. Makes me sick to think of the hours I put in to making that money and that I may never see it again
July 5th 2011 @ 3:37pm
Cameron said | July 5th 2011 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
Wow, you are a bit of a Poker noob aren’t you?
and “and despite it being impossible to argue that poker is a game of skill” directly contradicts what you say in the previous paragraphs. FYI there has already been a case years ago when it was successfully argued in court that Poker is a game of skill. Of course there is an short term element of luck. But as a time period increases the effects of luck decrease to almost negligible.
July 5th 2011 @ 3:55pm
Matt Bungard said | July 5th 2011 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
Impossible in that there will always be people that look down on poker as ‘gambling’ no matter how clear it is that there’s skill involved. What’s more, the element of luck in poker is not just ‘short term’. Yes, a good player will win over an extended period of time but it is very possible for even a top pro to run below expected value for months at a time to the point that it cripples them. Not to mention the other side of the coin where a bad player can get lucky for a few days and win more money than they ever though possible – see Darvin Moon, Jamie Gold or Jerry Yang.
And there’s not just one case where poker was ruled a game of skill, there’s been quite a few. The problem is that there’s also been times where the reverse has occured…or the government in question won’t even entertain the notion (Like what’s happening right now in America, perhaps?)
Then again why am I wasting my time talking to someone that called me a ‘noob’ :/
July 5th 2011 @ 3:49pm
Black 9s said | July 5th 2011 @ 3:49pm | Report comment
I had $100s in my Full Tilt account. I play Limit and this was one of the few sites where there were almost always $3-$6 games available. The other players, particularly when the USA players were around, were terrible. Playing premium hands was just like printing money. A reraise by one of these losers on 4th street was usually a sure sign they had nothing – or were still chasing a gut straight or hoping that there A- crap could beat my set or KK. I have played games with 4 cold callers and had the betting capped each round – just massive pots and in the end my KK has been up against A-crap x3 and 33. Such a shame. I hope I get my money.
July 5th 2011 @ 4:02pm
Jon said | July 5th 2011 @ 4:02pm | Report comment
This is a real shame. I liked the FTP site by far more than any other site. And BTW, I only played play money purely for enetertainment…. I wonder if I could claim my 14 Mio play chips and get them transferred to another site???
I have tried poker Stars already, and do not like how that sitr works..
July 5th 2011 @ 4:52pm
jay said | July 5th 2011 @ 4:52pm | Report comment
What are you talking about bro? NFL football isnt in the summer
July 5th 2011 @ 10:31pm
Barry said | July 5th 2011 @ 10:31pm | Report comment
I’m fairly sure the writer is Australian
July 5th 2011 @ 4:53pm
joe said | July 5th 2011 @ 4:53pm | Report comment
i made a withdrawal of $7900 via bank transfer on the 28th of june and it was approved.is there any chance of me receiving my money.im based in australia.
July 5th 2011 @ 7:02pm
Dylan Manning said | July 5th 2011 @ 7:02pm | Report comment
Bro, you are right on the money
FTP was clean,easy and simple
these other rooms are clunky unorganized.. and lack a panda avatar that i hold so dear to my heart
RIP FTP
you WILL be sorely missed
-Dylan
July 5th 2011 @ 7:40pm
nickthegun said | July 5th 2011 @ 7:40pm | Report comment
Great article bro…
Till this day i still cannot see what draws so many people to Pokerstars…
Its the little things that just make it so shit.
-the disorganised tournament selection screen
-the fold button when you can just check
-the dull looking playing screen and big ugly buttons
-the $ sign next to my TOURNAMENT chips
But its more the fact that I was a 90 man specialist on full tilt that hurts so much… and that I put a lot of time and effort into getting comfortable 20 tabling those things.. knowing the sounds.. where to have my mouse on the screen for the next table to pop up.. knowing alot of the players.. and losing all my player notes…that awesome feeling of seeing the background turn blue and know you are close…
I can only have faith that it will be back soon..
Give the US government their 42.3billion in tax revenue a year… just let me play at tilt….
nickthegun