England try to steal that All Black jersey magic
By Michael Warren, 16 Jul 2011 Michael Warren is a Roar Pro
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Wallaby great Elton Flatley has been at it again. “The All Blacks are too old,” he says. Yeah, right!
How proud I am to be a Kiwi and how flattered I am to know the trouble teams and individuals will go to in the hope they will upset the All Blacks and New Zealanders.
Hell, they don’t know the Kiwi psyche very well, do they! We have comedians and wannabes jumping out of the woodwork worldwide.
How did an All Black team get so far under the pasty white skin of the English that they now need to attire themselves in a black jersey to help them believe that they are up to the All Black playing standard?
When are overseas teams ever going to learn that to be an All Black you have to be playing for the team, and no amount of wearable art is ever going to make you be one?
The Scots have tried it, the French have tried it and now the Poms are trying it, even to the extent that they want to place Maori motifs onto the shirts in the hope that the team will suddenly arise into an unbeatable Webb Ellis trophy recipient because they wore black.
The laugh goes on.
Australia has its comedians also. Flatley has been sending great clouds of fantasy smoke into the air and having the interlocking rings drift across the Tasman in the hope that his comments will be taken seriously.
Next they will be telling us that Robbie “Dingo” Deans is only filling in as Wallaby coach because he lost his way trying to find the North Island when he left the Crusaders and needed a job. (Come back Robbie, all is forgiven!)
Springboks coach Peter de Villiers continues to make known that only his B side will tour Australia and New Zealand ahead of the World Cup. Does he actually have a better side? Maybe he has been inhaling the same stuff as Elton.
The latest revelation by NZRU chief executive Steve Tew is that the proposal to have Argentina join the existing three countries in an enlarged Four-Nations southern hemisphere competition is also a lot closer than most people realise.
The Crusaders proved that you can still be a finalist in any competition even after you travel, and travel, and travel, and ……. To get a true perspective of the herculean effort required you need to rise above and overcome partisan refs in partisan stadiums full of partisans.
Travelling 10,000 km before a final and making out it’s not a problem is utter rubbish.
How a quad-nations event will help improve a flagging tri-nations event is even more mystifying.
Maybe the meeting of chief executives of all the major rugby-playing nations in Los Angeles later this month will solve this dilemma for me. (Or better still ask Elton and Peter for their input; and why Los Angeles anyway?)
The All Blacks have put away the rose tinted glasses they used to view the roses on the English shirts and have donned the Black Dog shades to view their own.
The screaming Nor ‘west wind blowing across the Tasman has dissipated Elton’s smoke-rings and Peter’s invalid army is resting up. All is well in the All Black tent and only the All Blacks are sleeping (so I’m told) with eyes wide open.
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July 16th 2011 @ 6:38am
Parisien said | July 16th 2011 @ 6:38am | Report comment
I was surprised to hear this. Does this mean if the English meet the All Blacks, the English wear black, their “away” strip? I didn’t like the Scots or the French wearing almost black, and it only made TV viewing more difficult, aside from the arguments about tradition. It seems its happening again.
July 16th 2011 @ 6:40am
Green Rat said | July 16th 2011 @ 6:40am | Report comment
I wouldn’t call the ABs old even if a few of them do have incontinence issues. What’s wrong with the ABs being old anyway? With age comes wisdom, doesn’t it? Ali Williams is only 30 and that’s younger than Richard Loe was when he was beating up Elton.
I don’t mind England switching to darker jerseys, what bothers me is this Ancient British haka they’re experimenting with not to mention the RFU’s plan to export butter to China. I hope both plans backfire on them.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:16am
Dave said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Frank Bunce was 30 when debuted for the ABs and he did pretty well
July 16th 2011 @ 4:33pm
Schuey said | July 16th 2011 @ 4:33pm | Report comment
now that you mention him…. I emailed Richard Loe a few days ago after coming across an article he wrote. I asked him if he ever apologised to Paul Carozza for smashing the defenceless wingers nose to pieces in that test.
Haven’t had a reply yet.
July 17th 2011 @ 9:42am
Sebastien Gruntfuttock said | July 17th 2011 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Brad Thorne is 36 and he still gets around the paddock fairly well, probably better than one or two of the Wallaby squad that I can think of.
July 16th 2011 @ 8:34am
Pot Hale said | July 16th 2011 @ 8:34am | Report comment
“The latest revelation by NZRU chief executive Steve Tew is that the proposal to have Argentina join the existing three countries in an enlarged Four-Nations southern hemisphere competition is also a lot closer than most people realise.”
How is this a latest revelation? This was announced months ago.
July 16th 2011 @ 8:38am
Pot Hale said | July 16th 2011 @ 8:38am | Report comment
Here’s the actual situation on the away strip for England from the RFU website:
“England will wear a change strip against Wales on August 6 and against Argentina on September 10 in their Rugby World Cup group match. They will wear their white home shirt in their other RWC pool matches.
Martin Johnson’s side will wear a traditional white kit against Wales at the Millennium Stadium on August 13 and against Ireland at the Aviva Stadium on August 27. Fans will have the opportunity to purchase both the home and change strips, revenues from which will be ploughed back into the grassroots game.
An RFU spokesperson said: “Like all countries, England are obliged by the Rugby World Cup participation agreement to have a change strip. We have worked with Nike on producing a shirt that complies with Rugby World Cup and International Rugby Board regulations and, fully aware of the significance of a black shirt to New Zealand’s players and population as a whole, we have fully consulted with the New Zealand Rugby Union who confirmed they had no issues.
“England will therefore wear the black change shirt against Argentina at the Otago Stadium in Dunedin on September 10 due to a clash with the light blue and white of the Pumas. They will wear their white home shirt in their other RWC pool matches.”
Much ado about nothing really.
July 16th 2011 @ 9:31am
bigbaz said | July 16th 2011 @ 9:31am | Report comment
as is the whole article
July 16th 2011 @ 9:23am
Snobby Deans said | July 16th 2011 @ 9:23am | Report comment
Since when has Elton Flatley EVER been a Wallaby great????????
July 16th 2011 @ 2:44pm
kiwi di said | July 16th 2011 @ 2:44pm | Report comment
thats right flatley never good heaps of olden age wallabys
July 16th 2011 @ 9:30am
ChrisT said | July 16th 2011 @ 9:30am | Report comment
Wow Michael, how many chups can you Kiwi’s actually carry on your shoulders? Not surprising I guess when clearly the whole world’s conspiring against you all. It’s just all so unfair isn’t it. No wonder John Keys also had a rant about the English using a bit of black in their change strip – not like he’s got much else really important to worry about these days is it?
July 16th 2011 @ 9:41am
Spud Irish said | July 16th 2011 @ 9:41am | Report comment
Maybe one reason why England’s playing in black against the Pumas in deepest, darkest, wettest Dunedin is so the bruises won’t show. The RFU knows that there’s every likelihood a team ranked 5 in the world could be upset by a team ranked just three spots below it. Specially as England has lost six tests to Argentina in the past. But if they do get past the Pumas they’ll have to take on France (probably) and they’ve lost 36 tests to Les Bleus who’ve done okay in the last few years in NZ.
Some people call Albion’s new black strip All Black black. Others, like the bookies, call it funereal black.
July 16th 2011 @ 10:29am
Pot Hale said | July 16th 2011 @ 10:29am | Report comment
Argentina have won four matches against England – 3 at home, 1 away. Since 2000, they’ve played 6 times, with England winning four times, including once in BA.
And their record against the French is better than most; since 2000, they’ve played 18 tests between RWCs, warm-ups and 6N. They’re ahead 10-8.
July 16th 2011 @ 10:46am
Oakie said | July 16th 2011 @ 10:46am | Report comment
Maybe they think it will make them look tougher?
July 16th 2011 @ 10:58am
Jiggles said | July 16th 2011 @ 10:58am | Report comment
“in the hope that the team will suddenly arise into an unbeatable Webb Ellis trophy recipient because they wore black.”
I thought history has shown us that wearing black at a world cup guarantees an early exit.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:06am
Jerry said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:06am | Report comment
The earliest a team in black has gone out is the semi-finals (3 times), plus 1 win and 1 losing final.
Teams in silver/grey? Not so much.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:09am
Jiggles said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:09am | Report comment
What were they thinking with that silver/grey? I know they were obliged to wear an alternate strip but surely a plain white jumper would have been better.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:20am
Dave said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:20am | Report comment
Anything would have been better, and then the canes and crusaders thought it would be a great idea to follow suit.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:53am
Jerry said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:53am | Report comment
The Soup Rugby alternative strips are all stupid, especially as they roll them out for all away games (which is an Americanism) rather than in the case of an actual conflict.
July 16th 2011 @ 11:51am
Jerry said | July 16th 2011 @ 11:51am | Report comment
It was a marketing thing, I guess.
The real cock up was that it still had too much Black on it, so in the Scottish fixture it was two near identical strips.
I’ve noticed that team’s alternative strips are pretty much mono-chromatic this time around. The AB’s have gone back to white jerseys for theirs.
July 16th 2011 @ 12:16pm
Dave said | July 16th 2011 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
And the scots jersey had grey panels added to it at the time as well for some reason. I actually think the black jersey would have clashed less.
July 16th 2011 @ 3:43pm
Jerry said | July 16th 2011 @ 3:43pm | Report comment
I think they did switch to the black jersey for the second half.