Rugby League growing slowly on world stage
By Bam Bam, 19 Aug 2011 Bam Bam is a Roar Guru
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Rugby League has seen a lot of growth in the past decade, and internationally, since the 2008 World Cup. The growth hasn’t been world dominating, but it has been exponential – which is all a sport could ask.
But with this growth the international scene has not really found a formal time slot, like that of Rugby Union and football.
This is going to become a major problem in years to come.
First of all, we must recognise that cricket is played in the summer of the host country – not a universal six-month period.
So it is not impossible for other sports to do the same, but Rugby League does need to establish a calendar, especially for the new and developing nations, to provide a stronger international scene.
The Four Nations is a great concept, in the fact that it encourages promotion (a Northern or Southern Hemisphere team to play against the three top nations of the world).
The problem with this is that these three nations (Australia, England and New Zealand) are continually playing against each other to solidify their position as the top three nations.
Imagine if Wales caused an upset this year and defeated one of the three and came third or second. Nonetheless, in the next Four Nations, the Welsh would be excluded. It’s not a fair system.
The RLEF (The European – and now Northern Hemisphere inclusive – ruling body) has a much better system than the RLIF (The global ruling body).
The Southern Hemisphere has the greatest club competition and strongest international teams, but no protocol or system for developing the new Rugby League nations.
The RLEF has three tiers for the Northern Hemisphere alone. The tiers are used to give nations building blocks to strengthen their side and build a slow, but growing, national fan base.
The three tiers start from the European bowl, which is for entrant countries to gauge where they need to focus on (e.g. technically, positionally and so on).
The next tier, the European Shield, is for the strengthening of the developing nations and to establish some consistent competition and develop a more robust club competition in their home country.
The third tier is for the top European nations (excluding the Four Nations’ teams) to play against each other with a chance of playing in the Four Nations.
Other than these three tiers, there is the MENA Cup (Middle East and North Africa cup), for which credit must go to Lebanon Rugby League for exposing the game in an area that is not the easiest place to live, let alone play.
There is also the Amateur Four Nations (between the amateur players of Ireland, Scotland, England and Wales, which the Welsh have won eight times of the past 10).
Then, the RLEF is also trying to co-ordinate the North America expansion (and, for some reason, the South Africa RL is being helped by them as well).
The international scene in the Southern Hemisphere though is in a much sadder state.
The Pacific nations are finding their own Tests to play, Samoa are traveling to France to play. And the Asian continent has barely been touched.
Bali is coming along slowly, trying to provide Rugby League as a party along with some competition.
Indonesia is slowly building and Thailand is only in its infancy. But the Pacific nations have been around for a long time and no one has taken responsibility for their development.
The Pacific nations should be having a Cup to play for every year, be it for promotion to the Four Nations or not.
The Pacific nations should involve Papua New Guinea, Samoa, Tonga, Cook Islands and Fiji. The five nations can battle it out in a single host country annually.
And the likes of Bali, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan should be offered a chance to play against each other for promotion of this Cup. It can still be called the Pacific Cup as they are all still bordering the Pacific.
And from here, we will see stronger international teams and a stronger World Cup.
The World Cup seems to be the only time when the minnows are ever focused on. But if we focused on them continually then the minnows might just become majors. Or whatever the big nations are called.
The international scene needs to develop for Rugby League to develop internationally; it’s simple, but true.
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August 19th 2011 @ 9:27am
Rodney McDonell said | August 19th 2011 @ 9:27am | Report comment
The Pacific Nations do have an annual cup. It’s called the Pacific Cup. Google it or find it on Wikipedia.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:23pm
Bam Bam said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:23pm | Report comment
So who won it in 2010?
August 19th 2011 @ 6:58pm
Pockman said | August 19th 2011 @ 6:58pm | Report comment
Just googled it myself, he is right but it’s not annual by the look’s of it, being played this year but last played in 2009 and before that 2006.
August 19th 2011 @ 9:35am
M1tch said | August 19th 2011 @ 9:35am | Report comment
Tne more games nations play the more they’ll improve, meaningful tournaments for the pac islands is essential for the games future to keep those players wanting to represent their country and not change to play for nz/aus. The games biggest failure is Russia there was a true chance 10 years ago to develop the game but we sadly have let them slip through our hands. The United States is an interesting one, I think the game could attract a following but needs a big investor to promote the game. France is coming along slowly but surely, Catalans are 10 years in and have a solid core base of 8000 which is better than some english clubs. Toulouse is needed in the super league hopefully in 3 years time they’ll be ready.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:45pm
King of the Gorgonites said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
Agree abotu Toulouse – it is a must.
Also agree abotu russia. a missed opportuinty there. a lot of the clubs went across to RU. Russian rugby has benefited enourmously from this, with a new professional comp and abotu to partake in their first RWC.
August 19th 2011 @ 10:07am
Juan Patain said | August 19th 2011 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Rodney, the Pacific Cup is not played annually. There is a competition played in Auckland for expats, but the official Pacific Cup is tentatively set for every 2 years, and that depends on the whims of the ARL, NRL, NSWRL and RLIF, who are in many ways the same people, and for that reason have little time or energy for development in the Pacific.
The AFL are currently moving into the Pacific, and they believe they are fighting against the NRL in this regard. But the truth is that the NRL does absolutely nothing to develop the Pacific Islands apart from sanctioning an occasional low level tour or hosting games in Western Sydney for Pacific Islands expats. Fiji and the Cook Islands are doing great things for development, as are PNG, but none of that comes from Australia or New Zealand or the RLIF. It is the work of those nations alone. Given the talent that is available to the NRL in the Pacific, especially in PNG it is a crime that realtively nothing is being done with those nations.
August 19th 2011 @ 10:37am
oikee said | August 19th 2011 @ 10:37am | Report comment
As i said below, PNG have a new stadium being built for the Pacific games i think they are holding, to be honest, if PNG are serious about playing rugby league, and it is supposed to be their national sport, they need to take matters into their own hands, as they are doing. The stadium will hold about 30 thousand, and they should hold the Pacific cup their every year, plus i also heard they are getting a team in the QLD cup, which is what they have to do for the country.
Once all this is in place they can build over the next 8 years and then might be ready to have a team in the NRL.
Baby steps, half the country is not hooked up to TV services, so this is just one small problem, of which their are hundreds. Aids, lack of facilities, jobs, schooling, transport, distance, its endless.
August 19th 2011 @ 12:46pm
Siva Samoa said | August 19th 2011 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
Are you talking about the South Pacific games in New Caledonia starting next week?
August 19th 2011 @ 1:27pm
oikee said | August 19th 2011 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
Yes, that could be the ones, the Stadium in PNG should be ready for 2013 i think it is held in PNG.
Not 100% but these could be the games, or it might be the asian games, something along those lines, i am to lazy to look it up at the moment.
August 19th 2011 @ 10:30am
oikee said | August 19th 2011 @ 10:30am | Report comment
PNG orginise the Pacific cup. And the island teams are stronger now than they have ever been, it takes time but only last year i think Samoa played NZ for the first time ever. With the amount of Polynesians in the NRL, these guys have to wake up and start playing for their nations, once they do this the island teams will be hard to beat.
Take a leaf out of Hoffmans books, from the Broncos, he has a Indigernous mum, a kiwi dad, so he is playing for NZ and is elligible to play in the all-stars game.
These boys have to wake up and start realising that if they all picked their home nation, they could stand up and compepte against the big nations, our game revolves around these monsters. Look at Fiji, imagine Petro, Hayne, Uate and others all commiting to them, they would be a world force. It wont be to long before they start to realise this hopefully.
Starting their own origin series would help.
August 19th 2011 @ 10:57am
Matt S said | August 19th 2011 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Good to see lately:
- Rugby League Duetschland hosting an U/16 tournament with Serbia, Russia, and Scotland joining the hosts.
-Scotland beating England at U/18 level in Glasgow
-Belgrade hosting the phase two RLEF technical strategy funded by the Serbian Ministry of Sport & Youth with Czech, Germany, Malta and Italy sending delegates. These strategy seminars will move onto Beruit, Jamaica, Russia hosting them in the coming months.
-Ukraine Rugby League close to getting Ministry recognition with nine time union champs Argo joining the Ukraine league comp and SUper League and local rugby league now on Ukraine FTA TV.
-Two youngsters from Limerick Ireland joining St Helens RLFC.
August 19th 2011 @ 1:42pm
oikee said | August 19th 2011 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
No mention of Canada i see Matt, no worries, i think they are looking at union players and any man dog or camel they can find to whip up some teams. Even AFL expats in Canada might be a option.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:36pm
Bam Bam said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:36pm | Report comment
I have been keeping an eye on that U/16′s. It’s great for Germany to have U/16′s playing already. The youth is where you want to aim. Get into schools. And to think none of those teams are RL powerhouses, but in a decade could be.
August 19th 2011 @ 7:00pm
Pockman said | August 19th 2011 @ 7:00pm | Report comment
To be honest yes the numbers will grow but I don’t think any of these teams will be power houses any time soon (Even in ten years).
August 19th 2011 @ 8:01pm
Bam Bam said | August 19th 2011 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Well, there are a couple of ex-pats and German heritage players in the UK – Jimmy Keinhorst is on trial for Leeds and his two brothers are pretty decent as well. There is a team in England http://www.germanexilesrl.co.uk that is full of German ex-pats. They may not be powerhouses in a decade, but look at Germans, they’re built for Rugby (especially League). To be honest, Germans are more built for League than any other nation I know. So hopefully, with another large country playing the game it will bring more exposure.
August 20th 2011 @ 1:51pm
Crosscoder said | August 20th 2011 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
No countries become powerhouses in 10 years,when they operate from an amateur base.
And there is a young irishman William Stewart a Ballyclare native ,who plays for the Ballyahinch Rabbitohss on a 2 week trial with the Harlequins RL team.
August 19th 2011 @ 11:09am
Rugby League Nut said | August 19th 2011 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Rugby League is moving in the right direction which and their has been some good progress made by the RLEF and the RLIF. It comes down to funding which RL at international level doesn’t have the funding the likes of Rugby and Footbal do.
The upcoming Four Nations and the 2013 WC will really be the yardstick as to how far the game has come at international level. Their has been growth around the world but can it be turned into something that can generate interest from the wider public and bring in the much needed dollars to grow the game even more?
I still think if the US was to get it’s act together and broker a peace deal between the two comps and then try and get the competition onto TV then the dynamics of international rugby league at international level would change for the better and help build the credibility of the game as a global professional sport.l
August 21st 2011 @ 5:07pm
stu said | August 21st 2011 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
RL internationally is typically made up of players who can’t break into their national RU team. The US media money is so far into bed with NFL, NBL and hockey in the same way it works with AFL and RL here….to maintain little interest in the rest. For all the breat beating that comes from RL that it is the greatest game on earth yet some how it’s not getting through to those other people on earth. Here in lies the danger, AFL know where their bread is buttered (Australian Focus), NRL on the one hand try to make RL a national Australian game with no success to date and at the same time waste money trying to make an international comp viable. They are in great danger of loosing direction and the Australian market in the long term.
August 22nd 2011 @ 1:22pm
ClipperWithChipsOnBoth said | August 22nd 2011 @ 1:22pm | Report comment
Wishful thinking stu.
August 22nd 2011 @ 4:49pm
Crosscoder said | August 22nd 2011 @ 4:49pm | Report comment
Stu
Stab in the dark,your first line has liitle foundation ,but looks good for effect,
No success to date in Oz,well the Storm are hardly failures despite the fact they are playing in a niche market.
Where is the so called breast beating,about “the greatest game on earth’.
Please show us where rl has wasted money trying to make an intnl comp viable,when the last RLWC made $5m profit.Don’t let your dislike for rl get in the way of the reality of the situation.
Maybe you should read the pre amble of the state of the game report in this country,you may learn something.
Yes i am sure the I.C will follow your every word to the letter,as will the RLEF.
August 19th 2011 @ 12:42pm
Jaceman said | August 19th 2011 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
No trolling from AFL people about this… Imagine if the AFL had a similar article…
August 19th 2011 @ 1:32pm
oikee said | August 19th 2011 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
The difference being Jaceman, we have a world cup, have done so since 1954. So it is not like we have a few expats in a few countries playing league.
And another country other than Australia holds that world cup at the moment.
I just came back on this blog to see “have we grown yet”.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:47pm
King of the Gorgonites said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:47pm | Report comment
Ummm RL is an international game. AFL is not. simple as that. that is why this article is uncontroversial.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:51pm
Nathan of Perth said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:51pm | Report comment
Don’t say that too loudly, there are a lot of Union guys on this site that might hear you!
Good on RL though, glad to see it grow in the world.
August 19th 2011 @ 4:54pm
King of the Gorgonites said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:54pm | Report comment
I am one of those RL guys!
I am also a realist. Compared to RU, RL is no where near the same globally. But compared to AFL, RL wins hands down. I dont always agree with the direction of the international game for RL, but at least RL has an international game.
August 19th 2011 @ 5:02pm
Nathan of Perth said | August 19th 2011 @ 5:02pm | Report comment
Yeah, AFL probably missed the boat being too inward focused, but then again an Australian based sport before the age of proper global travel/communications was probably always going to be up against it.
Rugby League with professional leagues in Aus, England and France is in quite a good situation compared to most sporting codes.
August 19th 2011 @ 6:30pm
clipper said | August 19th 2011 @ 6:30pm | Report comment
I wouldn’t say RL in France is in great competitive state – they’re 200-1 to win the next WC (as opposed to England at 9-1)!
August 20th 2011 @ 9:59am
ClipperWithChipsOnBoth said | August 20th 2011 @ 9:59am | Report comment
Hey clipper, France might be 200/1, but they are moving in the right direction, most games this year, the Catalans have had 12/13 French players in their 17 man squad, so obviously, they are doing something right to be in the top 5.
That will eventually transfer to the national side, I haven’t seen a full strength French team in 11 years, all it takes is one or two injuries to key players and they are no hope, but get the whole team on the field, and they could surprise.
August 19th 2011 @ 1:48pm
The Cattery said | August 19th 2011 @ 1:48pm | Report comment
The author says: “And the likes of Bali, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan should be offered a chance to play against each other…”
Isn’t Bali a part of Indonesia?
August 19th 2011 @ 4:05pm
Jaceman said | August 19th 2011 @ 4:05pm | Report comment
Hindu vrs Muslim issue – sorry I started this – I just had to play the “Matt S” role for a day…
August 20th 2011 @ 2:00pm
Crosscoder said | August 20th 2011 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
The Cattery
Try
http://indonesianrugbylea1.fatcow.com/
August 19th 2011 @ 2:36pm
Crosscoder said | August 19th 2011 @ 2:36pm | Report comment
Good on the Germans for being behind the tournament,You have to start with the youngsters
http://www.rleague.com/content/article.php?id=40755
Notice now in Serbia,with new clubs formed,the current set up sees two divisions (RL World August issue).
1st division sides .Dorcol Spiders,Red Star Belgrade,Car Lazar Krusevac and Radnicki Nova Pazova.
The game is also played in six unis in Belgrade
promotions are occuring in other cities within school such as Niz
Notice in Sth Africa two new club comps were launched in Early Jan 2011,obviously outside the ru season.
Protea Cup: Brakpan Bears,Ermelo Tomahawks,Middleburg Tigers,Germiston Tigers,ERP Falcons,Kempton Wolves
Rhino Cup:Vaal Mambas,VUT Warriors,Springs Vultures,Vaal Vikings,Elsburg Fish Eagles,Bloemfontein Roosters,Pretoria Turks,Vaal Buffaloes.
Agree with RLNut.Having two comps in the USof A is plain crazy.The USARL comp seems to me to be ,more professional in its development,such as the work done by the Jacksonville Axemen (who also have a reserve team),then the older comp the AMNRL.Both comps are expanding,but surely pooliong resources is the way to go,and petty jealousies tossed into the Atlantic and pacific oceans..
The work done in Jamaica in what is really a short time frame amazes me.An academy,schools comp,club comp,uni comp developing and now the national team aiming for a semi pro status.
This development work sort of makes up for the downers such as the Crusaders debacle.
August 19th 2011 @ 5:12pm
Nathan of Perth said | August 19th 2011 @ 5:12pm | Report comment
“Agree with RLNut.Having two comps in the USof A is plain crazy”
In all honesty you probably just need to get over that. It seems to just be a natural part of American professional sports development
August 19th 2011 @ 5:39pm
Ian Whitchurch said | August 19th 2011 @ 5:39pm | Report comment
Heres an idea – have the champions of the two leagues play each other in an end-of-season game … Im sure some other code in the US did this.
August 19th 2011 @ 6:06pm
Crosscoder said | August 19th 2011 @ 6:06pm | Report comment
Understand your naturäl part of american sport’s”.
Trouble is my experience having two comps during the SL war here,has made me very cynical about the issue.
If each comp can grow the game organically,without treading on each other’s toes.I don’t have an issue.
Where I have an issue ATM,is only AMNRL players are considered for the national side.
A similar issue happens in Italy with rugby league.
Getting the code recognised by the Commonwealt Games Federation albeit only the first stage,is a sign of its growth within the Commonwealth countries.The move was instigated by the Nthn Hemisphere.It appears Sthn Hemisphere thinking is behind the 8 ball.
August 19th 2011 @ 3:31pm
Crosscoder said | August 19th 2011 @ 3:31pm | Report comment
An example of Jamaica’s short term growth
http://jamaicarugbyleague.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1&Itemid=25