The Wallabies go into the RWC semis on defence
By Spiro Zavos, 10 Oct 2011 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Wallabies and Will Genia celebrate after winning the Rugby World Cup quarter final against South Africa (AAP Image/Dave Hunt)
Those last few minutes when the Wallabies were protecting their two point lead, 11-9, while trying to keep the Springbok from getting within a drop kick or a penalty shot range were excruciating. It was like having your toe nails and your teeth being extracted at the same time.
As the Wallabies knocked over Springboks runner after runner a Boks supporters behind me noted: ‘The Wallabies are putting on their greatest defensive effort ever.’
Then came the final scrum. There was the agony of wondering if the match could be lost right on the final whistle.
The scrum was just inside the Springboks half. It was probably, but not definitively, out of range for Morne Steyn if a penalty was conceded.
The scrum went down to gasps from the crowd. No penalty. Whew!
A final feed. The Wallaby scrum held. Will Genia got the ball into his hands and booted it as far as he could into the stands.
The stadium erupted as the kick was being made with excited Wallaby supporters jumping up and down, hugging each other (even beefy men) and roaring with delight.
Walking into the stadium on a perfect winter day in Wellington (although it is supposed to be spring), still, fine with not a cloud in the sky and with the cold as sharp as a knife it was wonderful to see groups of supporters of both teams walking in together.
There was none of the bitterness or nastiness that football supporters dump on the opposing supporters.
A volunteer yelled out to the supporters streaming into the stadium: ‘There’s a prediction for the Boks by 12.’
Great roars of approval came from the Springbok supporters.
‘Come on Aussies, put in your prediction,’ the volunteer suggested. But there were no more predictions.
That 12 points call intrigued me because in a ferocious attack on the Springboks coaching staff and team, Mark Keohane predicted a loss to Australia by exactly 12 points. Keohane is a controversial figure in South African rugby.
He is a journalist who wants to be a major player in South African rugby. He has worked for the SARU. He has a website that is often controversial and vitriolic (as I know to my cost when articles of mine have been posted on it).
Keohane said that the Springboks were too old and poorly coached. They did not deserve to remain in the tournament. They had played unimpressive rugby. The Wallabies would be too well-organised and too quick for the old legs of the Springboks. The Wallabies by 12 points.
This argument was interesting because this is what happened in the Wales – Ireland boilover. Ireland played 10 players in their 22 aged over 29. Wales, on the other hand, had 10 players under 23.
The Springboks for their part had 18 players in their tournament 30 from RWC 2007. They were the oldest and most experienced team South Africa has fielded. But they desperately needed players with young legs.
I thought it was a mistake by the Springboks not to play Patrick Lambie at number 10 and Steyn at fullback.
Lambie is young, gifted and has the skills and speed to stretch the defence and split it rather than just bash away at the defensive wall.
In this context, and given the final result of the quarter-final, Australian rugby should be grateful to Robbie Deans who virtually ditched the 2007 team and built, sometimes with painful results, a new team that is clearly competitive in RWC 2011.
Having said that, and acknowledging that a win is a win especially in a knock-out match, the fact is that the Wallabies made very hard weather of defeating the Springboks.
They played at times so slowly that it looked as if they were playing in slow motion. This slow game helped keep the Springboks in the game.
When the Wallabies did open up, they split the Springboks easily as Keohane suggested they would.
After establishing an 8 – 0 lead, the Wallabies kept on kicking the ball back to the Springboks. My belief is that you can’t score points when the other team has the ball, so why kick it to them?
It was 27 minutes before the Springboks had their first kicking penalty, which Steyn converted.
Both sides kept dropping the ball. My theory on this was that the bitter cold was making handling the dry ball quite difficult.
At half-time I heard an Australian supporter call out to his mate: ‘We’re kicking too much.’ Quite right, I thought.
With about 30 minutes to play the Springboks finally did what Keohane said they should have done at the beginning: they brought on Bismarck du Plessis.
At the first scrum he packed down, the Springboks got their first penalty from monstering the Wallaby scrum. Then he charged down a drop out and Jean de Villers from a series of South Africans attacks let the Wallabies off the hook by passing forward as the Springboks went across for a try.
The energised Springboks kicked a penalty and a drop goal, taking the men in green to an unlikely 9 – 8 lead.
Springboks supporters who had sat mute for much of the time suddenly came to life. They roared their heads off. And just as suddenly the Springbok forwards seemed to be charged with a shot of adrenalin. They ran like school boys from lineout to lineout and from ruck to ruck.
The game looked as if it had passed away from the Wallabies. But then the Springboks made the fatal mistake of starting their kicking game.
Quade Cooper, who played poorly while being booed every time he touched the ball, bravely ran into the big Springboks runners. The Wallabies surged back. They forced a lineout. Radike Samo was slammed to the ground while taking a lineout throw.
I wrote in my notebook that James O’Connor, about 35m out and on an angle, was confronting the ‘most important kick of his life.’ You knew that if the kick went over, the Wallabies would probably win. If he missed, the Wallabies were going to lose.
The kick was as straight and true as if it were an arrow shot from a longbow.
Then came those agonising final minutes as the Wallabies made tackle after tackle, not missing one, often ganging up on a Springboks runner and driving him back into the turf.
And finally the last scrum and Genia’s kick into the stands.
Walking out of the stadium, with morose Springboks supporters telling each other how they did not fancy being ear-bashed by jubilant Wallaby supporters, I saw a man dressed in black gear carrying a placard: ‘We don’t care who wins here. C’mon the All Blacks.’
A well-dressed businessman type passed me as I pressed on to get home to see the tough All Blacks – Argentina match.
He was talking into his mobile: ‘It’s all on for Eden Park next Sunday .. ‘ he was saying.
Bring it on!
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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October 10th 2011 @ 6:47am
Viscount Crouchback said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:47am | Report comment
I find ref-bashing quite boring but, as a neutral, I simply couldn’t believe how poorly Bryce Lawrence refereed the breakdown. Paddy O’Brien claimed recently that no referee has ever decided a world cup match but that is now clearly absolute nonsense. Lawrence won this game for the Wallabies.
The pre-match whinging obviously had the desired effect on Lawrence’s psyche. There was an early scrum when the Boks splintered the Wallabies pack: it was a clear penalty for South Africa but Lawrence merely called for a re-set and that’s when I thought: “Ah, the reaction to the Ireland game has obviously got to him”.
And sure enough, he simply refused to referee the breakdown. The Australians were allowed to get away with absolute murder. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the ruck refereed so negligently (not outside the Top 14 anyway). It was carnage. All those red zone turnovers by Pocock were absolutely brilliant but they were only able to happen
because the Australian tacklers were allowed not to roll away by Lawrence. They should have been pinged off the park.
The curious thing is that he was very, very strict in his first match when England went off their feet and loitered offside against Argentina (and were rightly pinged for it) but when the Aussies committed the same offences all match yesterday – nothing.
The Springboks must be sick.
I think for the sake of rugby we need an NZ-Wales final because it would be a grotesque injustice if two of the worst performing teams in the tournament – Australia and France – somehow fluked their way to a final.
October 10th 2011 @ 6:51am
mikeylives said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:51am | Report comment
Viscount – Write that comment again after taking the bitter lemon out of your mouth.
October 10th 2011 @ 6:58am
Colin N said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:58am | Report comment
But he’s right.
The most criminal mistake by Lawrence was when the Springboks got within inches of the line, Burger (I believe) carried the ball into a pack of Wallabies (who were well offside anyway). Pocock was part of the tackle, never released, had his hands on the ball and subsequently turned it over illegally. It should have been a yellow and a penalty in front of the posts.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:19am
cookee said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:19am | Report comment
VISCOUNT,absolutely,but still feel bok could have won this game with a tad more smarts tactically and old fashioned patience
wasnt quade cooper a mess ;will barnes play ten in semis
October 10th 2011 @ 1:25pm
B-Rock said | October 10th 2011 @ 1:25pm | Report comment
I came to the conclusion watching the wallabies game that Lawrence has no agenda or bias – he is just rubbish. He had a terrible match, but the poor decisions were not as one sided as the press and roarers make it out to be – both teams had several horrible decisions go against them.
IMO It appears the boks got the raw end of it for two reasons:
– The boks lost
– Pocock dominated in a free for all breakdown all game while Brussow was was injured early on.
If the WBs lost, I would be feeling as robbed as Im sure the SA fans are today. Saying that, If you cant score a single try with more than 75% territory and 60% of the pill you dont deserve to win. Lawrence contributed to this, but the poor Boks attack / exceptional WBs defense was also very important. SA were waiting for the seemingly inevitable penalties without threatening the line enough. Other than the disalowed Lambe try (which was borderline) I cant remember too many real try scoring opportunities for the Boks given the weight of teritory and posession.
Something has to be done about the inconsistency of refereeing across the RWC – every game is interpereted completely differently – how are players and coaches supposed to prepare when even the same ref can drastically alter their approach from game to game, and different refs clearly vary dramatically.
October 11th 2011 @ 1:57am
steve said | October 11th 2011 @ 1:57am | Report comment
and why was brussow injured??? because vickerman charged into a ruck with no arms, same offense that had bakkies sitting on the side line for 4 weeks.
October 11th 2011 @ 2:05am
mattamkII said | October 11th 2011 @ 2:05am | Report comment
steve, what are you talking about? Watch the replay SLOWLY. The ruck Brossow was injured from, Vickerman made not contact with him at all…none, nada and nill.
Unless he was injured prior to the ruck just before he came off you are barking up the wrong tree pal
October 10th 2011 @ 2:37pm
Mike said | October 10th 2011 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
Good to see the usual Wallaby hating from Viscount, but as usual his comments are way wide of the mark.
“Australian were allowed to get away with murder” – you didn’t actually watch the game, did you?
“There was an early scrum when the Boks splintered the Wallabies pack: it was a clear penalty for South Africa but Lawrence merely called for a re-set …” – No, they didn’t “splinter” it, except in your own mind, and the re-set was the right thing to do.
“Lawrence won this game for the Wallabies.” – and there are fairies at the bottom of the garden.
There were in fact plenty of bokke infringements. But they didn’t have the firepower to break through. So sad, too bad for all the Wallaby-haters, but that’s the way it goes.
October 10th 2011 @ 5:17pm
Sage said | October 10th 2011 @ 5:17pm | Report comment
No, he’s not right Col. You may agree with his billious rant but that doesn’t make him right. There is no argument that Bryce had a shocker but it went both ways without a shadow of a doubt. He was plain awful and there were shocking decisions meted out to both sides but as usual The Crouchbacked One only has eyes for Australia. I do get quite quite flattered actually with all the attention but his subjectivity does get rather boorish. At least the greatest of possible grotesque injustices has already been avoided with Englands departure
October 10th 2011 @ 10:40pm
Colin N said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:40pm | Report comment
We’ll have to agree to disagree. From a neutral’s perspective I thought South Africa were harshly done by and the crucial decisions went Australia’s way.
They didn’t lose because of him but he certainly didn’t help.
October 14th 2011 @ 8:17am
Mike said | October 14th 2011 @ 8:17am | Report comment
We will indeed.
South Africa did very well out of Lawrence, as was expected. His loose style favoured the Boks and worked against the Wallabies, just as it did in recent games against Ireland a month ago, and against the Boks two months ago. Which is not to complain against the result in the pools – Ireland played a smart game and beat us fair and square.
But to now see Saffas complaining about Lawrence is ironic from an Australian POV. He was the best referee the Boks could have had.
On Sunday Boks played a great game, they really put in the effort, although perhaps not sticking to their game plan when they declined to take penalty shots and instead kicked for touch.
But they did very well, given that their recent record against Australia has not been good, and they were hard hit by injury.
The people complaining that Lawrence’s decisions favoured the Wallabies are only looking at short portions of the game. You have to look at the whole game.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:32am
Pot Hale said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:32am | Report comment
What’s bitter about it?
Many Australian fans couldn’t believe they had won the match, and it certainly wasn’t down to any kind of “real rugby” like that played yesterday apparently, according to Spiro’s description of the first two quarter-finals.
Ugly rugby won in today’s quarter-final with a lot of cheating/smart play (take your pick) at the breakdown. Having an incompetent referee who couldn’t spot it just makes it worse.
It’s worth noting that in the RWC, leaving aside the expected blowouts against the lesser ranked teams, the No 2 ranked Wallabies have scored a total of 1 try against the bigger teams of the Top 8 ranked. And importantly, they’ve conceded none.
France lost two of their pool games and have scored 4 tries against Top 8 opposition and conceded 7.
NZ have scored 7 and conceded 3. Wales 4 and 3.
At the business-end of the tournament, defensive-minded teams like Australia may well win through. But their lack of try-scoring may well work against them.
Hopefully, the more attack-minded teams make it through to the final. The ones playing real rugby as Spiro would describe it.
Maybe Australia will surprise us all yet.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:40am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:40am | Report comment
Pot Hale the inability for the ABs to cross the Pumas line for much of the match until they finaly cracked doesn’t have them in good attacking mode either and with the loss of Carter and now Slade? the disruption they face is big.
Cruden played well when he came on but the question of whether he can step up in the Semi, nerves playing on his mind and facing a side that can (flip a coin!) beat the ABs too me, well its a big ask of the kid with his saving grace being the combinational links between himself, Smith, Nonu and Weepu but this will be a very big step up from a Super 15 tryathon.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:44am
Pot Hale said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:44am | Report comment
Don’t disagree with you warren. Maybe it’ll be up to the NH teams to show the way in how to play attack-minded rugby.
Who’d have thought that before the RWC?
October 10th 2011 @ 7:56am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:56am | Report comment
Pot Hale, the Welsh are my pick to win the RWC on form and this is after I wagered my betting head money (heart obviously with the Wallabies) on England.
I have heard posters take a dig at their slowing down of the ball but that is absolutely no different to other teams as we saw last night.
To the Kiwi fans, yes you do it also but have a look at your guard dogs cleaning out rucks 5m in front!!! I guess you don’t have to seal the ball in if you are tackling players before they get to the ruck eh fellas.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:39am
Jerry said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:39am | Report comment
All due respect to the Irish, but I think people are over-stating the Welsh form. Beating Ireland was a good result, but it doesn’t make them world beaters.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:41am
johnny-boy said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:41am | Report comment
We have to stop agreeing Jerry. It’s not right. France were good but not amazing as they can be, which indicates they still have a bit left.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:48am
Jerry said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Uh…..POCOCK is a cheat!!!!
Better?
October 10th 2011 @ 9:03am
terrykidd said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:03am | Report comment
Nice one Pots … said very tongue in cheek. By the way, I backed Ireland … thats twice now they have cost me some hard earned … but Wales played all over them … was a great game to watch.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:12am
Galaxy Hop said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:12am | Report comment
“cleaning out rucks 5m in front!!!”
I’ve noticed this. They really are the only team that really seems to do this. You see all the teams coming in the side or not rolling etc rom time to time, but the All Blacks consistently clean out rucks that don’t exist.
October 10th 2011 @ 4:47pm
Wal the Hooker said | October 10th 2011 @ 4:47pm | Report comment
Fair call Pots, Wales and Ireland have been great and what can you say about the French revival but WOW!
Er geez Warren that’s a bit rich mate, cleaning out rucks 5M in front eh. Hmm what game was that mate. Against the Argies? Oh I guess you mean for the last 100 years eh! You and Peter K must be soul buddies.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:26am
cookee said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:26am | Report comment
the loss of slade and mils makes wayne smiths mistakes a non event hopefully.
October 10th 2011 @ 1:42pm
Kane said | October 10th 2011 @ 1:42pm | Report comment
I dont believe the All Blacks would have shown anything in that game last night unless they were behind with 20 to go
October 10th 2011 @ 5:04pm
Wal the Hooker said | October 10th 2011 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
Mate give credit to the Argies resolute defence! They were gallant, organised and tough, the AB’s still knuckled down and scored tries. The defence and line speed for the Pumas was outstanding, and would’ve blunted any team’s attack even an AB side with Carter. The Pumas deserve some pats on the back for their staunch effort.
Thought Cruden did well and it’s a big ask for anybody in World rugby to fill DC’s shoes boots. But I reckon the kid will go alright he was riding his skateboard only 10 days ago and would probably be very excited. As you say with his Cane’s mates inside and outside, that can’t be a bad thing. With Weepu’s boot on target, this a huge plus for NZ. The AB’s set piece was very impressive and they will definitely turn the heat on the WB scrum. O Franks was in monster form…. Should be a cracker
October 10th 2011 @ 8:11am
mikeylives said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:11am | Report comment
What was bitter? Maybe something about the fact that he is suggesting the ref favoured the Australians in regards to the scrums and breakdowns. The scrum was pretty even throughout the match. SA got a penalty when Alexander popped and Aus did not get the feed when we screwed them past 90 degrees.
Sure – Pocock got away with one on the tryline (which was missed by officials). But so did Berger when he came offside and pulled Pocock out of the ruck by his head 10m for their line.
Digby taken out after a chip (yellow card).
Wallaby catchers taken out in the air.
Blah blah blah. Bitter lemons.
SA (without Brussow) couldn’t capitolise on their huge posession. They fumbled in contact near the line twice.
Australia won thanks a massive defensive effort – Not thanks to the ref.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:52am
Pot Hale said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:52am | Report comment
“Sure – Pocock got away with one on the tryline (which was missed by officials). But so did Berger when he came offside and pulled Pocock out of the ruck by his head 10m for their line.
Digby taken out after a chip (yellow card).
Wallaby catchers taken out in the air.
Blah blah blah. Bitter lemons.”
No those aren’t bitter lemons. Those are Wallaby whinges. There’s a big difference.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:48am
soapit said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:48am | Report comment
if you’re going to point out all the decisions that went australis way you’ve got to accept people pointing out the things that went against us without calling them whingers.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:41am
NickF said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Bryce Lawrence didn’t have a great game, but I would say it went both ways.
With over 70% territory and more than 60% possesion, the Boks had their chance to win. The defensive effort of the Wallabies won the game, not Lawrence.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:47am
TembaVJ said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Sure NickF the 76% of the time they spent in the Aussie halve they were slowing down their own ball. Saying it went both ways when when Austrlia attacked the line 1/3 as much as the boks while spending 3/4 part of the game in your half is BS. It was not both ways, it heavily favoured the Wallabiies
October 10th 2011 @ 10:50am
Justin said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:50am | Report comment
Keep whinging Temba!!!!!!!!!
October 10th 2011 @ 11:06am
NickF said | October 10th 2011 @ 11:06am | Report comment
Temba, credit where credit is due.
After the game John Eales was commenting on the game and said that the Wallabies were’nt the better team but then stopped himself and said “no, they were the better team, they got the points”.
The Boks were very good, but the Wallabies got the points, that’s all that matters.
October 10th 2011 @ 11:27am
vaguely said | October 10th 2011 @ 11:27am | Report comment
But it did go both ways, Temba.
If some of those Lawrence calls went the Wallabies way they would have found themselves with the ball in the Boks half and might not have kicked the ball away.
Game changing moments, and all that.
The fact both sides thought they were cheated by the ref shows that he had a shocker.
October 10th 2011 @ 5:18pm
hannibal said | October 10th 2011 @ 5:18pm | Report comment
Viscount! I think you need to watch the game again to see what the Boks got away with. Shall we remember:
- the prostrate Habana’s tap down of the ball out of Genia’s hands that resulted in no penalty (let alone a potential yellow)
- the three separate penalisable offences by the Boks at the line out that brought down DK
- the way a Bok defender nearly took Genia’s (or Beale’s? – cant remember the player) head off while he was off the ground accepting a kick
- or the way 2 to 3 Bok forwards would fall off their feet over the ball at each ruck. At least Pocock was on his feet most of the time.
etc etc
The point is Lawrence’s reffing went both ways. There may have been anarchy at the ruck but both sides had the same leeway. The Boks perhaps more given their lower penalty count despite these examples above. The fact is that one team on the day reacted better to the way the game was being allowed to be played and they won and the other team despite 80% of territory couldn’t create anything out of it. Well done to the Wallabies for standing up!
This was a game that will be talked about for some years. I will wager that future sides will study the Wallaby defence, their agression and structures and Pocock’s performance in particular in this game when preparing for future world cups. This was a victory of guts and courage against the formulaic Bok game plan of pressure = territory = points. Some sides have moved on.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:12pm
Sandy B said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:12pm | Report comment
what about the early charge by JPP for the JOC conversion. How did Bryce let that one go?
October 10th 2011 @ 11:04pm
Galaxy Hop said | October 10th 2011 @ 11:04pm | Report comment
Yeah, I was wondering about that. Does anybody know the law there?
October 10th 2011 @ 7:07am
Darwin Stubby said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:07am | Report comment
Very true – all 4 games the breakdown wasn’t policed …
October 10th 2011 @ 7:29am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:29am | Report comment
DS the referreing standard has been poor by most RWC refs and it has made the breakdown a lottery again after the strides taken forward to remove that blight on the game.
VC I think you were watching the game with rose coloured glasses on. The refereeing decisions were poor both ways.
To even up your argument Australia denied twice by a knock odown and knock forward by the Boks when on attack near/on their 22. The little issue of taking a player in the air was also missed, Digby Ioanne did as best as he could in that situation. Charging down a kicker before he actually moves into kick? You also had both sides going off their feet consistently at the breakdown with the most obvious occuring when the Boks were on attack and not one but three Bok players dived off their feet to seal the ball in.
I agree the Boks were the better attacking side on the night but the Wallabies were pretty superb defensively.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:21am
sph45 said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:21am | Report comment
And what about, was it JP Peiterson (spelling) and Adam Ashley Cooper literally wrestling for the ball within the Springbok 22, with JP on the ground and AAC on his feet, with no one else around! VC – I find ref bashing quite boring too. Perhaps we should talk about the rugby huh?
October 10th 2011 @ 12:53pm
Hopperdoggy said | October 10th 2011 @ 12:53pm | Report comment
Agree Warren – suprised there’s not more mention of going off the feet. Scrum decisions and tacklers releasing are often in the eye of the beholder, but the blatant dives into the ruck with no intention of attempting to stay on their feet was apparent throughout the game by both sides.
Maybe that’s why the SAFFA supporters aren’t bringing it up……..
October 10th 2011 @ 7:42am
Charging Rhino said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:42am | Report comment
Well said Viscount. Pretty accurate.
Wallabies had a few calls go against them from poor calls, or simply no calls but nothing like SA. The sounds of many Aussies moaning at him after the Ireland game must’ve got to him and he appeared just too scared to blow anything. What was that allowing the Aussies forwards to fall down and collapse every maul after a lineout purposefully to avoid a driving maul…. penalisable offense. Amongst many other infringements but I don’t want to be one of those guys to blame the ref because that is poor form and I honestly don’t think the Boks lost because of him. It’s just frustrating having the inconsistency from one game to the next… for both teams on the field.
On the other hand you could argue that his reffing allowed for one HELLEVA scrap at the breakdown which actually was conducive to a very tight, tense game and the breakdown was anyone’s ball. Which is how I remember playing rugby. It was a cracking tense affair, no need for tries when a rugby game is like that. Far more tense and entertaining than watching the All Blacks score a couple of tries at the end of their game….. And who ever said that a game won by kicking was boring???!!
Congratulations to Australia. Credit where credit is due. They held on for their dear lives and their defence was immense. Boks made some mistakes at crucial moments and these cost them in the end. Wallabies converted just a sniff of an opportunity into points and made it count. Pocock was fantastic, although sometimes very illegal but great on him. He was brilliant and played to the whistle.
I have however never seen a team be so dominant in every facet of play and still manage to lose the game. Almost beyond belief. How did the Boks lose that game?
Well done Australia. I wish you the best of luck for the rest of tournament and I will be supporting you …. well I kinda have to, my wife’s Australian!!
it wasn’t the happiest day after that game I must say. ha ha. We even watched separately.. lol
Congratulations again Aussies. Enjoy it. Don’t gloat too much please. The Boks time will come again. Wallabies lost in extra time in ’03 and after having most territory and possession lost in ’07 too so maybe this was their time.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:52am
TembaVj said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:52am | Report comment
I don’t mind the scrap, what gets me is we lost our scrapper from a bakkies style thugby player steaming head first into a ruck…. Hey smile at least we are done with PDV
October 10th 2011 @ 8:37am
johnny-boy said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:37am | Report comment
The irony of an ex south african doing that Temba is as delicious as – cointreau drizzled mango
October 10th 2011 @ 9:13am
TembaVJ said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Johnny-boy… so true, the irony of it all.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:52am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:52am | Report comment
I appreciate your frustration Charging Rhino and your level views. As I posted last night the better side did not win last night but neither did rugby as penalties that should have been given weren’t and basic misses like knock ons were ignored?
I applaud the guys, Wallabies, staunch defence, at times it was illegal but like any supporter I could see the reverse calls not made for Aussie. I have a Bok mate who I am truly gutted for as his passion is rugby and the conversations I have with him, by text mainly now, on rugby are filled with good banter and an admiration for our teams. Winning ugly is okay, winning that ugly, well it doesn’t feel like a win but a second chance to click.
To all the retiring Bok players, Matfield in particular and Peter DV. Well done on being great servants of the game for SA and making our encounters ones to remember. Special note to Bryan Habana, take what he has running through his viens and inject into any player that isn’t quite there, a tough man and played brillantly even after seeing the milkyway for much of the game.
October 10th 2011 @ 12:42pm
Wally James said | October 10th 2011 @ 12:42pm | Report comment
Rhino
A gracious post. Well done
Cheers
Wal
October 10th 2011 @ 7:48am
sheek said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:48am | Report comment
VC,
I’m with you here – New Zealand & Wales are the two best performed teams at this world cup. The Dragons narrow loss to the Boks was an aberration. The ABs & Red Dragons should face off in the final.
I guess the worry for fans generally, & perhaps a glimmer of hope for Wallabies fans, is that Australia is the new France (which team will turn up?), while France are, well, ….. France.
Interesting to note that 3 pool runners-up have progressed to the semi-final sage. That’s definitely a first. The ABs are the only pool winners in the semis.
England from memory are the only previous runner-up to make the semis, which they did twice (1991 & 2007), going straight to the final.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:39am
johnny-boy said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Keep talking the Wallabies to underdogs and the All Blacks up to favorites Sheek. You’re doing a great job.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:02am
sheek said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:02am | Report comment
johnny-boy,
I’m just expressing my opinion. I don’t care for playing mind games, I call it as i see it…..
October 10th 2011 @ 9:53pm
Cliff (Bishkek) said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:53pm | Report comment
Sheek,
Mate – I might agree – but knockout comps do not necessarily mean that the best performed teams are the ones that get the Silverware.
It is a system on one glitch and any time furing a game, and it is called “On an aeroplane home”.
Now for Sunday – were we or were we not the better team. The Wallabies had my guts in my mouth. But – someone said that Lambies call for “forward” was borderline. That person has to be cross-eyed. The other forward pass was borderline – bUT – DV’s to Lambie definitely was.
But we had a game of Territory & Possession greatly favouring the Saffas. The Wallabies tackled and tackled and tackled. We scored the only try – so WHO WAS THE BETTER TEAM.
As far as I am concerned Deans & the Wallabies do not deserve to win the RWC and I still disagree with keeping Deans for another 3 years – BUT – knockout – and we have beaten the ABs and we can do it again. And as you say – if the Aussie style Frenchies turn up to play and Cooper and Genia dleiver ball – then the ABs may be concerned.
Also winning the RWC may be the worst HAPPENING for futre Aussie Rugby Development.
If we get in front – the ABs may “a waltzing matilda come a CHOKING”.
Cheers
October 14th 2011 @ 1:04am
liam said | October 14th 2011 @ 1:04am | Report comment
cheers for the choking jibe and the reinforcement of the aussie stereotype
October 10th 2011 @ 7:56am
ABFAN said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:56am | Report comment
If that’s true then the N.Owens won the game for the S.Africa against Samoa the week before then.
S.A didn’t convert their chances into points and the Wallabies took theirs
I’m a bit worry about our ABS against AUssiethis week, I just hope we front up otherwise Aussie all the way.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:30am
mace22 said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:30am | Report comment
get real ABFAN the wallabies were lucky out played most of the game, defended well against a bok team with no attacking skill. Two tries dissallowed because of forward passes. All blacks in a real test match ground down pumas won by twenty three points. Australia the prefered semi’s if it was the boks then i’d be worried. All blacks with ease this weekend. Keep your spirits up ABFAN nothing to worry about.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:01am
ABFAN said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:01am | Report comment
true that Mace, I’m just nervous with RWC Semi-final and the Wallabies….the aussies always seems to get up against the mighty ABs at semi-final time in the RWC
fingers crossed, it should be a cracker!!!
GO the mighty ABs
October 10th 2011 @ 10:39am
happychap said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Nothing to worry about? Uh oh.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:50am
Lionel Gamba said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:50am | Report comment
October 10th 2011 @ 9:19am
Lyon said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Nice post and I agree with what you are saying although in the end the ref impacting a game in the knockout stages of the world cup is about as predictable as the French knocking out a team that should beat them.
I think the main thing to remember out of all of this though is that the kiwi supporters never have to put up with the Aussie supporters accussing McCaw in particular but the AB forward pack as a whole of getting away with murder at the breakdown because we can now retort with this
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October 10th 2011 @ 9:38am
Uncle Argyle said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:38am | Report comment
What a great morning it is VC,
I agree with you that Bryce Lawrence had a very ordinary game, in fact in hind sight is he really one of the top four ref’s in the world that would be be-fitting of him to officiate such an inportant match. My submission would be no.
As for the refering in particular to the break down where Australia infringed and got away with murder, according to you. How do you explain Schalk Burger lying on the ground, in front of the ball, pulling Wallaby defenders out of the maul? What about Victor Matfield also lying on the ground grabbing Wallaby into a headlock and pulling him into the maul? All in front of Bryce himself? How offisde were the Bok’s? What about Morne bumping Digby after his chip, well after. Then Dannie Roussouw holding onto the ball on the ground whilst Kurtley Beale is on his feet contesting for the ball. Then on Mr Roussow what about him comming through the wallaby back line and knocking the ball forward, wallaby knock on? The Bryan Habana’s tap down??? Then Back to daniie Roussow tipping Samo in the line out how was that not a yellow card? its foul dangerous play is it not?
Whilst I agree Australia’s attack has not been performing their defence was outstanding yesteday and was a tribute to their charachter. Defence is just as much a part of the game and I don’t consider that defencive effort a fluke. The Wallaby game plan was pretty clear, almost like the wallaby tacticts of 1986 when they beat the All Blacks last at Eden park. Keep the ball in the air and chase, it keeps both the ref and the big Bok pack out of the game in your red zone. To an extent it worked.
But to call the Wallaby effort a fluke is insulting. South Africa were magnificent in defeat and rightfully should be gutted becuase they won the collision and destroyed our line out. However at the end of they day they lost, the ref was poor to both sides yet Australia took their chances and NEVER GAVE IN. This is a championship winning attribute not a fluke.
October 10th 2011 @ 1:43pm
Aware said | October 10th 2011 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
I’d like a hot breakfast for every time someone complained about a loss and blamed it on the referee. Refereeing decisions can be interpreted any way you wish. Whatever anyone says, the Springboks didn’t win. Read about in the papers and suck it up. The best team won because they refused to be beaten. End of story.
October 10th 2011 @ 3:12pm
John said | October 10th 2011 @ 3:12pm | Report comment
Absolutely spot on here. South Africa edged closer and closer to the line, but hands in the ruck caused turnovers to occur. In fact I can spot 3 mistakes by the referee just on the highlights alone. 1 example was Brussow being tackled from an offside No5. How is it possible to turnover a ball when all of the Australian forwards are on the ground? The referee single handedly destroyed this game… Australia did well to defend, but it was made easy by the recklessness of the referee in not blowing infringements. I think anyone with rugby knowledge could pick it up as clear as day on the tv…
Ps, I’m Australian
October 10th 2011 @ 3:37pm
Mike said | October 10th 2011 @ 3:37pm | Report comment
“The referee single handedly destroyed this game…” In your own words, anyone with rugby knowledge wouldn’t have written that.
Most of the hands in the ruck (or probable hands in the ruck) that I saw were South African, as were most of the cases of players entering from the side of the ruck.
“South Africa edged closer and closer to the line, but hands in the ruck caused turnovers to occur.” ???? You need to learn the rules. What the Australian forwards were doing is called “contesting the breakdown”, not “hands in the ruck”. It is perfectly legitimate and it is normally something the Boks pride themselves on, however in this case their opponents proved at least as good at it as they were. Probably better.
“Ps, I’m Australian” P.S, good for you.
October 10th 2011 @ 4:49pm
Aware said | October 10th 2011 @ 4:49pm | Report comment
PS I’m Australian probably a Kiwi on the dole in Western Sydney.
October 14th 2011 @ 1:07am
liam said | October 14th 2011 @ 1:07am | Report comment
a truly gallant post
October 10th 2011 @ 4:43pm
MR said | October 10th 2011 @ 4:43pm | Report comment
Agree entirely crap on sided ref by Bryce, embarrassment to kiwi reffing, very impressed with SA fans as have taken crap reffing in stride unlike Aus & Nz fans who scream blue murder if ref makes any bad calls
October 10th 2011 @ 5:33pm
Sage said | October 10th 2011 @ 5:33pm | Report comment
This is an Aussie site MR. Go and check out Keo if you think it’s all been taken in stride. Generally though I agree, the response has been admirable, especially here. Some classy players leaving the arena now and I will miss them. Matfield, Habana, De Villiiers, Du Preez et all. Well done and thanks for your classy performances on and off the field
October 10th 2011 @ 8:56pm
Aware said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:56pm | Report comment
MR, If you’re going to accuse the refs of corruption you might as well say the whole competition is bent….which is possible I suppose.
October 10th 2011 @ 5:35pm
Bobby said | October 10th 2011 @ 5:35pm | Report comment
Did you watch this game. David Pocock should have got at least 5 penalties for the tackled player holding on. Two South African scrums wheeled past 90 and they were given the ball back. Habana’s knock down, the numerous knock ons by SA that were missed, Matfield when he reached back and pulled the ball back into the ruck, We didn’t get another shot at the conversion when O’Connor missed it which we should have due to Pieterson charging early, there were numerous decisions. But I also agree there were others in favour as well. No side can claim they were dudded by this useless ref. The only people to do so are bitter people that couldn’t see reality if walked up to them and slapped them in the nose. Great defensive effort from the boys and that will be required next week with a mass improvement on our attacking skill. Suck it up Saffas.
October 10th 2011 @ 6:26pm
TommyM said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:26pm | Report comment
Finally someone commented on this. Exactly- there were few penalties given at the breakdown at all. Pocock could have given away 5 and won 5 others easily. The point is that he was playing the referee perfectly. I recall at least on 3 occasions seeing him standing with his hands on the ball and his head up and asking the ref straight out for the penalty. In each case, Lawrence just told him to let go. Either he had his hands on clean or he didn’t- should really be a penalty one way or the other. But the ref decided to play it more freely, like Joubert did in his semi.
October 10th 2011 @ 6:49am
mikeylives said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:49am | Report comment
Very gutsy performance. Cooper needs to look away from the headlights, ignore the jeers and play with a bit of authority next week if we are any chance.
Pocock. What a legend.
I hope Deans has a few chats about retaining posession during the week.
October 10th 2011 @ 6:55am
SA said | October 10th 2011 @ 6:55am | Report comment
I agree VC, The wallabies were allowed to get away with murder, but full credit to them for getting away with it. That was the worst refereeing i have ever seen in a rugby game Lawrence was disgraceful. Well played South Africa and Australia. Goodluck with the rest of the tournament Australia all the best from this sad bok fan.
October 10th 2011 @ 11:01am
NickF said | October 10th 2011 @ 11:01am | Report comment
“That was the worst refereeing i have ever seen in a rugby game”.
Really?
October 10th 2011 @ 11:35am
vaguely said | October 10th 2011 @ 11:35am | Report comment
It’s up there…
October 10th 2011 @ 7:01am
Matt B said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:01am | Report comment
Oh but Viscount, don’t good teams adjust to the ref? England gone. SA gone. Life is grand!
October 10th 2011 @ 7:02am
Isaminger said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:02am | Report comment
Viscount, I agree that the ruck was ref’d poorly, but surely you cannot say that Australia were the only team killing the breakdown. I think it went both ways. The Boks were diving in and going straight down many, many times without Mr Lawerance calling it up. I think that once BOTH teams knew how lightly the ruck was being policed, they milked it for all it was worth. Plenty of hands in there from both SA and Australia too. The Aussies were lucky with this one, but not because of the Ref.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:10am
allblackfan said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:10am | Report comment
You think Bryce Lawrence was bad?!? You should see Nigel Owen in action!!
October 10th 2011 @ 7:35am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:35am | Report comment
AB fan it is pretty bad when normaly good referees have slipped so badly to miss obvious offsides, ruck infringements solely because of their bosses directive. There is a moment were I remember Wayne Barnes looking at a ruck whilst a player is leaning in slowing the ball down, his AF only 10m away as well. He then turns his back to concentrate on the off side line.
From that point and seeing several other ones, Kaplan very noticeable from his normal vigilant breakdown rulings that they, the refs were doing as they are told.
If Joubert gets the semi between the ABs v Wallabies I hope he lifts the middle finger to the IRB and refs in his style.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:30pm
Hannibal said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:30pm | Report comment
Quite obviously in the knock out stages of the world cup refs have been instructed to only penalize blatant offences such that questionable penalties don’t decide the cup. The refs aren’t blind – they see many of these things being mentioned but are prioritizing other things. Let’s see if they are a bit tighter for the semi’s. I suspect so after this round.
All teams see the same matches and get the same instructions on focus areas pre game from the refs so you can only argue that either the boks failed to adjust their game plan or were less effective than the WBs in doing so. Either way it’s a level playing field out there and both the end score and the try tally to each side support that the most effective team won the day – just. People should focus on what counts (the score, the relative number of tries and penalties) rather than what’s counted (territory, possession, ruck counts, etc etc). On the former the WBs won.
The boks had their chances to win. Near tries on 2 occasions. In one case determined defense knocked the ball from Du Preez and in the other the Boks killed it themselves with a forward pass. On another day maybe one of those might have come off but not on Sunday. The point is reffing didn’t decide this game- execution did. The WBs had one chance to score and took it and that was enough in the end to nudge them through. Well done boys. And congratulations to the Boks as well for one of the most intense RWC quarter finals ever. As the score showed these teams are so close despite different styles. Most games between them are amazing contests.
October 10th 2011 @ 10:07pm
Mike said | October 10th 2011 @ 10:07pm | Report comment
“And congratulations to the Boks as well for one of the most intense RWC quarter finals ever. As the score showed these teams are so close despite different styles. Most games between them are amazing contests.”
Hear hear
October 10th 2011 @ 7:37am
short-Blind said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:37am | Report comment
Not pretty but that’s ‘knock out Rugby’. VC both teams Played the rucks the same – the difference and turning point IMHO was Brussouw going off and not being there to counter Pocock. look at McCaw et al last night – just as bad. The Wallabies cannot play that bad again and are still yet to click – that will be worrying G Henry. The AB were not that convincing last night. wallabies will Ned to fix:
1. cooper’s head – he is not clear on the structures and game plan and thus his play and kicking were woeful. If I were Robbie I would be flying over the bloke who knows him best ( mr McKenzie) to do some horse whispering but RDs ego won’t allow it.
2. Genia and cooper’s kicking and the team chase – poor and aimless. They must play ball in hand unless an effective kick can be produced.
3. Line out – the AB won’t be as competitive and we will need good 1st phase possession to win.
4. Get the ball into Digby and JOC’s hands more often
5. Get a good masseuse and let the forwards know they have to turn up again next week
October 10th 2011 @ 7:43am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:43am | Report comment
SB I think you will find that McKenzie and Deans do talk, possibly even now on what is good for the Wallabies. Deans is a smart man and with his squad comprising a lot of the in form Reds players the obvious choice for him was to discuss with McKenzie what made them tick and how to keep that going.
I would offer that McKenzie will be having a flea in Quades ear this week at the request of Deans.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:48am
johnny-boy said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Very good short blind. There was one point in the Super XV season where Cooper threw an insane back door pass behind himself about 10m from his line – straight in to the hands of AntF who calmly collected it and booted it up field. Cooper obviously is not comfortable and the most important things he needs now, IF he gets selected, is to make him feel as comfortable and confident as possible. Ant F or Ben Tapaui are those guys. Barnes is the perfect 10 or 12 later in the game steadier and backup. An extra week for Ioane to feel more comfortable with his thumb is a big big plus.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:50am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Ioanne will be so much better for the run last night and he can really worry the ABs inside channels.
October 10th 2011 @ 7:50am
paul foley said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:50am | Report comment
No doubt the referee did have an influence on the outcome but the blatant injustice of how Argentina was treated was worse in my view .. I dont think spectators mind errors from refs or even downright incompetence but perceptions of bias is another story and is becoming increasingly obvious.
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October 10th 2011 @ 8:01am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:01am | Report comment
I would pay a contribution to any trainspotter, with the time and suitable rugby pedigree to watch games such as Fiji v Wales, Samoa v Boks, Wallabies v Italy, ABs v Canada and Argies and dissect the penalty count, why given, when missed and for who then present the facts to Paddy O’Brien as the door smacks his arse on the way out.
The only game I have seen refereed with almost no perceived bias was the Romanian v Scotland game or was that because Scotland aren’t viewed as a tier one nation?
October 10th 2011 @ 7:59am
Franzencroy said | October 10th 2011 @ 7:59am | Report comment
There were 29 pros on the field at any one time and one guy who looked like an insomniac who’d wandered down from the stands and pulled on a Wallaby jersey. I kept waiting for Deans to give Cooper the hook but he just left him in there. Why? Cooper almost lost that game for us. Dingo should have some guts, sack him and play Barnes at 10. If QC plays next week the ABs will tread all over him and we’ll have backfoot ball even after winning a scrum.
October 10th 2011 @ 8:01am
sheek said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Let’s be honest here. The Wallabies are collectively rubbish. Or I should say, their structural rugby is collectively rubbish.
They won against the Boks with with great defence, but so much of their rugby is headless chook stuff, & I’m not just thinking Cooper. Pocock is a colossus despite being the shortest forward, but structurally, there are problems across the team.
If the Boks had any idea or inclination to play with width, they would have buried the Wallabies. The saving grace for the Wallabies is that the Boks played as stupidly as the Wallabies did! And they paid the price.
On this performance especially, & through the pool games, you wouldn’t trust the Wallabies to either make, or win, the 2011 RWC final. But a poor England managed it in 2007; the bumbling Wallabies again in 2003; & inconsistent France in 1999, so that’s hope for the Wallabies yet!!
It’s a good thing we didn’t play Wales in the quarters after all. They would have run us off our feet…..
October 10th 2011 @ 8:04am
warrenexpatinnz said | October 10th 2011 @ 8:04am | Report comment
The good thing about last night Sheek was that we won.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:03am
sheek said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:03am | Report comment
Warren – true!
October 10th 2011 @ 9:27am
johnny-boy said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:27am | Report comment
I don’t disagree with the seemingly lack of structure Sheek – it does appear they are just playing what is in front of them tho
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October 10th 2011 @ 3:14pm
Pillock said | October 10th 2011 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
Absolutely right. Hard to have much structure when you get so little ball and none from phase play. Cooper did some good things as well as bad. A few good last line tackles and his kick that lead to Horwill’s try. Not his best but hardly a shocker.
October 10th 2011 @ 9:24am
Justin said | October 10th 2011 @ 9:24am | Report comment
I’m inclined to agree Sheek (yes shock horror).
The talk coming from the players over the past couple of weeks has been a combination of “we need to win ugly”, “we need to kick the corners”, “we need to keep playing our natural game” etc etc. In essence there seems to be ALOT of mixed talk about which way is the right way to play.
Do the players and coaches have a REAL focus on which way the want to play? I cant see it right now. We look hesitant and tight and that is not producing good football.