Rebels will win Super Rugby before the Waratahs
By Stuart Fazakerley, 19 Jan 2012 Stuart Fazakerley is a Roar Rookie
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In the business world, managing expectations is a crucial ability. Estimates are supplied to a project manager, who takes into account the resources we have at our disposal, our ability and experience, the complexity of the task at hand, and any potential roadblocks that could stop a timely delivery.
We take this approach because it’s a way of making a commitment without making a commitment.
Save for an extraordinary development either way, you get a result without surprising or disappointing anyone.
The same is quickly becoming true in professional sport. We seek solace in the fact our club is ‘taking it one week at a time’. When they do not publicly identify targets, we are told ‘being up for the challenge’ should suffice. Justifying a game plan becomes ‘doing the simple things right’, opponents are ‘unpredictable’, and unsavoury types ‘colourful’.
It seems an entire language has popped up to lessen the blow of perceived failure, and while this is sensible to a degree, smoothing out the lows can also smoothen out the highs. It can stop people daring to dream.
Let me use my beloved Melbourne Rebels as an example.
In our first year, expectations weren’t really an issue. If the players turned up and tried as hard as they could, the die-hards were thrilled. We finally had the game we loved in Victoria, represented by a group of outstanding young gentlemen who believed in the culture that the club was trying to foster. Our expectation was to begin building something we could be proud of, and in this respect, the Rebels were a raging success.
As the franchise enters its second year, and the new becomes the familiar, a greater spotlight will be shone on the on-field exploits of the Rebels.
The side will, rightly, attempt to manage the expectations of a membership, and a public that is split between appreciating the need for patience, and equating the team’s high-profile recruits with instant success.
Said recruits, on their first day in front of the cameras at their new home, put it perfectly. James O’Connor, when asked about his expectations for the year, stated “[I] don’t want to look too far ahead, but if you look at the training, everything’s coming together really well”.
Kurtley Beale answered the same question with: “We’ll take it game by game and face the challenges ahead of us.”
Both answers are fair enough. How should either player know what to expect when they have just begun playing in a new environment, especially one that has yet to fully define itself?
What happens, though, when these answers become rote? Do we risk mediocrity becoming a par score? It can be argued that both the Western Force and the Waratahs have been victims of expectation over-management. The Force are entering their seventh season without a finals appearance, a fact met with silent chagrin by most Force fans I have encountered, and the Waratahs have the words ‘long suffering’ so ingrained into their culture, they have to hold fan forums to placate their membership, potentially becoming the club with ten thousand coaches.
As I said previously, the problem is not the managing of expectations. It is forgetting the ability to dream.
For those of you who have children in your lives, you’ll understand what I mean. That period, early in their lives, where all you can do is dream of what they might be, of what they could achieve, of all the things they are capable of. I’ve only seen it in cousins of mine, but even then, it’s incredible.
This is what I think the Force and the Waratahs lost, and something I want all Rebels supporters to cling on to, in the nascent stages of our club’s existence. By all means, be realistic in what you expect of the club in the immediate future, but don’t be afraid to dream of what will be.
Here’s one to get you started: I honestly believe the Melbourne Rebels will win Super Rugby before the Waratahs do. We are a well-built club with a second-to-none culture. The fact that we are a private for-profit business directly links successes on-field and successes in the boardroom. We worked long and hard to earn the privilege to enter Super Rugby, and as such, we will not be an also-ran. We are based in the sporting capital of the world, and your average Melbourne punter loves a winner, any winner.
Compare this to a union-run team that sees success in this competition as an entitlement that they have constantly been denied, and the result is a certainty, right?
Maybe it’s not that simple.
It’s possible this belief is just the product of my natural dislike of the Waratahs, combined with an appreciation of how funny it would be to see NSW bested in its chosen sport by all of its neighbouring territories. But we can dream. No matter what may come our way in this season, or any other, we can dream.
So, people of Victoria, I implore you: buy your memberships, grab your jersey, get your scarf, and prepare to board the ride of your life a second time. Whatever happens, keep this in the back of your mind.
We can win Super Rugby, Melbourne, and one day, we will.
Never forget that.
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January 19th 2012 @ 11:12am
Bernie's Love Child said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:12am | Report comment
Fast, attacking and most notably successful rugby are the main ingredients to get more bums on seats at AAMI Park.
This is the only way attention can be drawn from the absolute juggernaught that is AFL in Victoria.
The Melbourne Storm have shown that if you give the people enterprising, attacking and fast football, coupled with a few premierships (give or take one), a surprisingly large base core of loyal fans will be established.
As a rugby fan who has made Melbourne his home these past few years, this season will be quite important to The Rebels franchise. The addition of some exceptional talent in Beale and O’Connor will only drive expectation much, much higher this year.
Here’s hoping they have a good run.
And that rugby union news can be found closer to the front of the sports section of the Herald Sun and not tucked away between the dishlickers and the NBL.
Go Reds.
January 20th 2012 @ 10:03am
Justin said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
The storm actually play a very conservative gameplan its just that they have had some brilliant individuals which most people watch.
January 20th 2012 @ 5:01pm
Nathan of Perth said | January 20th 2012 @ 5:01pm | Report comment
Give or TAKE two you mean.
January 19th 2012 @ 11:34am
kingplaymaker said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:34am | Report comment
The Waratahs will at least have a new coach, as it was probably Hickey who was ruining things the last years. However, how much of that was Foley responsible for the failings and the ineffective conservative style? We shall see.
The Rebels’ mistake in the first year was assuming they could do everything with culture, or ‘C’ as Rod Macqueen liked to call it. Consequently they recruited an almost starless squad, despite a few good players, that resembled a dirty dozen.The one star they possessed, Danny Cipriani, managed nonetheless to lift them to mid-table, until they foolishly dropped him and plunged to the lowest rung.
This year they have made up for the non-recruitment of stars well with the acquisition of Beale and JOC. One might have hoped they would have acquired a star or two in the pack as well, as this is where their real problems lie.
A point worth noting is that with Beale, JOC and Cipriani they easily eclipse the Storm this year, while even Cipriani’s star power was unable to outshine both Inglis and Slater last year. Slater alone, consequently, will be eclipsed.
There is a lot of excitement therefore surrounding the Rebels, which can hardly be said to be the case with the Waratahs, despite the new coach.
January 19th 2012 @ 11:50am
Mike G said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:50am | Report comment
“There is a lot of excitement therefore surrounding the Rebels, which can hardly be said to be the case with the Waratahs, despite the new coach.”
King, this is EXACTLY why I’m liking the Tahs chances this year!!!
January 19th 2012 @ 11:52am
Stuart Fazakerley said | January 19th 2012 @ 11:52am | Report comment
They’ve done very well to avoid the spotlight, that much is true. If they come out in the trials and smash some teams, there’ll be plenty for Tahs fans to be excited about.
Rebels fans are just excited that the season’s back again!
January 19th 2012 @ 2:16pm
kingplaymaker said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
It’s true the Reds were not expected to come with anything two years ago before they did.
January 19th 2012 @ 12:21pm
Chris said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:21pm | Report comment
Everyone will win the Super 15, twice, before the Waratahs.
Hell, I would bet a Buenos Aires team that might even be a decade away will win it before the Waratahs.
January 19th 2012 @ 2:22pm
Chicko said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
Chris, would that be the Buenos Aires Badgers by any chance?
January 19th 2012 @ 12:33pm
RebelRanger said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
I’m so excited for this season. Kurtley, in my opinion, was our best signing and should provide both the spark we need to break the line more often and also the split second hesitation to kick the ball to us.
The Tahs are one of the most boring teams to watch. I try to avoid them unless they’re playing the Rebels or the Blues. Poor Kurtley had to do it all himself and resort to lame chip and chase tactics because the centers are slow and the wingers pretty much useless when the amazing Drew Mitchell isn’t on the field.
Hopefully our mediocre forward pack will punch well above its weight this year.
I wish the Waratahs all the best. I hope they start playing some exciting rugby and keep winning because it seems the Australian public are losing interest.
January 19th 2012 @ 12:46pm
kovana said | January 19th 2012 @ 12:46pm | Report comment
NSW needs two SR teams.
January 19th 2012 @ 2:23pm
Bay35Pablo said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:23pm | Report comment
They’ve got them. The 2nd one’s called the Brumbies.
January 19th 2012 @ 5:56pm
p.Tah said | January 19th 2012 @ 5:56pm | Report comment
No we don’t. We don’t want to split the support like the Big Bash has done. In SR I believe in JONs matra of one team town, one team.
January 20th 2012 @ 12:41am
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 12:41am | Report comment
p.Tah that would be true if there weren’t 7.5 million in NSW, and it wasn’t the rugby heartland, and didn’t have to compete against 8 league teams. Such numbers need more teams to maximise crowds, player development etc..
The argument one town, one team is a strong one but breaks down in massive Sydney. Consider Sydney is 10 times the size of Canberra, which also has one team.
However, even if they weren’t willing to put another team in Sydney, there is also Newcastle in NSW, a large city.
January 20th 2012 @ 4:16am
p.Tah said | January 20th 2012 @ 4:16am | Report comment
The Brumbies have the bottom half of NSW, but even with about 6 million people in the catchment we have 10k members. In my view the Waratahs need to better engage with the population in NSW before we can consider a 2nd NSW team (play at Newcastle, Parramatta etc.)
If the second team is required for player development, I’d rather another SR team be set up in Adelaide for example to expand the game even if the population of SA is 1.6m… Or better still start the magical 3rd tier national comp
January 20th 2012 @ 4:54am
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 4:54am | Report comment
p.Tah I certainly agree that the Waratahs need to engage better with the public, that’s as true as anything in the world. But given the dispersed nature of Sydney, which is continuous urban sprawl, and the huge population, I don’t think another team would directly challenge the Waratahs. Instead it would appeal to a different area of Sydney.
However, I also see the advantage of Adelaide which not only has a population of 1.6 million without any team nearby, but also, crucially, NO competition from the NRL. This means that if rugby can get to South Australia before the NRL does, it could get a headstart in the market.
Also I think that in areas where there isn’t so much going on, they are keener on watching rugby. It’s remarkable how good the crowds are in Perth even when the team is losing, whereas in NSW the moment they lost the crowds vanish.
So I think probably Adelaide should go first before Western Sydney. Indeed these are critical teams for Australian rugby.
Then, the Gold Coast to provide a second Queensland team.
Finally, the third Sydney team and Newcastle.
Then the circle is complete, although perhaps a third Queensland team would be necessary, though I’m not sure where.
January 20th 2012 @ 1:34am
Football United said | January 20th 2012 @ 1:34am | Report comment
you don’t really seem to get much support outside of sydney anyway? surely a newcastle team for example wouldn’t mess things up too much?
January 20th 2012 @ 4:18am
p.Tah said | January 20th 2012 @ 4:18am | Report comment
It’s surprising Football United. The Tahs do get a lot of support from country NSW, but they could do a lot more to promote the game out there.
January 20th 2012 @ 10:05am
Justin said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:05am | Report comment
NSW needs to worry about filling their stadium every week no matter who the opposition. Considering the population and the reasonable strength of the code there the crowds are quite ordinary to say the least.
January 20th 2012 @ 10:23am
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:23am | Report comment
Justin the crowds are amazingly low. 7.5 million people, the rugby heartland of the country, and yet crowds lower than a new franchise in Perth which loses much of the time.
I don’t think the key is actually the Tahs losing: it’s more the style of play that really puts off all these fans.
It’s still fun to see a game of entertaining running rugby even if your team lose, but a kicking game of rugby when the team lose is getting too much.
We still don’t know if Foley will adopt a running game or kicking one, and I think that will determine whether fans return or not more than whether the team wins.
January 20th 2012 @ 10:33am
Rough Conduct said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
This is why NSW is perfect for a second team. They have a well-defined narrative of being “Not the Waratahs”. Love Rugby? Love NSW? Hate the Waratahs and all they stand for? I suggest that many a NSW Rugby fan would answer yes, this is your fan base, it already exists.
January 20th 2012 @ 11:01am
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 11:01am | Report comment
I dare say that’s correct.
Certainly risking rugby’s future in NSW on one team is bizarre.
January 20th 2012 @ 2:25pm
Working Class Rugger said | January 20th 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
While I do like the idea of an Adelaide based Super Rugby franchise in the future, I actually think a Western Sydney based outfit is needed not only to better represent the major growth areas of Sydney but to represent its surrounding country regions. A Western Sydney team could not only look to further develop the game in the West of the the city but look to linking heavily with the Central West, Ilawarra and potentially Central Coast. More importantly, this would suddenly provide the Tahs with a competitor directly on their own doorstep in the development and marketing department. Something, I for one would like to see and dare I say it, if the Rams (my preferred name for such a franchise from the ARC) were to enter, they will have at least one new member right here.
Conversely, if the Tahs really get out there and invest some serious time and energy into developing Western Sydney and the remaining country regions then yes, place a team in Adelaide to complete the circle if you will. What has always got up my nose in regards to the Tahs is that as an organisation they have around 35 potential development officers under the employment but have never sought to use them in this manner. Train them in the area, split them into 2 man pods and assign each pod 10 schools to regularly visit and assist with installing the game in schools. that’s potentially 150-160 schools.
January 20th 2012 @ 3:22pm
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 3:22pm | Report comment
WCR the worst thing of all is the paranoia of creating a new team anywhere. The Rebels model showed that a combination of foreign players, league converts and young players from other franchises could be competitive, and the new Super format showed how an increased number of the more popular local derbies in the Super season increased revenue to make it workable.
It’s critical to have a team in Western Sydney as 30 squad places is ludicrous for the whole of NSW, and dozens of players are being lost to league each year as a result.
Apparently South Africa want the South Kings included from 2013 so why not add Western Sydney too? New Zealand desperately need a team in South Auckland to stop league’s gain in territory there so all countries could be happy with one more team each.
However, there’s no reason just to add one team. As said the Rebels model shows that teams can be created up to a limit of available foreign players and league converts.
So Adelaide could be added as well as Western Sydney. These seem to me the critical markets that rugby must be present in to cover every market at a basic level.
The third team of course is Gold Coast, as this rugby heartland is completely at the mercy of league and one team is again too small for Queensland.
Things are less urgent beyond this, but a third Sydney team and one in Newcastle would mean a broad coverage of all large rugby heartlands, and a team in every city with over 500,000 population. Obviously, with 4 teams in NSW you would probably need another in Queensland.
So the short team vision would be:
Waratahs, Reds, Brumbies, Force, Rebels PLUS Western Sydney, Adelaide, Gold Coast.
And the long term vision:
Waratahs, Reds, Brumbies, Force, Rebels PLUS Western Sydney, Adelaide, Gold Coast PLUS:
Sydney 3, Newcastle, Queensland 3.
But there’s no reason that over the next 5 years two or three teams could not be added. Rugby would be in an infinitely stronger position in Australia with them.
January 20th 2012 @ 5:11pm
Nathan of Perth said | January 20th 2012 @ 5:11pm | Report comment
KM/WCR,
At what stage do you start running out of rounds to fit the matches between teams though? Unless you want seasons as long as the NH which for some reason seemingly no league in Aus wants to deal with, irregardless of code.
January 20th 2012 @ 11:55pm
kingplaymaker said | January 20th 2012 @ 11:55pm | Report comment
Nathan, not every team needs to play every other one. There’s no obvious reason why they should.
It’s true, however, that the Currie Cup and ITM Cup could (and indeed should) be moved to create some more space, but as it can be difficult getting them to do so it’s not strictly neccesary.
January 19th 2012 @ 1:01pm
Who Needs Melon said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:01pm | Report comment
I’m not sure about the prediction but I fully take the point about dreams/projects giving way to routine/BAU.
Frankly I think teams like the Force and the Tahs need some sort of jolt to reset expectations/attitudes/etc. – i.e. yes, a few players will have come and gone but what is it about this season that’s different from last season for them?
The Reds for years just kept turning up to have another crack. But it wasn’t until they REALLY cleared the decks that a new direction seemed to be established. You know what: It’s probably NOT because McKenzie is that brilliant a coach. Nor that the new crop of administrators are that much better than the last lot. It’s just that there was enough of a change that the fans, players and organisation probably FELT like it was a new dawn.
Sadly I think the Brumbies missed an opportunity to replace some administrators along with the coach this season. Whilst I’m hoping Jake White coming and Giteau and Elsom going can reset things and revitalise the team, I think by keeping the current crop of administrators, they might JUST fall short of the level of “newness” required. A couple of early losses and I think the players might fall into the “here we go again” mentality.
I am quite confident for the Rebels though. I don’t think they’ll make the finals but I think with JOC and Beale they will upset a few more established teams this year.
Anyway, good luck to all the aussie teams and I can’t wait for another cracking season.
January 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm
Bay35Pablo said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
It’s not about Link as a coach, it’s as a manager and motivator. As he said in a recent chat on Ruggamatrix’s podcast, as head coach you actually do very little coaching. That’s what the assistants are for. It’s all about builfing or changing the dynamic and culture, and managing the big picture. Link’s clearly worked that out, having cleaned up the Tahs and now the Reds.
January 20th 2012 @ 6:09pm
Working Class Rugger said | January 20th 2012 @ 6:09pm | Report comment
Nathan,
Well, from this year there will be a four week mid season break to cater for the June test window. Why not continue to play through that period but instead move the games to more regional centres. That would allow the remaining squads to continue playing without a fall off of form a break could provide, allows for more teams and opens more opportunity for regional centres to see SR live and in person. Well, that’s how I’d do it.
January 19th 2012 @ 1:43pm
DC said | January 19th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
I am a Canes fan so no inter-state swipes from me.
I saw the Rebels beat the Canes in Melbourne last year. The atmosphere was terrific and the stadium is so close to the city . A top night and I went on my own after a work trip from Sydney…
I couldn’t believe how many Brits and kiwis and old-timer Aussie union heads were there – quite a mix.
So I think the Rebels are already trouncing the Tahs in the brand stakes and Kurtley and Bieber will only add momentum to this in 2012 and onwards …
January 19th 2012 @ 2:20pm
Snobby Deans said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Quote: “We finally had the game we loved in Victoria, represented by a group of outstanding young gentlemen who believed in the culture that the club was trying to foster” I assume you aren’t including Cipriani in this statement?
Also, I note a lot of comments regarding where players are from. While it may make a good topic for some banter (light-hearted or otherwise), it don’t mean a thing. It doesn’t matter whether the Brumbies, for example, are 25% this, 25% that and 50% the other. They’re 100% playing for the Brumbies and that’s really all that matters.
I don’t support the Tahs, and never will. For me, they’re the Hurricanes of the Aussie Conference – a talented team that, on their day, is as good as anyone, but you never really know what team will turn up when the heat really goes on.
January 19th 2012 @ 7:57pm
onor said | January 19th 2012 @ 7:57pm | Report comment
In my opinion.. the cheifs, the blues, the hurricanes and the highlanders are like this..
you never know which team will show up to play.
January 20th 2012 @ 1:32pm
DC said | January 20th 2012 @ 1:32pm | Report comment
As a Canes fan the Tahs comparison is deeply hurtful ..surely this is wrong and you could never compare the dryness and monotony of the Tahs to the Canes, even at their worst !
January 19th 2012 @ 2:27pm
Bay35Pablo said | January 19th 2012 @ 2:27pm | Report comment
“Compare this to a union-run team that sees success in this competition as an entitlement that they have constantly been denied, and the result is a certainty, right?”
You clearly missed that the Tahs are now a separate corporate entity since about this time last year. Separate CEO, new marketing team, etc. They are committed to running things professionally, and hopefully away from the poison at NSWRU. I have had some chats with the marketing manager over there and they are very committed to doing it right, but also realise they have to start from scratch and not get ahead of themselves.
Stu, when Muggo has your boys tackling, then we can start talking semis. Until then, don’t get ahead of yourselves.
January 20th 2012 @ 10:28am
Stuart Fazakerley said | January 20th 2012 @ 10:28am | Report comment
I was aware that this was the case, Pablo, but I still think it’s more re-arranging the furniture than anything else. Happy to be proven wring in time.
Regardless, the Waratahs are not completely reliant on private investment like the Rebels. Nowhere near.
January 19th 2012 @ 5:31pm
Green Lantern said | January 19th 2012 @ 5:31pm | Report comment
I am South African, and Iam used to boring rugby. But the Thas has got to be the worst! They beat the Bulls hands down in k*k rugby. I usually wake up very early to watch the games from NZ and AUS. But Il never waste 80 minutes of my life watching the Warathas again.
January 19th 2012 @ 7:24pm
Mals said | January 19th 2012 @ 7:24pm | Report comment
Green Lantern – have the Tahs changed their name to Thas? Could be the kick up the bum they needed!!
January 20th 2012 @ 5:13pm
Nathan of Perth said | January 20th 2012 @ 5:13pm | Report comment
“I am South African”
It is alright, we here are a tolerant people and will not hold this against you.