Watch out England! Australia is going to take back the Ashes
By Spiro Zavos, 30 Jan 2012 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Michael Clarke wouldn’t mind contesting the Ashes series right now, after Australia defeated India 4-0 in the just-completed Test series.
The former England captain Michael Vaughan, however, reckons that England’s fast bowling attack is more potent than Australia’s.
‘In fact England have 2 better seam bowling attacks,’ he twittered or twattered as this sort of arrant nonsense deserves to be called.
The truth about where Australia is and its chances of regaining the Ashes in 2013 lie somewhere in between these two extreme (in my reckoning) points of view.
First, let’s deal with Clarke’s men. It was an unexpected triumph for the bowlers (and the coaching staff) for Australia to take all 80 Indian wickets in the four Tests.
Admittedly, the much-vaunted Indian middle batting order is less formidable outside India than it is playing at home. But Rahul Dravid had had a superlative series in England. But Siddle and the others reduced him and the other all-time Indian greats, Sachin Tendulkar and VVS Laxman to journeymen status.
In terms of bowling, Australia is well-equipped now and probably even more so by 2013 to present an attack that will bundle out virtually every batting side it comes against.
Patrick Cummins and James Pattinson are youngsters who have already won Tests with their bowling. Both of them look like being handy batsmen too.
Hopefully by 2013 they will be over their injuries and ready to wreck havoc on the English pitches.
The old-timers in the fast bowling attack have bowled superbly in this Australian summer. Ryan Harris (32) probably won’t be around in 2013 but Ben Hilfenhaus (28) and Peter Siddle (27) should be as good then as they are now.
This is especially likely if the Australian Cricket ensures that the new bowling coach, Craig McDermott, is kept on.
The improvement in Siddle’s bowling, particularly, since McDermott came on board has been startling. The McDermott doctrine of pitching the ball up and giving it time to swing should be even more effective in England than it is in Australia.
Watching Shane Warne bowl in the Big Bash is a cruel reminder that we are unlikely to see an Australian leg-spinner of his quality in our life-times. And this thought should allow us to respect spinners who are less brilliant but who, despite this, can play an important part in the balance and success of the Australian bowling attack.
This brings us to Nathan Lyon (24). He is proving to be (in the absence of a Warne) the ideal spinning back-up to a dominant fast bowling attack. Lyon has the virtue of throwing the ball up above the eye-line of the opposing batsmen. He has good flight.
Right now he is not an especially fizzy spinner of the ball. But he has excellent control. He does not bowl very many, if any, bad balls. He has dip. And he is working on an arm ball that goes the other way.
He is a better off-spinner at this stage in his career than Graeme Swann was when he started playing for England.
Lyon could be crucial in England. England folded in Abu Dhabi against Pakistan over the weekend being bowled out for 72 (their lowest total ever against Pakistan) when chasing only 145 for the victory.
The Pakistani left-arm finger-spinner Adbul Rehman took 6 – 25 and in doing this exposed a weakness against spin by Kevin Pietersen that Australia has struggled to cash in on in past Ashes Tests.
Andrew Strauss who scored 32 out of the 72 is struggling to score runs. If the Strauss-Cook opening partnership becomes vulnerable then England will struggle against Australia in 2013.
England do have Stuart Broad who is developing into one of England’s finest all-rounders. Like Sir Ian Botham, Broad has the knack of winning Tests with a bowling or batting burst.
Right now, with Shane Watson out injured, there is no Australian equivalent of Broad. Perhaps Watson will be fully fit by 2013. Let’s hope so because a fit Watson batting at, say, number 6, and being the fourth seam-bowler, is crucial to the balance of the side.
The weight of runs scored by Ricky Ponting and Michael Clarke in the series against India somewhat covered up problems with the batting line-up, in terms of who should bat where and whether certain players will hold up until 2013.
Let’s not forget that this summer, admittedly in South Africa, Australia was bowled out for 47 in one Test innings. And in Hobart against New Zealand, Australia could not score 240 or so in a second inning chase.
We might be being a bit tough on the New Zealand bowling attack in being critical of Australia’s failing run chase. On Saturday this attack bowled Zimbabwe out twice in a day (after batting themselves for a further hour earlier in the day).
I think the selectors will be less happy with the batting. Admittedly, Ricky Ponting, Michael Clarke and Michael Hussey scored massively. But Hussey and Ponting are of an age that a couple of failures will see their places in the Test squad in jeopardy.
They have to score in the Tests before the Ashes and even then they will be under pressure if they get that far. Remember, too, that in the last Ashes series in 2010/2011 Ponting had 8 innings, scored 113 runs, with a 51 not out, and averaged 16.14.
As I see, David Warner will be preserved with as an opener. He scores quickly, very quickly often. The Indians found him out twice with an off-spinner at the beginning of his innings. But he will learn to deal with this. He brings a lot to the team, especially with his enthusiastic fielding and his occasional leg-spinners.
Ed Cowan has done enough to stay in the side, for the time being. He does not strike me as being a long-time Australian Test cricketer. He is rather like his mentor Peter Roebuck, in that he has made a lot with the limited cricketing gifts he has.
Shaun Marsh must be finished. Who replaces him at the crucial number 3 batting position?
And there is the consideration of where Shane Watson fits into the squad. It seems clear that if he is to continue as an all-rounder he can’t open the innings or go first drop as well.
In the time leading up to the 2013 Ashes series, a number of batsmen not in the current squad could force their way in. Philip Hughes and Usama Khawaja are both going to play country cricket this year. I would not write off either of these players scoring their way back into the side. Callum Ferguson and Nic Maddinson are other possibilities.
You would expect Brad Haddin (35) to be dropped for the next Test series. Either Tim Paine (if his finger ever recovers) or Matthew Wade, with his 43 average in first class cricket, look to be the obvious claimants for the job.
England are a side that has peaked and his now growing older and less dominating. Australia is on the rise. By the time the Ashes series starts I expect Australia to be a dominant Test side. And, right now, the good news is that they are least halfway to this stage with plenty of time to complete it.
Spiro Zavos, a founding writer on The Roar, was long time editorial writer on the Sydney Morning Herald, where he started a rugby column that has run for nearly 30 years. Spiro has written 12 books: fiction, biography, politics and histories of Australian, New Zealand, British and South African rugby. He is regarded as one of the foremost writers on rugby throughout the world.
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January 30th 2012 @ 8:28am
Redb said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
“The McDermott doctrine of pitching the ball up and giving it time to swing should be even more effective in England than it is in Australia.”
Spot on. Add Starc to that bowling lineup with his height and inswingers and he will be a handful in England.
However, we should not get ahead of ourselves, our lower order batting is fragile and we need to blood a new keeper-batsmen. I say let the Poms arrogantly puff away, although Pakistan sure took some puff out of their sails on the weekend.
Spiro, you better embrace twitter or you will be left behind.
January 30th 2012 @ 8:35am
mango jack said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:35am | Report comment
Yes, way too early to make this call, Spiro. Our batting is fragile and Haddin’s keeping is erratic. The Ashes will be a contest of bowling attacks, which will be very close. I suspect the England batsmen, more accustomed to local conditions, will give them the edge.
January 30th 2012 @ 11:27am
jameswm said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:27am | Report comment
Our lower order batting’s fragile? I think it’s good, with Siddle and Pattinson.
I’m more worried about our top order batting, esp our top 3.
January 30th 2012 @ 4:08pm
Redb said | January 30th 2012 @ 4:08pm | Report comment
Yeah got that the wrong way around
January 30th 2012 @ 8:29am
Viscount Crouchback said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:29am | Report comment
I’m not sure I entirely agree with the logic of this article. The Australian bowling has certainly improved but, if anything, the batting looks even weaker on paper now than it did in the Ashes. Overall, I suggest there won’t be an awful lot to choose between the teams on paper in 2013 – as indeed there wasn’t before the 2010/11 series.
No, the Ashes of 2013 will be decided in the mind. The mental game becomes all the more important when two teams are evenly matched. The Ashes is a unique pressure cooker and it seems to me that the current generation of Australian cricketers rather seem to crumble at the pressure moments when they come up against England. Alas, they don’t quite seem to have the natural phlegm of the Englishman when the heat really comes on.
I rather suspect that The Oval ’09 and Melbourne ’10 weren’t the last pannicky Australian collapses that Captain Strauss OBE will inflict on Australia during his tenure as skipper.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:34am
Harry said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:34am | Report comment
I was hoping you’d respond like this to what was a fairly blatant attempt to drive a bit of web traffic in the headline and by and large I agree with you. Still a long way to go before the next series though.
Though your natural phlegm comments are a joke – no one can match the Poms record of collapse and capitulation over the last 25 years of test cricket. And not such a great show in the Middle East in the last few weeks by your boys. For gods sake England show some backbone and character while you have the responsibility of holding the world number one ranking for test match cricket.
January 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm
WoobliesFan said | January 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
yawn
VC, why can we read your replies a mile away? Come on old chap, you’ll have to do better than that.
January 30th 2012 @ 8:40am
Chris said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Who replaces Marsh at No. 3? The answer to that is easy – Usman Khawaja. The only thing Khawaja needs at the moment is the clear and loud backing of the selectors. I’m not sure why, but to date he has not done that – it seems he is viewed as a stopgap player at the moment. Someone to fill in until a preferred batsman returns from injury (i.e. Ponting and Marsh). He appears a very complete player, and given some support should develop into a fine Test cricketer. And let’s face it, he hasn’t really done anything wrong so far…
January 30th 2012 @ 8:53am
Redb said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
Hopefully a fit Watson, but for the West Indies the selectors should pick a form batsmen from the remaining Shield games. That may or may not be Khawaja. If that batsmen consolidates the no3 on tour and in Aust 2012/13 then we have a winner. Khawaja has wilted under the pressure to date, England wont be easy on their home wickets.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:02am
Red Kev said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
One poor innings (7 off 51 in the first innings at Bellerive) does not classify someone as “wilting”.
Against the rampant English at the SCG on debut he certainly looked assured rather than nervous posting 37 and 21 (review the scorecard and you won’t find anyone performing well that test).
Khawaja was declared on at 13* on the Pallekele road on which Australia had posted more than 400 at a run per minute.
Khawaja top scored with 65 against SA in the second innings run chase (an historically large run chase at that) – hardly wilting under pressure.
Khawaja was also the second top scorer in the failed second innings run chase against NZ at Bellerive making 23 as the side capitulated (only two other batsman made it past 20 and one was David Warner with his unbeaten century).
It is also worth point out that Cowan was praised for scoring 14 of 61 in a session in difficult conditions at the MCG whereas Khawaja got crucified for 7 off 51 in far worse conditions as the side collapsed.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:21am
mushi said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:21am | Report comment
He’s punched through 40 once in 11 innings.
Yes he looks pretty getting his sub 30 average but taht doesn’t actually give you any more runs
January 30th 2012 @ 10:53am
Red Kev said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
No but it does mean you’re just not going on with it, as opposed to just not good enough.
Khawaja has been dismissed in single figures once. Since the Ashes EVERY OTHER Australian batsman has at least 3 single figure dismissals (except interestingly Ed Cowan – and the reason I like both Cowan and Khawaja is that they are steadiers and Australia needs those sort of players).
Khawaja has been dismissed short of 20 twice in 11 innings. If he can move that number to 30 or 40 (and that is very possible given his first-class record) he’ll be a very valuable test batsman.
January 30th 2012 @ 11:43am
Brendon said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:43am | Report comment
Really? You think scoring slowly and not being able to break 40 makes you a test batsmen?
January 30th 2012 @ 12:16pm
Red Kev said | January 30th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
Brendon most test batsmen score at a strike rate somewhere between 40 and 60 over their careers. Faster in good innings, slower in poor ones. Khawaja’s after a very small sample of 11 innings (including 2 absurdly short cameo not-outs) is 39. It is hardly outside the norm.
If you read carefully as well you’ll realise I said “dismissed short of 20 twice in 11 innings” and that if Khawaja could change that to dismissed short of 30 or 40 twice every 11 innings it would make him a very valuable test batsman.
You all also bang on about Watson but since the Ashes Watson has averaged 20.22, punched through 40 only once (as you like to put it) and has 5 single-figure dismissals … significantly worse as a batsman than Khawaja. In fact his performance rivals Marsh’s.
if Australia doesn’t need an all-rounder in test cricket (and at the moment I am not sure we do) then Shane Watson is not good enough to be picked as a batsman.
January 30th 2012 @ 12:49pm
Jason said | January 30th 2012 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
Some random batsmen with an average of 30 or less after 6 tests with a highest score of 65 or less:
Mohinder Armanath
Alec Stewart
VVS Laxman
Denis Lindsay
Colin Bland
CB Fry
Rohan Kanhai
Cyril Washbrrok
Aubrey Faulkner
Ian Chappell
Bob Simpson
David Boon
Andrew Hilditch
John Inverarity
Heschelle Gibbs
Ron Archer
Mike Gatting
Ashwell Prince
Dennis Amiss
Kris Srikkanth
Ken Mackay
Martin Crowe
Jaques Kallis
Colin Cowdrey
January 30th 2012 @ 10:11pm
MyLeftFoot said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:11pm | Report comment
Jason – is this an argument for Kawaja to return? or for Marsh to be retained?
Or, my counterproposal.
M.Clarke to bat at number 3 so that the new kid on the block can ease into international cricket down the order. A bit like what happened to players like Justin Langer and David Boon.
Note that Clarke of late, either scores 100 or practically nothing. He’s got to get more consistant, and note paper over the cracks with a 300 here, and a 200 there. (okay, half joking).
January 30th 2012 @ 11:51pm
Jason said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:51pm | Report comment
More about UK being dropped a bit early given that his record didn’t suck and his talent is obvious.
As for your proposal, I said on one of the other threads that there is no point turning Clarke into a No 3 if his best spot is No 5 (which it seems to be). I think Watson could very easily slip in at 3 if UK is not seen as the answer at the moment.
For what it’s worth, I would want to get UK in sooner rather than later because he is less comfortable against spin.
ANd totally agree about Clarke needing to improve consistency. I thought Ponting should have been MOTS for the India series because in 6 innings he only failed to reach 60 once and was a major contributor in 3 matches versus Clarke’s 2. . Clarke only passed the 30s twice (albeit pretty spectacularly).
January 30th 2012 @ 8:26pm
Disco said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:26pm | Report comment
Clearly on the outer. Boys’ club is alive and well.
January 31st 2012 @ 8:55am
MyLeftFoot said | January 31st 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
How about being a little controversial here then.
If players of the talent and performance of Dean Jones and Brad Hodge seemingly got excluded for ‘not fitting in’ – - could it be speculated that a practising muslim (Kawaja) might not ‘fit in’ into the Australian test team dressing room?
Was there perhaps an opposite position with the then Yousuf Youhana and his conversion to Islam – was there ‘pressure’ on the sole Christian in the Pakistan dressing room??
I’m just putting it out there.
January 30th 2012 @ 8:55am
JAJI said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:55am | Report comment
One series win – arent we getting ahead of ourselves? Spiro was also this cocky with his beloved Wallabies – after that famous first half in Brisbane – and look what happened there 2 months later
A bit over a month ago we collapsed against the Black Caps which allowed them to draw here a series for the first time in many decades. We got bowled out for under 50 only 2-3 months ago in South Africa. India have been useless away from home for decades. Yes England lost in Dubai – how would we go on such a pitch at present?
We have improved yes – but the journos are over reacting too soon
January 30th 2012 @ 11:31am
justsaying said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Just as an aside, the Black Caps drew a series in Australia in 2001. So not that many decades…
January 30th 2012 @ 12:57pm
Matt F said | January 30th 2012 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
justsaying – The first 2 tests in that series were ruined by rain with the Aussies, on top in both. Also that NZ team was a lot better then the current one (though the same can be said about that Aussie team as well)
January 30th 2012 @ 2:21pm
justsaying said | January 30th 2012 @ 2:21pm | Report comment
NZ were within 10 runs of victory in the 1st test and 3 wickets in the 3rd – only the 2nd was ruined by rain. Admittedly the rain helped NZ out of a hopeless situation in the 1st test, but it also provided some handy delays to Australia in the 3rd. Overall I think a drawn series was a fair result.
January 30th 2012 @ 2:38pm
JohnB said | January 30th 2012 @ 2:38pm | Report comment
That’s a very large “admittedly”!
January 30th 2012 @ 3:01pm
Matt F said | January 30th 2012 @ 3:01pm | Report comment
Australia were crusing in the 1st test until the rain came in and they declared their 2nd innings on 84 in order to try and get a result. They were also on top on Hobart. NZ were the better side in perth. Without the rain I’d think it would have been 2-1 to the Aussies but a draw was possible. Regardless the main point I was making was that the nZ team of 2001-01 was a very decent cricket side, the NZ of 2011, not so much, so I don’t think that they’re quite comparable.
January 30th 2012 @ 11:32am
Brendon said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:32am | Report comment
The fact that England was thrashed again by Pakistan and has lost the series, a team we haven’t lost a series to since Mark Taylor’s first series as captain, is more an indication that we will win 2013 than the current Aus-India series.
In the last 3 years the “number 1″ team has lot to West Indies and Pakistan. Both teams we havent lost a series to since the early and mid 90′s.
January 30th 2012 @ 1:08pm
Matt F said | January 30th 2012 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
Brendon – Since England lost to the WIndies, they’ve beaten us twice, both home and away. I think we can safely say that they’re a much different team now.
Also we haven’t played Pakistan in the sub-continent in almost a decade so I don’t know if we can read much into that one either. Only three players from that series (Ponting, Tafeeq Umar and Misbah Al-Haq) are still in their respective Test teams.
What our 4-0 win against India has shown is that England’s 4-0 win at home against India isn’t as amazing as it looked at the time. They didn’t blast away their nearest rival, rather dispatched a team in decline. England are still number one, but the gap between them and their closest challengers (SA and Aus) isn’t as big as it looked 6 months ago. If we can continue to improve as we are, and find a working and stable batting order, then the next Ashes could be a cracker!
January 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm
Matt F said | January 30th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
True Brendon, though since they lost to the WIndies they’ve beaten us twice so let’s not get carried away here. We also haven’t played Pakistan in the sub-continent in almost a decade so I don’t think we can read too much into that either.
What our 4-0 win against India proves is that Englands 4-0 win against India wasn’t that special. At the time everybody was talking about how England had dismantled their closest rivals and were the number 1 team by a mile. Now we know that it was more because India are a rabble. England are still deservedly ranked number 1, but the gap isn’t as big as we thought it was 6 months ago. If we continue to improve at the rate that we are, and we can get a settled and working batting line-up, then the Ashes series in 18 months will be a cracker!
January 30th 2012 @ 1:09pm
WoobliesFan said | January 30th 2012 @ 1:09pm | Report comment
JAJI,
Spiro got the wallabies wrong…very wrong…..however, there’s a different feeling here…..we’re building and we’re building nicely. Watson to come back. Warner to get better…..mix of old and young bowlers (England cannot match this bowling attack, period). Mr Grumpy proving the critics wrong (and me) – then again, given enough chances, how could he not. Hair-gel hero Michael Clarke captaincy is symbolic of his ego – ruthless, no prisoners, get out of his way. Plus he’s on fire – a double and triple century….WTF…..that’s just too good.
Oh no, we’re not getting ahead of ourselves here because deep down this team still has players who suffered embarrassing defeats to the poxy OBE brigade…..and they hate it…..payback baby, payback!
January 30th 2012 @ 8:27pm
Disco said | January 30th 2012 @ 8:27pm | Report comment
“Wallabies are the greatest! Oi! Oi! Oi! Oh, yeah and I can do this for other sports too! Aussie!”
January 30th 2012 @ 9:05am
Brett McKay said | January 30th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Spiro, I’ll be rather worried if these guys who should be returning to cricket in the next month or so still aren’t fit by the next Ashes series!! That’s another 16 months away!!
January 30th 2012 @ 9:19am
TomC said | January 30th 2012 @ 9:19am | Report comment
I’m not quite as confident that Australia’s seam bowling attack will go quite as well in English conditions. I expect that Hilfenhaus will be our most damaging bowler, as he was last time we toured England. Pattinson and Cummins look like the kind of bowlers who prefer bouncy wickets.
The batting is a funny thing. Ponting’s average was in free-fall before this series. It might be that he’s having a late career second-wind, or he might just be flattering to deceive against an inconsistent Indian bowling attack on familiar wickets. Hussey and Clarke haven’t exactly been models of consistency, and there’s still plenty of problems in the top order. I expect Watson will be called on to bat at number 3 in the tour of the West Indies. Khawaja might have to wait for a retirement.
So 18 months out, there’s still a lot of hard work to do and a lot of questions to be answered. At least we’re in a stronger position now than a couple of months ago.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:15am
Jason said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
Agree that this is premature.
The Dubai fiasco should be overlooked as the pitch was tailor made for the Pakistan chucker and his mate. In any case, Australia would have lost as well as at least England have a couple of decent spinners.
If you line the teams beside each other you would probably go:
Openers – at best even for Australia with Strauss’ poor form offsetting Cook’s good form. Our two are very inconsistent though
3-4 – England. We don’t have a 3 and 4 failed last time against the England attack.
5-6 – Aust because Morgan isn’t test class.
7 – England by a mile
Pace attack – at best even now that we managed to ditch Mitch
Spin – England
Put another way, if I was an England selector, I could find a spot for one Aussie batsman over Morgan, maybe Warner over Strauss if I was prepared to change captains and I wouldn’t see the need to change my pace bowlers.
January 31st 2012 @ 12:40am
AndyMack said | January 31st 2012 @ 12:40am | Report comment
You couldn’t pick Pieterson on form, Cook has hit 1 score since the Ashes (admittedly it was 294, amongst a lot of low scores), Strauss is not scoring runs, and you are right with your assesment of Morgan. I think the aussies stack up ok at the moment.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:38am
Colin N said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
“‘In fact England have 2 better seam bowling attacks,’ he twittered or twattered as this sort of arrant nonsense deserves to be called.”
Very hypocritical Spiro considering the title of the article (although I suspect that was written by The Roar editors) and the last paragrah.
“England are a side that has peaked and his now growing older and less dominating. Australia is on the rise. By the time the Ashes series starts I expect Australia to be a dominant Test side. And, right now, the good news is that they are least halfway to this stage with plenty of time to complete it.”
That itself could be perceived as very arrogant. It’s also wrong that England are ageing. The older players – in fact there are only two or three – Strauss, Swann and possibly Pieterson, could still go for a few years, with the latter two in their early 30s, with young talent impressing on the County scene.
They had a shocking series in Pakistan where it showed their deficiency against spin on a turning wicket. However, 1) England don’t have spinner-friendly pitches and 2) Australia don’t have a world class spinnter.
January 30th 2012 @ 10:38am
Luke of GC said | January 30th 2012 @ 10:38am | Report comment
This is going off way too early. I still don’t see us beating the Poms in 2013 or the return series not long after that but the future looks bright beyond that. The cracks are beginning to appear in the England side (Strauss is past it, Pietersen is on the downward slope and Morgan isn’t good enough).
Michael Vaughan’s comments are typical English arrogance. Just because our attack performed poorly in one series against England last year they won’t rate any of our bowlers ever again (which could work to our advantage actually).
If we are smart and build a side slowly and carefully, and replace the aging players in the team gradually. We can have a team in 3-4 years time that will spank England and dominate them for a while at least. But 2013 is IMHO a bridge too far.
January 30th 2012 @ 11:09am
Saad Ali said | January 30th 2012 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Well,i am from Pakistan,i still believe england to be a better allround unit than australia.As you said ponitng and clark’s heroics made up for other batsmen,I wasnt that impressed,australia have surely been the best team for the last 15 years or so,because they have proven it time and again that they are quite capable of beating any time on any soil.But as for 2013 ashes.Eng are mighty favourites.
Your thoughts were a BIT baised,although you made some good points,when you talk about warner’s inability against spin,you say he will learn to cope with that by 2013,same can be said about peitersen then.