Say goodbye to Gold Coast United
By Mike Tuckerman, 20 Feb 2012 Mike Tuckerman is a Roar Expert
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Gold Coast United's coach Miron Bleiberg. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
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“The A-League is a joke.” There, in a nutshell, is the problem of getting into bed with the devil.
We talk about the need for football people to run our clubs and Clive Palmer has made it palpably clear he is not one of those.
Palmer’s outburst in yesterday’s Sunday Mail may have been extraordinary, but surely it was also calculated.
It was as considered as the decision to appoint a 17-year-old rookie as captain was calculated.
Just as the slashing of the wage bill at the end of last season and the signing of players to one-year contracts was calculated.
Just like getting offside with a proud and clearly competent coach like Miron Bleiberg was calculated. Did Palmer want Bleiberg to quit as coach of the Robina side? I think so.
Why else would he have publicly belittled a coach who led his team into successive finals series?
Perhaps because he thinks the A-League is “a joke” and men like Bleiberg are expendable.
“I don’t even like the game,” Palmer told the Sunday Mail’s resident football journalist Marco Monteverde. “I think it’s a hopeless game. Rugby league’s a much better game.”
So why invest time and money into the sport in the first place? Is it because Palmer the businessman thought it was a sure-fire way to score points in football-mad Asia?
Or like the archetypal playground bully, did Palmer simply feel his status as Queensland’s richest man would buy him instant sporting success, only to turn around and throw a tantrum because things haven’t gone his way?
How else can United make a statement saying Bleiberg has been “disrespectful,” only for the club’s owner to say two days later he thinks football is a “hopeless game?”
One rule for Bleiberg and another rule for Palmer? Absolutely.
Because Palmer has always wanted to run his football club as an oligarchy. And he’s always been frustrated at the thought of having to play by somebody else’s rules.
One gets the sense that when the FFA politely dismissed some of his less helpful suggestions – the football “State of Origin” idea springs immediately to mind – Palmer was genuinely shocked.
And while it may be cliché to suggest Palmer doesn’t hear the word “no” too often, surely there’s some truth behind it.
Because every time Palmer has been criticised for the way he runs Gold Coast United, he has reacted by doing or saying something even more outlandish.
The only question remaining is why?
Why deliberately antagonise and provoke such a backlash if there are still two years of his A-League licence to run?
Having decided Gold Coast United is no longer his preferred plaything, is Palmer simply burning all his bridges before relinquishing control?
That’s what I think is happening. Palmer said it himself.
“The club is a very small, insignificant portion of what I do,” he said yesterday.
I can’t see one of those projects being Gold Coast United once the 2011-12 campaign is over. Whether FFA can afford to take over at yet another club is another matter entirely.
For now, the competition has a real problem on its hands.
Clive Palmer has made it clear he has no interest in the A-League.
Football fans – starting with what’s left of United’s support – should make it clear we have no interest in having him.
Because the sooner Palmer is hounded out of the A-League, the quicker we can move on from the sorry mess that is this club inexorably bound for extinction.
More opinion:
Adrian Musolino: It’s time to cut Gold Coast United loose
Luke Doherty: A-League’s Palmer feud expected to drag on
Mike Tuckerman is a Sydney-born journalist and lifelong football fan. After lengthy stints watching the beautiful game in Germany and Japan, he has settled in Brisbane and has been a Roar columnist since December 2008. Follow Mike on twitter @Mike_Tuckerman
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February 20th 2012 @ 9:35am
Roger said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
I really want to hear what Qantas supports Australian Football thinks about all this. But he has seemingly dropped off the roar?
February 20th 2012 @ 9:38am
striker said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
Roger i think finally he has seen what we have been telling him for weeks that this club has to go and will.
February 20th 2012 @ 9:38am
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:38am | Report comment
If my team was being put through the wringer like this, I’d probably be curled up in the foetal position, rocking back and forth and avoiding the interwebz too. In the midst of all this, we should remember that although small in number the Gold Coast still has a small core of passionate football fans who will be terribly hurt if GCU is killed(by Palmer or the FFA) I really feel sorry for all 10 of them(sorry, that was mean.)but the points stands, The area will be scorched Earth by these shenanigans:( for at least a generation IMO.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am
Roger said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
I would be doing the same guys – it would be a very horrible thing to go through!
Still, I’d very much like to hear his thoughts on the matter, given he is the only faithful GCU fan I know.
I was talking about the issue over the weekend, and was wondering whether or not FFA taking the license over again might improve the perception of fans who may have been put off by this whole sorry affair.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:30am
Titus said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:30am | Report comment
It’s a terrible situation for the fans, how can you honestly expect people to invest money, time and energy into something if it seems likely that your club won’t be around the following season because your owner doesn’t even like the game?
As a Sydney fan I will turn up week in week out, get the membership, buy the merchandise–regardless of how bad the onfield viewing has been(and it’s been dire at times), provided the board and management are commited to the team and are commited to improving the product. I do this because I feel myself to be an investor in the team and it is the future and growing the club that I am focused on.
Chin up Q!
February 20th 2012 @ 1:54pm
Griffo said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:54pm | Report comment
Wasn’t that long ago the Jets were looking down the barrel of the FFA executioner and the prospect our national football comp not being in Newcastle were creating a whole set of ulcers in fans.
Perhaps a new owner, single, consortium, local or foreign is being lined up and Gold Coast United will kick a ball in anger again next season.
From one fan to all the GCU fans out there, I hope you get to cheer for your team again next season.
February 24th 2012 @ 12:17pm
PeterK said | February 24th 2012 @ 12:17pm | Report comment
So do I, Griffo.
I don’t think many realise the huge damage that the demise of GCU would have on the local population. And that takes into account the damage currently continuing!
I’m a Fury fan from NQ, and one day we’ll be back, but I can’t see it happeneing for a very long time now. Had we not been allowed to enter so quickly, we might by now be about ready for a really strong and lasting bid. As it is, local support will be very wary now.
I suspect that an “Apprenticeship League” needs to be set up — professional players and coaching staff, but with much lower costs for travel and stadiums. Then applications for “promotion” can be made rather like the entry into the fourth tier from regional leagues in England. The travel costs can be lowered by having at least the first half of the season in regions.
February 20th 2012 @ 9:53am
Lucan said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:53am | Report comment
All the dilligence and fiscal responsibility that was supposed to come with this new era appears to be a furphy.
We saw this with Peter Jess and Carltoon FC in the NSL. Farcically this owner continues to make money from the on-sales of players transferred under his ownership.
We’re looking at another owner who will walk away scott free after damaging the game, and potentially profiting from the experience (assuming he takes the FFA for damages/compensation).
Let’s learn from the past, not ignore it. Buckley and co. need a swift kick in the backside after falling head over heels for a clown flashing large dollar signs.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:16pm
neos osmos said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
time for a massive change. Time to devolve to manageable state-based comps.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:03am
futbanous said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:03am | Report comment
Shame that after a great football match on Saturday at Suncorp this subject/soap opera continues to dominate headlines.
No matter your individual opinion on Palmer,FFA or Mirons dignity,the bottom line is that no player will wish to play for GCU in the future. The Clubs ability to attract or keep decent players(including juniors developed by the club)is gone.
In others words the chances of a professional football club growing on the coast currently are zilch,zero a dead parrot.
Expansion in QLD should have been in North QLD only,an area with an inbuilt community spirit where many decent footballers have come from in the past. For me provided that it is set up correctly(unlike before,particularly financially) then I would wish to see a club there again.
Feel sorry for the football people involved at GCU though. Some of the Football people from the Roar admin staff went there & I remember one of them stating that Clive likes to see & sign all the cheques. An ominous portrayal into the future.
Anyway the Roar is only up the road for any fans wishing for a football fix.
Roar could easily fill the hole left by GCU IMO.
Just need to put themselves about a bit down there in the community as they do around Brisbane nowadays.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:10am
Johnno said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:10am | Report comment
All the people arguing against private ownership are having a field day now.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:11am
Fussball ist unser leben said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:11am | Report comment
TWG has just Tweeted
SBS – The World Game @TheWorldGame
Gold Coast United chairman Clive Palmer will appear LIVE on #TheWorldGame TONIGHT on SBS TWO and online from 9.30pm AEDT. Don’t miss it.
Should be compulsory viewing for all football fans in Australia and, it seems, this issue has also attracted non-football fans. TWG could have record ratings tonight!
February 20th 2012 @ 1:58pm
Griffo said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:58pm | Report comment
I expect he will be brutally honest from his perspective and drop bombs all over the place.
Will be clearing the family off to bed early tonight, that is for sure.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:15am
TomC said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:15am | Report comment
I agree with all of that, but I don’t really see what the FFA can do unless Palmer voluntarily gives up on the team.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:16am
striker said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Fussball listen to what, he has just slammed our game from pilar to the post which we dont need especially aginst the football haters who are loving this i wont be watching this crap, he will blame FFA for all, SBS have gone to a new low bringing this pest a interview.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:20am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:20am | Report comment
striker
what you say is true, but I think most of us will be tuning in out of curiosity – it will definitely be newsworthy.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:24am
Fussball ist unser leben said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
striker
I’d much rather hear the words from Clive Palmer’s mouth than a report of what he is alleged to have said that is printed in the Courier Mail.
The SBS interview will be LIVE so there won’t be any cutting & editing to compromise the veracity of what he actually says.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:33am
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:33am | Report comment
The question now is how will TWG approach the interview? Will they ask the tough questions or will it be a platform for Palmer to continue his unseemly war against the game and the FFA?
February 20th 2012 @ 10:39am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:39am | Report comment
Fozzy has already shown support for Clive’s views that the FFA is to blame – my guess is that they will allow Clive to absolutely go in after them.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:44am
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:44am | Report comment
In other words, it is highly likely that SBS will co-opt Palmer for their own ‘ crusade’ against all things FFA. Great, just what I look for in a football programme. Think I’ll continue my avoidance of TWG – perhaps reading the transcript at my own lesiure. They (SBS – TWG) are increasingly irrelevant to me these days as an Adelaide United fan anyway.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:48am
striker said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:48am | Report comment
Kasey if they love the game SBS they should have not let him on the show just shows they are anti FFA what a disgrace SBS there losing credility big time.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:54am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:54am | Report comment
midfielder has mentioned a few times on this site that TWG, and SBS generally, has not been as supportive of the A-League as it could have been.
Either way, this is a big sports news story, and it’s a bit of a coup for SBS that they can get Clive on the show to tell all – and I’m sure he will!!
February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
SBS lost me a long time ago. Their treatment of the premier domestic football competition in this country (ranging from neglect to outright hostility in down-talking of it) ensured that I stopped watching TWG years ago. I have had no reason to consider heading back. I love SBS, it has programming that appeals to me as an educated person, but their mal treatment of the HAL, possibly a result of being out bid for broadcast rights by Fox, has left me cold on their football coverage. I’m not going to say for suer what will happen tonight, but I believe that on the balance of probabilities, given what the Foz has already written this week and the general contempt the network has shown for “new football” I feel it is highly unlikely that Palmer has been invited onto the show for a public please explain regarding his disgraceful comments about football ad the HAL. I hope I am wrong, I don’t think I am, but as a football fan, I guess we are conditioned to have hope in desperate situations!
February 20th 2012 @ 11:07am
Fussball ist unser leben said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
@ Kasey & The Cattery
I’ve watched every TWG this HAL season and I estimate the 50 minutes they are on air is allocated:
* HAL/Australian football issues 25 mins
* Intro/general news: 5 mins
* EPL: 5 mins
* La Liga: 5 mins
* Bundesliga/Serie A: 5 mins
* UCL/Europa or interview with Euro corespondent: 5 mins
February 20th 2012 @ 11:15am
Lucan said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:15am | Report comment
SBS/TWG speak well of the HAL in recent times. It should be no surprise, as they want to be a player in the next TV rights deal and alienating the decision makers wouldn’t help their cause.
I agree when they were first snubbed in favour of Foxtel’s cash, there was an underlying/on the surface sense of bitterness towards the FFA.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:18am
Roarchild said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:18am | Report comment
Dominic Bourke said due to sub editors Clive wouldn’t have been very happy with that article and his talk of a new stadium is exactly what GCU need.
I will be interested in what he has to say…. not so much the 90% of it that will be him attacking the FFA but the other 10%.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:53am
Fussball ist unser leben said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:53am | Report comment
TWG producers must be reading these comments because they’re giving all you budding investigative journos, your opportunity to be the next Carl Bernstein or Bob Woodward …
SBS – The World Game @TheWorldGame
“Send questions for Clive Palmer usung #theworldgame. We’ll try and put the best to him on the show. SBS TWO & online LIVE from 9.30pm AEDT.”
February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
It just goes to show fussball, that we pundits are capable of having real influence.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:03am
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Call me cynical, but what’s to stop SBS ‘weeding out the questions it doesn’t want to ask? It sounds nice to invite us to contribute, but if a question is really good and doesn’t fit in with the editorial policy of the producer, it won’t get near the show. Midfielder is 100% correct, this is a massive test/chance for SBS TWG to re-engage with football fans browned off by their treatment of the HAL.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:13am
Fussball ist unser leben said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
Kasey if you want to liaise directly with Clive he has a Twitter account: @CliveFPalmer
February 20th 2012 @ 12:43pm
Axelv said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
Careful mate, say anything questionable and he will sue you.
To him you are a mere ant.
February 20th 2012 @ 2:00pm
Griffo said | February 20th 2012 @ 2:00pm | Report comment
I hope they give the interview enough time to pan out and let Palmer say what he needs to say and not cut off the segment because time is up.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:40am
striker said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
Fusball im sure if he was misunderstood he would have come out in the last day to retract this which has has not, also Ben Buckley wont have not come out in the media if this was not true.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:25am
Roarchild said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:25am | Report comment
Buckley and Clive hate each other.
Nothing is logical between those two.
I expect he will either retract the comments or say he was “angry and emotional” after Buckley had a pop via Cockerill over his team selection.
Otherwise we are going to get an interview that will become even more infamous than Foz vs Ange.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:29am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:29am | Report comment
Yes, the portent is there for us to perhaps witness an unforgettable TV moment.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:04pm
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:04pm | Report comment
I’ll be setting the IQ, I have a date with my sad git side
(a ticket to Roxette tonight in Adelaide) the chance of a Foz v Ange situation is enough to get this on the PVR. I guess I’ll have to take Fussball’s word for it(normally a level headed poster) and give TWG one more chance to impress me with its treatment of HAL issues.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:08pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:08pm | Report comment
Kasey
in these sorts of situations, it’s always best to listen to your heart.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:09pm
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:09pm | Report comment
duplicate post deleted.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:12pm
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Cat,
actually what’s happening with GCU this season is almost unreal.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:31pm
Kasey said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Cat,
actually what’s happening with GCU this season is almost unreal. *groan*
February 20th 2012 @ 12:54pm
Roarchild said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Fosters tweets are a bit of a worry.
Looks like it will be just an FFA bashing (fairly predictable content) and probably done by satellite link.
Fingers crossed though guest panelist for tonight is …. Ben Buckley
February 20th 2012 @ 1:21pm
Roarchild said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
It’s happening, it’s happening Buckley will be on the TWG too.
I mean I hope this matter is all settled with dignity and grace for the benefit of all
February 20th 2012 @ 3:38pm
JohnL said | February 20th 2012 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
Kasey, I went and saw Roxette last Tuesday here in Brisbane. Was a great show. They had three encores so make sure you stay until the staff kick you out
They played a couple of new releases as well. They haven’t lost it at all.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am
Midfielder said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:55am | Report comment
This will also be a test for SBS….
Within the A-League community SBS from Hal 1 to Hal 5 was caustic of FFA & the A-League… Hal 6 they tempered and changed Hal 7 they run a very decent show…
However it does not take much for SBS to move into the you were wrong…
This is not to say FFA are clean skins and that the decisions to let Fury, & the GC in before Canberra & the Gong or a second WS teams is coming home to bite them…
But let’s see how good SBS are …. Also Clive has appeared on a number of TV shows so he is not afraid to come on air…
February 20th 2012 @ 11:16am
JVGO said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:16am | Report comment
Palmer is a very ugly creature, a childish lunatic who is in fact pretty representative of the overrich under brain powered new mining wealth in this country (in fact let’s just say virtually all wealth in this country). The fact is that if these people can purloin their money into political power they will treat the working people of Australia with exactly the same disrespect as Palmer has the FFA and GCU. Tinkler is equally dangerous ugly and unworthy and the outcome similarly predictable.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:10pm | Report comment
JVGO
there is a bit of truth in what you are saying, we are rebuilding our economy almost exclusively on digging things up out of the ground – only time will tell whether that will be sufficient to maintain current levels of prosperity for the remainder of this decade – by definition, it will not be sufficient for the remainder of this century.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:22am
Roarchild said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Why would a man who doesn’t care go to all the games, come up with a plan and now appear on TV?
On one hand he calls it insignificant but he seems to put a lot of time into it…even if it’s just &**&ing it up.
If he really didn’t care wouldn’t he just give some bloke X amount of $$$ and tell him to make it work.