Which AFL teams won’t feature in 2012 finals action
By Michael Filosi, 20 Feb 2012 Michael Filosi is a Roar Expert
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This time of year in the winter football codes, you’d be forgiven for thinking every team was destined for premiership glory.
All you are likely to find is optimism, from all sides, all players, all team officials.
Everyone toes the party line that the pre-season has been the best the club has ever had.
This year was better than last year’s (which was then the best ever), and better than the year before that too (which, coincidentally, had been the best before last year’s epic effort.)
That every team has their best ever pre-season every year says more about the desire of AFL clubs to attract new members than it does about any team’s chance of success.
Invariably those who make the least amount of noise pre-season tend to be find themselves featuring at the pointy end of the season.
This year has been no exception.
I have barely heard a peep from Geelong, Hawthorn, Collingwood, Carlton or West Coast so far this year, but I suspect that these sides will figure most prominently in the fight for this year’s flag.
I’d go so far as to say that these five sides are a lock for the top eight, leaving thirteen other teams to fight it out for the remaining three spots.
So at the risk of bursting the pre-season bubble of a few clubs, and sprinkling a little bit of truth in among the club propaganda, not every team will be victorious this year.
Only eight of the eighteen teams will make the finals this year. Staggering, I know.
So let’s put a line through those teams that will be non-contenders, despite all the words and press releases to the contrary declaring that 2012 will be their year.
Greater Western Sydney Giants
This one is a bit of a no-brainer. The AFL’s newest franchise doesn’t have a snow-flake’s chance in hell of being around when the finals swing into gear in September.
The AFL’s newest franchise is full of young kids and the leftovers from other clubs. The Giants lack the star power that the Gold Coast Suns were able to secure in its first year, and it will be difficult for the club to attract supporters in its inaugural season while copping a belting every week.
The Giants will struggle to get within ten goals of any other side in the competition in 2012, let alone win a match.
But we all know this to be true, so let’s move on to…
Gold Coast Suns
The Suns are another side all but assured of finishing outside finals action this year. Gold Coast surprised many in securing three victories last season, but are still at least a year or two from seriously threatening the top eight.
The Suns will be looking to edge their win tally to seven or eight this season, and from there, aim for a positive win-loss ratio in season 2013.
Other clubs should take their wins against the Suns while they can, because in 2015 and beyond, the Suns are likely to be a genuine premiership contender.
Port Adelaide Power
The Power had a woeful season in 2011, and only narrowly avoided the wooden spoon with a win against Melbourne in the final round. Expect 2012 to be marginally better, but the Power are still a long way off finals contention.
Coach Matthew Primus will have considerably better coaching support this season, and the Power have a number of talented and promising youngsters committed to the club, but eight wins this season will be a very good effort.
Brisbane Lions
The Lions have won just eleven matches in the previous two seasons, and there are very few signs to suggest that they will better this this year. The Lions lost ruckman Mitch Clark to Melbourne, and have replaced him with the previously retired Ben Hudson.
A fit and firing Jonathan Brown has the potential be a big upside for the Lions’ chances this year, but the club is short on player talent, and will be anchored toward the bottom of the AFL ladder for a few more seasons.
Richmond Tigers
A lot of football followers are bullish about the Tigers’ prospects, but I’m not convinced this will be the year Richmond will make the eight. Damien Hardwick enters his third year as coach, and Richmond is unquestionably a team on the rise, but like a number of other sides on this list, the club may have to wait another year before pushing into the finals.
Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Trent Cotchin and Brett Deledio are all very good players, but the second tier of the Richmond list will take another year or so to come on and provide the depth necessary to push Richmond into the top eight.
Maybe next year for the men from Punt Road.
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February 20th 2012 @ 9:13am
TomC said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
I agree the Lions won’t come near the finals in 2012, but I disagree that they are ‘short on player talent, and will be anchored toward the bottom of the AFL ladder for a few more seasons’. I think there’s quite a lot of talent in the younger players.
Also disagree on Richmond. At their best, they played some really excellent football in 2011. That’s often the sign of a team about to step up. I feel they could go either way in 2012.
February 20th 2012 @ 2:24pm
Michael Filosi said | February 20th 2012 @ 2:24pm | Report comment
It was too easy to just run with GWS, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide as being the only sides without a realistic hope of playing finals football this year. You can probably throw Brisbane in that group as well.
In nominating a fifth side that would almost certainly miss out, I was left choosing between Melbourne and Richmond, and chose the latter. I kind of hope I am wrong though. The Tigers deserve some success (whatever that means), and I rate Hardwick as a coach. Plus, they have the best team song in all the league, and I would like to hear it more often.
I feel that Richmond could well be one of the best performed sides of the next five years or so, but that their upwards trend won’t start till next season. Too much of a drop off in talent between their best players and the next tier at present.
February 21st 2012 @ 2:51am
AndyMack said | February 21st 2012 @ 2:51am | Report comment
MF, think if im picking the makings of a good side, I would go with a good young fit midfield, a couple of capable defenders, and a big guy up front who can kick some goals. Sounds like Brisbane Lions to me.
Think Rockliff, Redden, Banfield, Merritt and Brown, with a good ruckman in Luenberger (excuse the spelling) has the makings of a good team to me. Throw in Simon Black to add some class (and experience for the young guys) to the midfield, and the side doesnt look so bad. Might go OK despite M Voss’s involvement…..
February 20th 2012 @ 9:43am
Lachlan said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:43am | Report comment
I can agree with you that Greater Western Sydney, Gold Coast and Port Adelaide won’t play finals footy this year. But however i think Brisbane and Richmond, probably won’t but they both have a slight chance. On the other hand i agree that your top 5 will remain the same, but i’d imagine that Fremantle and Sydney have a chance as well. Fremantle have a new coach and gameplan and i think they’ll be top 4 easily in 2013. Sydney finished 5th in 2011 and 2010, there’s no reason why they can’t be top 4 this year, especially with their new inclusions. Adelaide, Essendon, North Melbourne and Melbourne are likely to takeout 8th spot
February 20th 2012 @ 9:48am
The_Wookie said | February 20th 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
While I suspect GWS, Suns and Power will make up the bottom 3 this year, and last years top 5 will still be the top 5, I believe its a lottery between 6th and 15th a long as injuries permit it. Take Fremantle, ok until they lost half the team. brisbane without its bookends in Merrett and Brown for most of the year – that could easily put them up into the midcard easily enough. The Bombers made it into the 8 last year by the skin of their teeth and theres a few teams that could slot in there.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:02am
Matt F said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:02am | Report comment
I don’t see too many changes to the top 8 from last year. As you said, the top 5 from last year all look certain to make it and I think Sydney will make it again as well, though I declare bias here
Injuries will play a big part as usual, as Freo demonstrated last season. I’d say St Kilda look the most vulnerable top 8 side from last year to drop out, though we said similar things about Geelong the year before (old list, new coach) and they won the comp…..
February 20th 2012 @ 10:40am
Redb said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:40am | Report comment
I wouldn’t write Richmond off, there is a chance the AFL will change the rules to allow 10 teams in the finals this year
Seriously though, Richmond have as good a chance as a whole batch of teams. The only certs to miss would be GWS, GC, Port & Carlton.
February 20th 2012 @ 10:59am
Nathan of Perth said | February 20th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
You know that if the AFL changed it, Richmond would only contrive to finish 11th
laws of physics shall always be obeyed.
February 20th 2012 @ 11:03am
Matt F said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
Maybe they need to make it a top 18 then? They’d be guaranteed a final! Then again they’d probably find some way to screw that up as well
February 20th 2012 @ 11:52am
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Funny you should mention that – I’d love to see a top 16, where it would be a knock out finals system, 1st vs 16th, etc, right down to the final two (like the final stages of the WC), with the top 8 teams getting home ground advantage.
You would also have a major trophy for the mid point of the season, and then another for the minor premier, and then the knock out stages of the finals would commence, over a four week period, leading to the premier for the season.
Not only do you maintain interest levels of most fans till the very end, but you reduce the incentive to tank, because most teams would prefer to make the finals series than finish in the bottom 2.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:23pm
Boris said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:23pm | Report comment
So what’s the incentive to finish 1st instead of 16th of your new system? I really hope you don’t work at the AFL!!!
February 20th 2012 @ 12:38pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:38pm | Report comment
The incentive is that you play the weakest team in the top 16 and continue to play the lowest seeded teams throughout the finals series, all the way to grand final, i.e. you cannot meet the 2nd placed team in the preliminary final, as you can now.
February 20th 2012 @ 1:07pm
Nathan of Perth said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:07pm | Report comment
You advocate something like this but you have issues with the idea of multiple divisions? o.O
February 20th 2012 @ 1:34pm
Matt F said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:34pm | Report comment
Not the biggest fan of that TC. I get that it’s weighted in favour of the top teams but I think it would really devalue the H&A season if you can be 3rd last and still make finals….. I think the current system works pretty well to be honest.
I’d prefer to see a draft lottery brought in to reduce tanking.
February 20th 2012 @ 2:05pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 2:05pm | Report comment
I understand it’s quite a radical proposal, and will be met with no enthusiasm from anyone at any level, but looked at another way, where we know a balanced draw is an impossibility, what is wrong with saying to the top 16 teams at the end of 22 rounds, ok, whoever stays undefeated in the next four weeks is the premier, seeded on the basis of what you have done in the previous 22 games.
The 22 games becomes a means of seeding the 16 teams, a seeding that is retained till the very end, so there is a massive incentive to end up near the top of the seeding because you avoid meeting the best teams until the final two weeks of the finals.
One could argue that at the moment, the top teams are getting insufficient reward for finishing top, because the 4th placed team gets the exact same opportunity as making it to the grand final, indeed, they might even have a better opportunity than the 2nd and 3rd team because one or the other will have to meet the 1st placed team in the prelim, whereas the 4th placed team will not.
February 20th 2012 @ 3:21pm
brendan said | February 20th 2012 @ 3:21pm | Report comment
I agree with Matt under yr system the cattery would devalue the home and away.One of the thrills for each supporter is working out how many games more your team has to win to be assured of the finals so you can relax and bag yr mates from other teams.I am not entirely happy with the present final system i would prefer 1st plays 8th ,2nd and 3rd play off for a prelim spot,4th plays 5th and 6th versus 7th.The two lowest ranked losers are eliminated and the two highest winners go to the prelim.
February 21st 2012 @ 1:45am
amazonfan said | February 21st 2012 @ 1:45am | Report comment
It’s an interesting system, however one of the great hopes of any supporter is to make the finals. Yes, one wants to win the flag, but one first wants to make the finals. A system like this devalues the finals.
In an 18 team competition, I think that we must absolutely keep the final 8, as it actually increases the prestige of making the finals.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:24pm
Johnno said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:24pm | Report comment
Geelong and Collingwood wil not feature in the finals, and have zero chance of winning the premiership, both highly unsuccessful clubs.
February 21st 2012 @ 2:53am
AndyMack said | February 21st 2012 @ 2:53am | Report comment
Useful contribution once again Johnno……
February 21st 2012 @ 3:54am
amazonfan said | February 21st 2012 @ 3:54am | Report comment
Oh lord. Can you get any more absurd?! That is a truly ridiculous comment.
February 20th 2012 @ 12:32pm
BigAl said | February 20th 2012 @ 12:32pm | Report comment
would agree on Collongwood ! . . . absolutely NO HOPE !!!
February 20th 2012 @ 1:21pm
Walt said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
Ten clubs wont play finals this year and you only shoot for five? And of those you chose, 4 of them are no brainers. Come on Michael, show some you-know-whats and earn your “expert” rating.
February 20th 2012 @ 1:35pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
There’s not too much difference between those clubs ranked 9 to 16 and the ones likely to fill 7th and 8th.
February 20th 2012 @ 4:01pm
T said | February 20th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
Have to agree Walt, what’s the purpose of this article and where’s any sort of insight? Or some form of analysis? Eagerly awaiting the top-six of 2012 article – Pies, Geelong …
February 20th 2012 @ 1:26pm
Col said | February 20th 2012 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
Thats all pretty obvious with GWS and GCFC. Although I wouldnt be suprised if Port are the big improvers this year. Not top 8 material, but will be better than what most people are predicting.
With Richmond, the longer they leave Hardwick unsigned for next season, the greater the chance they are of missing the 8. The Tigs have enough trouble hitting targets without the added pressure of another coaching change if they underperform. Sign him up for at least one more year now, so that come round 12 the focus might be on a top 8 spot as opposed to potential care taker coaches.
Brisbane, have been one of the clubs talking it up big time, apparently going to emmulate West Coast from last year. Puts a fair bit of pressure on Voss. Not sure of his contract status, but he could be the first coach under the pump after the bye rounds if the lions are not roaring by then….
February 20th 2012 @ 6:38pm
me too said | February 20th 2012 @ 6:38pm | Report comment
well i’ll be braver.
teams that will get an early holiday are the qld teams, gws, richmond, north, port, crows, melbourne, freo (adjusting to lyon) and the bulldogs.
a possible miss is essendon. either freo or the dogs could replace them. aside from that, it’s cut and dry.
February 20th 2012 @ 6:45pm
The Cattery said | February 20th 2012 @ 6:45pm | Report comment
Not a bad list – I’m not sure if the Swans and Saints are all that entrenched.