MEXTED: Some referees care about rugby, some don’t
Referee Bryce Lawrence gestures for a scrum. AP Photo/Ross Land
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Over the years, I’ve observed and listened to many referees, firstly as a player, and for the last 20 years as a commentator. Referees are wired, and commentators hear everything they say, including their justification for decisions made in real time.
This is the thing, of course.
The referee has to make a call instantly on what he thinks he has seen, and to a degree it is the same for opinionated commentators.
Often we’re proven to be incorrect on replays where all and sundry have the opportunity to see exactly what happened from several angles, often in slow motion.
So it’s a hard job being a referee and getting it all right.
The thing that concerns me most about referees is that they hold the power so firmly. A referee can decide the outcome of a game, and that affects players, coaches, sponsors and spectators.
It is indeed a powerful position.
When I first started commentating, I had long thought that the referees should be accountable if they had this sort of influence. At that stage, of course, to criticise a referee was just not on. It wasn’t the norm.
The game has since moved on and become very professional, and now and again, referees are held accountable by the powers that be. In my opinion, however, nowhere near as much as they should be.
There are highly qualified referees on the world stage who continually influence the result of matches that are close. These referees seem to remain in their post because, generally speaking, they are good referees and they do everything they should do politically off the field.
What also concerns me is what they do on the field.
Often, their personality influences their actions.
Bryce Lawrence is an example. Bryce doesn’t really care about rugby. Bryce cares about himself.
I see that time and again when he referees a game. On some occasions, he is very good. Perhaps it’s his mood. But on other occasions, he dominates to the detriment of the game and the spectacle for crowds and sponsors alike.
Steve Walsh? Well, he’s on a power trip and he enjoys that power position.
This is not all bad, if it doesn’t influence the game.
In my opinion, he rides with the team with possession, therefore the team in defence are scrutinised more precisely than the team with the ball. This makes it extremely difficult for the defensive team to turn over possession or to stop the attack.
What inevitably happens is that a try is scored or a penalty is given.
On the other hand, we have referees like Craig Joubert, Mark Lawrence and Jonathan Kaplan.
These three referees are all South African, which is irrelevant in my mind. But it is interesting to see the development of South African referees over the years.
I can clearly remember the days when South African referees were exceptionally parochial. At one point I played a match for Natal against one of the smaller unions in the north.
Approaching the referee at the cocktail party afterwards, I introduced myself and I said, “I’ve got no axe to grind here because I am just a visitor for the season for Natal, but I have never played in a match where the referee favoured the home team as much as I have today.”
His answer, in a heavy Afrikaans accent, was, “Murray, I have to live in this town.”
Well, we have clearly come a long way since those days, and I am delighted to see the quality of today’s South African referees. Somebody is doing a great job back there.
I’d like to add the name Vinny Munro to the three South African referees.
The four of them clearly like the game of rugby and want the game of rugby to be the victor. This type of attitude, provided they are vigilant where necessary, is fantastic for our game and the future of the game.
I bow to these referees.
On the other hand, I have no respect for referees that are pedantic about the point of the law to the detriment of what is a great team game. Power to the referees who love the game, I say.
Roar columnist and former All Black great, Murray Mexted, is the Managing Director of The International Rugby Academy (IRANZ), the leading global Rugby Academy. IRANZ offer an independent high performance pathway for coaches, players and teams worldwide. More details here.
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March 15th 2012 @ 5:17am
mania said | March 15th 2012 @ 5:17am | Report comment
markLawrence of the 3 SA refs i would consider the best. he controls the game has respect for the players and vice versa but a lot of his decisions come down to how the game flows and allowing it to flow.
south africa have the best refs, nz have the worst. irony?
March 15th 2012 @ 5:04pm
jeznez said | March 15th 2012 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
Us Aussie’s only escape that list because we haven’t got any refs!
March 15th 2012 @ 7:46am
Grimmace said | March 15th 2012 @ 7:46am | Report comment
I agree totally Mex. Of the character floors pointed out in Lawrence and Walsh, perhaps they are sometimes needed to an extent to be able to get to the level they have as a ref?
Playing an away game one day, I distinctly remember one of the home teams players talling the ref (from the same town) “If we loose this game, we’ll burn your shop down.”
March 15th 2012 @ 7:57pm
Drop kick said | March 15th 2012 @ 7:57pm | Report comment
“character FLOORS” that is base accusation
March 15th 2012 @ 8:59am
Will Sinclair said | March 15th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
Bryce Lawrence and Jaco Peyper, in particular, prove week after week that they are not up to it.
And Jonathan Kaplan’s record with Aussie teams – and the Waratahs in particular – draws into serious question his ability to stay independent.
The rest of the SANZAR referees are, in my opinion, generally pretty good, with Craig Joubert the best of the lot.
March 15th 2012 @ 8:59am
Will Sinclair said | March 15th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
By the way – where are the good Aussie referees?
It seems that our refereeing stocks are more or less non-existant… Anyone know why?
March 15th 2012 @ 9:45am
WQ said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
WS, I think I can answer this quite easily:
1- There is very little focus placed on Referee pathways in Australian Rugby
2- Rugby Clubs do not place enough emphasis on teaching their players the rules. As a result of this there is often abuse directed at Referees inaccurately. This abuse eventually wears thin and volunteer Ref’s decide they don’t need it and stop volunteering.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:48am
Happy Hooker said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:48am | Report comment
Where do I start? These things are cyclical, but you have to go back 10 years to find any Aussies of quality. Major problem the Aussies face is not having the quality tier of rugby below super rugby. Its a big jump from Sydney first grade to Super 15, and the only way to get better is to continually referee games at that level. This means persisting with referees who don’t set the world on fire in their first few games eg Gus Gardner who refereed Reds v Rebels last week.
Not only does the lack of a strong 3rd tier comp affect the development of our refs, it also affects the perception that NZ and SA power brokers have of our referees – they frequently combine (conspire?) to keep the Aussies out of the games. Whilst there might be an argument that Aussie referee selectors need to “network” a bit more to get the Aussies up there, as rugby supporters we should want the best referees available, and sadly at the moment, that ain’t the Aussies.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:54am
Brett McKay said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:54am | Report comment
Happy, it’s yet another reason why the next level is a must for Australian rugby. I wonder if avenues exist for leading club refs to have a stint in the NPC or Currie Cup??
March 18th 2012 @ 3:55pm
Mex said | March 18th 2012 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
What a great idea
March 15th 2012 @ 11:02am
Nathan of Perth said | March 15th 2012 @ 11:02am | Report comment
That’s going to be a significant problem for Australian SR referees; Football Federation Australia has a similar sort of problem with the distance between the top and second tiers being quite large.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:02am
Ash said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:02am | Report comment
Of course Murray likes Joubert he gifted the world cup final to the ABs for refusing to adequately penalise McCaw and co.
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March 15th 2012 @ 9:45am
WQ said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Ash, get a grip mate it’s gone!
March 15th 2012 @ 2:58pm
Ash said | March 15th 2012 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Just stating the facts as to why Murray likes Joubert.
March 15th 2012 @ 3:41pm
WQ said | March 15th 2012 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
No Ash, your stating your opinion, not facts!
March 15th 2012 @ 9:13pm
Sircoolalot said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:13pm | Report comment
But it is a fact that Joubert missed a bucket load of infringements by NZ
March 15th 2012 @ 11:57pm
stillmatic1 said | March 15th 2012 @ 11:57pm | Report comment
and a bucketload of infringements by the french also!! so kind of evens out doesnt it, ying and yang and all that stuff.
Ash just seems to have a natural bias against the Abs and so his opinions are clouded as such. show me an infringement by the Abs that joubert didnt penalise and I’ll show you one by the french that he also didnt penalise.
March 16th 2012 @ 1:38pm
Snobby Deans said | March 16th 2012 @ 1:38pm | Report comment
Ash – is it difficult walking with that chip on your shoulder?
Should you mention other games where blatant referring has cost a team a game – like the NZ/FRA QF in ’07? Or does it not suit your biased view to balance out that one particular game?
As WQ saudm get a grip! Move on, the game’s gone
March 15th 2012 @ 9:05am
Brett McKay said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:05am | Report comment
Murray, I agree with your thoughts on Steve Walsh to a degree, but I’ve been pretty happy with him this year, he seems to be back in the groove of letting games flow wherever possible. He did a Six Nations game a few weeks back, too, (Wales-England?) which was an absolute cracker. I know he’s not local, but he’s clearly the best performed of the Australian refs..
March 16th 2012 @ 3:03pm
stuff happens said | March 16th 2012 @ 3:03pm | Report comment
Steve Walsh!? Brett,in last weeks Bulls /Blues match there were 31 penalties! As we both know there are 80 mins in a game so basically for those who pay to turn up the game is ruined.Who wants to watch any game dominated by penalties?( except Spiro apparently, for whom penalties are part of the’ DNA of the game.’)
In the Brumbies /Cheetahs game there were 24 penalties.
Rugby will struggle to develop unless the absurdly complex laws are not overhauled.This is why referees have the power to influence the game.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:08am
Atawhai Drive said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
Some of Murray Mexted’s comments on referees demand scrutiny.
“These referees seem to remain in their post because, generally speaking, they are good referees and they do everything they should do politically off the field.”
So exactly who are these skilled off-field politicians? And how does their Machiavellian scheming manifest itself practically? Are there refereeing factions, dominated by factional heavies who lean on SANZAR, for instance? Just what is being implied here?
“Often, their personality influences their actions.”
Ah. So referees are human too. But in what way does a referee’s personality influence his actions on a rugby field?
“Bryce Lawrence is an example. Bryce doesn’t really care about rugby. Bryce cares about himself.”
How does Murray Mexted know that Bryce Lawrence doesn’t care about rugby? Has he asked him? Has he asked Bryce Lawrence why he puts himself through the torture of training at 41 years of age as he tries to keep up with younger professional athletes? Would a 41-year-old referee who dislikes the game keep doing it year after year when he could surely find something easier and probably more lucrative to do?
“Steve Walsh? Well, he’s on a power trip and he enjoys that power position.”
Really, Mex? Do you know Steve Walsh well enough to make that assertion? Walsh is certainly a strong personality, but I would have thought a strong personality was an essential element in a referee’s psychological makeup. There’s no room for a shrinking violet on a rugby field.
“I’d like to add the name Vinny Munro to the three South African referees. The four of them clearly like the game of rugby and want the game of rugby to be the victor.”
Well, yes, of course they like the game of rugby. How else would they have dedicated themselves to the game to the point there they have risen to the top of the refereeing tree? But surely all referees, even the overweight bloke running around after a group of eight-year-olds on Saturday morning, like the game. Why else would you get involved?
I don’t carry any particular brief for referees in general or specific referees in particular. But if we’re going to bag some refs and praise others, let’s just focus on their actual decisions and not resort to amateur psychoanalysis focusing on their alleged character flaws or strengths.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:24am
Happy Hooker said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Spot on AD. And I know I’m overweight, but at this stage I’m still keeoing up with those eight year olds.
March 15th 2012 @ 9:55am
Sam Taulelei said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
I wasn’t going to bother posting in this thread but just wanted to say thanks for the post AD.
Sums up my feelings exactly when I read it, while it’s great for the Roar to have former players contribute on a regular basis this isn’t one of Murray’s better pieces and is something you’d expect to be posted from the Crowd.
Maybe the Roar should get a former referee to contribute regularly and offer a counterpoint to this piece.
March 15th 2012 @ 10:30am
stillmissit said | March 15th 2012 @ 10:30am | Report comment
Atawhai Drive: I disagree, are you saying that every article in this forum must stand the test of evidence? This is a bloody opinion forum and your opinions are as valid as the next person. I find that this kind of post is normally due to the fact that you disagree, fair enough, but don’t make out you don’t have bigoted opinions, it is why all of us are here.
Opinions and observations have a great place on the roar. I don’t want all articles to be researched to death and only factually correct information posted, 90% of us would be gone.
I personally want more posts from Murray Mexted and anyone else with a strong opinion.
March 15th 2012 @ 11:48am
Rugbug said | March 15th 2012 @ 11:48am | Report comment
That is unless you disagree with the masses and then you are subjected to all sorts of abuse and gang tactics at the roar
March 15th 2012 @ 2:22pm
stillmissit said | March 15th 2012 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
True Rugbug but why worry about abuse from a bunch of people you don’t know? Sometimes you do not match ideas with the majority, are you wrong or are they? Who knows? I would rather write something here I agree with and get a mountain of abuse than write on another site and get NOTHING!
I post a fair amount about climate change and so I guess I am used to massive abuse. You can get to enjoy it,it makes you feel alive.
Look at it this way, at least they care enough to abuse you. They will laud you on another occasion its what makes us human.
This site is one of the best in terms of knowledge and understanding.
March 15th 2012 @ 4:12pm
Sprigs said | March 15th 2012 @ 4:12pm | Report comment
When climate change comes into full swing, there goes Suncorp but fortunately we had practice last year in the floods.
It was tough blowing that whistle underwater, though.
March 15th 2012 @ 4:17pm
Wilson said | March 15th 2012 @ 4:17pm | Report comment
I agree. This is an opinion website. Not the wider media. I want strong opinions not politically correct wash pieces I can read everywhere else.
March 16th 2012 @ 9:25am
Atawhai Drive said | March 16th 2012 @ 9:25am | Report comment
Yes, Stillmissit, I certainly am saying that any opinion contribution should stand the test of evidence. Well-informed opinions are one thing: opinions based on ignorance, prejudice and amateur psychoanalysis are usually worthless.
The line between fact and opinion is or should be quite clear. If I say that Tom Carter plays for the Waratahs, that’s a fact. If I say Tom Carter is the Waratahs’ misunderstood midfield genius, that’s an opinion which I then need to support with evidence.
One of the main reasons I like The Roar is that some of its contributors draw interesting conclusions from established facts. Other intriguing opinions are derived from hitherto unknown (at least to me) facts. And some Roar contributors largely eschew their own opinions while presenting fresh facts. On The Roar, for example, it’s possible for someone like me to be informed about the technicalities of front-row play in rugby, or the subtleties of formation play in football.
But vague and unsupported statements such as “Bryce [Lawrence] doesn’t really care about rugby. Bryce only cares about himself” are neither interesting nor informative. Such a sweeping statement might contain a kernel of truth. But where’s the evidence?
As that renowned expert, Inspector Harry Callahan, said in The Dead Pool, “Opinions are like a..holes . . . everybody’s got one”. Quite so. But some are more valid than others.
March 15th 2012 @ 11:03am
Nathan of Perth said | March 15th 2012 @ 11:03am | Report comment
“Well, yes, of course they like the game of rugby. How else would they have dedicated themselves to the game to the point there they have risen to the top of the refereeing tree? But surely all referees, even the overweight bloke running around after a group of eight-year-olds on Saturday morning, like the game. Why else would you get involved?”
Sure ain’t doing it for the money =P
March 15th 2012 @ 9:22am
sixo_clock said | March 15th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
I hope you are eternally wrong about the Rugby Referees being accountable to any but their board. In fact if it were true we may as well get a round ball and invite fans onto the field to remonstrate. The individual natures of the refs is as much a part of Rugby as our set pieces. Good coaches and captains study them and advise accordingly.
ps: enjoy your commentationalism immensely.
March 15th 2012 @ 10:17am
King of the Gorgonites said | March 15th 2012 @ 10:17am | Report comment
mmmmm, Atawahie drive nails it above. ex-players and commentators have a knack of making outlandish statements and never backing them up.
this is tantamount to libel.
March 15th 2012 @ 10:24am
stillmissit said | March 15th 2012 @ 10:24am | Report comment
Murray I agree to a large extent. As an ex ref I wonder about Bryce Lawrence and his supposed top of the heap status. I certainly think Craig Joubert is the best ref in the southern hemisphere, followed by Mark Lawrence (seems to be getting better as he ages) and on his day Steve Walsh can be outstanding.
Don’t think Joubert had a great game in the WC final but overall a great competition. The quality of the SA refs must surely be down to Andre Watson, one of the best referees I have seen in terms of understanding of the game.
I think Australia has its issues with our refs and we need to improve the number of young refs in this country. The ones I know or have met certainly strike me as a particularly sensitive bunch. When I was reffing 3 years ago you’d get the occasional nasty comment on the field but if you reacted it can escalate. A penalty for back chat and a march 10m if it happens again is far better than seeing it as ref abuse and reporting it.
Being a referee is political, everyone wants the best games and a few will do what it takes to get ‘in’, luckily in NSW we have a great ref’s manager who sees through that BS, wasn’t always like this.
There again if you are involved in Australian rugby at any level it is political, don’t know why, it just is, seems pretty small change to me but it means a lot to others.