Waratahs on the brink after worst-ever Super Rugby start
By David Lord, 19 Mar 2012 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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Force captain David Pocock, coach Richard Graham, and their charges are in the only Australian franchise that can feel well-pleased with week four of Super Rugby.
Not renowned for winning close games, the Force upset the far more fancied Waratahs 21-20 at Allianz Stadium, the former Sydney Football Stadium, where the Waratahs have an impressive home record.
But the three other Australian franchises fell by the wayside in the most extraordinary circumstances.
The Queensland Reds, the reigning Super champions, blew a 17-nil lead against the Sharks at Durban to lose 27-22.
Admittedly the Reds lost Mike Harris and Ben Lucas to hamstrings and Digby Ioane to a dangerous tackle, but Ewen McKenzie-coached teams don’t usually bomb a 17-point lead to lose.
The Brumbies were squared away 22-22 on full-time with the Chiefs at Waikato Stadium, until Chief’s benchman Jackson Willison touched down on the final hooter, with Aaron Cruden added the extras to cement a 29-22 win.
Same story with the Rebels. They were squared away 26-26 on full-time with the Cheetahs at AAMI Park, when Cheetahs benchman Piet Van Zyl finished off an 80m move after the final hooter – the 82nd minute to be precise – Johan Goosen slotted the conversion for a 33-26 victory.
There’s a clear message there for four Australian franchises – turn up to play, and do so for 80 minutes. That’s endemic in New Zealand and South African sides.
NSW has the most soul-searching to do. Apart from South African import Sarel Pretorius and centre Berrick Barnes trying to inspire his pedestrian team-mates in the second half, the Waratahs didn’t turn up to play.
Have they no pride in pulling on the blue jersey emblazoned with the waratah?
Officials are trumpeting the return of backrowers Wycliff Palu and Lopeti Timani next week to meet the upbeat Sharks at Allianz.
Forget it, that’s only papering over the cracks. It’s the mindset that’s lacking, not the players.
The Waratahs have the roster the make a genuine noise in this tournament. But not the large number of white-flaggers who ran onto Allianz last Saturday night.
The Reds are a very different proposition, don’t write off them off too quickly, McKenzie will iron out the problems, and he has selection depth.
“Despite the result, it was our best game of the season,” said McKenzie. In the first 25 minutes hooker James Hanson and backrower Scott Higginbotham crossed for tries as the Reds mounted constant pressure playing expansive rugby.
Losing three attacking backs didn’t help the 80-minute cause, and the wake-up call will be heeded, McKenzie will see to that.
So the Reds and Brumbies have suffered their first losses. Next week the Reds meet the Bulls at Loftus, the Brumbies clash with the Highlanders at Canberra Stadium.
As they sit, both the Reds and Brumbies are on 13 points, with the Waratahs on 8, Rebels 6, and Force 5.
The Rebels and Force clash on Friday night at AAMI Park. It’s a short turnaround for the Rebels who played such positive rugby against the Cheetahs, while the Force has the benefit of being on the road as a unit for the week, and are very bouyant after beating the Waratahs for the first time since they entered the Super tournament in 2006.
Unless the Waratahs can find some bottle in a hurry, the men-in-blue could well be fourth in the Australian conference after week five, their season all but finished before it even started.
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March 19th 2012 @ 8:06am
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
David, how did the Force get the ball to score their second try? Berrick Barnes kicked it to them. Yes he tried but he also put in some woeful kicks and it is still his first instinct if numbers are even.
He needs to go to 15, he has never been a consistent performer at 10 or 12. Cant get a backline going, cant beat a man with pace or power.
March 19th 2012 @ 8:52am
johnny-boy said | March 19th 2012 @ 8:52am | Report comment
Barnes would at the very least be better than Halanghu at 10 but yes fullback might now be his spot
March 19th 2012 @ 11:46am
soapit said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
or outside centre where you are never needed to be a kicking option.
March 19th 2012 @ 1:21pm
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:21pm | Report comment
But you need speed or power at 13, he has neither.
March 19th 2012 @ 3:08pm
soapit said | March 19th 2012 @ 3:08pm | Report comment
not so sure mate, conrad smith not really the biggest or the quickest. anyway as long as he gets the idea he’s a good tactician out of his head and just focuses on the run or pass option he’ll help nsw quite a bit.
March 19th 2012 @ 6:04pm
B-Rock said | March 19th 2012 @ 6:04pm | Report comment
BB is a 10 – a few average games do not warrant a move to 15 or 13 or the bench or anywhere else for that matter. It wasnt long ago the media and roarers were pining for BB at 10 for the WBs at the RWC as QC struggled. My two cents:
1. How is Halangahu in the side let alone captain? He is borderline super rugby standard and should only be used in emergencies. How he has largely escaped criticism so far is beyond me. To be fair, his goal kicking has been good.
2. Pretorious is not an effective team halfback. He has a dynamic running game but is not a great passer and doesnt run the team as well as many hoped. He is also a very poor defender.
3. The forward pack has struggled against modest opposition to date. BB has seen little clean front foot ball to date so has had to scramble and resort to kicking under pressure. As we all know, mounting a strong ball in hand attack behind a beaten pack is difficult if not impossible. Any pack featuring Mumm, Jenkins, Metuisela and Dennis with reserve front rowers of Ulugia and Ryan is going to struggle at this level.
BB must move to 10, Halangahu to the bench or out of the side, Horne to 12 and Carter to 13. I dont understand the persistence with Halangahu, he is not going to improve from here, he is who he is at this stage of this career. The biggest issue for the Tahs is the lack of depth across the side following the off-season departures and injuries. This team is middle of the pack at best. Reinforcements are not on their way either… prepare for a long disappointing season
March 19th 2012 @ 6:38pm
Behold said | March 19th 2012 @ 6:38pm | Report comment
I think Halangahu is still in the side because BB groin is stopping him kicking goal and 10 is Halangahu’s best position and BB is better than Carter.
Pretorious has to stay he isn’t that good in defence true but he at least tries to create some more go forward.
The forward pack is too slow around the field and PTN can’t throw at line-outs so it is useless packing the forward pack with the tall timber. Need to get some more dynamic runners of the ball. If they get Vickerman back this season that will be a big plus but it doesn’t look likely. I don’t think Elsom is going to add anything to this pack, he has become a back line camper in the last few years. Spending the majority of his time playing outside or inside the Winger. I think the Tahs should put in a phone call to Suntory Sungoliath and steal George Smith.
BB must move to 10 when he can goalkick hopefully soon. Personally I think AAC should come to inside and Foley stay at full back. Horne needs to pick up his game and show some of the potential that Deans saw to pick him for the Wallabies or get out of the team.
March 19th 2012 @ 8:23pm
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 8:23pm | Report comment
Most of BBs games are average, he just isn’t that good. I think the future is with someone like Foley at 10.
March 19th 2012 @ 8:50pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | March 19th 2012 @ 8:50pm | Report comment
On Bernard Foley – Quite a number of folk are banging the drum about him at 10 and he certainly looks the goods to me. He appears to be a possible goal kicker too. But maybe I’m wrong there.
Presumably the coaching staff have considered him at 10 are trying to bring him on slowly and give him a chance to find his feet in Super Rugby at 15, which is probably fair enough. I wonder if Michael Foley could swap him and BB at times during the game?
March 19th 2012 @ 9:55am
sheek said | March 19th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
Good morning David,
The Tahs, & perhaps Australian rugby as a whole, are like the joke about WW2 Italian tanks – one forward gear & 4 reverse gears!
The Tahs, & perhaps Australian rugby as a whole, are in danger of sliding backwards faster than a, ….. I don’t know what, but it’s not pretty at the moment.
The Australian game has serious structural flaws that have been evident now for the past 6-7 years, perhaps longer. Yet nothing is done to correct these. While the introduction of both the Force & Rebels has been highly meritorious, it perhaps has merely papered over the serious fault lines in the domestic structures.
Player participation rates, while on the up, are simply not keeping pace with the advances in other footy codes. Wonderful amateur coaches, mentors & volunteers in junior rugby have apparently walked away in droves. Schoolboy rugby needs revamping.
The game cannot afford premier rugby (many premier rugby clubs are broke) to be professional. Nor is premier rugby the answer to developing future talent by itself. A national comp is required. These are critical issues the game appears to be refusing to tackle.
March 19th 2012 @ 10:07am
johnny-boy said | March 19th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
You don’t think the stye of play being nurtured at the top is filtering down adversely thru Australian rugby then ?
March 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm
sheek said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
Sorry J-B – I’m not biting today…..!
March 19th 2012 @ 11:55am
Bay35Pablo said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:55am | Report comment
Sheek, quite right. Unless your numbers are growing faster than the population growth rate (about 3%?), you are losing ground.
March 19th 2012 @ 12:07pm
kingplaymaker said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Bay it’s not the Australian population growth rate that is crucial, but the disturbing NRL/AFL growth rate.
March 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm
formeropenside said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Sheek, as long as Queensland is fine, Australian rugby will be fine. Just keep Benn Robbo fit, and that should be about all the Wallabies need out of Tah-land. Although it would be nice if you could play AAC back into form.
March 19th 2012 @ 12:28pm
sheek said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
FOS,
If only it were all that simple (& I take it your comments are tongue-in-cheek)…..!
March 19th 2012 @ 10:09am
Grimmace said | March 19th 2012 @ 10:09am | Report comment
I don’t know about the Reds ‘blowing’ their lead. Losing both of their playmakers makes things tough, its not as though they decided that uncontested midfield kicks were the way to go. To their credit they didn’t let it get to them or use it as an excuse and they kept having a crack. Lets not forget that the Shorks are a pretty good outfit and came home very strongly.
Teams playing like that and losing is fine unlike the tripe served up in Sydney on Saturday night
March 19th 2012 @ 11:22am
rl said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
I’m with you Grimmace – David is uneccessarily harsh on the Reds team that not only had to content with that but also, and more importantly in my view, uncontested scrums. The Reds front row was having a massive impact on the game up to that point (no coincidence that Greg Holmes had a start), and suddenly hamstrung. So much for the “incompetence” of Aussie front rows. Any reserve hooker that isn’t capable or willing to pack in to contested scrums as a prop needs to go back to rugby league. And a South African one at that – aren’t they all breast-fed by rhinos? Pretty easy to get a sense the game is going your way when your scrum stops going in reverse.
While I’m sure Link would have preferred the win, I think he’d be quietly happy with their effort in the circs.
March 19th 2012 @ 1:52pm
redsnut said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
If the team isn’t the Tahs, then David doesn’t like them it seems.
March 19th 2012 @ 10:45am
Simon said | March 19th 2012 @ 10:45am | Report comment
Sheek, its funny the differing perceptions people have. In 2001 my son played in a combined u/12 u/14 6 team afl competition, there is now now no junior afl competition and only 4 senior teams. In the major regional center there was 4 junior rugby league clubs and 2 senior clubs. There is now 1 club left. In that same time there has been a formation of 3 new junior and senior rugby union clubs and 2 junior and senior soccer clubs.
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March 19th 2012 @ 11:56am
Bay35Pablo said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:56am | Report comment
Simon, where are you? Send the ARU support team out to lock that beachhead in!!!
March 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm
sheek said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Bay,
Mudgee (the country’s rural retreat for North Shorers & Rose Bay types)…..???
Mind you, Mudgee IS a pretty place.
March 19th 2012 @ 4:18pm
Grimmace said | March 19th 2012 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Any team called The Wombats is bound to attract interest.
March 19th 2012 @ 8:55pm
Damo said | March 19th 2012 @ 8:55pm | Report comment
Well let me tell you all about the exploits of my former team- the wombats, brilliant backline plays from half all the way out to 5/8 but sometimes the half went himself.
Mind you the Wombats only lived in the U/ 8 and U/9 period of my career.
March 19th 2012 @ 6:55pm
Simon said | March 19th 2012 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
Northern NSW
March 19th 2012 @ 10:47am
Rusty said | March 19th 2012 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Best game of the weekend – the Cheetahs and Rebels, lots of adventure and width to the game but without the defensive malaise we have often seen with these two teams. Cracker
Worst game of the weekend Tahs v Force. Pure unimaginative bash up rugby dross. Reminds me of an old currie cup game involving Free State and Northern transvaal when it was a game of “who has a better kicker”…except neither of these teams actually kicked or did anything well..
March 19th 2012 @ 11:04am
MikeG said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Hard to argue with you on this piece, David.
Personally I think B Foley may be what is required at #10, with Barnes next to him at #12, or (and I can’t believe I’m saying this), perhaps Foley at 10, Carter at 12 and Barnes at 15?
Either way, Halangahu has got to go…His feable attempted tackle on the final Force tryscorer was pathetic.
March 19th 2012 @ 11:45am
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
Mike your thoughts are similar to mine on a few threads since Saturday. Simply put Hangers, Barnes and Horne just are not working as a midfield and to be honest individually they have never really shone in their current positions. Thats just one reason Foley needs to come into 10. I think Barnes out the bakc and either Horne or Carter at 12 for some go forward with AAC in at 13 will give some more grunt.
Right now they have two play-makers at 10/12 and neither is making any play so the Tahs are losing go forward and creativity due to this set up. Its just plodding stuff at the moment.
March 19th 2012 @ 11:20am
Slacky said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
After driving 40 minutes to the Tahs game due to no public transport where I come from (the Hills), standing at the Life Members function due to lack of chairs, watching a game where only one team came to play football and the other team showed up for appearance money then getting out of the car park that took 40 minutes then a 40 minute drive home really makes me wonder ‘What in the Hell am I doing this for?’ It is because I love the game but it really tests my faith in times like this.
I am fearful that fans who are not as silly as me wont come again. My wife and daughter came to a match like this one two years ago and they refuse to come again. How many people are like that? Our loss.
March 19th 2012 @ 11:41am
Rabbitz said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:41am | Report comment
I am one of those, who after years of being a supporter, just simply can’t be bothered anymore. The lack of heart from those wearing light blue was the clincher.
Once again those who front the media on behalf of the team still don’t understand why supporters are no longer turning up. I am afraid that it is far too late and no matter what the Waratahs achieve they will not win back the supporters they have lost.
Funnily enough I remember saying exactly the same thing last year, just before the “fan forum”.
March 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm
Bay35Pablo said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Slacky, my boys and I have been season pass members for 10 years this year, and were there every game in 2002. We bought season passes as the crwods were so good we feared missing out for a game.
On Saturday night over a beer after the game, in between copping and giving back abuse to people saying Go Force who clearly were not Force fans or even rugby fans but just looking for someone to be w@ankers to (love the Eastern suburbs), some of them were seriously suggesting not renewing next year and just having poker nights to watch games, given you can just change the channel when the game is dire. These are guys that are willing to fly to Melbourne or Brisbane, or drive to Canberra, for games, so they’re committed rugby fans.
I hope we are back next year, but the Tahs need to pull their heads out their a$$es and give me something to convinve my mates to renew. I’m not going on my Pat Malone!
March 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm
rl said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:54pm | Report comment
Bay – as a long-suffering Reds fan I can only say it will get better – aside from the Chris Latham-era, there was a very long and dispiriting drought up here!
March 19th 2012 @ 1:11pm
Rabbitz said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:11pm | Report comment
rl,
At least the Reds gave it a go in those years. The Waratahs haven’t looked like they want to compete in recent years.
March 19th 2012 @ 11:33am
Bigbaz said | March 19th 2012 @ 11:33am | Report comment
So boo a blue is back. As it should be.Though the backs are rightfully being criticised for kicking away possession it was the forwards who blew it.No commitment no heart no ball.The Tahs need to pick players with character and build from there.Two of there marque signings (AAC and BB) actually improved the teams they came from.With there farming area that NSW have they should be untouchable in Australian rugby.
March 19th 2012 @ 12:22pm
Stu said | March 19th 2012 @ 12:22pm | Report comment
Rob Horne has the lowest return on potential I have every seen. The boy has been hyped to the point of world class and just doesn’t delivery. For every great tackle there is a misssed tackle and in terms of line breaks, has he had one this year? It is really hard to say this but, Tom Carter at least brings a presence to the game – drop Horne bring in Carter.
March 19th 2012 @ 1:24pm
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Stu I agree and have put in another thread a backline without him.
Maybe he needs time as a 12. 13 he just doesnt seem to be able to make a bust or offload. Misses too many tackles too, sometimes going the big hit too often.
I think the Tahs need a big re-shuffle of the back line in truth.
But it wont happen…
March 19th 2012 @ 1:39pm
Nathan of Perth said | March 19th 2012 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
Yes, yes, Warratahs doom and gloom, all over, end of the universe and life and we know it, okay…
… but what about the improvement we’ve been seeing in the Force game to game?? Style and execution both!
March 19th 2012 @ 2:07pm
Justin said | March 19th 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Well said Nathan, if they can get a few more players back from injury then both performance and style will continue (we hope).
Great for the comp that no match is a cert from the start.
March 19th 2012 @ 6:49pm
johnny-boy said | March 19th 2012 @ 6:49pm | Report comment
Na the Force has too many Romneys. Salesi Romney Maafu. Pek Romney Cowan, Matt Romney Hodgson, Ben Romney McCalman …