The footy’s back, and it’s better than ever
By The_Wookie, 3 Apr 2012 The_Wookie is a Roar Guru
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After beginning in Sydney last weekend with a single match, the 2012 AFL season continued this weekend with matches across Australia. The round was massive both through the gate and on the box, and with plenty of entertaining games on the field.
Footy fans embraced the game’s return with open arms.
No amount of footy is too much, and by Tuesday morning, I will have seen eight AFL matches, a Foxtel Cup match, as well as VFL, SANFL and WAFL matches for the weekend.
Others will write about the plays and matches, my focus will be on the administrative side of the sport itself. For those who like that sort of thing, there’s some particularly good results from the first round of the season.
Firstly, the weekend’s crowds were huge. Always considered a strong point of the AFL, round one 2012 saw 367,671 people through the gates. This is just 219 people shy of the all time record set in round 22, 1998.
It is an all time opening round attendance record, up 14.4 percent on the 2011 start. To put this in perspective, the average crowd is only up 1.75 percent on 2011, and down slightly on the record. In counter to that it should be noted that both Gold Coast and GWS had home matches, where last year GWS did not exist and Gold Coast had the bye – so an increase is kind of a surprise in that regard.
Theres always a lot of hope around a football club a this time of the year, and this can be an early driver for attendances. Not to mention the AFL scheduling a lot of blockbuster matches in the early rounds between the big Victorian clubs – this week Carlton v Richmond and Hawthorn v Collingwood. Next week Collingwood have Richmond, Hawthorn have Geelong and the following week Carlton have Collingwood.
Secondly, TV ratings continue to grow. Last season’s opening round attracted 3.167 million viewers in the five-city metro and Foxtel catchments, the corresponding 2012 round has pulled in an astounding 5.253 million viewers – up more than two million or a 65 percent increase in metro and Foxtel viewers. I believe this is an all time viewing record for any round of AFL football.
Thirdly, for those wondering how the Foxfooty channel is fairing, FoxFooty was the top rated subscription TV channel for the opening week of the AFL season.
The advent of live football is a watershed for the Australian football fan – particularly in Victoria and Western Australia where night football is usually delayed. Foxtel too is benefitting from having all matches on all the time, and Seven’s ratings don’t appear to have dropped as a result of the simulcast. This really does appear to be win-win for everyone.
Fourth, memberships are another widely acknowledged AFL strength, and last year’s record of 650,373 could well be under threat as 2012 memberships passed 626,000 based on official club information. It’s worth noting that Collingwood are believed to have more than 75,000 members at the moment, and we are working with an official figure of 53,000.
It is entirely possible that the record has already been passed. We won’t know for sure until the AFL does its audit. Still 626,000 memberships by round one isn’t too bad when you consider membership doesn’t close until June 30.
The AFL would have to be happy with that.
References:
Crowd figures are sourced from AFL.com.au and stats.rleague.com
TV ratings figures are sourced from mediaweek twitter and tvtonight.com.au
Foxfooty rating info sourced from throng.com.au
Membership figures are sourced from club websites.
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April 3rd 2012 @ 11:47am
Australian Rules said | April 3rd 2012 @ 11:47am | Report comment
I saw the ratings too and could not believe it.
5.253 Million viewers is an extraordinary result. The increased Foxtel broadcasting and live footy is massive for Australian footy fans…and clearly, they’re lapping it up.
April 3rd 2012 @ 5:53pm
Norm said | April 3rd 2012 @ 5:53pm | Report comment
This is exactly what Foxtel was banking on. It dashes the NRL hopes of getting more for the new TV rights than the AFL. But we all knew that!
April 3rd 2012 @ 9:59pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 9:59pm | Report comment
theres no reason to believe they wont get similar ratings under a similar arrangement Norm, in addition they can package rep fixtures and toyota cup matches. Theres no reason to believe they cant get a similar deal
April 4th 2012 @ 1:13pm
mick h said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
the nrl will get more as the wookie said rep fixtures and toyota cup and the fact that mnf continues to be a ratings winner for fox sports. it will be interesting to see how the gws game goes at blacktown up against the penrith vs wests tigers at penrith on the 15 april.
April 4th 2012 @ 1:24pm
Redb said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:24pm | Report comment
Massive ratings in anyones book.
April 4th 2012 @ 3:19pm
ItsCalled AussieRules said | April 4th 2012 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
Excellent TV ratings.
To put it in perspective though, we had 9 live games on Foxtel this season kick off compared to 4 last year.
Also the games were played over 2 weeks, so there was no clashes and you could have watched all 9 games if you wanted to and I suspect most of the fans did – so there is a hell of a lot of double counting.
But well done to the AFL and their expansion plans.
April 4th 2012 @ 4:32pm
Redb said | April 4th 2012 @ 4:32pm | Report comment
The only difference is the split round freeing up the Sydney debry as a stand alone game. I’d expect the AFL will come back to a 4M average, with some weeks up around 4.5M. That is still way above the 3M and 3.5M of past years.
The same ‘double counting’ would occur in most comps were fans watch multiple games. All comps stagger their games that is nothing new.
The live games and better spread is the real bonus. Ch 7 and Foxtel simulcast games are not double counting. Also two games did clash on Sat night. Freo v Geel, Ess v Nth.
It would be fair to see that very few would watch all 9 games and in a silding scale down to those who would only watch their team.
April 3rd 2012 @ 12:02pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
Wookie
good wrap up of the numbers that matter from for round 1, it looks like every expectation has been met plus some.
April 3rd 2012 @ 12:26pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 12:26pm | Report comment
It’s amazing the AFL is keeping a lid on this and haven’t said boo about it. Perhaps it’s a case of the news being too good, that it would appear rude and boorish to brag about it?
April 3rd 2012 @ 5:54pm
Norm said | April 3rd 2012 @ 5:54pm | Report comment
They do not need to draw attention to the other codes attendances
April 3rd 2012 @ 2:01pm
Prince Imperial said | April 3rd 2012 @ 2:01pm | Report comment
A spread out round really helps with the ratings. In a typical round there are several overlaps between games on at the same time and the audience gets split (a result of having 3 hour matches and no Monday night games). So I doubt we will see the 5.25m figure again this season. Still it’s a fantastic figure and we should see a substantial increase in aggregate ratings over the year. Foxtel, 7 and the League would be delighted.
April 3rd 2012 @ 2:07pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Agreed – the circumstances are such that it’s unlikely to be achieved again for the remainder of this season, games will be on against each other and that will reduce the overall viewing figures in future rounds. If the 9 games can stay in the 4 mill to 4.8 mill range consistently for the rest of the season, that would be a good result (counting 5 city metro and Fox figures).
However, it’s possible we might see strong attendances continue over the Easter long weekend.
April 3rd 2012 @ 5:55pm
Norm said | April 3rd 2012 @ 5:55pm | Report comment
I expect them to pass the 1998 record attendance this w/e.
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:01pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:01pm | Report comment
Really? I don’t know about that – there are two big games that could each get 80k, but then the remainder are lesser match ups (no disrespect intended).
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:28pm
Norm said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
40k in Perth & Adel, 25k in Bris & SYD, 2 x 85k at ‘G, 40k at Ess, 30k at St K, 15k in Hobart. Just my estimates
April 3rd 2012 @ 7:16pm
stabpass said | April 3rd 2012 @ 7:16pm | Report comment
School holidays and easter will put a dampner on it, i have a mate who has gone to Bali, and has given me some memberships for the Eagles/Melbourne game, so i will probably go, but many people dont bother, and dont re-sell back to the club, or pass to friends.
Of course it could work the other way and more people, because of the holidays could turn up.
I reckon Brisbane with a unexpected win last week could draw around 30k.
April 3rd 2012 @ 7:46pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 7:46pm | Report comment
Possibly – a lot would have to right all on the one weekend – only need a bit of rain in one location and that would be enought to make it extremely difficult, but I hope you’re right.
April 3rd 2012 @ 5:31pm
Jamesp said | April 3rd 2012 @ 5:31pm | Report comment
A strong case for Monday night football then? I am unsure if I am in favour of it. Prefer the odd games here and there. Works well in school holiday periods, and Monday day games are good when its a public holiday.
Then again, many people go away for holidays which would affect both TV and the gate…
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:06pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:06pm | Report comment
It’s good that the AFL has opted to not run with Monday night football, for the time being, it leaves something extra to negotiate with in the next round – I’m sure they are always thinking ahead about getting more value the next time round.
April 3rd 2012 @ 5:25pm
stabpass said | April 3rd 2012 @ 5:25pm | Report comment
There is no argument, the AFL is by far, the biggest, strongest, best run, football comp in this country.
The AFL’s crowds, membership, grounds, both player and spectator facilities, and TV deals and ratings are world class, and in some cases world leaders.
I wonder what the AFL are looking ahead at, after bedding down the new teams.
A 3rd team for Perth, a more serious concerted attempt to grow the game O/S
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:05pm
The Cattery said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:05pm | Report comment
A 3rd team in Perth is critical – pretty soon the Eagles and Dockers will both have memberhip waiting lists, which amounts to demand for another footy team.
And of course Tassie finally deserves a team….but….can we truly think about a 20 team comp? Doesn’t it start to get a bit unmanageable?
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:18pm
Veni, Vedi, Sherrin Calcitravi said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:18pm | Report comment
Completely manageable at 20. Plenty of time-slots remaining, particularly with Monday night still open. WA3 and Tasmania would have to be the front-runners for next expansion. Canberra also deserves to happen at some point and I suspect will push ahead of Tassie in the feasibility stakes with some at AFL HQ.
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:33pm
Prince Imperial said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:33pm | Report comment
I’ve always had a left field idea of a team called “Territory” that would be based in Canberra, play six matches a season there, and that would fly up to Darwin and be based there for 8 weeks (playing 5 home matches) in the middle of winter. I may be crazy, I admit but it may be a competitor to Perth 3 and Tassie particularly if the two cities have strong population growth.
April 3rd 2012 @ 7:12pm
stabpass said | April 3rd 2012 @ 7:12pm | Report comment
Manageable at 20 teams with time slots, but is it manageable with the depth of players, is it limited by a lack of top quality athletes, some would argue that ATM the talent is spread to thin, and i tend to agree.
QLD, the South Pacific, South Africa and in particular NSW need to supply many more players, to increase the depth, QLD seems to do OK, but south from the Illawarra to Newcastle and west to Penrith needs to be worked for more players, this is the area the AFL is hoping to get a share of.
April 3rd 2012 @ 9:08pm
stabpass said | April 3rd 2012 @ 9:08pm | Report comment
I should actually rephrase that – would a 20 team comp be limited by the lack of top quality footballers, rather than athletes, some people seem to think they are the same thing these days.
Finding top quality footballers who are also top quality athletes is the big problem.
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:47pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:47pm | Report comment
its not as big a problem as people make out. the quality issue is driven these days by the fact that recruiters and clubs are taking a long view and going for the top talent in the under 18s while ignoring the slower developing talent that has recently matured in the VFL/SANFL/WAFL and elsewhere. More and more clubs will be looking at the like of Duigan, Barlow, Stephenson, Krakouer – all who came from state league sides at mature ages and are or have shown to be highly effective at the elite level.
This problem could easily be solved by placing severe limitations on the drafting of players under 20, and might solve the homesickness problems many young footballers face as well, allowing them time to mature in their own regions before being thrust into the limelight. Let new players take baby steps not giant leaps.
April 4th 2012 @ 7:17am
ManInBlack said | April 4th 2012 @ 7:17am | Report comment
for a lead in to the compromised drafts (Suns/GWS), clubs were busily cleaning out the ‘chaff’ on their lists and trying desperately to get as many drafted kids through to find the champions.
But, along the way, as if we hadn’t already seen how the rookie system had been working to allow the late maturers to come through and star – but along the way, the ‘mature age’ rookie appeared.
That’s been a fabulous boon.
The whole ‘quality’ argument I reckon was missing the point that a lot of clubs were deliberately list managing OUT of their club their 26-32 yr olds. They were playing ultra young lists – and Melb FC is a clear example.
That list management methodology has been the worst sort of ‘tanking’ if you wish.
Point is – the talent was there. Is there. 20 clubs – the more the merrier. I’m not sure that anyone was ever going to describe Cameron Ling or Sam Mitchell as top quality athletes. They’d never be competing in the Olympic athletics – - and yet, were footballers of the highest quality. With 18 on the field, there’s only so much room for show pony athletes.
Grunt players with plenty of heart are also required and – to me – are the missing pieces in the majority of clubs that are struggling.
Internationally – The Port Moresby Academy will start churning out potential draftees. We need an academy in Fiji or Tonga and surely in RSA. And an indigenous academy in Mildura along the Clontarf model.
April 4th 2012 @ 1:51pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:51pm | Report comment
20 teams is a good, level number, I wouldn’t want to see it go beyond that. I like my American sports but 30-32 team leagues are absolutely farcical for fairness. Development past there would have to focus on women’s footy and professionalising the state leagues.
WA certainly could handle a 3rd team. Eagles and Dockers generate $90m pa of revenue with no pokies, no leagues clubs, no dodgy property deals, no private owner largesse. Within Western Australia no other teams come even close to matching their brand, presence, supporter numbers or community goodwill. Question is where would you base them. With West Coast covering the general angle and Freo having the centre, the big options seem like Joondalup in the northern extremity of the city or Peel/Mandurah in the southern extremity. Both have their drawbacks, especially if you still plan to use Subi/StadiumWA as a central stadium. Potentially you could bring Rushton Park (beautiful home of the Peel Thunder, poor benighted souls) to AFL level which would let you tap into Rockingham/Kwinana, Mandurah, Success, Bunbury and chunks of the south-west.
Potentially you could also pull a Port Adelaide and try and generate an AFL structure atop an existing WAFL team, bring up something like the West Perth Falcons or Subiaco or Claremont.
April 3rd 2012 @ 9:52pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 3rd 2012 @ 9:52pm | Report comment
Fwiw, judging by my wait list number’s movement, no more than 200 seats changed hands last year for Eagles membership.
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:14pm
Prince Imperial said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:14pm | Report comment
We’re a decade off thinking about expansion. With a 60k stadium on the way there should be enough capacity to meet Perth’s demand for football for a while. If Perth keeps growing as it has a third Perth team appears likely though it is difficult to determine where it’s supporter base would come from.
April 3rd 2012 @ 8:47pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 8:47pm | Report comment
I think its more than a decade. We’re looking at probably 20 years before the AFL goes down that track again. The only thing that could change that is a merger or relocation.
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:32pm
Prince Imperial said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:32pm | Report comment
I agree that 20 years is about right but what I was trying to say was we are a decade off the AFL even beginning to think about it.
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:42pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:42pm | Report comment
yeah thats true, but i mean who knows if Gold Coast and GWS meet their targets earlier – bearing in mind the AFL says the Coast is already profitable – then we might see expansion sooner.
Its not lost on me that the AFL took 5 years to bring Gold Coast from planning to its first season, and 6 years for GWS. Theres no 3-6 month notice like there was in 1987. a decade sounds about right – but if the two new clubs are failing it wont be looked at for much longer than that
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:47pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:47pm | Report comment
GC Suns profitability is a statement in need of a great deal of elaboration by AFL House…
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:54pm
stabpass said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:54pm | Report comment
Indeed, would want to see something tangible.
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:56pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:56pm | Report comment
We’ve already been told that they made more money from one concert at the stadium in 2011 than they did from membership last year. With that in mind, and the low cost model they’ve been set up with, its likely that this is an operating profit which wouldnt take into account previous setup costs.
Either way, as the AFL is currently the owner of the license the financial details will be folded into the AFLs Annual Report.
April 4th 2012 @ 4:28pm
Veni, Vedi, Sherrin Calcitravi said | April 4th 2012 @ 4:28pm | Report comment
Now thats a good point. In the next ten years if the AFL could successfully complete St Kilda’s attempt at a Geelong model down at Seaford, get North Melbourne established as a regional team by increasingly getting them to play games at Ballarat (sorry Kangas supporters) and consolidate GWS and GCS, that would be enough work. Then switch up to 20 and beyond after that.
I could see us in 30 years having a competition of 24 teams having grown at a steady rate to keep the quality we have now without the competition becoming either unfair or chaotic. No lost teams Melbourne traditions maintained as a ‘heartland’ but not as over-represented as now. International feeders are fine, but no reason to base clubs o/s until we have tapped the strength of our own continent fully and made the competition truly national.
April 4th 2012 @ 6:02pm
clipper said | April 4th 2012 @ 6:02pm | Report comment
Nothing wrong with 20 teams – EPL does it, and the lower league have 24, but that would be the absolute maximum. Then you’ve got more interstate teams, and hopefully a new area. Good idea with North Melbourne, although a border regional team with southern NSW would consolidate that area.
April 3rd 2012 @ 6:36pm
shirtfront said | April 3rd 2012 @ 6:36pm | Report comment
Great figures. It’s as though the footy season anticipation gets bigger and bigger every year. Love it!
We should see how the Suns and GWS go before thinking about more expansion. Personally I think it’s going to be a hard slog for a seriously long time.
April 3rd 2012 @ 7:22pm
ChrisH said | April 3rd 2012 @ 7:22pm | Report comment
It’s as though the more excruciating cricket becomes as a spectacle during the summer months, the more desperate we become to see the footy back again.
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:01pm
The_Wookie said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:01pm | Report comment
we had a very lacklustre performance on all counts in the NAB Cup – further confirming these are just glorified practice matches and people cant wait for the real thing to get started
April 3rd 2012 @ 10:09pm
Commo said | April 3rd 2012 @ 10:09pm | Report comment
You have to remember that FOXTEL used to only show the games that a lot of people weren’t interested in watching in their particular state. West Coast vs Port Adelaide shown in Brisbane for example. Naturally ratings are going to rise with all games shown live. Ultimately, this should lead to a greater uptake in subscriptions in the southern states which has lagged behind the northern states. Hence the huge TV deal.
April 4th 2012 @ 11:45am
Lachlan said | April 4th 2012 @ 11:45am | Report comment
Great to see footy back. Love it
April 4th 2012 @ 1:23pm
ItsCalled AussieRules said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
Great to see the footy back and not the hype, but let’s put things into perspective.
Its also a record amount of money sunk into an AFL competition, by a long long way.
You can’t keep spending like that before the TV money runs out.
We have 2 extra teams and an extra game that contibuted 40K to the total. The average attendance per game for the openeing round is actually the lowest in 15 years.
April 4th 2012 @ 2:11pm
The Cattery said | April 4th 2012 @ 2:11pm | Report comment
To sustain a 40k average on the opening round, with both of the new teams having home games is an extraordinary result – don’t kid yourself.
April 4th 2012 @ 2:52pm
ItsCalled AussieRules said | April 4th 2012 @ 2:52pm | Report comment
Fantastic result for which all Victorians can be proud, but it doesn’t alter the fact that its the lowest in 15 years,
April 4th 2012 @ 4:35pm
Veni, Vedi, Sherrin Calcitravi said | April 4th 2012 @ 4:35pm | Report comment
Why the Victorian reference? To be honest the Rich v Carl and Haw v Coll crowds at 78,000 each was good but not excellent- the problem of having so many reserved seats is the gap in attendance when people have to miss a game and their prime seat is unavailable.
I for one would happily nominate games I cant attend for my club to get more coin from my seat- after four years on the waiting list for my premium ticket I still shelled out the big bucks knowing there will be eight games I cannot attend. Despite the likelihood of mates using my seat while I cant, its a ridiculous situation at premium games to see spare seats in the prime members areas.
April 4th 2012 @ 4:41pm
Redb said | April 4th 2012 @ 4:41pm | Report comment
Its called AR is a troll.
April 4th 2012 @ 5:04pm
Australian Rules said | April 4th 2012 @ 5:04pm | Report comment
It’s hilarious when people try to have a crack at AFL crowds…
Feel free to refer to this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Australian_football_code_crowds
- Last year the 17 AFL clubs made the top 21 clubs in Australia for average game attendances
- AFL games constituted the top 20 biggest crowds for the regular season
- AFL crowds constituted 37 of the top 40 biggest crowds for the regular season (and 54 of the top 60)
They get the 3rd biggest crowd averages in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
For some more perspective, consider the following:
If Collingwood (for eg) played in the EPL, they would average the second biggest crowds behind Manchester Utd.
In Europe, they would be 6th, behind Dortmund, Barca, Man U, Real and Bayern…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_attendances_of_European_football_clubs
April 4th 2012 @ 6:28pm
Nathan of Perth said | April 4th 2012 @ 6:28pm | Report comment
The average attendance per game for the openeing round is actually the lowest in 15 years. <– Yes, they added an expansion side that will be below the average. You should have some experience with this sort of a thing.
April 4th 2012 @ 6:35pm
Norm said | April 4th 2012 @ 6:35pm | Report comment
Always amusing to see comments about ave attendance from NRL trolls. Last w/e only 2 NRL games got over 15,000. Apart from 25,000 at SFS all other Sydney games pathetic. Yes, 25,000 is really good for Sydney & well above average
April 6th 2012 @ 3:30am
81paling said | April 6th 2012 @ 3:30am | Report comment
It appears that you missed the point Norm, what Nathan is saying is that VFL average attendances are down and they have added a club that will only drag that figure down. To read a bit further into that comment and what Nathan is warning of here is that an expansion side has been added but, rather than the usual fan fair and upward spike in ratings that one might expect from such activity, the sheer amount of resources that has been shoved the way of the expansion has in fact back fired and there is a drop in ratings.
Well done Nathan of Perth you have added an insightful and intelligent comment to this forum, perhaps Norm one day you might be able to do the same.
April 6th 2012 @ 5:30am
Norm said | April 6th 2012 @ 5:30am | Report comment
It appears 81p has missed the point entirely. I was replying to It’s Called Aussie Rules rants. Nathan is not an NRL troll & I agree with him entirely. Didn’t see the VFL mentioned at all – Only ICAR’s attempt.
April 6th 2012 @ 5:46am
The_Wookie said | April 6th 2012 @ 5:46am | Report comment
Nathan didnt say any of that at all. For a start he didnt call it the VFL, and everyone in the AFL world knew that averages would drop with new teams in non heartland areas. Its called expansion. The AFL continually told people for years that its a 20 year plan, and people like you seem to believe that we had no idea what was coming and that the league would automatically get huge crowds and massive support. NO ONE expected that, and NO ONE has suggested it from league HQ.
Troll elsewhere chief.
April 6th 2012 @ 9:08am
The Cattery said | April 6th 2012 @ 9:08am | Report comment
A troll calling the AFL the VFL – how original?!!
April 12th 2012 @ 12:49am
81paling said | April 12th 2012 @ 12:49am | Report comment
There was over 38k at the first game for GWS, do you seriously expect to see average attendances anywhere near this figure week in week ever. If you think that this team will ever get average attendances of anywhere near 40k then you have seriously misjudged the market and to throw the resources at it that are currently being expended is just foolish.
Why the VFL chose to put a team in Western Sydney where it will have so much competition simply demonstrates ignorance. They have now got themselves into an overly competative, extremely diverse market across a huge area of people who do not like to travel.
Why they did not do their homework and realise that the Central Coast of NSW is crying out for something like this shows a simple lack of understanding of the market they are trying to enter. Soccer has clearly demonstrated this but, VFL just saw the market of 2 million people and charged in like a bull in a China shop. If the Mexicans had any brains they would have seen this market with just over a million people and no competition. They also might have seen that they could draw crowds from Newcastle and the North of Sydney (a crowd that has been proven to travel to Eastern Sydney to watch the Swans and Rugby Union).
Anyway chief will enjoy watching you waste your ignorant millions when the reality is there could have been a very easy market of Troll’s for the VFL that has been stupidly and arrogantly ignored in the true spirit of “The_Wookie”.