BREAKING: FFA to announce a new Western Sydney A-League team
By Davidde Corran, 4 Apr 2012 Davidde Corran is a Roar Guru
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Football Federation of Australia CEO Ben Buckley holds a media press conference. AAP Image/Dean Lewins
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So this is how Football Federation Australia believes the west will be won.
Later today, FFA will announce a Western Sydney team funded by the peak body will replace Gold Coast United as the A-League’s 10th team for next season.
It can’t be overemphasised just how significant a moment this is for the A-League and Australian football.
FFA is betting the house on this decision coming off, but let’s be clear this is a last resort.
Upper management at FFA were trawling for investment for a Western Sydney team as far back as when Con Constantine was asked to get involved while being shown the door at Newcastle.
Since then similar approaches have been made right across the country.
Earlier this year Paul Lederer, a prominent businessman with strong links to Western Sydney, was personally courted by Frank Lowy before rejecting the idea amongst heavy criticism of FFA’s business plan for the prospective club.
Couple this with FFA’s history of almost unilateral failure at expansion and it’s a stark background for the A-League to take on the AFL and NRL in the Western suburbs.
Just last week FFA CEO Ben Buckley wrote on The Roar that expansion into Western Sydney will “only occur when those economic pre-conditions of stability and sustainability exist”.
For this decision to have been made now, Buckley and Lowy have either worked a miracle in eight days, or are desperate.
Yet the potential in what many refer to as football’s heartland remains.
The Daily Telegraph is reporting there are plans to host three marquee games at ANZ Stadium, including the league’s second derby.
It’s an enticing proposition and one that could further drive the league’s TV ratings at such a decisive time.
With only 12 months left on the current arrangement with Fox Sports, FFA has openly acknowledged just how crucial the next TV deal is and the decision to immediately expand into Western Sydney is tied to this need.
But what happens if things go wrong and, this time next year, after having been rushed together in a matter of months, the A-League’s 10th team are languishing both on and off the pitch?
The stakes couldn’t be any higher.
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April 4th 2012 @ 7:51am
Stevo said | April 4th 2012 @ 7:51am | Report comment
Excellent! Now we have something serious to talk about rather than the soap opera drama that is MVFC!
April 4th 2012 @ 8:01am
stam said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Why does every decision made by FFA feel rushed and Ill conceived?
If the ffa plan on funding this new team with where do they plan on getting the money required? Do they have an idea of what the next tv deal will be worth and believe they will have the money themselves for a new team? How much would be to start up a new team? 20million?
April 4th 2012 @ 8:14am
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Next TV Deal will be $30 to $35 million a year. Thats enough for a rise in each clubs salary cap AND to completely fund it meaning each club wages apart from marquee are covered from TV. However it will mean the Socceroos will stay on Foxtel – that will be the catch
April 4th 2012 @ 8:40am
Paul said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
All home Socceroos matches must be on FTA (likely SBS) under the new anti-siphoning laws.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:50am
Lucan said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Think it is Socceroos WCQ, home and away.
NT Friendlies aren’t protected.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:29am
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:29am | Report comment
Apparently I have been told that is only a “maybe”. Lowy himself putting enormous pressure on Senator Conroy
April 4th 2012 @ 9:36am
Goanajack said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
JAJI,
There will be a riot if the Socceroos qualifiers arent on FTA TV. The door has closed. Where is the new team to play – I assume they have done a stadium deal, the temeperature in the Western Suburbs in mid summer away from the Coast even at night is mind blowing (for players and spectators)- all other teams are near the ocean so get some relief
April 4th 2012 @ 12:07pm
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:07pm | Report comment
Double edge sword though Goanajack – it gets more money which gives the clubs more money for their salary cap. Apparently Channel Ten in the mix still – new management interested
April 4th 2012 @ 12:40pm
Brendo said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:40pm | Report comment
No its not a maybe. Socceroos WCQ are on the anti-siphoning list. However Conroy can make changes (ie exclusions) at his whim so I am sure Lowry is applying pressure. Cannot see Conroy making that concession however.
Note though that Friendlies, AFC Games are no included in the anti-siphoning list. So the 2015 AFC Cup could still be included in a Foxtel deal.
April 4th 2012 @ 1:13pm
Lucan said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
Asian Cup is the AFC’s to sell, not FFA’s.
Considering we don’t play qualifiers for 2015, the only games FFA have available for sale are WCQ’s and NT friendlies.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:01am
jbinnie said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Not only that “stam” but where are they going to get the 24 players,and associated staff,another 15 or so, that will guarantee them decent performances on the field of play???. Now if they could come up with the answers to that part of their plan,I, among other learned readers, might just start to believe.
Interesting to read Paul Lederer’s name in the article. As the son of Andrew ,who was a great stalwart of the game before and during the NSL era, one would imagine Paul would have a pretty wide ranging knowledge of the game and for him to state he didn’t like the business plan for WS is something to be concerned about. jb
April 4th 2012 @ 10:59am
Nathan of Perth said | April 4th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
Hopefully they have scouts already off to the races.
Wonder if they’ll plunder the various AIS/NTC development squads of the state federations?
April 4th 2012 @ 11:07am
Penalty said | April 4th 2012 @ 11:07am | Report comment
They can take Broxham, Allsopp and Kemp from us. Ernie Merrick as coach.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:12am
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:12am | Report comment
I get the impression the writer is hoping they fail. Again if this was AFL or NRL you would get nothing but positive commentary – but as usual with football all the dark forces come out again and again
Fact is without Frank Lowy where would the $8 million free kick from Julia be coming from?
Any bets on marquee? Harry Kewell, Lucas Neil or Timmy Cahill?
April 4th 2012 @ 8:19am
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
My tips:
Marquee: Chippers with Tim Cahill as an official ambassador of some sort.
bulk of the squad to come from the remains of GCU and the best of the NSWPL to fill it out.
Miron to coach.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:21am
Paul said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:21am | Report comment
It wouldn’t surprise me if Harry was enticed over, it would steamroll over anything Israel Folau could have done for GWS – for a start Harry actually plays the sport, plays it well and has a huge following. As devastating as it would be for me being a Victory supporter, it would be for a greater good.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:30am
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
I want this to succeed .. but, there are limits to my generous spirit – hands off Harry
Isn’t Emmo also a West Sydney boy? Also, I get the feeling H & his family don’t want to live in Sydney.
I know Lucas was involved with a previous potential West Sydney bid; & I’m sure Timmy has a coaching clinic in the region. How good would that be if Timmy & Lucas were playing HAL next year?
April 4th 2012 @ 9:32am
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:32am | Report comment
Harry and the Victory are having a few issues re the deal negotiated by, you guessed it, Bernie Mandic
Imagine if Harry heads up Sydney West – the prodigal son returning home
Imagine how Sydney FC and Melbourne Victory would react…
April 4th 2012 @ 9:35am
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:35am | Report comment
What’s your source for the allegation that Harry & MVFC have issues?
That sort of rubbish allegation has been repeated again and again – before H signed, when H arrived, after H started playing – it’s boring and, each time it’s proven to be untrue. I can’t believe people get things wrong so often but keep repeating the same nonsense.
Insiders at MVFC have recently mentioned there are absolutely no issues with both Harry & Carlos playing for MVFC next season.
April 4th 2012 @ 11:00am
Nathan of Perth said | April 4th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
After the whiteboard altercation I expect MVFC to announce Harry as Player-Manager.
April 4th 2012 @ 12:16pm
JAJI said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:16pm | Report comment
Fussball Harry’s new agency is quite a large organisation if you look at their website. The deal Mandic struck with Victory is so complicated half the Victory dont understand it – and Mandic is making life for the new agency extremely difficult
Fussball I tipped on this site 6 months ago Graham ARnold should be signed by Sydney FC and it should be happening this week. Another tip for you – the excellent Gary Cole will hopefully sign Hernandez once Sydney FC get rid of a few players in their salary cap….. what odds do you give me?
April 4th 2012 @ 8:15am
Hbomb@hotmail.com said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
Interesting, I wonder if Canberra will still get thrown a ball at some stage. Would love to go back to 11 teams soom
April 4th 2012 @ 9:22am
Paul said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Probably only when an additional team can be brought in, like Tasmania or a rebirthed GC.
Would think 12 teams would be the upper limit for the forseeable future.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:15am
sheek said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:15am | Report comment
I don’t see how this is a last resort decision. I would have Western Sydney before Gold Coast any day, in any football code.
It makes perfect, practical common sense for all the football codes to be represented in the greater west of Sydney. The only code that doesn’t get it remains rugby union.
The GWS must have the highest, or at least one of the highest youth growth populations in the country. Almost certainly more so than the south-east corridor between Brisbane & Gold Coast, or Central Coast, or south-east suburbs of Melbourne.
Ignore it at your own peril…..
April 4th 2012 @ 1:43pm
ItsCalled AussieRules said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:43pm | Report comment
Spot on Sheek.
This is the best place in Australia to kick off an A-Leageu team. It was just a matter of timing and funding.
Crazy Clive has given it the impetus that it needed.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:19am
Futbanous said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:19am | Report comment
Let me make a prediction,not a bold one either,neither is it rocket science.
This team will be successful if one key factor is addressed.,that is bringing the tribes of Western Sydney together.
It will not fail because of lack of finance,Frank Lowy will lose too much face for that. Their is no desperation here,Frank has put his balls on the washing line,don’t ever try to remove the pegs.
No need to go over the number of Socceroos produced,former NSL clubs number of Juniors etc, it is a genuine heartland of football in Australia. It is in Sydney, a key market for TV,unlike the Gold Coast,lets be blunt a pimple on the TV market.
So forget finance its a given,what needs to be observed is how the club(read FFA) brings the area together to support this club.
How do you get Marconi,Sydney United & the rest the junior associations to relate to it?
First lets look at it ,the area its massive in population over 2 million. Thats as big as Brisbane.
Having lived in both areas for a number of years there is no comparison in the tradition of football in Brisbane & that of West Sydney.
Bring them together & away it goes.
First it needs a name an International marquee. That indicates to the skeptical football fans including the Euros(& This has the biggest concentration of Euros than any other in Australia) that its serious.
Second an Aussie marquee from the area like Tim Cahill or Scwarzer or Harry or Emerton.
How you get the former NSL clubs onside & the dozens of other semi professional clubs onside is more problematic,but it needs to be addressed immediately so they can be included.
Juniors are easier to engage with clinics ,giveaways & so on.
Even a West Sydney website with an interactive part for Juniors to engage with.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:50am
MelbCro said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:50am | Report comment
“How you get the former NSL clubs onside & the dozens of other semi professional clubs onside is more problematic,but it needs to be addressed immediately so they can be included.”
Why exactly do the former NSL clubs have to come on board? Makes no sense to me. can’t a West Sydney franchise stand on its own feet?
April 4th 2012 @ 9:17am
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:17am | Report comment
We don’t need the ex-NSL clubs, its just that as usual its those you decry as plastics and unworthy football fans are doing their best to reach out to other fans like you and as usual you’re shutting them down. Reconciliation is a 2-way street, but you keep holding that burning rock of hatred in your hand waiting for he right time to throw it, it’s not us getting burned is it?
Having links to the clubs already in WS (ie the WS ex-NSL clubs) would be a nice to have in terms of tapping into a market that already likes the game rather than trying to ‘ convert fans’ as the AFL has to do, but I feel that there are plenty of fans already in the area not aligned yet to ex-NSL teams and certainly not bitter like you lot that will jump at the opportunity to get on board with a HAL team. Time will tell of course.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:22am
Futbanous said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Your probably right MelbCro they don’t need to get on board in reality,believe me I know where your coming from.
But I meant in a goodwill sense.
Better to have these clubs onside than offside. After all if this club is looking to use the other clubs in the area as a means of recruiting talent, able to step up to the next level, it needs all football parties in the area to be co-operative.
Given this areas record of producing quality players for both the NSL,A-League & Socceroos any west Sydney club needs to make most of any relationship with any existing clubs.
April 4th 2012 @ 1:45pm
ItsCalled AussieRules said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:45pm | Report comment
You’re right MelbCro, the NSL clubs don’t need to do anything.
There are plenty of people in west Sydney who would be interested.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:21am
Chris said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
I would really like a second Sydney team in the A-League. But professional sporting teams only succeed if they are well planned, funded and supported. I have grave doubts that any of these criteria will be met if this rumour is true.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:28am
Fussball ist unser leben said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:28am | Report comment
This is no rumour Chris.
Source: http://www.footballaustralia.com.au/news-display/ffa-statement-on-western-sydney-joining-hyundai-a-league/46682
“The Football Federation Australia has today confirmed that deliberations about the establishment of a new Community Club representing Western Sydney in the Hyundai A-League have advanced significantly in the past few days.
FFA will issue a statement at 2.15pm today in relation to the latest developments. Until such time, FFA will make no comment on today’s media coverage on the topic.”
Apparently the following names have been reserved with ASIC:
1. West Sydney Football Club
2. Western Sydney FC
3. Sydney West FC
4. Sydney West Football Club
PS: In case you’re wondering … at this stage, I think the FFA only intends on establishing ONE team in the region
April 4th 2012 @ 8:37am
Lucan said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Let’s hop Clive isn’t the one to have reserved them.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:39am
whiskeymac said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:39am | Report comment
cant say those names are catchy but are perfunctory… interesting how they went with Western/ West in all their variations of FC and Football Club (outstanding imagination from a committee no doubt) – when i thought most of the previous names/ marketers shunned that moniker.
still lets see the colurs now..
good to see Popovic linked to the post….
April 4th 2012 @ 9:40am
Mals said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:40am | Report comment
The new team must have the name West in it. It would be a big mistake to call them the Sydney XYZ…..
I like West Sydney Rovers as a name. I know this was the name of a previously failed bid but couldn’t it be revived??
April 4th 2012 @ 10:25am
Whites said | April 4th 2012 @ 10:25am | Report comment
Apparently the following names have been reserved with ASIC:
1. West Sydney Football Club @ Parramatta
2. Western Sydney FC @ Belmore
3. Sydney West FC @ Penrith
4. Sydney West Football Club @ Campbelltown.
April 4th 2012 @ 11:26am
Nathan of Perth said | April 4th 2012 @ 11:26am | Report comment
It would have been hilarious if Palmer’s mob had created a lobby group with name #3 or #4.
April 4th 2012 @ 12:58pm
David Jones said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:58pm | Report comment
He will register rival names and establish West Sydney Football just to annoy Lowy and keep an eye on the FFA.
You can bet on it.
April 4th 2012 @ 7:13pm
bart said | April 4th 2012 @ 7:13pm | Report comment
I think ‘Sydney International’ has a good ring to it, suits the location i think having grown up there.
April 4th 2012 @ 8:36am
Paul said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:36am | Report comment
This has happened two years too late. WS should have been brought in with NQ, there was no need for a club at GC when the Roar were only getting modest crowds.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:47am
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:47am | Report comment
the past is the past Paul. decisions made have been made, all we can do is debate what is in front of us now. The original PFA report into the APL recommended 2 teams per major population centre IIRC. For whatever reason that didn’t happen, but if WS gets off the ground it will be in place(WS/SFC & MVC/MHT) finally. The thought of 6 big derbies per HAL season (3 in Syd, 3 in Melb) are mouthwatering for the suits at Foxsports I imagine and your non Syd/Melb fans like me should enjoy the viewing:)
April 4th 2012 @ 8:43am
Lucan said | April 4th 2012 @ 8:43am | Report comment
GCU and NQF were for the World Cup bid. Pure and simple.
A West Sydney franchise wasn’t going to add as much to our WC bid as Townsville and the Gold Coast.
Can we please stop saying in hindsight that WS should’ve gone in ahead of the two failed Queensland sides, there was a legitmate reason for the now doomed QLD experiment.
April 4th 2012 @ 12:01pm
AGO74 said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:01pm | Report comment
Agree with you Lucan.
I also believe that a western Sydney team – whilst potentially eating into Sydney FC’s support initially -will benefit Sydney FC in the long term.
April 4th 2012 @ 12:05pm
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
of course it will benefit Sydney in the long run, a HAL game in the Sydney area every week, forcing people to pick one r the other will inevitably mean some more choose the Sky Blues. The derbies are 3 guaranteed marquee games per season (unlike finals which are not guaranteed) with which to blow the trumpet of the game o the unwashed. Overall, this has the potential to be the best thing to happen to SFC since Dwight Yorke. I estimate SFC will lose at most 1000 fans in the short term as those that currently travel to Moore Pk from the west decide to jump ship, but its not like the SkyBlues can’t get them back and more in the medium term. A successful WS team benefits the entire league and sport.
April 4th 2012 @ 9:03am
Tigranes said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:03am | Report comment
If soccer needs $5M of funding to boost the popularity of the sport in the area, what hope does the AFL have in boosting their sport? There are well over 100,000 soccer players in western sydney already?
I would have thought Sydney Athletic would have been a better name for the club.
As for home grounds, they could alternate between Parramarra, Penrith, Campbelltown and Belmore. Maybe even play some games at Edensor Park?
April 4th 2012 @ 9:06am
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 9:06am | Report comment
To play at multiple home grounds is box office poison, just ask the official nomads of the NSL: Sydney Olympic. Pick Parra and occasionally move the odd special game ( regional round) to a different place(campbelltown, Penrith etc) to grow the support base and engage with new fans.
April 4th 2012 @ 1:44pm
PeterK said | April 4th 2012 @ 1:44pm | Report comment
I’m with you Kasey. And I like that you allow for a few games to be elsewhere.
April 4th 2012 @ 2:12pm
Kasey said | April 4th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
of coursePK, I want this to suceed, I think it will be a huge shot in the arm for the game. Sydney is the media capital of this country, if WS can be as big as MVC, the overall perception of the league that is transmitted via the various talking heads will be greatly improved.
April 4th 2012 @ 7:15pm
bart said | April 4th 2012 @ 7:15pm | Report comment
agreed, hope FFA are reading some of these posts.