What would happen if Pocock was hit by a bus?
By Brett McKay, 5 Apr 2012 Brett McKay is a Roar Expert
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Wallabies player David Pocock takes the ball forward. AAP Image/Dave Hunt
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You’d rightly be concerned for the bus’s well-being, initially. But looking beyond the literal, just how good is the depth of Australian No. 7s behind the premier openside in the country?
The public bus test is something that I like to apply from time to time because it forces immediate contemplation of something that you otherwise wouldn’t want to consider.
I most recently applied it to the spin-bowling ranks within Australian cricket, and the answer there – worryingly – is still no clearer.
Nevertheless, in New Zealand during the Rugby World Cup late last year, Pocock was hit by the metaphorical bus. The Wallabies, and more specifically the selection and planning of coach Robbie Deans, were left to look a little foolish as a result.
Happily, Pocock is again fit and firing, and seems to have taken to the Western Force captaincy like a duck to water. And with another Super Rugby competition under way, and with the international season nearing, are Australia’s openside stocks any better?
Happily, I think they are. Paul Cully did too, about a month ago, but I think things have improved even since then.
Looking around the five Australian teams, I think it’s now safe to conclude that there is considerably more depth behind Pocock than there was, and even more than when the Rugby World Cupn squad was selected. Ben McCalman shouldn’t have to worry about resuming his unsuccessful understudy role any time soon.
While the Reds have essentially kept their championship forward pack together, it’s interesting to note what is either the promotion of young Liam Gill, or the drop off of Beau Robinson.
Robinson is probably still in front of the apprentice for the moment, but there isn’t a lot of difference between the two at the breakdown. If Robinson is still in front, it can’t be by much now. Gill has really come along after gaining experience off the bench last year, though is still prone to the odd brain explosion infringement that youth creates.
That said, Robinson has been off the mark so far this year, perhaps a barometer for how the Reds are going in general. If he has any designs on adding to his sole Wallaby appearance, he has to reclaim both the No. 7 jersey and his 2011 form within the next month.
Apart from once-warm pies, the Canberra Stadium media box is perched directly above the commentary and coaches boxes, and it was from this perfectly elevated vantage point that I paid close attention to young Brumby Michael Hooper last weekend.
Hooper won all the plaudits and platitudes for his demolition job on the Highlanders a few weeks back, and there’s no question his star is rising rapidly.
What was noticeable about Hooper was the way he operates within the middle thirty or so metres of the field, and particularly how well he picks his times to attack the breakdown. It’s probably not that much different to how Pocock operates, though I don’t recall Pocock having the same patience at the same age.
That’s not to say that Hooper is destined to better Pocock, just that he clearly has a wise head on young shoulders. 2012 might be a bit soon for higher honours, but I’m quite certain Hooper will play for Australia sooner rather than later.
Pat McCutcheon started the season as the Waratahs’ preferred openside, but his horrible ankle break in Dunedin has opened the door for Chris Alcock to continue where he left off in 2011.
Alcock plays with a different level of physicality to McCutcheon, and it was for this reason that many a Roarer suggested he should’ve been wearing the New South Wales No. 7 from the outset in 2012. You could say that Alcock has the size to play the game that Phil Waugh always tried to.
Down in Melbourne, it was interesting to see young Tom Chamberlain had been keeping England international Michael Lipman on the bench up until this week, especially when the Rebel’s own profiles list Chamberlain as a blindside.
And it’s obvious that he is a blindsider, because he doesn’t play that natural ‘fetcher’ role even as well as Jarrod Saffy does. This in itself is interesting, too, because I do wonder if the thought has been given to playing Saffy at openside.
Though Saffy and Chamberlain’s dimensions are essentially the same, Saffy looks to be the more natural openside build. Chamberlain’s impressive tackling stats wouldn’t be lost at blindside either way. If someone from the Army could arrange that for me, that’d be grouse, as you guys put it.
This brings me back to Perth, where I’ve had similar thoughts about Pocock and Matt Hodgson. Like the two Rebels, Hodgson and Pocock share similar height and weight proportions, though to see them in the flesh you would swear Hodgson was the smaller, openside build. There’s no other way of saying it, Pocock’s bloody enormous now.
I think the Force have got it right this season, though, playing Hodgson at No. 8 in McCalman’s absence, because it’s essentially allowed Hodgson to play as a second opensider, with Richard Brown and Angus Cottrell both playing well so far on the blind.
It shouldn’t really make much difference from playing at blindside, but Hodgson seems to be relishing the extra freedom to roam at the breakdown and in attack from No. 8, and indeed, scored one of the tries of the year last weekend against the Reds.
The depth behind Pocock might be a bit stronger now, and I’ll be keeping an eye on how Hooper and Gill progress over the rest of the Super Rugby season, but Hodgson still looks to be heading the queue behind his Western Force skipper at the moment.
We still don’t need Pocock to go near public buses, of course, but at least if the worst-case scenario returns, we’re a lot better equipped than we were not too long ago.
Brett McKay is a former non-tackling scrumhalf and not-quite-1st Grade middle order stalwart. A rugby and cricket expert for The Roar since July 2009 (having joined in Sept 2008), Brett has written for Inside Rugby and Cricket Australia, and is also PLAY Canberra's rugby correspondent. He tweets from @BMcSport
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April 5th 2012 @ 1:30am
Paul Cully said | April 5th 2012 @ 1:30am | Report comment
In answer to your original question Brett, I think Warren Gatland would immediately be charged and face a lengthy spell in the Big House.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:38am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:38am | Report comment
HA!!
..I’d be checking the rego papers too, in case one ‘S.Warburton’ appears…
April 5th 2012 @ 11:37am
Ben S said | April 5th 2012 @ 11:37am | Report comment
Nah, Sam doesn’t sweat the small stuff, Brett. :-0
April 5th 2012 @ 1:38am
James D said | April 5th 2012 @ 1:38am | Report comment
What would happen if Pocock got hit by a bus? Well the bus would need extensive repairs.
April 5th 2012 @ 1:41am
Johnno said | April 5th 2012 @ 1:41am | Report comment
Matt hodgson who seems to be the 2nd no 7. ANd on the subject of Hodgson. Why has his stocks suddenly risen again so highly this year, after the public cast him as the no3 option and seemed outraged that Hodgson was sent to the world cup in the end as cover for pock rather than Beau Robinson.
The hype of Beau robinson has really died down with the reds form down this year.
waratahs have a few no 7′s i don’t even know there names one broke his ankle vs the highlanders at the indoor stadium in Dunedien
and micheal lipman is aussie who played for england so not eligible for wallaby selection
Jarryd saffy was a player i really liked last year hasn’t been as dominant but there is something about him i really like it is his workrate which i like and his no nonsense approach like george smith he just get’s stuck in., and was a good league player.
And don’t laugh there is always george smith in Japan he is 31 still playing good rugby. if he is managed could still be useful.
I thought george smith was cast aside to early at 29 he still had more too offer would of been handy back up in the world cup.
Ben mcelman no way , was a failure experiment if ever there was one for no 7 at last years world cup.
i think someone like the rugby league player Anthony watmough would be an awesome no 7 by the way has the right build and same with mick crocker too would be good no 7. Dallas johnson would handy no 7 to if he switched over, .
April 5th 2012 @ 7:55am
Riccardo said | April 5th 2012 @ 7:55am | Report comment
Hey Johnno.
“I thought george smith was cast aside to early at 29 he still had more too offer would of been handy back up in the world cup.”
I too was surprised by this. As a Kiwi and a fantical AB supporter he was one of the special guys to be feared and while he may not have been the dynamo he was still a smart and able replacement, especially in the cauldron of a WC.
Deans missed a trick there IMO.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:05am
kingplaymaker said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:05am | Report comment
Riccardo whether it was right to let Smith go or not, it was his decision to go and both Deans and the ARU lobbied very hard to keep him. If anyone’s guilty it would have been the ARU for not keeping him as they paid the wages.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:11am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:11am | Report comment
i agree riccardo. gSmith will go down in history as one of the great AB’s honoured enemies. finnegan described george as “the fat kid”. apparently george was useless at training and suprisingly fitness. george had a very low beep test score, yet get him on the field and he ran all day. this is an example of brains vs brawn. george was a super smart player.
yeah deans should’ve kept george there as backup and ARU should have refused to release him until post the WC
April 5th 2012 @ 8:39am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:39am | Report comment
“waratahs have a few no 7′s i don’t even know there names one broke his ankle vs the highlanders..”
You’re right Johnno, I should’ve made mention of their names and this injury in the article. Wait, hang on a minute….
And George Smith wasn’t cast aside anyway, he sought and was granted a release to leave Australia a year earlier than planned (and contracted).
April 5th 2012 @ 11:13am
Justin said | April 5th 2012 @ 11:13am | Report comment
True Brett but was he pushed out. It was obvious Pocock was hailed by Deans as numero uno and that George wouldnt really get a look in…
April 5th 2012 @ 2:12pm
faitala.lima said | April 5th 2012 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
pocock simply outstaged george smith towards the end of smiths super rugby career. i dont think he wouldve been able to keep up wit super rugby at 31. he stands out in the northern hemisphere because the standard up there isnt quite as high as the southern hemisphere..
April 5th 2012 @ 1:43am
BlackWave said | April 5th 2012 @ 1:43am | Report comment
David Pocock would be dead. But his biceps would still be alive though.
April 5th 2012 @ 6:12am
Who Needs Melon said | April 5th 2012 @ 6:12am | Report comment
Could I have them?
I’d have them surgically attached… somewhere.
April 5th 2012 @ 6:31am
p.Tah said | April 5th 2012 @ 6:31am | Report comment
We’d then have a new open side and a new blindside flanker.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:41am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
problem solved right there, PT…
April 5th 2012 @ 2:24am
bluerose said | April 5th 2012 @ 2:24am | Report comment
lets hope and pray that your outrageous question doesnt come true………
April 5th 2012 @ 2:29am
sportym said | April 5th 2012 @ 2:29am | Report comment
Non issue: Brad Thorn has retired.
April 5th 2012 @ 4:35am
Pot Hale said | April 5th 2012 @ 4:35am | Report comment
Retired?
Brad Thorn is gearing up to do the double with Leinster to go with his still shiny RWC medal.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:30pm
sportym said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:30pm | Report comment
Yup!
Retired from turning Wallabies into Road Kill!
April 5th 2012 @ 2:13pm
faitala.lima said | April 5th 2012 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
now brad thorn woulda definitely hospitalized the bus …
April 5th 2012 @ 6:17am
Moaman said | April 5th 2012 @ 6:17am | Report comment
Brett something that appeared to alarm nobody last season was the trend by the Wallabies to take a 5-2 bench split into important internationals;The buses are circling……..;-)
April 5th 2012 @ 8:48am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:48am | Report comment
Moa, several Australian SR teams have adopted the same trend at times this year, too; some by injury to scrumhalves, some by preference to keep it in the tight..
April 5th 2012 @ 6:18am
Who Needs Melon said | April 5th 2012 @ 6:18am | Report comment
My money is on Hooper. I know he hasnt the experience yet but have you seen him interviewed? Very, very impressive player and human being. This guy is going to be something.
April 5th 2012 @ 6:52am
millard said | April 5th 2012 @ 6:52am | Report comment
wnm;yes i got same impression
April 5th 2012 @ 7:19am
Grimmace said | April 5th 2012 @ 7:19am | Report comment
Even whe he played a few games in 2010 while George Smith was injured he was impressive. I agree that he is a very smart player. Has a fimiliar story as GS too, recruited from Manly Colts in his late teens to the Horse Men (probably doesn’t mean much) and then a couple of years being mentored by one fo the greats.
I recon he has the wood on Gill at this stage and for some reason I just don’t rate Matt Hodgson.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:07am
kingplaymaker said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:07am | Report comment
WNM I think Deans needs to bring Hooper and Gill, or any other promising openside for that matter, into the Wallabies as soon as possible so that they are prepared for the Lions next year. By then it will be too late to introduce them to international rugby.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:50am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Indeed Melon, very impressive for a young punk in only his second season. Has a good grasp of the cliche book already, too!!
April 5th 2012 @ 7:34am
kingplaymaker said | April 5th 2012 @ 7:34am | Report comment
‘The Wallabies, and more specifically the selection and planning of coach Robbie Deans, were left to look a little foolish as a result.’ I don’t agree with that, as Ireland didn’t field a specialist open-side flanker during their victory, but a converted blindside, and the best weapon to slow down the increase in muscle was another blindside as the Wallabies fielded. What’s more Henry had no backup but is praised as a coaching God.
As for the main point of the article, yes in fact Australia does look good for openside depth at the moment. Gill and Hooper seem the standout young talents, though Chamberlain and maybe Alcock could well turn into something. As usual in Australia though, there are too many good players in one position and not enough in another. Sure there are many good opensides, but no massive Kaino/Dusautoiresque blindside, plenty of 10s but no big Nonu/SBWesque 12s and 13s. Why can’t Australia find a good player in every position, instead of several in one and none in another?
April 5th 2012 @ 8:04am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:04am | Report comment
kpm – its called depth; but u should know that. sorry couldnt help myself. lets not start another epic on depth. again sorry
April 5th 2012 @ 8:53am
Brett McKay said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:53am | Report comment
KPM, we’ve had this RWC discussion previously, so I won’t go into it again, except to say I’m not just talking about the Ireland game…
April 5th 2012 @ 9:13am
kingplaymaker said | April 5th 2012 @ 9:13am | Report comment
Brett we have, as we have doubtless discussed the miracle of Henry doing apparently the same thing and praised to the rafters.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:03am
Kane said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:03am | Report comment
Seems like NZ is having the same problem,
Matt Todd – Crusaders
John Hardie – Highlanders
Karl Lowe – Hurricanes
April 5th 2012 @ 8:06am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:06am | Report comment
kane – i’m assumin your being ironic bt u missed
jack lam – Hurricanes
luke braid – blues
chiefs – veteran latimer
April 5th 2012 @ 8:07am
RebelRanger said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:07am | Report comment
what about Luke Braid. I think he’s the future. Just needs to get out of Auckland where talent dies.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:12am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:12am | Report comment
amen to that rebel. aucks need to get their game together and rediscover team work and team pride.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:21am
Riccardo said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:21am | Report comment
Who’s the man to lead them back to that tho Mania?
Lam has a team of stars, not a star team – excuse the cliche but it’s an accurate summation.
Frankly Lam & the Auckland management in general have to be somewhat accountable after several seasons of mediocrity but aside from the blame game who’s the next cab off the rank?
Jamie Joseph would soon knock ‘em into shape! Hammett would just fire the lot of them (well he’s already got rid of some of them!)
Seriously tho – who?
Goldy? JK? Dare I whisper GH?
April 5th 2012 @ 8:31am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:31am | Report comment
riccardo – it cant be piri or nonu as they’re outsiders.
but aucks admin and lam arent the only ones to blame here. the kinda of change they need has to come from the players. they’re the ones that are embarrssing themselves and made to be losers. everyone blames lam but the players have to take responsibility as well. they need a strong captain. mealamu is a great player but u need someone who can lead them out of this malaise.
with the players they have it must be mental thats letting them down. they need a captain like buckShelford who not only lead by example but also threatened the players if they didnt perform. walterLittle in his book said that buck told him if he didnt perform then buck said he’d smash him. but when little got caught on the wrong side of the ruck buck covered him with his body and took the rucking. thats the kinda player that get them out of this mess.
basically they need a mongrel that can inspire
lams should nto be alone in getting the blame
April 5th 2012 @ 9:24am
Riccardo said | April 5th 2012 @ 9:24am | Report comment
Mania,
A valid point, hence why I semi-qualified it “somewhat accountable”.
Nonu and Piri MUST be part of the charade too mate as neither is shining in their new environment. Piri’s misses on Barrett and Jane, in particular, were woeful.
Granted we are only part way into the Super season but surely their lack of form is not only a concern but an indictment of my argument.
Reckon Kev is more about leading by example (not much of a talker) and while this may or may not be appropriate surely the onus of appointing/recruiting the Captain you speak of lies squarely with Lam and/or Management after a few seasons of clear ineptitude. Their discipline for example is appalling.
Anyway, it may well be a moot point given Lam’s contract is up this year & he’s been linked with Bath, I think? I think the weight of public opinion may catch up with him this year in anycase, rightly or wrongly.
IMO, they have an opportunity to win comfortably at AAMI park with an almost full complement tonight and they need to.
And now we have 2 questions: 1) Who’s next? and 2) Captain?
April 5th 2012 @ 9:30am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 9:30am | Report comment
riccardo – piri and nonu get equal blame for the losing . what i was saying is they’re not the ones to leads the blues out of this situation. i’m a canes supporter so piri’s missed tackles made me happy.
blues have fallen far but i being the optimist i keep thinking they might win their next one. losing to rebels would be unacceptable.
yeah kevens a great leader/player but blues need something more.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:30am
Albo said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:30am | Report comment
If you don’t mind I think it’s unfair of you kiwi’s to wish the Blues better. Your over achieving Super teams are making the rest of us look terrible as it is (as much as we are certainly not helping ourselves either). If the Blues start to click then we’re all stuffed.
April 5th 2012 @ 8:41am
mania said | April 5th 2012 @ 8:41am | Report comment
albo – we’re not so much wishing them to be better, we’re kinda sticking the knife in cos they suck. its a wellington vs auckland thing…actually its an all of NZ vs auckland thing. haters and all that. kinda like aus vs sydney
April 5th 2012 @ 9:42am
Emric said | April 5th 2012 @ 9:42am | Report comment
Auckland are a evil which must be put into their place.
April 5th 2012 @ 2:16pm
faitala.lima said | April 5th 2012 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
i think Cane something from the chiefs would be a bit of a threat to all of the above ..