Dark days for New Zealand fans
By Vanilla Gorilla, 13 Apr 2012 Vanilla Gorilla is a Roar Pro
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My workmate in Perth often makes jokes about my homeland, New Zealand. His favourite is “when you go to New Zealand you wind your clock forward four hours… then back 40 years.”
I chuckle at this with some level of annoyance. I can happily reminisce about the land of the long white cloud, with its slightly backward lifestyle and laid-back attitude.
In many ways New Zealand is very progressive.
The first country to allow woman to vote, it also had a female prime minister in consecutive terms, from two different parties.
In terms of racial matters, the colonisation of the country seemed relatively progressive in relation to how the colonialists treated the indigenous people of other countries they had conquered.
I was proud of the fact that we were a rather liberal country, especially when viewed in relation to our big brother Australia.
However, I am sad to say that this 40-year gap has embarrassed me for the first time. In a short period, with the help of social media and talkback radio, New Zealand has regressed to the dark ages.
The recent racial outburst, in regards to Pat Lam’s Polynesian descent being responsible for the poor performance of the Auckland Blues, can only be described as cowardly, childish and disgusting.
Not all of these comments have been said in malice. Some could have been tongue in cheek.
But the fact that anyone could think, or joke, that his being Polynesian is the reason for their poor form is absurd.
Bear in mind this is the man many thought should have succeeded Graham Henry for the All Blacks coaching job only a few months ago.
This sort of racial vilification has no place in sport.
It conjures thoughts of the dark old days of boxing in America when a black athlete could be glorified and considered the greatest fighter in the world, yet was not allowed to eat in a restaurant with white people.
Perhaps these rednecks have not looked further afield to see how black coaches have succeeded and are revered as great minds of the game.
The perfect example is Mike Tomlin, an African American in his mid 30s.
He has won a Super Bowl and coached in two, been named coach of the year and holds a stellar 68 percent winning percentage. All this in a five-year career.
In four of the last five seasons one of the coaches in the Super Bowl has been African-American, with Tomlin appearing twice.
You would declare this a great career, right?
Well, let us look at how Pat Lam has performed as a coach.
If I remember correctly Pat was given his coaching gig at the end of 2009.
Since this time Auckland rugby, across both the National Provincial Championship and Super Rugby, has a record of 32 wins and 24 losses, with a winning percentage of 57 percent.
Do you know who had a similar winning record and is currently a national hero in two different countries?
Graham Henry.
While coaching Wales he had a record of 20 wins and 13 losses, equating to a winning percentage of 60 percent.
He lost a Lions series and lost a World Cup while coaching the All Blacks.
Before an Auckland supporter now jumps on here and states that Wales is a minnow in European and world rugby I wish to point something out.
Since 1998 the Auckland Blues have finished in the top four of the Super Rugby ladder three times. Do you know who was coaching one of those teams?
Pat Lam, last year!
Since 1998 – that’s 14 years – the Blues have only finished above mid-table three times.
That means that Pat Lam has coached one third of the seasons which one could possibly be described as successes in the last 14 years.
This illusion that the Blues are supposed to be world beaters and a dominant force in New Zealand rugby harks back to the days when they had the entire All Blacks forward pack and a majority of the backline.
This was after the 1995 World Cup loss to South Africa. It’s been 14 years now – let it go.
Here are their final ladder positions since 1998.
Super 12: 9th, 6th, 11th, 6th, 1st, 5th and 7th (in only two out of seven seasons did they finish in the top half of the competition).
Super 14: 8th, 4th, 6th, 9th and 7th (in two out of five seasons they’ve finished in the top half of the competition).
Super Rugby: 4th.
I somehow do not see the problem being Pat Lam.
Yes, they are performing poorly this year. But is this all his fault?
I was very critical of Mark Hammet for ejecting Nonu and Weepu. However it seems that he has pulled an old medieval trick by hurling their carcasses over the wall to infect someone else’s castle.
Since jettisoning these two the Hurricanes have looked like a respectable side and appear to be playing with more vigour.
In contrast Nonu was busy shopping himself to Japanese clubs during the pre-season, rather than playing. Piri Weepu is pretty large for what is essentially a land mammal.
These are supposed to be your leaders; good luck to anyone.
So perhaps it is not Lam who needs to be blamed.
Perhaps some of the players have post-World Cup hangovers, which cannot be cured by his style of coaching. I dare say no one could fix it.
Lam has been let down by his players; he has been successful before and will continue to be no matter where he goes.
Maybe the Auckland and New Zealand public should realise this before we ship another one of our quality coaches overseas.
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April 13th 2012 @ 4:12am
Geoff Brisbane now California said | April 13th 2012 @ 4:12am | Report comment
In a short period, with the help of social media and talkback radio, New Zealand has regressed to the dark ages. Really??? shows how much influence has been allocated to media. NZ has progressed like every other country and like every other country it still has it’s share of negative and positive aspects. As a maori living 13 years in Aussie (Qld which I love) and now in California I have seen many many negative aspects of life portrayed in all of the places I have lived and visited. The thing that no-one has established not that it makes any difference was how many negative racial comments did Pat Lam receive from Polynesian or Maori. Because believe it or not we have always been great at running down the “brothers”. The recent racial outburst, in regards to Pat Lam’s Polynesian descent being responsible for the poor performance of the Auckland Blues, can only be described as cowardly, childish and disgusting I agree with this wholeheartedly and it has been evidenced in Aus in US and it is totally unacceptable. But to use a broad brush that captures all those in NZ is wrong, please always stipulate it is only the very/ very few and for some reason they seem to get so much attention. NZ, Aus, US etc are great countries but the reality is there are idiots all over the globe and the worse thing is when they are given media attention.
April 13th 2012 @ 5:52am
mania said | April 13th 2012 @ 5:52am | Report comment
i agree geoff – VG racism is everywhere. were u aware of the anti-indian sentiment aus has or the perception that Indians have that they’re not welcomed in aus? do u realise the treatment abo’s?
what happened to Lam is disgraceful and disgusting but everyone including Lam need to f get over it and get on with it. racism will always be around. u can either cry about or move on and over come it. “there is no better revenge than living well”. Lam needs put this racist cr4p behind him and get back to work and start getting his team to play with some team work and pride. his ultimate revenge to those racist remarks is to have his team perform and give him some success
April 13th 2012 @ 4:14am
west said | April 13th 2012 @ 4:14am | Report comment
Lam may not be the problem with the Blues. Blues have lost 5 from 6 there is a problem. End of the day it comes down to the players on the field and the decisions they make when it counts that determines the outcome, Lam can only do so much preparing and directing its up to the players when the whistle is blown. Henry may help guide Lam and help shine some new light on things. Racist has no place in Rugby All Black true supporters know this better than anyone and anyone who thinks any different are not a supporter of rugby or anyone that I would associate with I would like to think I speak for majority of kiwis.
April 13th 2012 @ 5:00am
Ben S said | April 13th 2012 @ 5:00am | Report comment
Pat Lam has already coached in Europe. If he was in demand he would have been kept on. Saying the blame isn’t his is the same logic as saying it’s Weepu’s fault or Nonu’s fault. Lam is clearly a poor selector, and his sides generally look tactically rudderless.
April 13th 2012 @ 5:47am
mania said | April 13th 2012 @ 5:47am | Report comment
poor selector? he’s fielded more than enough quality worldClass players in every game this season. if they’re not performing on the field its the players fault. Lam is to blame, but so are the players, in fact the players are more so. they’re the ones that look like idiots out there when they lose. 1 from 6? thats pathetic. to lose to rebels is unacceptable.
i believe Lam needs to go but with him should go the rest of the Blues squad. they’re a disgrace. rip up all their contracts now and tell them they have to re-earn a place in the squad.
April 15th 2012 @ 1:02am
Ben S said | April 15th 2012 @ 1:02am | Report comment
If you are mixing and matching Mathewson and Anscombe with a clearly unfit Weepu then you are not a good selector.
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It’s harder to coach in Super Rugby than Europe? I doubt it.
April 13th 2012 @ 8:40am
sixo_clock said | April 13th 2012 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Coached in Europe is not an argument. The hardest comps in World Rugby are in the Southern Hemisphere, Europe is a place where our coaches pick up some experience but if they want to be in the mix for the AB’s, Wallabies or Springboks gig they come home when they think they are ready.
Despise any racists and agree with anyone who thinks it is out-of shape/form/attitude from the players who are crueling the Blues’ season. These guys are paid well, have all the facilities and yet still need someone else to blame.
Smells something like the Brumbies in recent past here.
April 13th 2012 @ 1:00pm
Riccardo said | April 13th 2012 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
And the Canes in more recent years…
April 13th 2012 @ 6:35am
Moaman said | April 13th 2012 @ 6:35am | Report comment
Agree about the racism and Geoff pretty much summed it up for me.But to say Lam was thought by “many” to be GH’s successor was news to me! Never even crossed my mind.There’s a whole lot more to running a team than yelling athe blokes you picked at half-time.The way the Blues have been playing,their tactical ineptitude and their negative body-language shows me that all is not well in the state of Denmark.
Vanilla—-I used to have a sticker on my fridge-inheirited but I left it on—that said “Don’t let the turkeys drag you down”
April 13th 2012 @ 6:53am
mania said | April 13th 2012 @ 6:53am | Report comment
moaman – yeah this rumour of Lam being GH’s successor comes from when GH was addressing a pacific island conference and he was saying how the PI’s had contributed immensely and he wouldnt be surprised if Lam ended up coaching the AB’s. a throw away line that has gathered its own momentum
April 13th 2012 @ 7:52am
Kane said | April 13th 2012 @ 7:52am | Report comment
Super 12: 9th, 6th, 11th, 6th, 1st, 5th and 7th (in only two out of seven seasons did they finish in the top half of the competition).
Isn’t 6th in the top half of the table? So 3/7
Super 14: 8th, 4th, 6th, 9th and 7th (in two out of five seasons they’ve finished in the top half of the competition).
Isn’t 7th in the top half of the table? So 3/5.
Also just wondering why you chose to mention the RWC Final loss to South Africa but then start your stats since 1998 when the three years in between the RWC loss and 1999 the Blues finished 1st 1st and 2nd?
April 13th 2012 @ 10:19am
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:19am | Report comment
I think you will find that in a 12 team competition the half way point is actually 6.5, you cant have half a team. Therefore the numbers 6 and 7 are used as the mid point, this is then divided by 2 to get the number 6.5 thus if you finish 6th or 7th you are exactly mid table. that way you have 5 teams above and 5 teams below this point. Therefore finishing 6th or 7th in a 12 team competition means that you are exactly the middle. The same logic applies to a 15 team competition as well.
And yes i did start my stats at 1998 to highlight the fact that in the previous 14 years the auckland blues have been mediocre at best and highlighting that blues supporters still have a dillusion of grandour based around those 3 years. This was stated in the article. This also coincided with the last tim auckland had any success, the finished 2nd that year.
Here are the other teams average finishing position since 98
Wellington
6.57
Crusaders
2.43
Chiefs
7.14
Highlanders
7.29
Auckland
6.07
Therfore you are marginally NZ’s second best team and a looooooong way from being the crusaders. You also arent that far ahead of the chiefs and highlanders. nothing special here.
April 13th 2012 @ 9:52am
Nathan of Perth said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:52am | Report comment
“In terms of racial matters, the colonisation of the country seemed relatively progressive in relation to how the colonialists treated the indigenous people of other countries they had conquered.” <– Translation: the colonists got shot to pieces by the indigenous people repeatedly so had to come to more equitable arrangements.
Lets call it what it was
April 14th 2012 @ 2:09pm
Sprigs said | April 14th 2012 @ 2:09pm | Report comment
Well, if we want to call it like it is, let’s not recycle myths, comforting though they may be.
The historical statements here are simply incorrect.
April 13th 2012 @ 9:55am
Nathan of Perth said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:55am | Report comment
That said…
They showed a clip of the coach trying to explain his reaction; gee, I felt for the guy, it had obviously cut deep. Its a terrible, terrible thing.
April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Yep you could see that the bastards had got to him. But the point is that mean spirited bastards are always out to do that. They look for what ever way to cut to the quick.
I may sound insensitive but sometimes we just need to harden up a bit. As Bruce Lee said “why would I bother to take any notice of what my enemies have to say about me”?
April 13th 2012 @ 10:59am
Nathan of Perth said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:59am | Report comment
The problem is that half of them aren’t even supposed to be enemies, they’re supposed to be supporters!
April 13th 2012 @ 10:27am
Australian Rules said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:27am | Report comment
The footage of Lam stumbling with tears at the press conference was just awful.
For those who think these comments can be made lightly or with tongue in cheek…wake up to the 21st Century. Just not on.
April 13th 2012 @ 11:00am
Nathan of Perth said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Yup, absolutely beyond the pale.
April 14th 2012 @ 2:10pm
Sprigs said | April 14th 2012 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
I agree.
It was heart-breaking to see.
April 13th 2012 @ 9:56am
Markus said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:56am | Report comment
Social media is a primary tool of those whose opinions have been silenced by the majority.
While this has led to some incredible achievements, such as the changes of political power in Egypt et al, it also gives voice to those whose opinions have been ridiculed out of the public eye for good reason.
Be assured, people who actually believe he failed because of his race are the absolute minority.
Unfortunately, what this stupid event has done is brush over the fact that Lam has not delivered as Blues coach, purely on his own merit.
With the talent he has had available, a single semifinal appearance to go with finishes of 9th, 7th and what is looking like 10th (at best) would be unacceptable for any top level coach.
The arguments you have presented in his defense are ridiculous, having to rely on comparing a team that over the last four years would on average have had about 10 All Blacks in the starting XV, to a Welsh national team during one of their worst periods in history.
And in regards to his results being on par for the Blues since 1998, all that points out is that the Blues have been consistently underperforming.
April 13th 2012 @ 10:32am
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:32am | Report comment
one of the worst periods in welsh history… Im pretty sure at one point they won 11 in a row at one point. I think you have missed the point. I think Pat Lam is as successful as any other coach, Auckland has usually had a good line up with numerous all blacks, there seems to be somthing fundamentaly wrong with the organisation. The results over the last 14 years don’t warrant this level of critiscism.
April 13th 2012 @ 11:35am
Markus said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
“I think Pat Lam is as successful as any other coach”
That’s exactly my point. Your arguments in defence of Lam don’t really point out any accomplishments that would class him as a success, just that his predecessors were equally unsuccessful and therefore it is okay.
Blind Freddy could see that there is clearly something wrong with the organisation, and one of those things seems to be that they have been unable/willing to find a coach who can get the best out of a squad packed with proven world-class players.
April 13th 2012 @ 12:31pm
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Do you mean predecossors like David Nucifora? The man who took ACT to 3 consecutive super rugby finals, winning in 2004 and being named australian coach of the year 3 times? Surely if anyone could do it, it would be someone with this pedigree fo success right?
His record with the blues as technical advisor and coach between 05-09 7th, 8th, 4th, 6th, 9th. The issue is not the coaching, the coach is just the easiest one to blame.
April 13th 2012 @ 12:33pm
mania said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:33pm | Report comment
vg – didnt nucifora get dropped at the beginning of the season then the brumbies went on to win the finals?
April 13th 2012 @ 2:31pm
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
He was sacked at the end of the 2004 season, after the finals. He was the first coach in history to be sacked after winning the final. Since he left they havent finished above 5th. He had a winning record of 63% he then came to the blues and nothing changed. Given that Pats is currently at 57% he isnt doing to poorly.
April 13th 2012 @ 3:30pm
Cliff said | April 13th 2012 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
The general consensus is that the Brumbies made three super 12 finals is a row despite, rather than because of, Nucifora. The team basically coached themsleves and Nucifora’s record at the Blues is indicative of this. He was never a good coach, he just rode on Larkham, Gregan etc’s coat-tails.
April 13th 2012 @ 5:29pm
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 5:29pm | Report comment
Each coach which has been associated with the brumbies has averaged around 60% winning percentage. Comparable to other coaches, like Mcqueen and Eddie Jones who had access to exactly the same potential and similar statndard of players…. Remarkebly 2 of these coaches coached their national side to success, World Cups i beleive. Do you know who has a similar winning percentage in super rugby. PAT LAM!!!!!!
Mcqueen 16-8
Jones 28-20
Nucifora 24-14
I dont imagine the team coached itself under Mcqueen and Jones, therefore i dont beleive it would be under nucifora.
April 13th 2012 @ 10:22am
Bobby_JJV said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:22am | Report comment
I’d like to know who these people are that thought Lam would be Graham Henry’s successor? As a pretty full on rugby man from NZ I know no one that had Lam in line for contention at all. The first country to allow woman to vote? It’s Women. We let them all vote.
Love how you have compared only about a dozen peoples very narrow minded perspective on Lams position being the blues’ downfall to America during the 1960′s, because in my opinion that alone would be deemed offensive to an African American as you cannot compare the two, also politics has not entered this particular row between idiots writing and the media reporting it.
It is not often that the Australian media get to tar New Zealand with the racist brush is it? You should note being an ex pat that Australia has a poor reputation for its official treatment of indigenious and recently migrated peoples where NZ’s is relatively good. Individual attitudes are often terrible. To give so much attention to a tiny minority of idiots is not helping in my opinion and for Australian media to jump all over it is a joke.
Although your article is relativly well written I don’t see it’s relavance. The Blues now have the same problem as the Canes had, instead of a team vibe and culture they are now faced with individuals who think they are bigger than the team, maybe even the game. NZers will ALWAYS critisise a lacking team which makes stupid comments all the harder to avoid hear and sometimes making, but it is so very very much the minority who make things personal with rasict and biggoted comments that they are barely worth acknowledging let along dedicating a whole story to. Blues for the win this week?
April 13th 2012 @ 12:35pm
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
I think you will find at the start of the article that i stated i am proud of our progressive nature in regards to racial issues, its just a shame this happened. And the second half of the article is reinforcing one of your points. It is not pats fault that there is a poor culture in the team, David Nucifora couldnt get it done and he dealt with legitimate superstars, guys like gregan, latham, larkham, eels while at the brumbies.
April 13th 2012 @ 12:59pm
Riccardo said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:59pm | Report comment
Bobby, love your paroachialism.
I too am blindly loyal and hoping the Blues will be galvanised by this week’s media scrutiny becasue if they can’t play “together” after that there is no hope for them at all!
April 13th 2012 @ 3:36pm
Trent said | April 13th 2012 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
“You should note being an ex pat that Australia has a poor reputation for its official treatment of indigenious and recently migrated peoples where NZ’s is relatively good. Individual attitudes are often terrible. ”
Typical Kiwi chup-on-the-shoulder response- “the Aussies are worse!”.
April 13th 2012 @ 12:49pm
Riccardo said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:49pm | Report comment
Gidday Vanilla.
A good read and the moral highground well and truly attained but are we now simply fuelling the fire? This not to excuse the blinkered and nasty commentary regarding racial heritage which is childish and predominantly the realm of a few cowardly keyboard heroes. But this is the point; only a few bad apples.
The real issue is of course the Blues’ performances. I think it would be reasonable to argue Vanilla that on the back of reaching the semis last year where the Blues unfortunately capitulated to the Reds @ Suncorp, combined with the import of 2 high profile All Blacks, supporters were entitled to hope for good things this year. There were 14 current or past AB’s in this squad preseason.
It’s naive to blame just the players or just Pat Lam or even just the administration as it is a combination of all three departments. From the mismanagement of Piri and his well documented preseason embellishments to the inconsistent selection policies surrounding the halves to the seemingly non-existent defensive structure and appalling onfield discipline (again). There should be accountability across the board but I cannot see this happening.
I think Pat’s tenure is either up or will be at the end of the season. He’s an affable bloke but ultimately unsuccessful considering the talent at his disposal. Given the public clamour in this regard you can be sure it won’t be Dalton falling on his sword!
The real question is who will replace him and how far any clean-out of either players or administration goes.
April 13th 2012 @ 2:37pm
Vanilla Gorilla said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
I hope that you will read my next article which i will be writting in regards to the World Cup hang over. The bottom 2 teams in the NZ conference are currently stacked with all blacks that were a large part of the world cup success. The chiefs are filled with fringe players with the odd all black thrown in. There must be something in this right? I also agree and the point i was trying to make is that Pat Lam is not the sole one to blame, or the only one who should lose their job, if they want heads to roll. There is something fundamentally wrong with this organisation as a whole, what it is I am not sure.