Foley and White feeling the Super Rugby pinch
By David Lord, 13 Apr 2012 David Lord is a Roar Expert
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This Super Rugby round will be vital to coaches Michael Foley and Jake White. Waratah Foley is in Perth to do battle tonight with a resurgent Force, hoping Friday the 13th is but a myth.
Brumby White has the top of the Australian Conference to defend tomorrow night against the improving Rebels at Canberra Stadium.
The defending champion Reds have a bye to lick their wounds after three successive defeats, and to count the days to when Quade Cooper, Mike Harris, Ben Lucas, and the Fainga’a twins return from injury.
On paper, the Waratahs and Brumbies should win. But should, and paper, don’t count anymore.
The Waratahs are coming off a bye, so they’re fresh. Foley has made the understatement of the season that it’s time his team made some noise.
The Waratahs are a far better side than two wins and four losses, and have the backline cattle in Berrick Barnes, Tom Carter, Rob Horne, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Bernard Foley, and the exciting young winger Tom Kingston, providing the pack can win them clean and quick ball.
There’s the problem – David Pocock.
The Force’s inspirational captain and one of the best pilferers in world rugby, Pocock is a one-man destruction unit. Throw in the likes of evergreen lock Nathan Sharpe, Richard Brown, Nathan Charles, and Toby Lynn, and the much-vaunted Waratahs pack will be under intense pressure for the entire 80 minutes.
There is a litmus test here, In their last games, the powerhouse Chiefs have beaten the Force 20-12, and the Waratahs 30-13. But in the credit column, the Force hammered the Reds 45-19 in their previous game.
This Force-Waratahs clash should go down to the wire, especially as NIB Stadium is likely to be a full house.
In Canberra, how Kurtley Beale and James O’Connor play for the Rebels will severely test the Brumbies, who have found a new lease on life under Jake White.
The South African Rugby World Cup-winning coach believes the Brumbies can keep Beale and O’Connor quiet. A mighty big call.
Concentrating on the talented twosome will leave plenty of holes for Mark Gerrard, Lachlan Miller, and Mitch Inman to show their speed to great effect. Having said that, Beale and O’Connor invariably find a way around close marking.
Watch for Brumby full-back Jesse Mogg, one of the most exciting custodians in the tournament, bobbing up from nowhere with incisive runs on a regular basis. He doesn’t look the part, but he sure fulfils it.
Flanker Michael Hooper is another Brumby to watch. He’s a junior Pocock.
This game should be close, as well.
In the wash-up, it’s Michael Foley, Jake White, and two question marks? The underdogs are barking.
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April 13th 2012 @ 6:35am
kingplaymaker said | April 13th 2012 @ 6:35am | Report comment
‘have the backline cattle in Berrick Barnes, Tom Carter, Rob Horne, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Bernard Foley, and the exciting young winger Tom Kingston, providing the pack can win them clean and quick ball.’
I’m afraid I can’t agree with this. The Waratahs pack often dominate matches but the failure of the backs to make the slightest penetration in the opposition defence, let alone score tries, means the team loses.
AAC is way past it, Horne disastrous and Carter aside from the occasionally ok performance dire. Even Kingston isn’t that exciting.
If Mitchell and Turner were fit things might be different, but now the backline is not so much the Achilles heel as the Achilles leg or half-torso of the team.
April 13th 2012 @ 7:16am
David Lord said | April 13th 2012 @ 7:16am | Report comment
KPM, tonight the backline you have sold short, will be the difference between winning and losing. Having said that I’d be even more confident of their success if Sarel Pretorius was starting at 9.
April 13th 2012 @ 8:59am
rl said | April 13th 2012 @ 8:59am | Report comment
David, I reckon that would be true IF the Tahs pack can at least achieve parity against the Force pack. Big ‘if’. That backrow is simply outstanding, and Sharpey is showing the sort of form that would make him just about a walk-up start in any other country. The Force are lying in wait… they won’t have forgotten the very poor performance they put in at home against the Tahs at home last year, and the Tahs are missing all the vital ingredients from their win last year (Burgess, Turner, Beale). Time for the NSW front row to make a statement.
One of the Force’s achilles heels is in the halves, yet they have a world-class no 9 warming the bench. Foley is planning to unleash Sarel as the defences tire?
April 13th 2012 @ 9:12am
Justin said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:12am | Report comment
David KPM is right – The Tahs backline is full of plodders and just above average players mostly. The only highlights for them at this stage are Kingston and McKibbins goal kicking.
What else in that back line would have an opposition shaking? Horne hasnt broken the line since under 12s, Carter will run straight ahead, Barnes will kick and if not throw 3 man cut outs that are high and behind the man all night. Meanwhile they have their best 10 option playing at 15 and he has been disappointing so far.
Kingston may end up being an excellent 13 (his junior position I believe, first season at wing this year) and if Horne doesnt pull his finger out, it will be sooner than many people think.
April 13th 2012 @ 10:37am
Sam Taulelei said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:37am | Report comment
David
Is that not the same backline that played the Chiefs. In that match the Tahs forwards provided more than enough good ball for their backs to use. There were opportunities created but not finished off.
I don’t know what the problem is with the Waratahs specifically but watching all the matches to date, constructing tries from setpieces and showing flair or creativity from broken play has been largely missing from all the Australian backlines so far.
April 13th 2012 @ 7:30am
kingplaymaker said | April 13th 2012 @ 7:30am | Report comment
David let’s hope they turn up trumps: certainly Rob Horne must have some talent and who knows what Kingston has up his sleeve. Pretorious indeed seems to be the keystone though.
April 13th 2012 @ 9:36am
Brett McKay said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:36am | Report comment
Lordy, my concern for the Waratahs is that if they follow your suggestion and only concentrate on Pocock, Matt Hodgson will have a field day. I made the observation the other week that the Force playing Brown at blindside and Hodgson at no.8 has freed Hodgson up, allowing him to play more like the opensider that he is. Pocock is still getting the plaudits, and probably rightly so, but I don’t think Hodgson has played better Super Rugby than he is this year.
In Canberra, the game will be won in the forwards for mine, and with the tweaks Jake White has made to the pack, I reckon he does as well. He’s finally unleashing Fotu Auelua at no.8, Hooper is back at open side, and Mowen won’t play a whole lot differently at blindside. And Jones/Pyle v Carter/Fardy could be worth the price of admission alone…
April 13th 2012 @ 9:45am
jameswm said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:45am | Report comment
If you think that Brett, you must really love your locks…
April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am
Brett McKay said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
ha, no I don’t, James, but I just mean both sets of locks have been playing really well this year for their relative experience, and are all starting to get noticed, which is great…
April 13th 2012 @ 11:20am
Ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:20am | Report comment
I for one Brett am looking forward to the look on Cipriani’s face when Auelua is bearing down on him at full speed. Eddie Jones has certainly been talking him up this morning.
April 13th 2012 @ 2:25pm
DingoBob said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
Having watched Fotu play in the pre season trials for the Western District Lions I am also looking forward to see how he goes in the Super Rugby arena. He is a dynamic ball runner and very exciting to watch.
I’m not sure Iw ould wan to be facing up to this
http://www.westslions.com.au/images/2012_Trial_Vikings/27_Trial_Vikings_2012_2nds.jpg
April 13th 2012 @ 10:07am
Gary Russell-Sharam said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:07am | Report comment
Guys where is the youngest Faingaa brother is he injured or is he just on the outer with White or did he transfer to another Franchise??
I agree that the game Tahs V Force will be won in the forwards and to that end IMO I would not be surprised to see the Force may edge out the Tahs. It will be a close encounter. In the backlines IMO they are fairly close in ability maybe not on previous reputation but on current form. The Brumbies IMO should shade the Rebels even though the Rebels have O’Connor, Beale, Delve etc I reckon that the Brumbies have the fire power in the forward set pieces to and the turn over ball to beat the Rebels. They will be much better than their form against the Reds
April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am
bmwwilliams said | April 13th 2012 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Gary, he’s still at the Brumbies. I believe he hasn’t played a game this year due to injury, so I doubt White has had the chance to assess him one way or the other.
From the promise he’s showed in previous seasons though, he’s definitely one to hang on to.
April 13th 2012 @ 11:22am
Ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Colby is still on the injured list.
April 13th 2012 @ 2:50pm
Max Power said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
Which is why Fardy, who’s on an EPS contract is allowed to play. Once Colby is back White won’t be allowed to pick Fardy unless there’s another injury.
April 13th 2012 @ 4:20pm
Markus said | April 13th 2012 @ 4:20pm | Report comment
I notice they’ve just released Jono Owen for him to sign a short-term contract with the Rebels. Does that open a spot to contract another player into their 30-man squad?
April 13th 2012 @ 11:35am
Justin said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:35am | Report comment
I would imagine that the Rebels would have him on their radar, he is a good footballer and if Hooper is at the Brumbies then he will want/need match time.
April 13th 2012 @ 11:46am
Markus said | April 13th 2012 @ 11:46am | Report comment
Yep, mentioned similar the other day.
Faingaa will have been watching on in frustration as Hooper cements his spot as the team’s top openside, and with Lipman likely to depart the Rebels soon enough, I think they will be looking to snap up one of these two very talented youngsters.
April 13th 2012 @ 12:31pm
Rhino said | April 13th 2012 @ 12:31pm | Report comment
Reds aren’t licking their wounds with a bye after three successive defeats. They beat top of the table Brumbies last week.
April 13th 2012 @ 1:39pm
Justin said | April 13th 2012 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
Dont worry Rhino with Lordy Lord you get used to numerous mistakes in his articles and apparently “Lachlan Miller” is a very good footballer too…
April 13th 2012 @ 2:39pm
David Lord said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
Justin, you are quite right, Lachlan Mitchell not Miller, and he is a very good footballer.
April 13th 2012 @ 3:59pm
Justin said | April 13th 2012 @ 3:59pm | Report comment
Not from what I have seen in his 2 seasons with the Rebels to date David. Honest yes but he has a LONG way to go to be very good. I’d argue most Rebels supporters hold a similar view.
April 13th 2012 @ 2:43pm
DHE said | April 13th 2012 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
Hey guys,
Can we keep the comments above the belt on here. Surely most posters are above 40? Do you need to criticize the classic Lordy small mistakes in an article, as far as im concerned that lax on the part of the editor as much as anything. A lot of you come across like my little sisters, moody menstrual hormonal teenage girls. Debate substance and criticize argument.
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April 13th 2012 @ 4:01pm
Justin said | April 13th 2012 @ 4:01pm | Report comment
I hear what you are saying but its become comical how often it happens.
Fair dinkum we ask players to be able to do the basics. Well whats good for the goose…
April 13th 2012 @ 3:35pm
dcnz said | April 13th 2012 @ 3:35pm | Report comment
DHE, I think you might be defaming teenager girls here. at least they show fervent support for their heroes such as One Direction.
As a Canes fan, i find the inter-state bickering hilarious. But sometimes its plain childish. This is what i like to see in order of importance every weekend: a Canes win, a great game whoever wins, the underdog to cause an upset, and then a NZ team win. I have been watching rugby for 30 years so I can appreciate being beaten by a better team. I was a bit upset the Stormers beat the Highlanders, but they were so good I was happy to see complete and clinical rugby.
April 13th 2012 @ 6:11pm
Jiggles said | April 13th 2012 @ 6:11pm | Report comment
It will be interesting to see if TPN, and to a lesser extent Robinson, pull their fingers out tonight and actually do some work at the breakdown. TPN has been a joke this year.
April 13th 2012 @ 9:16pm
ilikedahoodoogurusingha said | April 13th 2012 @ 9:16pm | Report comment
As slight aside, I think the title of this article is slightly misleading. The only coach feeling the pinch this weekend is Foley……most pundits thought that the ‘Tahs would finish 1 or 2 in the Aus conference (they may still do), not many expected the Brumbies to be anywhere (I seem to recall some pundits saying they woud finish last…..they may still do). My point is there is plenty of pressure on Foley, none or little on Jake White……the Brumbies have already performed above expectations, anything above a bottom 2 finish in the conference is a positive……there is no pressure and no unreasonable expectations on them this year…….2013 however is a different kettle of fish.